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Who said water cooling can't be done inside a laptop? We made it happen. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080/4090, 175W TGP; Intel i9-14900HX (55W); up to 32GB DDR5, 1TB SSD; 17.0" 240Hz; water cooling included. From $2,499. š Click 'Shop Now' to 2x your RAM (up to 64GB) for free with code: 2xramreddit
š There is a thin line between bravery and stupidity. When my boss asks... it's bravery!
At the end of the day, we are also just humans. We are a small team that truly loves what we do and loves the community. We are personally part of that community and want to engage in these discussions.
There are many big brands out there that have invested billions in building their brand perception and now hope to see a return on that investment with high markups.
We do whatever we can to provide the same quality but with lower markups, due to fewer investments into the brand (such as retail stores, etc.).
We progress in our mission one sold laptop at a time, thanks to our amazing customers.
Thanks for your comment! It means a lot!
Damn. Yāall hiring in the finance/data analytics department?! That comment alone made me wanna be on that team! And yanno, in hopes I could argue that I need that laptop for my āwork computerā lol
Hiring a programmer right now. Thats about it. :)
Can I be one with limited python, sql, matlab, stata, macros, and vba.
I mean, that counts as programming language experience, right? Come on guys, right?!
I joke, I joke. Not about knowing that, but I only know it for financial and statistical reasons and uses. Iām just on the job search currently, and that sounds like a dream place to work at. Plus, you know, that laptop benefit also. I mean, thereās no harm installing Steam on a work computer, if used in off hours, right?
No one has said that. Itās been done before by the way a bit more crudely but water has been possible on laptops.
Youāre right, there have been previous attempts to integrate water cooling solutions in laptops, often with varying degrees of success and complexity.
What differentiates our model is our focus on optimizing both the cooling efficiency and system integration. Our water cooling system uses a custom-designed loop that includes micro-channels and a low-profile pump, which not only enhances thermal conductivity but also maintains a slim form factor. Additionally, our thermal interface materials are specifically chosen for their superior heat transfer capabilities compared to standard solutions.
In comparison, earlier models with water cooling often faced challenges with bulkiness, leakage, and maintenance. Our system is sealed and maintenance-free, designed for durability and high performance under continuous load. This means the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080/4090 can sustain peak performance at a 175W TGP without thermal throttling.
You can check out our exact specs right here: https://dreammachines.io/en/laptops?rcn=14GENI7I9A#cpu=i9-14900HX&cpu=i7-14700HX
Do you know of other models that pulled off water cooling in a better way than we did?
Probably yes
Is that a 120mm external radiator with one fan? Thatās what you call a better liquid cooling solution? I havenāt looked into the solution the OP has but 120mm anything is borderline laughable in regard to cooling capacity. Granted, laptops have lower TDP and I work with PC custom loops but stillā¦seems a bit subpar to me. This isnāt meant to be elitist, I just genuinely donāt see the point though I am open to discussing it if you disagree with my stance.
Edit: for reference I am cooling a 4090 (and 14700k) in my own personal system and bare minimum for my usage is 2 x 360mm radiators (44mm and 58mm thickness). Both are exhaust and the top rad is push/pull and my coolant sits around 30-32 Celsius (20 Celsius in my room so a delta T of about 10-12 C). My CPU is usually around 45-50C and my GPU is usually around 40C while gaming. Grated my TDP is significantly higher due to having a desktop GPU vs laptopā¦.but still Iād worry about coolant temps in the laptop. Does the pump have a higher heat resistance than a standard d5? Does it have a built in coolant temp sensor thatās integrated with the gpu/cpu clock to lower the clock when temps get too high?
Their solution is not better. :) It is good but not better.
Genuine question, what makes you say that's better?
Because itās not being advertised to me.
agreed
I know people who have done this on accident! Sure, they had to replace it afterwards, but it's still water-cooling
So itās a Tongfang Chassis computer from a Russian/Ukrane reseller. Iād rather go with Eluktronics based out of the US. Or even XMG.
