On this day 10 years ago, we ventured into Pandaria for the first time!
NostalgiaSame, I enjoyed it a lot. Played it from start to finish without any breaks on my graveyard of a realm then for Warlords of Draenor, I stopped playing and didn't touch WoW until Legion was on it's last legs.
I paid for Legion and did some dungeons with my brother but I couldn't get into the artefact weapons and that was it with WoW for me.
Raiding Throne of Thunder with my Brewmaster was top tier experience. I still remember me and my guildmates struggling to kill Horidon and it was such a joy when we finally killed it. The following week we cleared everything else in a single go. Good times.
it was the last one for most of my friend group
late years of college, other games competing with it, other friend groups in their schools pulling them towards other games.
i kept going after mists but it’s so lonely to not log in and see ur buddies reliably always online to play with you
My kid was 3, i did not play as much as I wanted lol
My daughter was 2. She started playing WoW at 3 though, so that made parenting a bit easier. Less wear and tear on my trouser knees.
My kid is 5 months and I’m gonna try my best to enjoy some wrath pvp but I’m prepared to get dusted because I can’t keep up with the gear grind. Oh well, at least I can try.
Take advantage of nap time lol!
Oh ya he’s been sleeping on my chest and I steam my pc via steam link to my tv and play with a wireless mouse and keyboard. Adapt and overcome! 😂
Same.
Lucky, my last expansion is Shadowlands. I hope my adulthood won’t be as shitty as that expac was
Thanks for reminding me how old I am :D
I agree I feel old as fuck now. That really was a lifetime ago
The classes were so much fun to play too
Everything was fun to play, tbh the only bad thing is CC's in PvP
It was the first expansion I didn't play... So I had it classified as "one of new expansions"...
Yeah, it wasn't scaling down or something, like in the way Storm, Earth and Fire is 40%/40%/40% up from you doing 100% of your damage outside of it. Stampede was just full 100% pet damage per pet in I think Malevolent season. Funny stuff.
I don't even remember for sure if it was working as intended or bugged, but stampede was so ridiculous that people were running 3x hunter as an arena comp.
It actually made me quit probably a month and a half after launch, but I came back midway through Throne of Thunder and LOVED the rest of the expansion.
This was the expansion where for 1 day ret paladins could 1 shot people (I can’t remember what exactly was causing it).
We ran me (unholy dk) and 2 x ret pally for that day in arena, probably the most fun and laughs I have ever had in wow. Death grip in their pally and try and blow him up before he blew us up.
Reminds me of CSGO when they added the revolver, for about 12 hours it was wild Wild West simulator, everyone just having revolver duels.
It was. I remember hitting a bug a few times where Kill Command would just multiply for each pet and insta kill people in Arena. PvP was the only thing I liked about MoP but playing a Hunter was biased.
I loved the expansion but PvP tuning was fucking nuts, lots of delete buttons.
Pandaren, Monks, Jade Forest, the music, Throne of Thunder, Siege, Timeless Isles.... so many great memories from that expansion!
I oddly just started leveling a toon in MoP just because and it’s quickly becoming one of my favorite xpacs!
This. Whenever I level a new alt, I level them in MoP. It's just so much more enjoyable than the other Xpacs for leveling.
I started playing in 8.3 so I'm trying to level in at least each xpac once. MoP is my favorite so far behind Legion
I still remember that Alliance quest where you ride in the plane and had to shoot at the ship ... 10,000 people trying to do it at the same time, could barely see what you were shooting at, and it took forever to get credit, plus it was a required part of the phased storyline so you couldn't just skip it. Trying to level fast and getting bogged down with stuff like that was super frustrating
I fell off of WoW just before Cata came out. Life and all that. Then, picked it back up around the time MoP came out. I had so much fun with that expac. My favorite right behind Wrath. I loved every minute of it.
Crazy how negatively vocal people were about this expansion and today we look back on class design and raids, and how we long for it to come back after playing BfA/SL.
Yep, 16 year old me wanted something less light than pandas. But then I got beta and realized "hey, this is really fucking cool"
Really my only problems with the expansion were that before it came out, and when you'd full clear a raid on Tuesday and end at like 19/20 Titan Runestones or Secrets of the Empire. Rly a perfect expansion
Look at the sub count during mop, it did not go well...
I'd be willing to bet you real money that in 10 years people will be super nostalgic about BfA and Shadowlands
I would not be surprised haha.
