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It’s like you’ve read nothing I wrote. I have not been defining citizenship or calling into question the fact that Muslim Israelis are indeed called citizens in Israel.
I have been, this entire time, explaining the exact point you made. The comments I have been replying to have been explicitly implying that because they are citizens, they have equal protection and treatment under the law. This is patently false. They are the ones drawing false equivalence between being “citizens” and equal treatment, not me.
You asked if you should be considered a full citizen if you don't have equal protection under the law (right to travel etc). I'm simply answering that question, yes lots of full citizens suffer discrimination, the two things are not mutually exclusive and never have been.
Eta: my concern is that you are taking any possibility of Arab citizenship off the table by pointing to discrimination. I don't feel Arab citizenship should be taken off the table, even though there is discrimination.
And that’s exactly my point, thank you for acknowledging it. It should be clear this is what I have been saying, and I am arguing with people who believe that because they are citizens, they have equal treatment under the law, probably because it helps them feel better about the whole Palestine-Israel situation if the side they support is completely in the right and just, and the other side is completely in the wrong. The world is not so black and white.
Edit: I’m taking the possibility off the table? How? I am fully aware, again, that they are considered citizens in Israel. Context and reading are important. All I have been doing is challenging their implication that this means they are a liberal western democracy like us, and afforded equal protection under the law to their Jewish compatriots. Which they are not. Because being a citizen in a secular liberal western democracy means this, they assume being a citizen means the same thing in Israel. Unfortunately it does not, because Israel is not a secular liberal democracy.
Being a citizen of the US has not meant this. That's why I point out black people. Citizenship has to do with nationality, not treatment under the law. Nationality is at the core of this issue. Should Palestine be its own nation state? Should Israel be the only nation state in the region? By claiming Arabs can't actually be citizens of Israel because of discrimination, does that mean they should be citizens of the nation state of Palestine? Being a citizen does mean the same thing everywhere, but it has never meant equality.