Director Jeremy Podeswa who worked on S1 and will work on S2, confirmed that the show will have 3 seasons
Id prefer 4 seasons but 3 sounds a okay to me
Idk there’s so much fat you can trim in book 3. Plus we already got Will’s storyline, and the staircase project is completed so we can skip the first 100 or so pages of book 3. I’m sure they’ll combine parts of 2 and 3 again for dark forest
my biggest concern is the pacing.
I was ok with the lightning fast pace of season 1 because I knew the showrunners needed to show Netflix huge numbers to get renewed, but now that Netflix is bought in I hope they take a little more time to explain some of the concepts in more detail. not a lot, but definitely more than season 1.
We don't know how much Netflix bought in, it could be that they are satisfied enough to offer enough budget to do 3 but not 4 seasons.
The next 2 seasons definitely need to be longer than season 1
Yea, at their current pace they could easily fit it all in three. What's going to save time is they clearly decided to cut most of the Wallfacer storylines, so we can rush through them. E4 next season will likely be droplet, E5 the Dark Forest reveal, E6-7 is the time jump to the end of the Standoff Era, and E8 will end with 2nd Swordholder failure.
I agree I think think this will be pushed into season 2. Honestly I was a bit surprised the way the second book ended. I was like that's it? Happy ending? Made me think the next book must be pointless. That's not how you want your audience to feel.
Yeah, ending Season 2 with the Swordholder failure makes a lot of sense actually. Great cliffhanger to end it on, leaves Season 3 plenty of time to tell an epic story over the lifetime of the universe.
If they did 4 seasons, they’d probably end season 3 with trisolaris being destroyed. Man that would be awesome
you don’t know d&d if you want their project to stretch out longer for any purpose
3 seasons is good
Honestly saying concluded over 3 seasons kind of reads like there will be 3 more seasons.
3 seasons was always the minimum.
I think vague statement is there because they can(in case of some huge success of S2) eventually decide to do 4.
But Benioff said they want either extended S3 or two shorter seasons. They never planned 4 full seasons.
S2 will have at least 8 episodes as well.
I just finished reading Death's End last night, and I have no idea how you could possibly turn that into a TV series; but it's clear that's what they're planning. Some of the scenes in S1, with the 'paper boats dream' and Project Staircase? They're going for the whole trilogy.
People in this comment section are acting like someone’s opinion is the truth and they need correcting. Like grow up.
That being said, I wonder where the droplet will fall within the season 2-3 arc.
I'd wanna say the penultimate episode of season 2 would b the droplet. But then we also got the battle of darkness to get through. Would be pretty insane to get both in the same episode
I would kind of hope the battle of darkness would get most of an episode to itself, with a good amount of buildup
Yea I really hope it isn't too rushed
Guessing the penultimate episode of S2
Shock and awe destruction; then finale shows the despair, and the Australia arc
All a bit too tight imo, 4 seasons could have given a little more room for the timeline to breathe , but happy to have the show anyway
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Yeah, I'm taking the "concluded over three seasons" to mean that it'll be three from start to finish, but the vague phrasing definitely doesn't clarify it as well as he intended. At least we firmly know that it's not just one more season.
Idk. If he meant "3 more" would he not have included the word "more"?
"Over 3" likely means "over 3", as much as I also would hope for more seasons for a better pace.
It seems such a rush to me. There’s so much to explore
idk how they are going to pull that off .. unless season 2 is going to be huge, like season 1 ending at wallfacers was way to soon for the first book
To me this makes sense. The pacing is going to be fucking awesome IMO. They did what they did to keep the timeline sequential inside of jumping back repeatedly like in the books.
Season 2 ends where Book 2 ended, setting up the middle part of Book 3 with what happens with Wade and what not, maybe even AA is introduced.
Season 3 will be tough, but I think they can hit the major point in Book 3 without rushing too hard. IMO there isn't a terrible amount to cover in the last book. Yes, crazy epic stuff happens, but it does feel like it would have more fat that can be trimmed.
Book 2 does have a great ending and feels like a natural end point for a season. Feels like it needs some sort of stinger at the end to indicate it's not over, someone earlier suggested a scene of which would be perfect.
Book 3 is bloated. I don't think it could sustain two seasons on its own, but 8 episodes feels so short. There's some fat to trim... but not much imo. And there's certain short scenes that would devastate me if they cut (Singer, in particular).
The problem with scenes like Singer's (or the interrogation of the trisolaran pacifist) is that they can be presented in a book while still preserving some mystery and mystique of certain elements, but in a visual medium like a TV show it's a more delicate balance to strike. I'm not sure how they could do Singer without showing too much
One way I think they can do is an adapted scene where singer is training a new “cleaning janitor” employee and explaining the vetting process and decision-making leading to use dvf instead of photons. This way it is more suitable to tv show. In book chapter singer’s analysis is all in his own mind.
But what does Singer look like?
I think they should just do the entire conversation by text, overlaid a white screen that very, very slowly pans out to reveal the dual vector foil, and then zooms out to reveal it traveling through the universe.
The visual design team would have to come up with looks of singer race (maybe not showing faces only their figures/fingers), and also their “language” or communication signals are challenging to show. I really hope to see the singer chapter on screen!
I agree 100%, it would require a subtlety that I'm not sure D&D are capable of. It's just so relevant thematically and to the plot too.
But I can imagine something where you never actually see Singer in full, or he's mostly in shadow, and even if you don't understand completely what's happening, you understand that it's something important. Most of what he does is looking at records, and images of unstable triple star systems or solar systems like ours might look pretty universal.
I would almost rather people not familiar with the books be confused at Singer, and have to puzzle out what it means.
They could do something like that, but I'm not sure it would really work. The essence of Singer is that despite being mysterious to us, he's also
That's not even going into the question of what you make Singer sound like or other things like that. All for a one-and-done character.
I'm just speculating, but I see 2 possible outcomes:
1) They just cut it. They don't see a good way to do it, and they have budget/time restraints that mean some things have to be cut anyway, might as well be this. Many of us would be sad about it, me included, but I'd understand it.
2) They put an equivalent scene within the We've already seen the show take the general ideas of the books while changing the content, with the identity of the main characters, the conversation between Ye Wenjie and Saul/Luo Ji, and even the identity of the Wallfacers. I won't be surprised if the
I'm so curious to see the , and (if it gets adapted) the opening book 3 chapter in . They'll get to flex their fantasy chops again and it'll be a cool change of pace. If they somehow fit a Singer story in there, I wouldn't hate it. Execution is everything.
I still think they can get across the "low level employee" vibe in a traditional adaptation. The scene could end with him having launched the foil, he starts singing some alien song, and it zooms out to show he isn't some "mastermind", he's just one guy in a whole facility of guys just like him all doing the same type of work.
I imagine that one constantinople scene would be EXPENSIVE
They could show us Singer's literal POV, like you only see his "hands" interacting with his console. Then we just hear his disembodied voice singing and talking to himself like 343 Guilty Spark from Halo.
Or almost in complete darkness with a faint red glow as they only see in infra red or something. You just see an outline. There are ways to keep it mysterious.
Singer will not be cut. Benioff already mentioned how excited they are about him on one interview
Really? I must have missed that one. Do you know which one?
I think you nailed the stinger ending. That and some hints at swordholder? Maybe we see the actual Wallfacer wallfacing stare at the wall/Sophons as well as we cut to the stinger? Maybe a quick clip of the Great Battle survivors?
I think they will cover some of book 3 in season 2 to make it doable, as a lot of those stories could be in parallel likely? They will rewrite some stuff with Wade I'm sure so that his major plot point during that generation can happen.
I do hope they make the last episode of season 3 long, like a solid movies length to cover that starts at the start of the Foil and goes to the end of the series.
That stinger would be perfect.
Isn’t AA just Auggie?
Four seasons would be ideal. My real worry after watching season one is that this whole show will fly be so quickly it‘ll feel like a fever dream.
Did you see the pacing of season 1? 1 book in 5 episodes. It’ll be easy for them.
That’s not enough
Season 1 had elements of all three books. So, three seasons might be doable. Season 2 wouldn't necessarily be book 2.
Great news but why the vague announcement then?
I think they just don't know how many episodes yet.
Three would be a bare minimum I think
3’s perfect to me
The books are already fast paced. They could've easily made 5 seasons with some fillers here and there.
They will likely take extreme liberties w the book content even more than they did w season 1 and book 1
Highly possible entire characters and story arcs don’t make it
Netflix isn’t known to make more than 10 episodes for anything as of late
I am actually eagerly awaiting tencents rendition of book 2 and 3 — I hope they can do something like at-least 15 episodes for each
Three seasons too many.
Going to feel super rushed and annoy the book readers. This is one of those IPs you can make 10 seasons out of if you have the right people behind it, like the ones who made LOST (Though it started dragging on towards the end there)
This show doesn't need 10 seasons that's way too many. It doesn't even need 5 or 6. 3 or 4 is a perfect amount. Shows don't need to go on forever.
Bro read what I wrote instead of what you think it is I wrote. I specifically wrote "This is one of those IPs you can make 10 seasons out of", I never said they should make it 10 seasons or that "it needs to be 10 seasons"....The world building or universe building in the books allows for it...People gotta learn how to slow down and read what they're responding to instead of just giving reactionary replies.
Benioff hinted at if it was 3 seasons maybe the third being extended with a few more episodes so it's possible that might happen. It does look like however many episodes they are going to do the entire story.