That expansion was horrible. Everything was a constant grind. It was hard to have alts because it became a constant daily grind.
It was less grindy than most if not all other expansions.
Getting into pvp and pve was extremely easy, outside of 1st few months dailys weren't that important later on and you could just not do them.
Legendary cloak quest was grindy, but honestly to me it was just the right amount of grinding, it didn't require some crazy RNG, it didn't require you to log in on every single day.
It was significantly less grindy than Legion or BFA from the standpoint of being raid-ready and up-to-date on character-power-relevant systems.
It wasn’t even that bad lol. It was one of the best alt expansions imo because every class was at their peak. I feel like you have to be really unskilled at the game to consider mop horrible and prob just a boomer clicker.
Lmao it's funny to see someone judge a person as a player from reading a comment on reddit. I'm guessing you're a pretty elitist asshole.
Far from it, I’m just generally curious from most of my experiences of MoP haters are that reason. What’s your favourite wow expansion then? Also, if you don’t like grinds you shouldn’t play mmo’s.
Tbh BC was my favorite expansion. Cata started the downfall and the rest have not been great. MoP it felt like I just logged on to do dailies.
Expansion execution was great, loads of awesome features, top tier class design, the lore with Garrosh. But the choice of lore and theme missed the mark for a lot of people.
Just a bit bizarre to go from old gods, black dragonflight to the burning legion, to the lich king and the scourge, to deathwing and Azeroth’s destruction, … and then to pandas and Asian stereotypes. It was a weird choice of direction.
But hey, it turned into one of the best expansions they ever made imo.
ironically, MoP ended up being an old god and war torn expansion so jokes on those people
100% true. I swallowed my opinion and went to the midnight launch, played the hell out of it. No regrets whatsoever. Top tier expansion.
Thats not what mop was about, its literally about the titans and old gods too, like yshiraj. The story and lore in pandaria actually made a lot of sense and was deeply layered snd grounded in oversll warcraft lore while implementing new things and bringing a fresh breath.
Yeah the execution ended up being really good, the lore honed in on some classic Warcraft lore like you mentioned. But when it was announced and the only info we got was pandas, Asia and Pokémon Lite battles, general consensus wasn’t great amongst fans.
Shortly after the announcement, there was a lot of disagreement over whether Blizzard should have picked a different part of Warcraft lore. At the time, I thought yes absolutely change it, but with hindsight, I think it ended up being a good choice.
Edit: not sure why you got downvoted, take my upvote fam
Yeah but in hindsight a lot of that hate was unjustified, maybe at the time i could understand where people coming from but mop turned into so much more and was very deep lorewise.
Couldn’t agree more. None of my friends nor myself liked the theme at all, we made a lot of fun of it at the time, but we all ended up having an awesome experience and now hold the expansion in high regard. We still make fun of pandas even to this day though 😂
Yeah well they are a bit silly tho i give you that but they grew on me
Just a bit bizarre to go from old gods, black dragonflight to the burning legion, to the lich king and the scourge, to deathwing and Azeroth’s destruction, … and then to pandas and Asian stereotypes
That's such a terrible nitpicking.
How about:
Just exciting to go from stealing kobold candles, hunting countless animals, funny mechagnomes, zone based on Indiana Jones... to then remnants of an old god born from emotions, death and destruction everywhere and badass garrosh.
See? I also nitpicked. MoP was barely even about Pandarens. Basically at max lev you started interacting with the bads of this land and it quickly turned metal.
Why do people have an issue with Pandaren, but not gnomes, goblins, taurens or worgen?
Why do people have an issue with Pandaren, but not gnomes, goblins, taurens or worgen?
one part of it, is that those have been part of the warcraft lore for years and years before becoming a playable race. And they fit together in the overall existing world.
Compare that to MoP with pandas that came out of nowhere (yeah, i know about the ONE panda found in W3, actually enjoyed playing it), that are found only in pandaria, with building found only in pandara, no link to the rest of azeroth, etc.
the more "nasty" side of the explanation, pandaria lore doesn't fit with the standard "european" fantasy. that expansion 100% was cathered towards asia and makes some people feel like "their" WoW is being taken away and sold out.
I understand the sentiment, but it's such an immature one. At some point new lore had to be created because the existing material was exhausted. Warcraft doesn't exist since the begining of the time, it was also created at some point.
If people were constantly afraid of change, we'd still be living in caved, eating only what we hunted or gathered, and shitting wherever there's room for it.
