I'll start and thats really unpopular, i really, really, Don't care about Dexer (Exer and David from Jackson's Diary) like seriously i see so many people gushing over them and I'm just like.....alright, like i really wish Paola focused more on the supernatural stuff and building Lore than those two but anyway, i don't hate them either they're fine, its not like the Kiss Bet where i despise everyone.
Webtoon needs to figure out if they want adult stuff on it or not. I have read some of the most messed up things in some webtoons, but the minute things get a little steamy there are like a million rules.
A stalker hiding in someone's house using adult diapers to remain unseen, fine. Cannibalism, body horror, implied rape, we encourage it.
A well built up to, makes sense in the story sex scene? Absolutely not, and do not even talk about it. I get if it's a story about minors then for sure, don't allow that, but can we please get some really good age restrictions in place?
I do read webtoons like Death: Rescheduled which had a literal spine tearing scene, so I'm pretty immune to a lot of gore. I think that really gory webtoons like Death: Rescheduled should have an age limit though like sex scenes.
Wait could you tell me what webtoons the "stalker hiding in someone's house....implied r**e" are from? They sound like my kinda thing.
I think the stalker in someone's house is from the early-ish chapters of Lookism, idk about the rest tho
Yea I think it's Lookism. That was one of my favorite arcs. Lol
Lookism!!
the couple from marry my husband are so boring it makes me want to cry. i can't recall one moment of them doing anything that felt romantic to me.
i also really hate how the main character completely changed her original style to dressing up more every day. i get it, but she looked genuinely adorable with her big harry potter glasses and ponytail. i don't see why she needs to be dressed to the nines everyday for her little office job to be truly successful. that's definitely the author's own secret bias coming through imo lol
Yeah i agree, honestly that book a huge soap opera to me
That's how I read it, as a soap opera. I enjoyed it while at the same time recognize its not great.
Thank you!
My interest renewed when the reveal about the LI happened but then when they expanded on it, it turns out his love for MC was from him observing her feeding a stray cat.
So lame.
And they both looked so much better before their makeovers.
the ml is especially boring. he just happens to be there conveniently to be fl's love interest. he's hot but that's all i remember about him
Honestly think he only looked great in my eyes because I was comparing him to the ex while I was reading. So he’s not held by a very high bar to the audience in terms of character 💀
I think the worst part is that he is better in the actual book. They cut stuff out for the webtoon 😭
The ML killed himself after she died, this is not how you write a character.
I have never seen him do anything besides being a trophy husband. He has ZERO personality. I genuinely hate romance stories where the dude acts as a golden retriever.
If you want a good romance, make it like Doom breaker. Write a romance like Zephyr's and Altair's.
Prevalent, but does not interfere with the goals of characters. They help each other as much as possible if the other is in a shitshow. This is love.
I mean it's South Korea - a culture that revolves from lookism for both males and females. Good luck getting anything over there, both in professional and social life, when you apparently don't look like a Korean drama star.
Every female lead is a beauty. Every male dude of interest is a genetic hot guy who is tall, handsome and so forth.
What do you expect?
i expected to be able to share my unpopular opinion on the post asking for unpopular opinions without someone who covertly disagrees with me pretending im speaking out of turn because thats easier than just explaining why they disagree in a way that would actually be interesting and thought provoking lol
LO Persephone and Hades are cute when they're completely out of context, like completely out of context. Like if I had no clue what LO even was and stumbled across a decent looking panel, I would think to myself "aww they're kinda cute".
I haven't finished reading the series yet, but I'm starting to really hate the whole thing with Minthe. Like yeah, she didn't treat Hades well, but the way Hades emotionally cheated on her and chased after someone he didn't even know while stringing Minthe along is awful, and then Persephone rages at MINTHE, and we're supposed to root for Persephone and dislike Minthe, even though Persephone is the one causing Minthe so much pain and trouble?? Idk I just had to rant a little thank you for coming to my Ted talk
Edit: and one more thing. Minthe clearly has horrible abandonment issues and possibly BPD, and as someone with both of those things, it hurts to see a character like that villainized and treated so badly. Like imagine having the worst inferiority complex of all time, having crippling abandonment issues, and then being emotionally cheated on. Again, she's not a great person, but she gets shit on in the story so much and I hate it
And then she gets turned into a plant as a joke. 🥲
Actually in the original mythology, Minthe did get turned into a plant. Most works say that she was Hades concubine and Persephone turned her into a plant out of jealousy, thus creating the mint plant.
Nicander is similar but the difference is that while Persephone did kill her, it was Hades who turned her corpse into a plant and named it mint in her memory.
However, Oppian wrote that Minthe was Hades lover before Persephone and he left her for Persephone. Minthe then went around boasting that she was prettier than Persephone and that Hades would come back to her. For this, Demeter stomped her to death and the mint plant grew from the Earth where she died.
