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same is on penguinez0 channel
Even happened on the jacknjellify and Danno Cal Drawings channels
And VSauce too apparently
Don't blame it on him. The UTTP is spamming the comments of EVERY CHANNEL with millions of subscribers, and the comments don't get taken down for weeks.
Even with moderation, these bots will find a way to bypass it.
Yeah i get ur point but Ive seen this on so many youtubers comments i think its more of a youtube problem, they cant stop bots and spam comments it seems
No it's not it's literally everywhere. Most huge youtubers don't moderate the thousands of comments and replies coming in. These spam comments are in gaming video channels, yt shorts, review channels, and more. It's all usually the same group.
A lot of people moan and say, “But popular creators can’t possibly read all of their comments!” and I say, “Wow, that sounds like a first-world problem.” I think the default should be that creators have to either moderate their own comment sections or shut down commenting. If they can’t keep up, because they’re too busy counting their YouTube money, they should hire someone.
Personally, I think most creators, once they get monetized, don’t really give a shit about any of their viewers’ comments any more than big celebrities or politicians on Twitter care about people who comment on their followers’ comments. Again, too busy counting money.
Maybe we shouldnt put all the work on the creators when youtube sits on there ass all day doing the same shit, they should have better auto-moderation, your view on the matter makes no sense if youtube can auto-moderate using bots
They should have better auto moderation if they thought the commenting system was worth putting the money into to improve. The last time Google sunk money into social media, it was Google+ and nobody wanted it.
What I would very much like to see are numbers about how many users actually think commenting is important, to the point where they would leave if it was shut down. I could probably figure it out, sort of like how you can gauge the number of users who slap that like button as a percentage of overall views, but that would require I descend into the morass of YouTube’s godawful social media implementation. They’ll never say how many people comment unless they can spin it into a positive. I’d bet, though, that it’s under ten percent, and probably less than five. You’d never think that, from all the people who bitch about it in this sub, but that’s the likely reality. The vast majority of people are passive consumers, who just watch one video and move on to the next.
So, the real question is what would YouTube lose by getting rid of commenting, entirely? Given that people keep watching, despite bitching about ads or their ad blockers being blocked, or whatever, I’d bet that they would adjust to this, as well.
And, if they wanted to keep commenting, but clean it up, they could always paywall it. Teenagers who crave attention and get it by saying vile things aren’t going to pay fourteen bucks a month for the privilege. Neither are most of the current commenters, which would likely rectify the situation with comments not being visible as a result of there just being too many comments.
The thing is by trying to capitalize off of a feature that is the bare minimum is like paying to get verified on twitter, its stupid, and your saying that like youtube isnt already wasting money by hiring developers to make the display shittier, which this subreddit has been whining about, comments are made to voice opinions to help guide people, so by making it a matter of money just seems greedy, so tell me again why they shouldnt put more effort into something that will help the platform?
Ontop of that you can see how many think its important through a multitude of ways, one of which being who commenting compared to the amount that have watched the video, and if you use VidIq you can see how many have rewatched the video, which shows how many have commented out of the ones that actually watched, but that isnt the point, its the fact that you say they should make a feature that should be free and has been for over 10 years into a feature that basically goes alongside youtube premium, it might as well be a pay to watch thing at that point
If the creators aren’t reading the comments, are they really being guided, though? I don’t see a fundamental difference between having comments on YouTube versus having them at an offsite location, to be decided by the creator.
It isnt for creators to be guided by them, comments, alongside the like system where meant for other viewers, and in that same pool the creators can use it
They can use it. My point is they don’t. Little guy with a thousand subscribers? He’s all about the fans. Talks to everybody. The guy with fifty thousand subscribers is more concerned about how open his mouth should be in the video thumbnail, to really maximize clicks. They don’t care about you.
It’s just there to placate the people who have gotten used to it being there, and I would suggest that getting rid of it would be something that they would just have to get used to.
And having them on youtube makes it so viewers dont have to jump loops just to see what people are saying, make it make sense bro
Who’s ad blocker stopped working? Mine is fine.
People freak out every time Google gets ahead of the ad blockers for long enough that they have to update their ad blocker.
UBlock origin auto updates now I haven’t had a minute of downtime in months
Well, maybe someday YouTube will concede victory to the ad blockers and stop this silly fight, and then paywall the service.
At which point more than 90% of their user base will vanish, which they know and so they don’t
Given that I don’t believe YouTube would be profitable if it wasn’t getting a sweetheart deal from Google data centers (which no other company would ever get, which is how YouTube can exist while competing startups are doomed to failure), I truly hope the monopoly case against Google’s advertising division ends with a breakup of the company. This would put YouTube on a level playing field with other companies in the space.
And, to paraphrase my man Ivan: If it dies, it dies.