Overall I'd say it was pretty good. Only complaint I really saw was it had pandas and was asian themed. Looking past that, was solid.
I had to work during the midnight launch, went to GameStop in the morning and picked up some Chinese, it was the first time I was caught up on launch and just experiencing that game on launch was something else… then my computer crapped out and couldn’t handle the game so I spent the first two levels leveling up by mining and staring at the ground
My favorite time in WoW. I love Monk so much in RPGs and was so excited to make one. Still main WW to this day. I loved this continent and the raids and pvp. It was so good. I had just started my career so was learning new balance in work/home life. It was a great time.
Oh yes, it doesn't seem that 10 years have passed. Mop probably was the expansion where i had most fun, the contents were like gold, truly one of the best WOW expansions.
Incredible expansion. Some of the best art and music WoW has ever released.
Strongly agreed. It's so easy to get immersed in some of these zones. And the zones/characters have so much of that old wow charm. I didn't play much when it was live, and I still really regret that. Hoping I can play the shit out of it in classic mode in the coming years.
I hated the artstyle and theme, I felt the Asian-themed gear was an aesthetic that only really fit the monks and seemed sort of odd on the others.
I did however feel that this was the best expansion because of the gameplay. Pretty much every class I've played peaked in game design around MoP. It was a fantastic time to be playing pretty much anything
Absolutely brilliant.
I know people thought it was cynical at the time but they really delivered with it.
Woah, I forgot today's the 25th.
Damn this is wild - I remember the night before so vividly. Finishing my internship for the night at a major broadcasting corp, seeing EU followers react to the expac on twitter on the way out since it launched for them at like 7pm eastern on the 24th.
Drive over to Future Shop for the midnight launch, get there at 9, talk WoW with like 20 people there, everyone's great. Some time in, my mind's kind of blown when my dad's gf's oldest daughter & her boyfriend walk up from their car too and we recognize each other instantly. Crazy shit, like what? Small world. Like we've known each other forever at that point, and I'd seen her boyfriend a good bit too at their place, but never expected them to show up for a WoW release.
I ended up getting the very last physical Collector's Edition they had in stock. Wanted to go for realm-first 600 mining but had to go to school that morning. Still have this poster on the wall that they handed out to everyone.
But ya, really the greatest WoW expansion ever made.
This story gave me happy smiles. Thankyou for sharing
I was forced to quit shortly after this expansion. My sad little laptop just couldn’t run the game anymore and I would stop having internet shortly after. I just barely came back and am enjoying Pandaria so much! It must have been great when it was full of players and brand new.
Jade Forest was the best zone
except I refuse to complete the Jade Serpent Temple questline anymore. It's too beautiful.
Yeah, one of the worst things about the MoP storyline for me is how it takes so many beautiful, tranquil places and irrevocably fucks them up, killing off several really sweet characters in the process. The Jade Temple dungeon is heartbreaking, even if Yu'Lon ends up fine a lot of good people die horribly and in deep mental anguish.
Remember the questline that opens Townlong Steppes from Kun-Lai? The one where you have to
Yeah, that questline broke me a bit.
and the beautiful statue is destroyed.
I'm also sour about the Vale of Eternal Blossoms. I took my time levelling through Pandaria, so I never made it to the Vale before it was destroyed. I never got to experience it in all its beauty, and I never will now. Closest I can get is by doing the Dark Heart of Pandaria scenario. But it's not the same.
It's a minor thing and it kind of makes sense why, but I really wish they didn't have like a million little shalings crawling around the front.
In MoP beta that was like, the new duel spot and it was perfect. So many people dueled there. Super open, had a degree of LoS, verticality, etc.
It was good the first time. 39 times later I'm over it.
I mean surely the same goes for any zone when you do it that many times lol
The “hurr durr king fu panda” idiots missed an excellent expac. If you paid any attention to the quests the sha line was dark, as was the klaxxi line. Classes felt really solid too, I played so many alts. One of my fave expacs.
The story was actually very solid and a fresh breath. How they dealt with connecting the titans to pandarias lore was awesome, the lorefinder cho or how he was called questchain was one of my fav in the whole game.
Ya my favorite classes in mists were arms warrior, and ret paladin. If you went up 1v1 against me on those classes there was a 99% chance you were getting those cheeks clapped. If it was 2v1 then it was like an 85% chance lol.
And were instantly met with a swarm of helicopters all stuck trying to complete the same quest.
