My discipline priest build seems to differ from the norm

Discussion

I recently hit 1800 on disc in 2s, an achievement I have never had before. I am talented into mindbender and running the four piece tier set bonus, which I don’t get why more people don’t do. Drop mindbender, power infuse your partner, then smite spam on the kill target, cast mindgames right beforehand so each smite is lowering its CD. If you don’t get your smites interrupted your mindbender is immediately off cd again.

I don’t play with any addons, ui changes, or even macros. Every OTHER disc priest seems to run ultimate penitence, which while yes, it looks cool, isnt really that threatening because I will survive it and its on a 4 minute cd. Once its over I have constant kill pressure. I often outdamage my partner (usually an outlaw rogue or survival hunterg) and the SECOND the KT is in execute range I double shadow word death them.

My only issue is mana, I will often run out before the enemy, but the constant smiting gives me mindbenders frequently to regen it, as well as renew proccing free flash heals. When all else fails, the 3% mana restore from the belf racial has saved my ASS a few times.

Any thoughts on this style of build? I feel like its just as viable

in worldofpvpby ghgahghh11

37%

4mo

Dougdimmadommee

4mo

You don’t have to drop ultimate pen to play mindbender, pretty sure the meta damage build is what he is plays (checkpvp him if you want it).

Not really sure what you are playing that would make you need to drop it to get to mindbender unless you are trying to also play radiance, which yeah that’s kind of just a worse version of the build. Ultimate pen is insane.

bufftreants

4mo

Who is the player you were recommending to check pvp for the mindbender + ultimate pen build? :)

Dougdimmadommee

4mo

Ah balls, didn't realize it was autocorrected lol. His name is Hemmis, top EU disc priest.

bufftreants

4mo

Thank you!

ghgahghh11

-15

4mo

What is radiance? Ive got the pvp talent for it but idk what else is offered in the build

Ultimate pen is the ultimate eye roll for me when its used on me I laugh it off and pop a defensive then punish hard

Dougdimmadommee

4mo

What is radiance.

It’s a healing spell. Second line of the disc tree. If you play the damage build you generally don’t play it and would never ever play the pvp talent, since you literally can’t use it if you don’t have radiance.

Ultimate pen is the ultimate eye roll for me

Well, you’re 1800 for the first time and the best players of your spec obviously don’t share your opinion since literally all of them play it. This in mind there are really 2 possibilities:

All of the best discs who play the game as a part time job and have for years in many cases are wrong and your build is superior.
You are wrong and its good.

Food for thought.

ghgahghh11

-14

4mo

I mean there’s no superior man there’s just… different…

And yeah I play radiance I guess its a good heal to cast when im holy locked

Dougdimmadommee

4mo

I mean there’s no superior man there’s just… different….

Well, no, there is superior. Some builds are simply better than others in this game. That doesn’t mean that you can’t play whatever build you want, but yeah if you try playing disc without rapture and dome its going to be bad. Not just different, bad.

Again if you feel more comfortable with that build and want to play it there is nothing wrong with that, but its important to understand why the meta builds are the meta before you start changing them if your goal is to have a build that’s near optimized.

stronglightbulb

4mo

Different in the sense that some at rank 1 and you are 1800

yomen_

4mo

How can you say it's ultimate eyeroll when it's forcing a defensive? It's one talent point, why in the world would you not run it?

Also, the Mindbender build with 4pc is pretty common in 2v2, it just sucks in 3s and shuffle since you can't really Smite more than a handful of times at most.

ghgahghh11

4mo

What build is better in 3s?

yomen_

4mo

This is the standard more defensive 3s build:

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Winring86

4mo

A lot of disc priests run a very offensive build in 2s. Your build is probably a little different than standard offensive, but honestly you can make any build work at 1800. If it feels fun to play then do it.

Not to diminish your achievement, it’s a big milestone. But being 1800 rated even doesn’t put you in the top 2000 disc priests in 2s right now. You don’t really have to play a completely optimal build in that area of the ladder - which is okay

ghgahghh11

-7

4mo

I mean I once hit 1780 on a computer that got 15 fps playing wow as disc in bfa

I kinda just take my acheivements as they are haha i never compare to others

Tutzor

4mo

But you literally did that in this post?

ghgahghh11

-2

4mo

Im a discipline priest. Im about mitigating damage, not rectifying it.

Tutzor

4mo

So what is the point of this thread, if you never compare with others?

ghgahghh11

4mo

I consume you whole

[deleted]

4mo

If you run out of mana there can be different reasons: 1.Your team doesnt use defensives correctly and they take big dmg. 2.Other team is pumping to hard and you dont peel 3. You are ineficient with your rotation 4. You do a lot of overhealing

Yamaha9

4mo

I struggle a lot with overheating as disc because I’ve always heard to be proactive as disc.

Any tips to help with that?

[deleted]

4mo

The only thing that should overheal on disci is attonement and thats fine. Disci in about preventint dmg. How do you overheal? You use flashheal at 90%?

Yamaha9

4mo

Ok good its usually atonement, but I also have overhealing on Radiance a lot of the time.

I think it's because I'll sometimes just use radiance to apply atonement to everyone before I reup dots or start doing damage?

I only flash heal when its a free instant proc, otherwise I spam renew to get shield off CD if I can't penance or radiance

[deleted]

4mo

Dont ever use radiance on purpose to apply attonement. You should have it always from shield

ghgahghh11

-7

4mo

I just think “you know I bet something bad is about to happen” then use my luminous barrier or whatever

Always right. Trust your gut.

rizzurect

4mo

Or just track enemy cds so you know when a setup is coming so you dont press defensives on air

ghgahghh11

-7

4mo

I trust my gut

rizzurect

4mo

I guess thats why ur only 1800, ill let u be

ghgahghh11

-5

4mo

Yeah using my defensives before I sense a big damage pump coming vs reactionarily definitely helps

SafSince92

4mo

😂😂😂I dunno if you’re trolling or not. You’re trying to sense a go? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂track cool-downs. Stop talking shit.

daocsct

4mo

Because Weal and Woe is so good and so important, I actively try not to Smite much as Discp

ghgahghh11

-1

4mo

Never used it

Facefoxa

:discipline:

4mo

Your build is great and super fun in 2s but really struggles in 3s/shuffle

ghgahghh11

-8

4mo

Me and my duos partner are pretty good at convincing our regular 3s guy that he is the issue

Praestekjaer

4mo

Play both. I can't tell how many games ultimate penitence has won me

Serious_Raspberry124

4mo

As a Disc player myself you gotta LOS alot don't get hit big communicate with your partner on defensive CDs. Last thing you want to do is life swap while he uses Turtle for example. I swap from the 10% mana reduction to the 10% dmg/atom healing through out the game. But if you fall behind and can't keep your partner up and Starr spaming flash heal. You will lose fast.

lapippin

-1

DF m glad/m legend

4mo

Your build is fine, lots of people run mind bender with 4set in 2s.

Also ultimate P isn’t only for damage, it’s very valuable for topping off your team in dampening.

Actually the damage component is super unreliable and borderline trolling all things considered. I haven’t seen UltiP be threatening at all outside of some very specific low rated scenarios.

CaptainMaestro

4mo

A well timed MB into UP can be super dangerous if your team is topped and you have one enemy in LOS. It absolutely can get trinket and personals if timed right. I always try to use it as a momentum builder/game winner in 2s

ghgahghh11

4mo

Oh I didn’t think abt that