But, it could likely survive indefinitely at four cents per gig, which is market rate, if it was paywalled. Personally, I think they should go the No Tell Motel route and charge by the hour, which would fuck over anyone who sleeps while “watching” YouTube, but those users would learn pretty quick to just buy a white-noise machine, like a rational human being.
Or put the responsibility on the tech giant who owns the platform and manages to ban users instantly for uttering anything even remotely offensive.
Again, why? You’re saying this like they owe you better service, despite not giving them a dime in direct revenue. Who knows; maybe you’re one of those entitled assholes with an ad blocker, which means you don’t provide them with a dime in indirect revenue, either, but you still think they owe you something.
It’s their platform; they get to run it however they want. I mean, what are you going to do? Leave? You and I both know you don’t have the nuts for that. You will take whatever beating they give you and ask for seconds, because the alternative is going to the library for your free entertainment, and unfortunately the librarian isn’t going to read the books to you.
So, enjoy it while you can, in whatever form they give it to you, until they paywall the service. And that’ll fix the problems with commenting immediately, because nobody’s going to pay fourteen dollars to get banned in the first three days. And if you can’t afford fourteen dollars per month, maybe you shouldn’t waste so much time watching YouTube.
“You will take whatever beating they give you and ask for seconds.”
Don’t project your weird sub fetishes onto me brother. I barely even watch YouTube at this point. lol
You were projecting an air of, “They’ve got billions of dollars! Why shouldn’t they do everything!” so I treated you like someone who never went to college and had no idea how business works.
Businesses are in it to make money, so if they can cut costs and only offend a small minority of users (who will continue using the service, anyway), the business should do that. As such, they should spike the social media component and let creators figure out if they actually want to hear from their viewers.
I mean it’s an optics thing too you know. lol
If I owned a media platform, and it was public knowledge that I had an auto-mod that routinely banned people for using even the slightest offensive language the SECOND they’re posted, while simultaneously allowing spam bots to exclaim about how they love child porn, I’d be absolutely fucking embarrassed to be associated with that platform in any way.
Call me crazy, but in a good business, the quality of the product stands first in line.
And your second paragraph illustrates why the nuclear option should be on the table. If they’ve spent time and effort on trying to auto-moderate the system, and it’s not working, then they should remove the system. After all, nobody wants spam bots exclaiming their love for child porn, because it makes the company look bad to investors. But those investors won’t care about people being banned for offensive language, unless it meant they would never watch YouTube again. And, even then, Google could make the case that there is a strong correlation between active commenters and ad blockers, who only cost the company money, and then the investors would applaud getting rid of them.
Again, I see no reason why they can’t take a section that makes no money and drive it offsite.
being illegal isn't what makes it morally wrong
being morally wrong is what made it illegal
Regardless of the law
Everyone should have a moral obligation to not fuck children
And every child should have the moral obligation to not want to be fucked
Ye sure morals are from ones own perspective but clearly enough people have morals that would make pedophilia abhorrent so the law is in place due to our collective morals on the matter and again only the abusers are the one genuinely trying to make like it’s just love no no call you it whatever you want but we are gona call it many years in prison for you.
You're right that Legality =/= Morality, but Legality is at best very loosely based on morality.
Arguing legality or arguing your rights are in all situations one of the worst ways to defend a position. Look for other ways to justify your actions/your attitude on subjects.
It is morally wrong and fucked up if a 46 year old has a relationship with a 13 year old.
I knew Reddit was a pedo haven, look at the upvotes on that post WTF
We agree
Exactly
Stop giving them attention. The same group has been posted in this sub every day for the last few months.
All they want is attention. Report them and move on
I have literally made a post saying this but I think it was deleted or something. But yeah, THIS.
Fr, everytime i check this sub, it all just UTTP. I was expecting cool angle of youtube from this sub but i guess this is reddit for me
There’s nothing connection this group to that group.
Grooming on the internet has been a problem for a long time, but you can’t claim that it all comes from 1 group.
This group just wants attention, and we have no reason to believe that they are endangering anyone, although they have been reported to authorities by multiple people just in case.
The biggest thing though is attention. And even if they are doing bad things, attention still helps them that way too.
So again, report them, and move on
But it is coming from one group? Are you Dense?
Lol comment got removed😂
Ah I see, you are dumb. Btw all the comments are still there
Unfortunately pedos want more than attention but ok
This is a group that literally call themselves trolls.
They want attention.
Learn how the internet works
How do you know if thats a troll comment or a genuine pedo?
They are part of a group who are very exclusively cowardly trolls. They talk about cheese pizza and rapeseed all the time but none of them actually ever do anything (which is good) and instead just ragebait on youtube
Which group?
The UTTP, utube troll police. Ironic name
When I google I see someone posting "here is an in depth video about them" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PgQslaMlp8&t=1s lmao it's not available.