Still feels like it was yesterday :')
That's somehow weird, isn't it? If I think about it, all the good times and memories from MoP are so clear in my head like it was yesterday, no joke. That says a lot of how much I enjoyed it xD
There's no fucking way mop was a decade ago. I refuse to accept it.
The thing I miss most about pandaria - and it was my brother and me’s favorite from early on because of this - was the exploration.
Through wide, rolling hills, or dense jungle, it always felt like there was a place to explore, which I feel like they lost after this expansion, as the zones got denser and denser with stuff.
Obviously the density is usually good, more stuff to do, and you also don’t want too much open space like in Burning Crusade or some zones of northrend. But pandaria struck the perfect balance of density while also giving the zones room to breathe.
The new grizzly hills.
This feels blasphemous, but I'm biased. I still put the grizzly hills music on, Ioved that zone.
I will never forget this expansion launch, especially since I received Realm First! Level 90 Hunter.
The memories of being ONE OF THE FIRST into a brand new zone. Having ALL of Kun-Lai Summit to myself. I remember just stopping, looking around, and taking it all in.
Once I hit level 90, I was FLOODED with messages from everyone across the realm. I've never felt more accomplished in my life.
Hands down one of the greatest experiences of my life.
Swampdudejr
Classic MoP when?
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3-4 years most likely since it seems like classic Cata will be coming.
Funny thing is that in a decade, we're all gonna play wow classic because we have defeated the biggest villain in the wow universe in retail which marks the end of the story. There will be no more wow retail updates after this. And wow classic is probably in the dragonflight expansion in a decade.
5-6 years probably
Will never happen
never, hopefully.
TIL me and MoP share a birthday. Happy Birthday MoP!
Happy birthday!!
Thanks!
Oddly enough the only launch day experience that I no longer remember. I wonder why
Edit: I remember! I played a monk in the old zones. I guess that's why it was filed elsewhere. It was the only launch where I didn't rush to the new zones right away
Probably because it was actually good so you have nothing bad enough to scar your memory like shadowlands does.
Unless you played Alliance. Then, you were stuck on the gyrocopter in Jade Forest waiting to blow up the stupid ship(?) that only one person could get credit for at a time.
OMG this here lol. I think those of us on my guild queued for a dungeon while being stuck in the gyrocopter. I think I laughed so hard at the ridiculousness of it and how crazy chat was going. MoP was my first expansion with WoW and that moment is my most memorable moment that I look back on and laugh.
one of my biggest regrets in my gaming life is that I had the chance to start playing WoW in MoP after Runescape's EoC update, but instead I got addicted to League.
Literally why u subbed to wow
Awesome expansion! The first one I bought physical collectors edition. Still have it in my wardrobe.
Used to play paladin with a lot of haste, it was a blast.
Good memories.
My fav xpac, valley of four winds is my fav zone, and i loved my farm!
I feel like Pandaria was the last expansion that went truly hard on casual play. If you weren't one for the standard end-game feedback loop of gearing to do instances to gear to do more instances, there was still so much to do. Legion was a close second.
Fishing, cooking, farming, lore delived via scenarios and archaeology, rep grinds, pet battles, collecting, goid story, scenic land that just felt good to fly over.
It was an expansion that truly made player experience and the 'feel' top priority.
Even the unflyable mini zones felt ok, because flying between them gave feel akin to the castle in Mario 64.
I agree, every expansion since has been butchered.
Rip metalock
Damn. I stopped playing after this expansion. Can’t believe that was 10 years ago
Same. Came back in SL. Mists was the last time Ill ever have been really good at the game.
It wasn't that good.
There were Benies sure. Class design 100%, Leveling zones 100%. The story was on the decline but not to the point where we're at now.
But it was grind heavy fucking aye MOP personally killed rep grinds for me (I absolutely refuse to do them now), not all that alt friendly, and frankly the PVP was not my favorite.
But when you look at what comes after it....abandoned expansions with no end game, Areas and entire zones you basically just skip, and oh lord the story telling. PVP so imbalanced that it's just not fun.
You can look half way down the fall and feel nostalgic for how you felt a quarter down the fall. But you were right then to complain about falling as much as you are now
Imagine us falling for 10 years
I feel like all the hate for MoP is purely from people who refuse to play it because pandas. Anyone else feel this way too?
Yup Pandaria came out on my Birthday! Pretty good present tbh!
Happy Birthday! Mine too! To be honest it’s how I always remember that it came out on that day.