With this context the storyline makes sense.
Don’t care if I get torched from this one but Shu and Min from Phase are very toxic and should not end up together. There’s way too many lies and secrets in their relationship hell at one point Shu was using Min because of her powers despite the fact that he also criticized Leon for doing the same thing. I’m not a Leon fan either. Min is also clearly not over Leon and needs to work on that before she got with Shu I’m sure they’ll both have character development later and grow but as of right now I’m just not a fan of them as a couple I mostly prefer the sci-fi mystical element of the story instead of the romance
I dropped that when Shuu was dying for 20 chaps
Real
I'm not caught up because I personally find Min so annoying and immature. I'm not sure how old they are supposed to be but they all act like teenagers. Also, it's constantly on hiatus so it's hard to remain interested.
I agree on Leon not being the one either but when their teenager arc began i forgot the main story lol. They were very cute, wish the things happened between them could've been resolved :(
Yeah, all the relationships were so messy that I had to drop the webtoon because I literally could not root for Min to be with anyone 😭
A thread with real hot takes for once
samael and rayne's relationship developing within the span of a week is way too fast. a whirlwind romance can be enthralling but the way ms. freaky wrote them was just not it.
[Homesick]
I haven’t read homesick in a while and im unsure if I want you to tell me what happened or I should just start reading it again. Like I wanna be told but im not sure if I’ll regret the spoiler or not. Im kinda sad cause I loved Rayne and Samuels dynamic. Now im just more and more curious on what went wrong
you might still love their dynamic! my opinion is unpopular for a reason.
Literally I had to drop it because of how weird their relationship felt so quickly
I think Cesare from I’m the Queen in This Life has more chemistry (even though morally he sucks) with Ariadne than Alfonso. They’re just more fun to read than the main couple even if I don’t necessarily want them to get together for obvious reasons.
I understand you. I always think that Cesare has more chemistry with Ariadne and their interaction is more interesting, but when Alfonso shows green flags and I get back to being loyal to him. Their relationship is sweet, can’t wish to undo it.
Yeah Alfonso is just a golden retriever who eventually snaps at his owner. I see why that might appeal to some but for me i’m just sleeping
Hi, that’s me, I’m the big fan of the golden retriever boyfriend 😂
I support you 🥹
I honestly don't believe he liked Isabella in his previous life, but he believed he was entitled to her (Isabella) because she's pretty.
She was also married to Alfonso, and he covets what Alfonso has.
In short, he only wanted Isabella because she was married to Alfonso. Now that Alfonso is in love with Ariadne, he wants her. Cesare acts like a child who wants to steal his brother's favorite toy.
Omg I feel the same way. I don't think I can't ship Cesare with Ariadne because of what he did during their previous life. I ship her with Rafael, the new guy. They had more chemistry is one chapter than Ariadne did with Alfonso this entire comic. I also think he's a bit too obsessed with her.
Felt that.
Charles in let's play needs to return to Wales, stop getting in the plot and just stay there
Dude shouldn't even exist in the story honestly. He has no relevance. I hated reading about him and wanted Sam and Marshall to get along more and develop their relationship. Charles made me drop the series. 😂
I get the character. She's inexperienced, he's 'the ideal man with caveats opening her horizons (or legs)' but yes, heyyyy Sam, look at Marshall (look at link, sorry), yessss look at Marshall, expand the story...pleeeeeease, wtf bowser!!!! That cliffhanger still burns.
Last I read, Link was pining for Angela, right? I found it a bit invasive of Link pushing Vicki and Sam to talk about what happened to Angela (her assault) and then crossing Angela's boundaries a couple of times.
I just wanted to read a story about a girl and a YouTuber making amends, becoming great friends, and even creating a video game together. They had a plot point about Marshall being a great artist who created game characters but idk if that went anywhere. I dropped it after they kept pushing Charles on her.
Also lost interest when Monica (Queen) left the story for a bit before she returned.
Last thing that happened in the comic was- Charles was still there, red alert red alert,
What??? That's crazyyy 😭 what kind of twist is that?
I really awful way to go on hiatus and I mean,
unfortunately it was due to contract disputes with webtoon, she plans on finishing when she’s allowed to
The author posted on instagram that the new season of Let’s Play should be launched around Fall 2025 on another platform
Omggg i agree so much I did not enjoy at all reading about Charles and Sam 😭
Charles feels like he was transported in from a bad Wattpad story
Yes! I effing hate Charm
Suchan and Bomi jungle juice. Bomi is not “best girl”
Oh, you mean Bom right? But yeah, I agree. She still plays a—in my opinion—pretty insignificant part in the story so far. Huijin has done a lot more in the story to help it progress + aid in Suchan's development as a person.
Oops sorry yes I mean bom. But I don’t get why we are getting more bom fanservice when she isn’t even the main girl. Bom did more than huijin ever did. And besides why is she showering in suchan’s dorm?? I feel like she likes him aswell.
Huh? I'm so confused. I don't know if this shows that you like Bom or hate her lmao.
I hate bom x suchann but so many people seem to love it because we get more scenes of her in less clothes than huijin hence people call her hot. Like Juder made Lilith’s cord, of course they are going to make bom look like that with lesser clothes to no clothes on.
I'm behind on reading it by a few chapters but I miss them Huijin and Suchan so much 😫 I want this murder solved already he's gonna be so behind when he gets back
In these threads you really need to sort by controversial to get the real answers jfc
I liked the German guy better than the mls in I love yoo.
P.s. who does she end up with?
Oh I loved Dieter so MUCHHHH. He’s so beautiful
dieter for the win cuz the brothers don't deserve her, the ginger is better as a best friend and kosouke? (as much as I used to have a hard crush on him in middle school) he has way too many issues for shinae, and shiane deserves better in all aspects
no one knows, its still not finished
I love you for saying this like tbh i just dont like her with the mc anyone else but him
Dieter is the BEST. Not finished, however, I feel that all signs are pointing to Yeongi/Nol as the endgame love interest
yeahh if i remember right, back in 2017-18 quimchee mentioned on her curiouscat dieter x shinae was a crackship
not official yet, but john and sera should stay as friends. i dont feel any romantic chemistry b/w them and i feel the creator is only making them a couple for fan service
I am the opposite of u I've wanted them to get together for years and I'm so frustrated bcz I see so much chemistry
I thought the ML in Cheese in the Trap was really scary practically whole time I was reading the series the first time around, and I was scared for the FL. I just overall hated them together for the longest time. When I read it again right after I finished the first time and with the backstory things made more sense and I could see them together without being super worried LOL. But the ML gave off such ominous vibes for SO long that I couldn’t ship them together until I reread haha
I watched the kdrama before I knew there was webtoon. Honestly, if you watched the kdrama you would've hated him few episodes in. In the series you really see how unhindged he is
I watched the kdrama after reading so going into it I was wondering if they were going to keep the vibes he gave off. And yeah I didn’t like him there either haha
I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS!!! Maybe I’m not seeing the story for what it’s supposed to symbolize bc it seems to have a lot of diehard fans but the ml always gave off bad vibes to me
Yeah idk what it’s supposed to symbolize either 😅 ngl though it’s one of my favorite webcomics, not for the romance necessarily but bc the story and art did such a good job of making me feel consistently uneasy throughout. Idk if that was the intention or not, but regardless it did a good job of evoking a reaction from me that way 💀
Honestly I Spy a Married Life. I don't like where I think it's heading with the love triangle between the fl, ml, & antagonist. The author is taking the only villain in the story and making them some "misunderstood framed playboy" who just yearns for some genuine affection. I hate it. It's stupid, it's undoing the main focus of the story, it's contradicting, I just hate where the romance is heading bc everyone is making stupid decisions.
While I DID initially eat up remarried empress and Navier x Heinry, I dropped it becuase they were so boring and unlikeable. Heinry just felt straight up weird and childish and Navier got boring...
I still read it because i want to see henry and navier being more romantically involved. But in the recent chapter henry becomes more of a weird tyrant rather than the sweet loving goof. Oh and the comments, i hate them.
Dude has always been pretty shady I mean when we’re introduced to him he’s literally scoping out the Eastern Empire as a bird. Then no other Kingdom or Empire has been as prominent or important than the Western Kingdom so someone pretty powerful from the West had to be behind the mages from the East losing their power since it was an important detail.
REALLLLLLLLLLL i find heinrey INSUFFERABLE
White hair guy x mc in the tyrant wants to be good, honestly think the last thing mc needs is another obsessive relationship except reversed 💀 Just not the biggest fan of the dynamic
Kakon (author) just seemed to want a rehash of their old comic. If you read the previous work 'The Male Lead's Girl Friend" it's a vvv similar dynamic of blonde girl goes back in time and tries to be good instead of bad, white hair cold hearted guy falls for her, etc.
Yah that’s fine in itself, but because of the negative correlation the webtoon made with obsessiveness in mcs past relationship, I’m just hoping white hair guy doesn’t end up obsessed, even if it doesn’t have direct negative impacts
I prefer it to the previous work at least 🤔 idk I was hoping they ended up as enemies where he's obsessed with her but working towards an opposite goal.
That’s valid, I like the webtoon in general it’s entertaining and I’m a sucker for revenge plots, I haven’t read the authors previous work but I might check it out.
Ditto, I can’t stand how even after he is blatantly shown to be manipulative and extremely possessive over Dorothea, comments are rooting for him.
That’s true!! His beef with the red haired kids was so uncalled for????? Like dude they have way less privilege than you and you’re actually mad at her helping them? If anything I would be happy the person I liked helped somebody especially as royals
I was glad she gave him a smack after that haha
I would've gotten into a full brawl with him bro LMAO
Yeah I feel the same way, I present a possibly hotter take. I don't think that story needs romance at all or if it does happen it should happen waaay later down the plot given the MC's trauma and I personally don't think romance has much to do with her journey since it wasn't the source of her evil doings. Sure she was obsessed with Theo in the past timeline however I think that was less romantic feelings and an unhealthy desire to be loved in any sort of way.
I haven’t read it in a while but I didn’t like it either. Honestly, looking at her past life, I would love it more if there wasn’t romance at all. Literally my fav part of the manhwa is her interactions with the soldier, maid, and the poor brothers.
"My gently raised beast" protagonists romance is extremely toxic. When he "marks her" (which is a gross way of saying s&x), she is not ready. She does not understand what is happening. She ASKS HIM TO STOP. He DOES NOT STOP. That is NOT romance, that is r@pe.
I was already very uncomfortable by the series but that made me rage quit.
Iseop's romance. It started really well, but then wtf? Like... male mc acts like 13 y.o., and woman mc literally.........I think it might be spoilers, but whatever, you're all gonna be disappointed anyway. She CRIES ALMOST EVERY TIME they're having "a moment"???? I get it, she seems to me like she is on Spectrum with Intelligence 100 and Emotions 0. But why cry? She doesn't want her desire to interfere with job duties, she thinks male mc only "plays" at some point... maybe? We're never shown her thoughts regarding any other topic than "omg he's so hot". BUT THE WORST THING is ....... super spoilers............ virgin male mc wants his secretary so much, so he asks her to "stop saying no", wtf? When their flirting reaches its peak and they have a "bed time" , male so full of himself, he literally r...es her. I was so shocked when I read it, I lost my entire interest in this series. Like.... holy goddess....
came to say this :( all of these work violations happening yet everyone just swoons in the comments. it’s so sad, because i was rooting for them in the beginning, but now i even like the lawyer guy better because he at least looks out for her :(
I mean, if I really, really want people to come after me with guns to my head with a super unpopular opinion I would probably just say "Purple Hyacint and Greatest State Developer are overrated as hell", but I'm only like 15 episodes into PH, and half an episode into GSD so I can't officially say that... yet
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slight correction, I went back to check and I was actually on episode 27 of PH
Keep reading you will see that they don’t completely trust each other :)
I will. I'm just trying to find the motivation. I find the two leads rather boring and their chemistry doesn't grab me much personally.
Believe me the characters will become quite interesting, the way the author fleshed them out was very intricate - it’s my all time favorite webtoon I read it 4 times 😂
What about it makes it overrated? Not arguing here, I'm just wondering is it being heavily praised and shared all over or something? I haven't read PH but I've read TGED. Everyone I've shared it with has enjoyed it, but I haven't seen much buzz about it.
is it being heavily praised and shared all over or something? I
Yes. Every time someone asks about a good comedy, a good isekai, a good world building, or just wants to share their favorite webtoons in general lots of people will go to GSD.
This, Purple Hyacinth and Cursed Princess Club are THE trinity of series nobody dislikes and loves to praise.
What about it makes it overrated?
I'm not saying it's overrated, I'm literally still just half an episode into it. I'm just saying that's what I would say if I wanted people to come after me.
Ooooh. Okay. Makes sense. Now that I'm thinking about it cursed princesses club is a web soon that I recommend people but I always issue a content warning. I've never heard somebody say something terrible about it though
PH gets a lot more interesting later on, the first few chapters don't have even nearly the same depth as the more recent ones, and even the side characters have so much to them and they're all very well written. They start too fast, but have a massive falling out and it takes them a long time to repair the relationship.
However, GSD has a nice premise but also a pretty cliche isekai plot to the point where it's too easy to predict what happens next, and the horrible art made me drop it. The expressions are so unnecessarily exaggerated it gives me the ick.
I agree with Purple Hyacinth, but also I felt like the MC’s became steady allies far too quickly imo
I don’t think they become steady allies that quickly bc u see how they don’t completely trust each other and their fallout around episode 54
I got into the great estate developer back when it was still in its beginnings, and I really enjoyed it, it was like fresh new comedy that actually made me laugh,
With purple hyacinth however, idk why but I could just not get into it, like amazing visuals, but yeah I think they’re both really popular because you can tell the authors/artists really care about the work they’re putting into these webtoons
You are absolutely correct in that you would get attacked for that, this is the most correct comment imo.
PH I dropped three times in the first season, but then when I continued into second season I became obsessed. Some people love the first season, but it didn't appeal to me too much until the end of that season.
Agree, but I don’t judge people who like GED. I read a lot of bad webtoons which are my guilty pleasure.
Yeah, I found GSD to be really enjoyable at first. The jokes were just overused to the point it was annoying tbh. I personally still love PH though, it starts off slowish but it gets more interesting as you read.
That purple haired girl and black haired guy couple from Unordinary? Mid couple from a mid comic.
I feel like Unordinary just went on for too long
They dragged out the "I'm gonna beat everyone up at school now" arc and I was like oml please end I wanna get to the story (I really like unordinary outside of that tho)
Are they a couple?? I read Sera and John as best friends. But platonic male and female close relationships are hard to come by. It makes since people saw them as a couple but I dropped it a while back, maybe they got together at some point?
Yeah I would point a gun at u for sure lol
I was rooting for Dexer initially but I kind of dislike how it became the main focus for the fanbase and it came at the expense of them antagonizing Jackson for rightfully being angry at Exer for the stuff that occurred in Season 1, had to block two people because I was tired of seeing their horrible takes on my feed
I guess my other unpopular opinion was that I kinda preferred Pluto/Duke over Pluto/Eulalie, mainly because I felt like Berenice and Eulalie were sort of thrown in so they could have more people in the group while the other characters' integration felt a bit more natural, but they both grew on me so I don't really care either way. Honestly just waiting for Season 2 lol
Ok, I will make people real mad with this, but I'm gonna say it anyway:
Kym and Will have more chemistry and are a more appealing dynamic than Lauren and Kieran.
And Seol x Jung makes zero sense to me. I consider cheese in the trap's ending a tragic one.
Now pull the trigger.
Hold up. I like Kym and Will. I love their dynamic and it’s really sweet. But Lauren and Kieran? Lauki? They have so much more chemistry and a way more fleshed out relationship. It’s the classic Enemies to Friends to Lovers and is one of the best portrayals of the trope that I’ve ever seen.
But you did say a more appealing dynamic and I can see how personal taste comes into play.
I agree Kym and Will are so cute but Lauki is omggggggg the tension is there. They went through so much stuff together and their relationship really evolved during the seasons. You could see that it took Lauren quite some time to trust again Kieran and the way the author portrayed it was exquisite.
Ikr! It’s just nice to see a relationship that has actual ups and downs, y’know?
loads What did you say about Lauki.
Bring it on. I'm ready for my downfall.
🔫💥
wait but lauren and kieran is literally the definition of enemies to lovers slow burn while i think kym and will have that childhood friends to lovers vibe why dont u like laurki??
Yeah Jung is a massive creep. He manipulated everyone around him including her, and she knows this and hangs out with him anyway. I was really hoping she'd leave him in the end.
Sigh. Here we go again. I can understand that Jung for you is a massive creep but he developed that way due to how he was brought up. That was his way of coping. But I'm not giving him any excuses, you see. He can't just outright say what he dislikes because of how he is brought which is very opposite to In ho. In ho can do whatever he wants but from what I see, he was actually no better. He also reeks immaturity, actually both of them. In the end tho, they became better and they grew from their experiences.
What I can truly say is CITT dives into psychological aspects of humanity. It is very deep. Thus, I do understand if some of you can't really appreciate well how each characters are weaved.
I really don't understand how people rooted, no actually STILL root for him and their relationship?
I watched the first KDrama version of CITT so long ago that I barely remember it, but >! in the end, Seol broke up with him and ended up with no one, and let me tell you people were MAD mad. The comic creator even had to address the backlash even though she had no say on the drama. !<
To be fair, though >! the first version was made before the comic concluded!<
The drama ending of the first CITT was TOP PAR. It was super realistic and how people should really treat themselves. They were not an OTP at all.
I liked the webtoon but it's been years since I read it (I was following it) so I can't say for sure if he truly redeemed himself or if it was a fan pleasing ending but he surely was a creep and stalker.
Correction: both the kdrama ending and movie ending were open-ended. The difference is that the kdrama provided an ending about the possible future. It was understandable since the CITT webtoon was still ongoing at that time. The movie ending was scene taken from original webtoon. In the movie, they only tackled the "stealer" arc. But take note that the webtoon was still not yet done by that time.
Both endings for me were good. I liked how the kdrama ending was realistic, in a way, Jung healed himself first to become worthy of Seol and Seol establishing herself in the industry she worked in. I also liked how the movie ending was also open-ended and was closer to home with the webtoon.
My people!! So many readers say he really turned around and was redeemed by the end and how much Seol grew, and I'm like....where? The way it concluded where it was 90% build up and 5% character growth (and 5% resolution) was so unsatisfying, especially since she didn't learn to leave him in the end, but instead chose to stay with a broken manipulator. But every time I say this, Jung defenders come out of the woodwork and just say I read it wrong and need to re-read it. CITT is not getting another 50 hours out of me, thanks.
I respect your opinion about Lauki but it is also simply incorrect. :) Hope this helps ! xoxo
Agreed. I really preferred her with Inho or single than ending up with Jung.
apparently I can't said anything bad about Hooky in a topic specifically asking thing you don't like on thing you like...
I mean i kinda liked Hooky but i gotta say i didin't care about the main couples, the only couple i really shipped was Damien and his prince boyfriend
Sameee, Damien and the prince was the only couple that really intrigued me. Dani x the older boy or x Nico were cute, but seemed like short childhood crushes. And I honestly got annoyed with Dorian x the princess because their ship always seemed to be taking off whenever Dani was going THROUGH IT mentally/getting traumatized and I got annoyed that one twin got to have cute romances and grow up a little while the other kept getting hit with the worst emotions/was literally trapped in her own mind/ felt lost. It seemed so unfair to me lmao, justice for Dani
Nol and Shin-Ae from I Love Yoo. People just ignore the fact that he got a girlfriend lol
Right? Awesome character, but as a friend. Dieter clearly has more chemistry
it's coz his girlfriend is mostly just in name, and is one of mrs hirahara's puppets
doesn't give him authority to cheat lol they seriously dated before, mrs hirahara didn't make her his gf.
true beauty makes me wanna rip my hair out 🧎♀️
Ok but wheres the controversial take
Pffft
LMAO EXACTLY
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I’ve said it in a similar post, but Julia and Sahed from Marionetta. The relationship combines two tropes I’ve always hated; the Oppressor x Oppressed trope ((Regardless of Julia’s character development, it just feels wrong), and the female lead ending up with the smug asshole romantically trope. Also any attempt the story does to make it seem like they’re falling for each other just feels very forced and superficial
The fact that the series seems so keen on the relationship happening made me want to drop the webtoon altogether despite liking a lot about it
I can see your point, and I understand that this is an unpopular take, but how is Julia, in your mind, still part of The Oppressor? To me this reads more as a “gets un-brainwashed when they meet the ‘enemy’ of their people” but I do want to see your opinion some more
“Oppressor” might be too strong of a word in this sense, but she was still racist towards Sahed’s people and I think it’s a really lame story trope to have a former bigot end up with someone they were bigoted towards. Similar to what I dislike about the “Enemies to lovers” trope. Not sure how else to explain it
Its funny, i love enemies to lovers, but I'm the same with the bigot/bigotee (questionable grammar that i stand by) relationships.
Enemies can have amazing chemistry, bigotry doesn't for me.
Ah gotcha, I understand. Thank you for explaining. I see your reservations about this type of trope
Tbh, I kinda just wanted Julia to have no romantic interests, at least for now. To me, she’s very much still in her character development. And just c’mon, that story’s mysterious and suspenseful lore is much more interesting to me than the romance plot.
I disliked Julia's best friend being with Sahed's twin sister (?) (It's been a while since I've read this, so I forgot all the names) because it honestly just felt like she liked her for the sole reason that she was a "three eyes", and it was hard to root for their relationship with that vibe.
Idk how to explain Ira and Joon from the girl downstairs just bothers me sm
I didn't like Tower of God, Unordinary, or Solo Leveling.
I hate nano machine, the MC is bad, the story is bad, the MC is not a "good" MC, he sometimes kills innocent people just for revenge (the son and the nephew of the woman who killed his mom) and they definitely didn't deserve it ! The mc is nothing without the system, and he definitely has the main character syndrome. Every two chapters, a miracle happens that makes him even stronger, which is not even funny anymore. He doesn't train. It's the system that trains for him. The manhwa is trash
John and Sera are boring now, they should just stay as best friends
The more I read about Chanyang the more I like him as a character and absolutely dislike him as a partner for Nari. I can't see the cute romance at all, all I can see is his codepedency issues and her savior complex. Anytime I see him professing his undying love for Nari again and again I cringe, because he is quite smug about it, which would be perhaps cute if he had, like, a sense of self of his own?
Also, Ira and Joon. Again a character who has always been in love with the MC, that was waiting for the whole comic till he's single. I do not like the trope of one person waiting for ages, till the other person they were in love with finally starts seeing something in them. It is shown as cute, but for me it's just upsetting. I understand that sometimes love flourishes after years of being friends and I don't actually mind the trope if done well, but in comics it's usually shown as no chemistry at all between the two, for years, and then suddenly - one looks at the other and thinks "actually I guess they're hot as well". What? Why??
The main couple in Down To Earth isn’t especially unhealthy. Zada explicitly spends time away from Kade to develop a better sense of self, and they don’t actually get together until… like… a long ways in. They’re fairly healthy communicators, and Zada is a grown-ass woman who despite some of her knowledge blind spots and awkward language, is more than capable of making her own decisions. I’m not gonna pretend that comic’s the best thing in the world, but people act like their dynamic is super toxic when I just… don’t really see it.
I def don't perceive them as a toxic pair, but they do have their individual issues to sort out
Villain with a crush is shit with unfunny jokes. I don’t see humour everybody praises.
Main character is stalker and doesn’t deserve her crush (he’s empty shell of a character in my opinion). She’s a stalker who lied about not being a stalker.
I’m ready to be downvoted to hell.
Edit: as someone called out I used vile language to express my opinion. I apologise for that.
villain with a crush is silly humor lol, it’s definitely not for everyone. it’s got a lot of dramatic irony and clever plotting with the blackdog misunderstanding and the wacky shenanigans with the super people. it’s a parody of the superhero genre, basically. but calling it “shit” is a bit excessive, even if this is asking for unpopular opinions (about couples, btw), don’t you think?
Yeah, my bad, I apologise. We all have different tastes after all.
It’s an acquired taste tbf lol - the humor is peak for me. I think the characters are handled pretty well imo. I like the pacing and what not, interesting spins as well. Choreography is pretty good too, I feel like some Webtoons struggle with it. Hero Killer also has good choreography 99% of the time. I can see why someone wouldn’t like it tho, humor is hit or miss. Plus some people don’t like the misunderstanding trope. A lot of the time misunderstanding tropes just aggravate me, but Villian with a crush has an entertaining spin on it and actually does something more meaningful with it.
I wanted to like Villain with a Crush but I just couldn't. I really don't like the FL, she's so dumb and the ML is also just nothing. I think the idea is good but I think having an actual villain who does bad deeds to gain the attention of a hero would be much more interesting than just some dumb girl who doesn't understand she's harming people. Like, idk, have someone who's morally gray who couldn't gain the attention of the hero by doing good deeds, so they act as a villain to get the hero's attention. They either don't do particularly bad things and just do petty crimes or they set up areas to make crimes look worse than they actually are. Or go the full villain route with a yandere who's obsessed. Just please something more interesting than this empty-headed girl
The newer episodes actually have exactly what you're looking for. There's two actually bad villains- a goofy mysterious pyscho and evil scientist lady. Not saying you have to go back, but I wanted to let you know.
LMAO it’s actually hilarious that the WEBTOON DOES have what you’re looking for! I suggest to be more patient with the story bc the ending of season 1 really does have the things you mentioned 💀 I love this WEBTOON so so much and I hope you will be able to enjoy if you give it another chance!!!
I'm sorry, but I really don't want to sit through boring characters just for some actually interesting (what I assume) side-characters. Especially just at the end of it. Maybe once the whole thing finishes and I can read it all together instead of waiting for new episodes
That would probably be a better idea honestly. Waiting for new episodes when you’re not even interested/invested in the story is not ideal at ALL
I would die on this hill but i dont really fw Alphnso x Ariadne
I had to scroll way too far for this comment. I don't trust any of the men in that webtoon!
I don't like the way he expresses his jealousy. He is one step from becoming toxic
I like Who Stole the Empress main male character.
serena and eiser
I read Serena because I wanted to see what’s so controversial about it. People on the sub were complaining about Serena, but what I read makes me terrified of Eiser… Serena’s a hot mess yeah, but the sadist and borderline abusive tendencies of Eiser disgusts me…
Any couple that doesn't make sense to me but makes sense to others
I think this sub is far too negative. That’s my hot take. Otherwise, here a few more:
Lore Olympus is fine. The problematic themes exist but are overblown and really aren’t harming anyone. The art is very pretty, the story serves its purpose, and I would even say the main couple are pretty damn cute.
Mafia Nanny is a good story and deserves a lot of the advertising it gets. I don’t think it should be the ONLY story advertised, I don’t like how WEBTOON only focuses on like 1 or 2 stories at a time to show when there’s hundreds, but Mafia Nanny is still a very fun read. Also, the romance doesn’t ruin the plot. I won’t say it necessarily makes the story better (that remains to be seen) but I don’t think it really makes it any worse either.
I also like the romance between Jiwoo and Jiyoung in Eleceed is fine. Again, I see why people call it problematic, but we don’t have ages for any character to my knowledge. She’s literally stated to only be a few years older than Jiwoo anyways. They are a cute couple, and like before with Lore Olympus, I think the prophetic parts of them together are blown out of proportion.
Please don’t crucify me 😭
You're 100% correct about the sub being negative, If i do a post for example recomeding a comic saying how much i love it, there are like five comments and twenty upvotes, now If i said How much a despise a comic... Bruh, i did a post about how much i hated "Cry or better yet beg" and i got 1400 upvotes
I like Mafia Nanny, I feel like a lot of ppl are judging too fast. I once read that someone dropped it after and I… um… he is a MAFIA??
You know what I forgot the age gap of Hades and Persephone. That one is a little weird. Maybe that part isn’t blown totally out of proportion.
Lore Olympus isn’t as bad as everyone makes it out to be. There are tons of stories on Webtoon that are of equal quality or lesser quality than it.
I think one of the only reasons it is scrutinized and critiqued so much is because it is so popular. It’s not a groundbreaking concept or story but it is also popular for a reason. It is an easy read.
Hestia and Cael from my derelict favorite. its been 80 chapters and they haven't had a proper moment to get to know one another/have a great conversation. i get it the webtoon is from a culture of fangirling/having idol biases so her insane devotion towards him is just whatever. yet its soooo boring he keeps trying to get close to her meanwhile she keeps thinking "oh no i have no right to my bias omg i have to leave" how does Hestia have better banter with the prince😭 who's supposed to be an antagonist ++ also hate how she coddles Cael constantly putting him on a pedestal like girl he has no personality other than being stoic, good at diplomacy(?) and kind
shame because this could've been an opportunity for readers who have second male lead syndrome to explore a sml more than just an empty caricature of a golden retriever guy who exists to be a placeholder for fl
ZERO CHEMISTRY
The Dragon King's Bride. If there's no animosity or uncertainty between the characters at first, I don't really see it as a good couple. I don't like how the ML immediately took a liking to her. I'm not a huge fan of fluff in general.
Omniscient reader's viewpoint is not the masterpiece many claims it to be. In another post when asked what webtoon have you dropped there is a reason it was the highest voted comment.
its just a fun subversive chaos train. there are few webtoons i could ever call masterpieces and i wouldnt put orv on there mostly because when im not reading it its not on my mind and its not changing me either.
Honestly I thought the same when reading the comic. The last 100 chapters of the novel were what made it a masterpiece to me
I believe you. My main complaint as a manhwa only is I don't know what the end game is. The scenario just happen upon them and Kdj is always like "yeah that the scenario where xy happens and that's the constellation who did z so now we have to do this and that ". I don't know it gets tiring when you dont know where it leads.
Agreed it's nice but the problem is it proves it's actually a masterpiece way farther in the story but it is nice in the beginning
The remarried empress. I dont feel like its dragged out and really enjoy Navier’s and Heinrey’s relationship. I have someone to root for and I’m waiting for Rasha’s demise. Sure, it’s not as exciting as it was at the beginning, but it’s still something I enjoy reading.
I do like them, but I do feel Rasha and Shovetshu are just repeating the same actions over and over so that part is boring. I'd be okay if the series ended soon (not abruptly but soon)
Part of the reason Remarried Empress feels dragged out is because the Empress is now remarried. The main plot has ended: she’s gotten out of her shitty relationship and headed off into the sunset.
Same here! I'm enjoying it, and the lead up to the balls of consequence to drop on S and R's heads.
True Beauty is great. Han Seojun is a very boring character.
I personally think the manhwa should have ended wayyyy before. But it def did its job getting ppl like me to actually finish it so props to the author!
As a practicing Hellenic pagan, no, Lore Olympus isn't disrespectful to the religion grow up. Also Hades isn't antisemitic, Hades existed before Judaism and was scary god of the underworld and money before the religion was even a thing. Furthermore his design is bassed on Mads Mikkelson who is not a character but a real living person who just looks that way.
Im not saying I agree with Hades being antisemitic.
But last I checked Mass Mikkelson doesn't have a fucking giant isosceles triangle strapped on his face. Like come on. This is what people are talking about
I never read LO ONLY because of the terrible art.
I read the whole thing Bec I love Persephone Hades reimaginings and Bec I hate not finishing things so I kinda hate read it.
If you're interested in the story on Tumblr there's Lore Rekindled and it's so much nicer looking (and it's consistent which is a huge problem with LO) but it's also got a better (so far) story.
Oof idk that seems... Idk it feels yucky to redraw and "correct" someone's comic.
Do you feel this way about all fanfiction? Because that's what this is.
Depends on the fanfiction honestly, but I think this is a little different. I mean you don't have to agree, it's just a personal yuck for me.
Right but people also aren't made of pure butt with a head like this
It's just the cartoony exadurated style and itsnt targeted to him alone, which if it was I would totally get the criticism but the art is just like that. Anatomy who? We don't know her.
Quick show me the side profile of those two characters. Or any of the other characters. You'll find that Hades has a horrendously long nose (and it's super inconsistent)
Also you don't understand the things people are criticizing when they say that.
It's the fact that he resembles an antisemitic caricature, is the god of wealth, he runs all the banks.
Again, I don't necessarily think that he is an antisemitic caricature, but it's not just the nose.
Hilariously, in this thread, the actual answers are the stuff that are downvoted to oblivion.
Anyway, as I usually say with this, Webtoon should try being more bold in their stories. A lot of stuff can be condensed down to the same thing! There's no gray colors, no nuance, no fun dynamics.