Do you know if there is any worthwhile source that confirms UTTP is real or is it just a rumor?
As the other person said, this is a well known group.
The comments are the exact same everytime, and it’s multiple accounts with similar names.
They don’t just say stuff about this but they say a bunch of slurs too because it’s “funny”
They just want attention. Report them, and move on
Also, keep in mind that people aren’t going to advertise that stuff on YouTube because it gets taken down much easier and reported to authorities much easier. There’s also very little ways to communicate.
Twitter and Telegram are some of the worst social platforms for that shit. As not only do both apps rarely take it down, but it’s easy to communicate and use “hidden” messages.
That sounds like a conspiracy theory ngl. Any sources would be welcome
Just ignore and report to the FBI. Do not reply to them.
I see that they finally fixed their grammar. They used to say "are" instead of "is".
The FBI?!?
Yeah, the "emporer" of UTTP is doing pretty shady things
How do they know who he is
4chan doxxed him or one of the leaders
I can't believe there's a whole organization for this
Also 4chan good stuff
The organisation is a bunch of idiots and toddlers
FBI OPEN UP!!!!!
But what's the purpose of these bots to publish these comments? The only reason I might imagine, is to pump the engagement of that video, but even so, with this sort of comments....
Rage bait, which seems to work with how many people post about it on reddit..
It's so people call them trolls and move on. It seems to be working🫤
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FBI has No Jurisidiction . FBI isnt Hollywood move FBI. Even FBI runs rackets.
It has now been [0] hours since another goddamn UTTP post
I figured out how YouTube cant ban them they type like this
a tsuj si ega ,ailihpodep ezilamroNrebmun naem t'nseod lagelli s'ti esuaceb tsuJit's morally wrong,.,,,.
Its all backwards and weird....
YouTube can't track that shit
I mean unless they install something like an AI where it can look for these comments
They ban you if you say fuck you but this is okay....
One pirate said "Everywhere is money, money... only evil from them, I wouldn't want to see them for decades!", and he was right. Money ruined YouTube that once was an amazing app...
In short, YouTube doesn’t allow it… but it’s difficult for them to actively moderate every comment posted on the site.
Report the author, give it a downvote, and move on. It’s against YouTube TOS to post that kind of stuff and they will take it down once it’s reported and processed.
It is also somewhat the responsibility of the uploaded to moderate their own comment sections. So it may be worth it to post a separate comment asking them to be more active about it. YouTube gives creators some tools to help, that should be able to easily filter and block/hide these kind of comments altogether.
Just in case, if anyone wants to get rid of spam comments without all the manual work, just download ThioJoes Spam moderation bot. He created a bot with its sole purpose being to delete spam comments or even ban spam accounts. Look up "Thio Joe Spam Bot" if you wanna see a real demonstration (or if you're lazy just tap the link): https://youtu.be/2tRppXW_aKo?si=A9XF8OmB9yD99S1S
Oh shit brawl stars player are turning 18
Don't feed the trolls.
Wtf?!?
They want to normalize that because it's the only way these toddlers get any bitches
Or because they want to ruin future generations' brains to the point that they would think that pedophilism is ok.
Because YouTube security team is garbage? I mean premium exist and they are banning adblockers so I don’t why this is a big surprise for you?
Hell they even have scam and porn ads running
Youtube uses and ai for moderation
Youtube slowly becoming Reddit
Can we stop asking youtube to moderate? They don’t know how to do that, clearly. And like, who is this comment actually hurting? You think someone is gonna read that and say, hmm, that’s a good point let’s f—k some kids! I hate that I have to censor f—k too…
One word to describe reason why YouTube allows comments like that: Money.
Bot: Age is just a number
Me: Jail is just a room
I'm stealing this
Oh, you can't steal it.
It's free
Just a kid being edgy for attention. Stop giving him what he wants
The thing is, he is wrong because of “age is just a number, so?” Type of reasons.
Oh look mom yet another UTTP post.....
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yt will try hard on ad blockers but wont fixing these things, like dude, how hard it is to detect these things, specially when they deletes my comment cuz it had "shit" in it
It's because the ai doesn't detect it because they use some special code
this is what you get from a company run by p3dos. they removed all flag emojis besides the "pride" ones as well
Me when I type ugly they banned me from commenting 24 hours 💀
Man this app is trash
I think you should try Pure Tuber, at least the YouTube analogue would do something about UTTP.
This entire sub just turned into giving those UTTP bots the attention they want lol
Well it;s a big problem and what else are we supposed to do like
Report.
I actually got some experience with Unicode, hear me out
The right to left override symbol in Unicode allows you to
well
override to text to be from left to right to right to left.
How they do it, is the type what they want to be plastered in the comment section in reverse, paste the RTL override in the beginning of the message and they got a vile message.