The time when mw monk was a great healer both pvp and pve
my first and only realm first achievement was achieved 10 years ago!
That’s the expansion that I started playing in so it will always have a lot of great memories for me. Also my guild at the time was small but very friendly so that was great too.
I wasn't the most hype about the theme of the expansion but it the end its been my favorite expansion ever since.
MoP was so good!
I love the zones, the music, my main is a Monk, ToT and Isle of Thunder, Timeless Isle and the legendary questlines were fun. And hey, who remembers Garalon in LFR? 🤣 Scenarios were good but needed some tweaks, wish they'd build upon it in future expansions.
Sure, the amount of daily quests were a bit much and SoO wore out its welcome cause the patch lasted so long. But no expansion is perfect.
I won’t talk crap on systems or any of that. But setting-wise, 23 year old me was like what the fuck is this and why am I here?
Jesus. I was 23 ten years ago. I don’t feel good, I need to lie down.
I got progressively sadder writing this. I still FEEL 20 something in my mind.
Crazy how we had mop style talents for longer than we ever had talent trees. Glad they're coming in a big way
Mop had some of the best zones and raids. Throne of thunder was such a good experience. But I really enjoyed seige of org. That first water boss was always a good laugh. And even though I thought the sha thing was a bit silly, it did at least fit into the theme.
The pets were obviously cool too for a side thing, new farming with the tillers, fishing for those coloured rare carps.
And the blood coin thing was dope on that last island that I forget the name of. But anyway, Mists had so much content and at the time the game got a lot of haters. Ironic that a lot of players coming back for wod with its more serious orc tone had not enough content.
The World PvP, the Sunsong Ranch, Lei Shen, the stories of Lorewalker Cho, such a good time...
The literal BEST pvp expansion... anyone that disagrees is wrong and didn't play Mop all the way through, my greatest memories on wow is from Mop, actually getting to world Pvp all the time even Gurubashi arena was popping but after this expansion all went down hill for pvp from there. War mode and changing servers off of PVP servers was one of the worst things blizzard has done to their game. All it takes is the return of normal pvp servers and war mode to be abolished for the return of world pvp one of the Major things in wow to have a come back. I beg of this every single day for wow
I was 18 back then, had my mage with Dragonwrath ready. Still my main. Good times.
Even PvP was perfect ! Lot of viable and different arena team-comp possible !
Cant wait for classic. Everyone says class design were godlike and destro were great, wonder what these mean.
Looking forward to playing it in Classic, hopefully with Heroic dungeons that matter. I've skipped raiding for the most of it the first time around, but not due to expansion being "bad" - playerbase saying it was always strange to me - but rather because this is an expansion that basically killed all enjoyment to play Mage, so I just quested with several characters at the beginning of each patch and that's it. Warlocks though were (and stay) amazing, thanks, Xelnath!
The day World of Warcraft died
The nail in the coffin for wow.
I loved the zones in mop the most ngl
Unreal that mop could be considered a boomer expansion at this point..
On this day 10 years ago, I'm pretty sure I shit my pants
I know we all have our favorites, and we sometimes look at certain content with rose-colored glasses, but Pandaria has to be my favorite expansion.
The Story was good, the zones/art were beautiful, the raids were memorable, there was plenty of engaging content in the open world (IK there were plenty of grinding areas/dailies but in general they felt enjoyable).
While I think "Classic" should stop at Wrath, because the whole in-game world changed in Cata, and it was the first modern feeling expansion, I wouldn't be upset if they got to Pandaria (But no further!!!!)
An incredibly fun expansion. Nice to look back on. I still enjoying playing it. I doubt I will ever touch Shadowlands content again.
This is my first actual expansion I played on my own when I was 14 and it was such a fantastic experience
Aesthetically on par with Northrend, and wonderful music too. I don't miss the old expansions, i miss the attitude that made them possible.
Yall trynna folk me into being nostalgic to the worst expansion in the games history
The best story expansion.
My first expansion. Loved levelling but remember my friend pressuring me to hurry so I could do end game stuff with them. Keep in mind 1 to whatever level it was took forever I guess.
I didn’t play it when it was released but when I was levelling at wod. I fell in love with the mop.. i was so immersed.
Such an amazing expansion. So long my love
My first wow experience
Oh Pandaland <3
I go there all the time to collect, dig, run instances. So relaxing and fun.
The best expansion.