No thanks.
Hey dear Eluktronics and XMG affiliate,
Thanks for your comment. My name is Chris, born in Wichita Falls, Texas. Our CEO, Craig, is also an American.
Our company is based out of Poland, not Russia or Ukraine. By the way, it might be a bad time in history to be lumping Russia and Ukraine together, ha.
lol blud thinks Iām affiliated with them lmaooo
We have a USA office too. It is small but not sure why not just say something good. We can beat out those brands you listed any day.
Sure thing thumbs up
Can i have 5$ for taco bell meal
We are team Chipotle over here
Then can you get me some chipotle?
You're giving us ideas for what will probably be the best promotion in the industry!
Then you owe him a burrito bowl
Perfecto!
Yeaaa, I dont think that's an upgrade or improvement at all. Didn't Chipotle have a Salmonella scare not too long ago?
E. Coli. It's why they don't leave lemons out in a publicly accessible area anymore.
Is that part of the deal with almost any big franchise out there in the last 3-5 years? The question must be, what food is worth taking the risk for?
What's the time spy score on that?
Hey! Thanks a ton for your patience!
We actually had a tech reviewer test every detail of our device. He compiled all of his findings, including Spy Scores under many different test scenarios, into this article:
https://ithardware.pl/testyirecenzje/dream_machines_rx4090_17pl31-32350.html#7
The reviewer was Polish, but Google Chrome can translate the report into English quite nicely. Also, all the score tests are attached as screenshots and in English in the article for you to review. The scores visible on the screenshots for the device were:
Time Spy: 21085
Time Spy CPU: 17293
Time Spy GPU: 21935
If you have any questions, let me know! :)
ABSOLUTE SHIT scores for the hardware tested. Looks like your cooling system is leaving something to be desired.
Hey - It would be helpful if you could attach a little more substance to comments like these. What makes you say these scores are bad?
I mean, everyone can Google for themselves, but here is a generally accepted breakdown of what constitutes a bad to top-tier Time Spy score. And we beat all of them by a long shot.
- Time Spy Overall Score:
- Top-tier Performance: Above 10,000 (Extremely powerful systems might even reach or exceed 18,000, particularly with the latest GPUs and CPUs, possibly in desktop replacements or laptops with desktop-grade components.)
- High Performance: 7,000 to 10,000
- Average Performance: 4,000 to 7,000
- Entry-level: Below 4,000
- Time Spy CPU Score: This can vary widely based on whether the CPU is leveraging more cores effectively in the benchmark:
- Top-tier Performance: 10,000+
- High Performance: 6,000 to 10,000
- Average Performance: 3,000 to 6,000
- Entry-level: Below 3,000
- Time Spy GPU Score:
- Top-tier Performance: Above 10,000
- High Performance: 7,000 to 10,000
- Average Performance: 4,000 to 7,000
- Entry-level: Below 4,000
If 10,000 constitutes ātop-tierā performance, then my machine belongs in NASAās R&D departmentā¦..
I believe the numbers you posted are EXTREMELY outdated. For a 4000 generation GPU, 10k benchmark would be āacceptableā from like a 4050. I think you will find that most 4050ās/4060ās are scoring in the 16k range. Iām not sure where you got your information from, but I think you will find, it is VERY outdated.
10,000 would be ātop-tierā from days of GTX 980 or 1080Ti
I am not sure what you are talking. Time Spy of 21085 is a very good score beating out almost all other laptops. Not sure why you would say it is shit. These numbers of overall scores were just from a google of other brands. Tell us what you think should be a RTX4090 on a laptop, show us some benchmarks. Based on all our tests our laptop outperforms the competition.
For air cooling, sureā¦21085 is an OK scoreā¦nothing spectacular. For watercoolingā¦.yeah, itās nothing to brag about. You seem somewhat out of touch with current benchmark standards.
I think at this point, sharing some of the resources you are getting your info from could be useful.
This Time Spy score in and of itself is very high. Not to mention the price point of this device in relation to the Time Spy score.
All you have to do is look at the Time Spy scores of regular AIR COOLED laptops; of which 35-40% of them actually BEAT the score of this so-called water cooled wonder beastā¦.probably for $1000 less or more. I meanā¦you do have eyes donāt you? Stop playing daft and realize that people can see the scores for themselves. If you are claiming those scores to be ātop-tierā for a WATER COOLED laptop, then you are delusional and out of touch.
You do understand that a laptop rtx 4090 is not at all the same as a desktop with an rtx4090 right? The water cooling on the laptop is so it can still be portable and push more performance. Laptops will NEVER go toe to toe with desktops.
While I appreciate your passion and insights, I feel that the tone of our discussion has become a bit too intense. I believe it would be best for us to conclude this conversation here. I hope you've said everything you have to say and everyone will be able to do their own research and map our scores vs what's out there in the market :) I wish you all the best.
How many 4090 water-cooled laptop scores have you seen to compare? Not many I bet. This is the first I've seen. Laptop water cooling isn't comparable to desktop water cooling. It doesn't circulate water right above the chips. It's just a water loop passing over the heat pipes. Wouldn't expect crazy gains since not overclocking.
Not manyā¦.but, you are totally missing my point. If you look at the Time Spy scores of regular AIR COOLED laptops, 35-40% of them beat this so-called water-cooled wonder of a beast. Whatās the point then? Not very impressive.
12160 is the highest Iāve seen for air cooled laptop competitors.
22k is then the highest Iāve seen for water cooled.
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/37047769
You are Literally wrong
You just proved my point, dumbass. Think REALLY hard about what you just posted and how that fits in to what I am saying.
::facepalm:: this feels like the fucking twilight zone.
It's a great score for a laptop. Especially if no thermal throttling. That guy is being pedantic it said above. I'm curious what's the temps are like both with and without water cooling?
We have a tech review done but in Polish. Of course your browser can translate and you will see with and without water cooling results. Without it is very good laptop. With it beat out all competitors they tested:
https://ithardware.pl/testyirecenzje/dream_machines_rx4090_17pl31-32350.html#7
Hey Wooden! Thanks for your comment! :) Our tests indicate a reduction of up to 15 degrees
For a laptop 4090 these scores are good wtf are you on about?
Do the quick connects leak and can it run anything other than shrek
Hey! Thanks for your comment!
You won't have any leakage; we guarantee that. The system uses magnetic self-sealing connectors with quite strong magnets.
You can learn more about it on the product page:
RTX 4080 GPU: https://dreammachines.io/en/notebook/RX4080-17NA30
RTX 4090 GPU: https://dreammachines.io/en/notebook/RX4090-17NA30
Concerning your question about whether it can run anything other than Shrek:
I mean, it could... technically. But I don't understand why anyone would want that.
is no one here gonna bring up shrek
Thanks for noticing!!!
Don't let haters get you down, it's a cool product I'd like to see US tech reviewers do a full sweet on it. Gamer nexus etc. Not Linus.
Hey! Thanks for your comment:)
You're 100% right. We've already had many reviewers in Europe take our devices apart. But we are currently in the process of having American reviewers in the US do reviews on our newest models. More to come soon!
https://dreammachines.io/pl/notebook/RX4080-17NA35
I love everything about this one, does it come with 3 hardrive slots? And can I order it with 0 hard drives and 0 ram cards, I have some already that I'd like to use? And I really dont know anything about thermal paste (still somewhat of a noob) what is the difference between them?
You can order the Laptop without SSD and without RAM. You have to be careful if the RAM that you already have is compatible with this Laptop. If you have DDR4 RAM then it will not be compatible with this models. About the thermal paste, it's better when you are receiving a laptop to change the theral paste because the most of the times the paste that they are using at the factory it's not the best one, so if you want to have less temperatures it's good to replace it with a paste that has good reviews.
Yes, most RAM is compatible of course we will help you but please use all sticks of RAM the same type. This is DDR5 SO-DIMM in this laptop. Yes, DDR4 will not work.
But paste this laptop is already pretty good and wouldn't recommend changing. Anything with RTX4070 or below I would recommend changing.
Nice to hear you are interested. In the specification in the bottom you can see the standard config:
M.2 slots (Total/Free) - 3/2 - this means by default there are 3 slots and 2 available. If you order without SSD. It will be 3 available so exactly what you want. Of course they are not for 2.5" HDD but I assume you are not using those in today's world :). It does not have any 2.5" slots in the laptop anymore.
The thermal paste is not recommend to changes as because it is so powerful it be default comes with a liquid metal thermal pad. Do not open it or cut it. It cools the laptop very well.
Ship it with Windows 10 instead of 11 and Iāll take it lol
I would be lying if I said I can't relate on some level. š
To your point, you can choose to get the laptop without Windows 11 and then install your favorite version of Windows yourself. That would save you from buying Windows 11 unnecessarily. Here are the links to the configuration settings for our NVIDIA RTX 4080 and Intel's 14th Gen i9-14900HX: https://dreammachines.io/en/configurator/RX4080-17NA30
You can see all the configuration options, including the OS.
Is it cheaper without windows?
I donāt think manufacturers can do that with new laptop models Either way get the no OS edition or just install windows 10 on the 11 version
why, who wants to lug around a radiator with their laptop?
Hey :)! You can unplug the external water cooling pretty easily.
For the time you are on your desktop and you want to have a heavy gaming session, you can easily plug in the water cooling device and benefit from up to 15% cooling down of your device.
When you have to go to work and university, you unplug the laptop and bring it with you - without the need to bring the water cooling with you.
Thatās a incredible laptop if only I could afford it lol sadly though I could barely afford my 500 dollar current laptop and itās cooling sucks maybe one day Iāll have to try and buy this if the price drops at all
Hey! Thanks a ton for your comment!
Whenever the time is right, drop us a direct message and we'll figure out which machine is the best bang for the buck for you :)!
You can also share some other models from other brands and we'll do our best to give you an unbiased comparison of the devices.
We would love to help you out!
Cool thanks so much man Iāll definitely have to keep that in mind in the future
Hey :) It's not so much about a performance increase as it is about performance consistency.
If heat builds up in your device, the performance will suffer. The external water cooling unit is proven to reduce temperatures by up to 15 degreesāwhich is quite a bit!
Our devices come with a 1-year warranty, and you can upgrade the warranty to 2 years if you like, under our "Customization" options.
You misheard.Ā We didn't say you couldn't, we said you shouldn't.
Hey! Why so?
You get to connect and disconnect the water cooling at anytime. While you game with water cooling connected temperatures will be reduced up to 15 degrees for a stable gaming performance.
Best wishes!
just wanna comment that you guys seem really passionate and cool :) this is the only ad iāve seen with genuine interaction with the comments here, yāall should be proud!
Hey Zoe,
So nice to hear! :) Thanks for your comment and happy to have you as part of the conversation!
Might as well get a desktop at this point, but I have also chuckled at the notion of a āgaming laptopā not being anything more than a very expensive Easy Bake Oven TM that doesnāt actually bake anythingā¦
Eh I love my laptop. 3090ti performance but with 16gb vram and frame Gen. Yes, I can't upgrade it. But I love being able to easily move it whenever I want. My bed. The desk. Used as super powered console on my large 4k tv. Take it on trips. Move it easily to an open area for VR.
I can't really do that with a desktop.
Are the fans loud? Yea when at peak peformance. But I keep it at mid point most the time power wise and I still get great peformance.
+1 on what the Apple Pie said!
By the way, you can upgrade the Dream Machines gaming laptops. That's one. And secondly, you can do so without losing your warranty on the device. That's pretty unique in the market.
If you wanna customize the laptop further (RAM, SSD, Thermal Grease, etc.) you can do so here: https://dreammachines.io/en/configurator/RX4080-17NA30
you say that like Framework doesnāt exist with AMD cpu+gpu coming in at a cool $1k less
Thats a really much lower end solution.
yeah, what do you expect for 1k less. In reality who needs a 4090 in a laptop except for extreme circumstances (blender, etc.) simply not necessary for a gaming laptop
Disagree.
I got it for future proof. I got a 3070 laptop 1.5 years ago and the 8gb vram is ridiculous. Plenty of games hitting it, and when using 4k even with dlss everything began to fall apart.
An lets face it most pc games are horribly optimized.
So 16gb vram plus great actual peformance and future proof was worth it to me. I don't just play on the laptop screen.
well obviously for 4k youāre gonna need more than 8gb vram. Iām one poor mf that will cheap out on something, even if it loses feature sets, which is why I use AMD products. In your situation my words do not apply. At least for me, a gaming laptop is not meant to be used with an external monitor, otherwise why did it come with one attached to it
For me it's used for all kinds of things. Work. Video editing.
It's a super powered console too. Easy to move to my big 4k screen and enjoy console style gaming with 4x the graphics, ray tracing,,fps etc. I end up almost always disappointed with ps5 graphical options.
Put it back on my desk. Move it closer to an open space and do VR. Game on my bed. I can also game on my bed AND hook it up to my 4k screen.
Mod the shit out of games. Higher textures. Not worry about vram limits or bad optimization as much.
Travel with it. List goes on.
If I was just going to keep it on desk. Yea I'd probably just opt for a 8gb card or something. But it wasn't enough to do what I wanted to do.
We also have many customers who love the RTX4090 and needs such a solution. We try to provide any options you are interested and glad you helping to explain why such a high end solution is needed for some people
People who buy RTX4090 probably need it. It is not my place to tell them what they need or not. In general people do not even need computers. I mean 70 years ago you wouldn't have one. We support the people who want them.
Nobody needs a that type of laptop either and for spec to spec comparison we have better prices. We have options on RTX4050/4060/4070
Fair enough, AMD has very slim pickings in laptops. Iāll stfu, GLW selling
Yes it is true. We appreciate discussions with people who want to discus though :). We hope to just educate people more about our brand.
QUESTION! Is this is the new april/may 2024 model that has the CPU water-cooled? the 4090s prior to April/May 2024 DOES NOT COOL the cpu with water.
What can you upgrade?
ā¦.. the RAM. and thatās it.
Yeah, this model has option to upgrade RAM and SSD. But you can also personally open up the device, make upgrades to it, and do so without losing the warranty.
Ah. Yes like most other laptops lol.
and most likely the NVME. My 2015 MacBook Pro has everything soldered except for the proprietary nvme ssd slot :(
Ah yea on my end, ram, and hard drive I believe.
You can also upgrade to multiple SSD if you want and run them in RAID. Also, you can change the wifi or the thermal paste. None of this will affect the warranty or our support.
If you are more technical you can change the batter or screen later if needed.
Everyone has their use case. More GPU/CPU demanding games or workloads at home and moderate to high end demands away from home. Having everything on one device and not having to spend more for a expensive workstation or gaming laptop on top of already spending so much on your high end desktop.
Yes thank you. We also see some people prefer a laptop. I use our laptops each day and a desktop would really limit my ability to do work from home and the office for example. Each person has their own use case scenario.
Exactly!
This is the first time I've seen an ad comment section with out some variation of a penis or amogus
People won't disrespect Shrek like that
Love the concept, a laptop that i can set up to get close to desktop power while home is exactly what i want. So why not go all in and add oculink as well?
Hey Hans!
Thanks for your comment!
Such external GPU solutions have been around for years and have many problems in my experience.Ā Computer crashes if you disconnect while running. Lots of lag and slow down.Ā Cable issues.
Basically I have seen maybe 10 and all of them came with notable issues.Ā However I did not try exactly oculink.
Hope this helped a little bit explain the reasoning as to why we have not pursuit such a solution yet:)
With eGPU setups there are particular constraints with how it works as youve mentioned. Typical thunderbolt setups are probably not worth it as they aren't fast enough to handle most modern gpus without significant bottlenecking. You also have to use external monitors or the bandwidth issue becomes even worse. In theory, oculink and thunderbolt support hot connection, but in practice this is often not the case. That's not as much of a concern for me personally because i primarily use a docked setup anyway, but it is a valid point.
Oculink helps solve lag issues with eGPU as its a pcie x4 or x8 link. In theory thunderbolt 5 should solve those issues as well, and has the benefit of power delivery and other features. Oculink has the benefit of being an open standard.
Most examples utilizing oculink ive seen use a x4 connection, which is good but may still not be able to fully utilize very high end cards. Lenovo is coming out with a new thinkbook + egpu combo using oculink x4, and even that is quite rare. I dont know the size of the market that would be interested in it, but if you could make a laptop with an oculink x8 port in addition to your cooling setup it would probably be the only laptop on the market able to fully match desktop performance and still offer gpu upgradability.
Hey Hans!
It's a super interesting discussion! So far, there haven't been many customers requesting this, so we pushed it back on the roadmap. But I'll add your comment to our roadmap Kanban board and will surface this topic again in our weekly meetings. Let's see what I can do for you! :)
Thanks a ton for your feedback!
something else to be wary of is drivers. not sure how well it would work if you had an AMD laptop GPU and using an Nvidia eGPU, for example
Eluktronics but different!
Exactly! Very different, very powerfull, very well priced
Not being negative, I like the laptop and am looking at upgrading my ROG Strix with RTX 3060, but what is the point of the cooling system? I thought the purpose of the laptop was its portability, genuine question.
Well that's the point of it. It's super low profile so it's still mostly very portable, just a little thicker than usual with way better cooling.
Sorry, that's not what I mean. Let me explain myself better. Let's say Im on a trip and wanna game on the road. If this is a water colled system, Im assuming it can't be tipped or moved in certain ways. Im also assuming that the water color is removable, so would you just leave the cooling system at home? Would the laptop be usable without the cooling system?
You can use your Laptop, without Water Cooling. So you have the portability and also when you are home and you want to play games and having better temperatures, so better performance you can use the water cooling. From what i'm watching in some reviews you have about 15 degrees Celsius less temperature.
Exactly :)
Yeah, the cooling system has tubes in the laptop that can push water right over the CPU/GPU. In addition, there are normal fan cooling system as other laptops. You can disconnect the water cooling easily as it is held in place with magnets. Then close the tubing and take the laptop anywhere you want to go. Tip/move as you please. On water it will run about 10-15 degrees cooler plus you can get more performance. Either way it will work though so still portable.
Alright, that makes a lot of sense. Final question, though: what is the competitive edge that your company holds? What makes this device more desirable against, say an ROG Strix or another similar gaming laptop? And are there any discounts or promotions we should look for?
Please keep in mind that I am currently in the market looking to upgrade the ROG Strix with the AMD Raedon 9 and Nvidia RTX 3060. I want a device with at least a 4070 super but would love a 4090 (kinda outta budget, and from what I've heard, unnecessary for laptop gaming). I would love an RTX card, but I am willing to consider some highly rated alternatives.
Hold on, what you are describing sounds like a desktop. There is no "super" series of GPU for laptops. Nvidia has strict marketing rules. There is a RTX4070/4080/4090. Thats it. Nothing better. The RTX4090 is pricey and you can bring that up with Nvidia.
RTX4080 is more fairly priced. Please check our models on our website:
https://www.dreammachines.io/en/laptops
In addition compared to a... - we have the option to configure. You can do it on our website or yourself later. You can buy the laptop without parts and add them in. Also, you get free lifetime email support. The cooling is super powerful and with water cooling it will beat out any other brand for sure.
Our company is smaller and we try to offer more options and support to our customers. We are selling parts for fair prices after years of use. Just had a customer buy a cooling system for his laptop that he bough from us 6 years ago. Still works great.
For discount you can see on the 4080/4090 we are offering double the ram. If you want something on a different GPU please let us know what and we will come up with a discount code for you.
Tell us your budget also
Wasnt aware that the ti and super series were desktop only, thanks for that info. My budget is $2,000 - $2,500.
So if you like the model in the picture then 2500 it is:
https://dreammachines.io/pl/notebook/RX4080-17NA30
Plus you get double the ram right now.
If you do not want the water cooling there is this version:
https://dreammachines.io/pl/notebook/RX4080-17NA35
On the high end with i9 and RTX4070:
https://dreammachines.io/pl/notebook/RG4070-17NA31
You can also go down from there with lots of options. But those are 3 goods ones in your price range and 17". If you want a smaller screen also let us know.
It's all inside the laptop, and it's a sealed system so it can be tipped all over the place
Wait, so the blue box plugged into it is not the cooling system? Is the actual system inside the laptop case?
The blue box looks like some kind of mini PC, but I may be wrong. Gotta wait for OP to reply
I went to the website and looked, I think the box is the system. But I could be completely wrong. Either way, this computer is really cool.
Hey Guys! Yes, the little box you see in the background of the image is an external water cooling system that comes with the laptop. :)
You can easily connect and disconnect it thanks to our magnetic self-sealing connectors.
While connected, the water cooling cools down the device up to 15 degrees, ensuring rock-solid gaming performance. Ah, and it's super quiet.
This means you can easily disconnect the water cooling, bring the laptop anywhere you want, and whenever you can, connect the laptop to the cooling system for even smoother performance.
Hope this helped!
We call this water cooling system 'Dream Waterfall,' and it comes with these models:
https://dreammachines.io/en/notebook/RX4080-17NA31
https://dreammachines.io/en/notebook/RX4090-17NA31
Most popular: https://dreammachines.io/en/notebook/RX4080-17NA30
How well does it perform without the cooling unit?
It works very well. Just runs a bit hotter and you will not be able to turbo boost as much but there is no throttling.
Actually we offer a version without water cooling for people that want a more portable solution:
Thanks for your feedback. What exactly is low quality? How can we improve?
its been done before, not sure who says it isnt?
A water cooled laptop might be one of the most idiotic things I have ever witnessed. Anybody who buys this type of rig is a certified tard
Im just wondering out of curiosity, do you have have some benchmark tests and temperatures available to share? E.g. what are the average and peak cpu and gpu temps under load?
Ive been looking into gaming laptops but the largest turnoff is the amount of heat they generate and trying to properly manage that kinda defeats the purpose of it being a mobile device when you need a full sized cooler + heatsink + other passive airflow devices
Your laptops seem to be using wva displays, is there a particular reason for using them over ips panels? I have seen conflicting information regarding the differences between ips and wva panels and would be interested to know more about why you chose wva
QUESTION! Is this is the new april/may 2024 model that has the CPU water-cooled? the 4090s prior to April/May 2024 DOES NOT COOL the cpu with water.
Just posting to say, big fan of shreksophone. I listen to the full ten hours every time.
Is it one of those chunky desktop replacements or a thinner form factor laptop?
What are the actual specs on the cooling solution? Copper or aluminum etcā¦.
As i know - cooling loop made of aluminium.
So is the water cooling block and radiator aluminum or copper?
As i know - cooling loop made of aluminium.
Oh no
I just have to say kudos on keeping comments open on an ad and even interacting with them. Things here might not always go the way you want them to go, but even allowing the discussion is either brave or stupid. Either way, respect.