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If I remember they use a unicode script that makes the words gibberish to youtube but words. To us. God I hate these trolling children.
Not handling that is pure laziness on the part of Google/YouTube. To catch and filter that is TRIVIAL.
It ain't entirely easy iirc
just loom at his username.
Has anyone experience in reporting exactly these comments encouraging crime? By that, I don't mean the other UTTP stuff. Here in Germany, I'm pretty surd YouTube is obligated by law to remove those since they fall under the network enforcement act. If YouTube won't comply with the NetzDG, they can get quite high fines. If I find such an comment, I'll do such an report if I have the time.
This again?
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YouTube doesn't care. They have been around for quite a bit, and nothing has been done to fix the issue.
the dog one is a new one
lol
If age is number then cell is only room.And it is illegal for a reason.
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I literally saw one of them say the n word. Wake up YouTube moderation.
The code they use to bypass those words aren't in yt moderation
But I still hope they do something about it
There is much worse in yt comments sections why are people so focused on this
Why don’t we just tell the government about it, since they care sooooooo much about child safety
The unicode appears as scrambled for youtube themselves, just spam report em
and yet we cant type the word "discord" in the youtube comments
Bro this ain't roblox
They got Vsauce too https://youtube.com/shorts/jDjJdJSvyBg?si=AVGtAre9W10E0hp5 Comments are filled with shit spam.
We should all report these channels like they even made ragebait about someone's dog getting put down. https://youtu.be/DZePiF57Cjs?si=eXUS5uy-7MATJqiZ
Hate this people.
It doesn’t. The person who commented is not YouTube or from YouTube. Age may be a number but would also grow with age is the legality of the pedophilia crime. Age and the legality of the pedophilia crime grows at the same pace so basically illegal does mean morally wrong. Look it up in the dictionary, pal.
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For the 3974638292948th seeing this kind of posts in this sub like you complaining it will make them go away
We need to talk MORE about this issue. Few understand the severity of it.
no-moralize.
Youtube is in complete hostile business practice mode, they wont stop at this point until a competitor humbles them or they get hit with a gov hammer.
“Normalize piracy, price is just a number. Just because it’s illegal doesn’t mean it’s morally wrong!”
whats funnier is that they're also children
WTF
They're too busy chasing people who're trying to block ads. If they could they'll come into your house and put a gun to your head untill to watch all ads.
WOW... instead of shortening their Username as per usual they are now writing it out... Guess all other Accounts have been blocked by YouTube?
YouTube also allows "wet vs dry", shower videos, see-thru lingerie, and worse (kids 'get ready with me' videos, dressing and shower videos) you think someone making a stupid comment will make a difference?
Talking about it does what exactly? Do you think YouTube themselves will join in the discussion here on reddit? Fuckjn kids
I've seen these same comments on multiple different creators' videos. It's really disturbing.
To be honest all the comments are bad
I cant even reply 70% of the time, not using any profanity or insults.
Commenting itself only works like 1/5 of a time at best.
I also cant reply on googles own help forum.
I am a Premium User and feel like a slave or minimum a useful tool at this point.
Just UTTP. Stop giving them attention
I have been sick in my mouth.
its name literally contains the word "troll" stop caring about it
Isn't it morally wrong and therefor illegal?
Isn't it comments like this why you see more and more disabled comment sections on youtube?
I want to play gta with that guy.
Hope you reported the comment to get it removed. YouTube doesn’t have an automatic filter. Some comments need you to report them
Yet when I post certain content/comments/etc on platforms, it immediately gets flagged, taken down, or low views bc it's not being recommended. And my stuff doesn't even come close to that, smh...
Ridiculous
Unicode characters most likely. It’s an override to make backwards text appear normal.
Youtube Technical team is far too busy trying to block ad blockers and make the UX even more shit.
The executives could fix this, but they are to busy counting money and deciding what yacht to buy
The other day I was looking at this Jerusalem Post article:
Israel is trying to legalize pedophilia - Avi Maoz
The age of consent in Israel is 16 for all genders but can be as low as 14 provided both parties consent and have a 3-year age gap or less
They are bots or stupid ipad kids they spam this on any video they don't like helluva Boss episode comment sections are flooded with this they do It to trigger people and give bad image to the content that doesn't agree with their agenda
Thats because in Real World ped-o is someone under 12. but Americans think it is under 18.
Youtube wants it Legalized. See Youtube CEO Family and History. They are all same people.
They just dont care atp, honestly
YT supports it
That account has been around since 2019 if I remember right. Youtube just hasn't cared
I dont understand
OMG thats absolutely disgusting!!!!
Ew wtf is going on. YouTube is usually very very strict
Wtf
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Free Speech.
I hope you're being Sarcastic
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I feel like its partially on Zack D. Films for not moderating his comments section properly and a lot on youtube for even allowing it in the first place