Ah yes I remember being stuck in an endless train of helicopters for hours.
I know many people loved TBC & WotLK most, but for me MoP was the best expansion blizzard ever released. I wasnt a fan of the simplification of talents and all that, but the exploration, the questing, the dungeons/raids, and the zones were absolute god-tier imo. I spent about 2 months of playtime just on Timeless Isle with my guild hunting the "rares". The absolute best memories I have from WoW were during this expansion.
I wish they’d bring Jeremy Soule onto the soundtrack team again in the future. You could hear his influence instantly. 👌🏻
My best time in the game. 🎍
The only expansion during which I did not play, and I regret it greatly. One of my favourites to quest through.
Timeless Isle was still the best addition to WoW they ever added. I would love an MMO that was nothing but Timeless Isles.
Despite the hate it got i loved mop and was my favourite expansion besides wrath. And raidwise it was especially awesome.
Along with all of the other things everyone else has commented about, I miss being a ridiculously broken OP disc priest.
Many said that mop wasn’t that great but it has still my favourite zones, mobs, raids, mounts and music
The midnight release was fun lol
My lock will never again be half as fun as it was in Mists.
Damn I can remember getting this for Christmas and playing on a laptop throughout, so much nostalgia!
Kill it with fire
By far the worst addon
The expansion where my love for the game died.
This was my favourite expansion. Logging in on day one and make a panda monk and not looking back. It became my main character until shadowlands. The music and landscape of pandaria, good times!
On this day 10 years ago... This panda whooped the horde and alliance's ass straight up
My favorite exp of all times and the most underrated imo.
Long life to pandaria.
I know it's not poplar but i really liked MOP. I'm a Buddhist so i loved the subtle eastern spirituality behind it.
This made me quit WoW
The first expansion I skipped entirely. Fucking hated that one.
GOAT expansion, fight me
That's not rose tinted glasses, I've felt that way since it dropped. It was such a fantastic expansion. Siege was a great raid, just lasted too long.
.... and bitch about it for years until the half way point of Legion. NOW it's looked fondly upon.
What a great expansion. Awesome exploration. I’m very sad how some ppl reacted to this expansion. Especially since that intro cinematic is such a banger.
Mists was an underrated Expansion imo. I loved the all the mandarin references and aesthetic. Plus, they had great storytelling. Don’t get me started on the music. Some days I found myself just standing idle on my kung fu panda monk Listening. Truly a gem
I hated it
What a glorious time that was...only 4 more years till Mists classic!
Best expansion in wow and nothing else comes close lmao.
Best expansion.
Ah, the downfall of World of Warcraft! Nice reminder bro.
such a horrible aesthetic whole expansion felt like a bad joke ....imo
This was the only time I actually got up in the middle of the night to play at launch.
Had an absolutely Potato of a PC back then, getting to Pandaland on the airship was a nightmare of disconnects and reloads.
But once there, wow, the Jade Forest. It was like a walking around in a Shaw Brothers film.
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I feel so old. I remember that so vividly.
The moment I quit WoW, because life happened 😐
Was sooo fun.
OW MY BONES
I feel old.
MoP was a great xpac but the never ending final tier of cata wore too many people out I think
IMO it was one of WoW's two "peaks" (with Wrath). Such a fun expac, and didn't have any of the stupidness of the more recent expacs.
I didn't play it until like 3 months after launch cause of GW2 coming out, then Rift had an expac drop in Nov. But Pandas And Pokemon will always be the best of those three lol
best expansion yet, saying otherwise means you're band wagon riders.
seriously though I just dont see why pandaria got so much hate prior to its release. Yes I know why people were mad, it was new lore, but I dont see why that was a bad thing. At least they wrote new lore that was actually cool and interesting instead of the clusterfuck and bastardization of Warcraft that is Shadowlands, and the new expansion maybe? I dont know I stopped even reading retail news let alone playing once I started doing Amphet when shadowlands released final update and announced new xpac.
I still miss you Shaman, you are a symbol of the years of warcraft for me. Its not you its your devs, fuck them.
The lore felt so good that cycle. Shit was happening and everyone was involved. So many people went into that expac thinking "ew pandas" and left saying Garrosh did nothing wrong.
I wish i had appreciated the expac more at the time. Looking back now it was amazing and the downhill for wow started after MOP.
Fixed On this day 10 years ago Blizzard killed WoW
Also, first expansion that I skipped.
My last expansion before I had to start being an adult. D: