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Rainbow oreos? I ain’t complaining if they’re shoved down my throat.
I mean, I'd prefer to actually taste them, but otherwise yes.
Better hope its only cookies!😁
The companies only do that to virtue signal, it’s not about showing any kind of solidarity or support, it’s them saying “look how virtuous we are, give us cash.” If the popular/profitable thing was burning a rainbow flag, I’m sure their logos would reflect that instead.
Just take a look at the corporate profiles for middle east, Russia or China during pride month. The profitable thing there is to not include the rainbow in your logos.
I'm aware that the symbol is outlawed in some countries, but some companies push their employees to break other laws as well (OSHA regs, Dieselgate etc.).
Which, in the end, means fuck all. Companies are supportive because the people are supportive, and companies like being on the same side as the people.
It is just virtue signaling, but more importantly, it's indicative of people's actual support.
You have a good point, it may be "just" virtue signaling, but I feel like it plays more of a part than just indicating people's support, it reinforces the ideas within the people and helps others feel safe. It's a lighthearted trend that most companies partake in; we shouldn't dislike them for "virtue signaling" just as the right shouldn't dislike them for "shoving propaganda"
Marketing firms take care to try and support whichever side they think has the higher chance of making profit, not who is morally correct or has the high ground. It is far more likely that LGBTQ+ isn't going away considering it's been floating in the background of humanity since time immemorial. As far back as history has been written and even before that there has been homosexuality or some other LGBTQ+ of some kind. It's just that it now has more public support than ever before.
So, marketing teams see this and realize it doesn't really hurt them to support this movement for the long run. Most of those companies only do a few products. It's doubtful Nabisco will go out of business for Rainbow Oreos when they have so many products that aren't rainbow. As you all said, virtue signaling a little bit just to try and get as many people buying their products as possible. A few hardcore right wingers that make up maybe 8% of the population doesn't matter to them.
And it's no different to how they used to sell their products. When bigots went unchecked and most people were either ignorant of or too afraid to talk about the issue, almost every single advertisement or piece of entertainment virtue signalled to the bigots.
They didn't want to include anyone else and told everybody who wasn't on their side to go make our own media. And when people did; big companies took notice of how much money they could be making catering to our wants. Soooo they did. It's not our fault that they;
It's shallow, low effort, and ultimately does little in the way of actual support. If these companies did something like donate to LGBT supportive organizations that would be a different story, but nearly all of these companies don't do anything like that
I still think it’s better than doing nothing at all, though I see your point, it wouldn’t be hard for these multibillion dollar companies to spare some decent donations.
It wouldn't, but they won't donate because a donation implies long term support and these companies are fair weather friends. See just how fast Target pulled some of their pride stuff after they got pushback for it
As proven by the fact they don't update their logos in certain countries
Yeah. Pink/rainbow Capitalism sucks. These corporations are certainly not 'left'.
The companies only do that to virtue signal
Which the same companies do the month (or several) before Christmas.
Ah yes, big corporations and their leftism
So much for the free market the right pretends to want
It’s always freedom and liberty with them until it’s something they don’t like
Exactly. How about I don't care if you dice your religion down my throat, but how's about you don't violate the constitution when you're doing it.
Every company that does this also does a tweet or post or icon change of whatever for Christmas and Fourth of July and every other whatever thing. They do shit like this for everything.
They only like it when they're on "their side."
Honestly, I think they only like it when it's rainbow stuff so they can whine and cry about how persecuted they are. Then when it is stuff for the things they like, they don't even notice.
An entire party with a mainstream religion, a media empire, and one of the biggest seats in politics. Persecuted.
Homosexuality isn't a religion. It's just the way some people are.
Excessive progressivism, based on the political theory of intersectionality is a bit of a cult though.
It can be cultish because some people see at as scientific fact. For example, youre X colour, ok that means you face x discrimination and are placed here on the ladder of discrimination and have it better/worse that C people. It's an incredibly flawed model that takes little consideration into things like socio economics, family background, mental health, nationality etc
Furthermore this ideology has taken over the entertainment industry, HR and many political parties. Its incessant and looks to dig it's claws into society just like a religion/cult does.
Lastly, and like with any cult/religion, to oppose it is to be a blasphemous heretic.
Wait, there are people who see it as scientific fact? please share
I like how you don't even attempt to debate any of my points and yet you call me a home schooler lol
Your last paragraph didn't challenge my points, you just repeated an assertion.
It's the equivalent of 'the theory of evolution contradicts the word of god' > 'na uh, the bible said it, so it's true'.
Points? 😭
I mean to be fair your social economic status is very heavily dependent on yourself and your own actions above all else. It seems their main point was that there is an assumption based off a variable that you someone had experienced a certain level of discrimination, which isn’t always the case.
Also cult isn’t the right word, but I have seen a lot of echo chambers use talking points from intersectionality to justice their beliefs and refuse to talk to anyone that disagrees with them.
Reread the comment
“Your socio economic position is heavily dependent on yourself and your own actions”
I didn’t say it was the sole reason, but definitely the largest at a certain point in your life, I normally say around late twenties early thirties. Children raised with money squander it all the time, look at the Vanderbilt family for example. Generational wealth typically only lasts 3 generations. Look at the amount of lottery winners that burn through their winnings, or that fact that’s majority of families from old money have portions of the family that is broke. Interestingly enough some of the highest paying jobs, such as doctor, lawyer, and executive positions also take the most amount of work.
Socioeconomic background, mental health, nationality, these things all 100% tie into intersectionality. Sounds like you just saw a big word and without fully understanding it decided you were opposed to it.
Ngl I’m kind of curious on how these factors are included in intersectionality, which studies systems of oppression and discrimination. Sure perceived social class might affect discrimination, but how would your family impact this?
Do you start to suffocate if you don't constantly remind yourself to breathe in and out because Jesus your brain is smooth.
The fact that you just insulted the guy without actually making any arguments tells me you might be projecting your own struggles there a bit buddy
lmao
Why should we ever tolerate your intolerance? What exactly do you stand for besides "going back to the way things were" where people of color and LBTQ+ folk had even worse lives? What so great about the world people like you believe in? I dont want that world.
Im not a cultist just because i refuse to entertain your beliefs. Live your own life as you please and ill do the same. No ones making you watch "woke" media. Im sure theres plenty of shows made for crusty old white folk with terminal nostalgia out there as well. If there isnt, then why dont you just get together and make some? No ones stopping you.
As far as politics goes, republicans made it perfectly clear who they are and what they stand for. They stand for a world that isnt safe for me and a lot of other people, a world where the government gets to criminalize deeply personal things that have no impact on anyone else. It doesnt matter what else you believe in. If you are willing to support them, youve made yourself an enemy of me and others who have so much to lose here. You dont believe in freedom. You made it all or nothing so here we are.
It's an incredibly flawed model that takes little consideration into things like socio economics, family background, mental health, nationality etc
...it literally does take all those things into account. That's the whole point. Intersectionality isn't about some ladder of discrimination, where everyone gets ranked according to their privilege or lack thereof. The whole idea is to get rid of that type of thinking and look at things with nuance and complexity. You may be disadvantaged or oppressed in some ways, and privileged or non-oppressed in others. It's more like a web than a ladder. As a former anti-SJW, intersectionality is exactly the thing I always complained it wasn't.
There are many flaws in your statements. First off "some people see it as a scientific fact" buddy, some people see it as a fact that the earth is flat, are they right? No. Second, lgbtq is more discriminated against than the average person, hell i was 13 when i first had someone scream slurs at me. Do all lgbty get more discrimination? No because there are very accepting towns and people, but do the vast majority get treated far worse than the general populous? Yes. Furthermore, representation isnt "taking over" the entertainment industry has seen that lgbtq is more accepted than ever and increases representation due to a possible increase in sales. Along with wanting to show that they care. Another thing is the lgbtq never wanted to have them be a political issue, we just want to exist, the reason it gets intertwined in politics is the same reason anything else does, people have opinions. With your logic being black is a cult, abortion is a cult, being an immigrant, all religions are a cult, having disabilities is a cult. Like it makes no sense, your point of view is very flawed.
True, there is no middle ground you either agree with it or you are a bigot and phobic.
What exactly do you disagree with? That marginalized communities aren't treated differently? Or something else?
If I say something as simple as I don't believe men who supposedly believe they were born in the wrong body should transition what would you label me as?
I would label you as a dumbass.
You're reaffirming my point we can't have a logical argument of any kind, you don't support my views and I don't support yours, final.
Your version of a logical argument is “well I feel like it’s true so it must be true” and quite frankly I don’t feel like playing along.
It is a diagnosed, well known medical condition called dysphoria, do some research before sharing stupid opinions
Why do you care so much? What's it to you whether they do or not?
Polarisation is bad regardless of political standing. maybe if you think that way it’s time to steer clear of whatever areas of the internet you’re accessing (edit: twitter/X is a no-no)
True but still have a valid point.
sorry, who or what has a valid point?
You
thanks! i think we should all do our best to avoid echo chambers (like the one that told me china was entirely irrevocably evil, when it’s actually a big country and can’t be generalised like that)
Straight people are a cult too then🤷♂️
No gods, no monsters, no religion
Remember kids, the same corporations that partake in pride are the same that invest in anti LGBT practises somewhere on the chain.
My brother in Christ, you are telling me LINKEDIN is "the left"??
Oh boy it’s pride month! I can’t wait to see my favorite military contractor turn their logo to a rainbow!
We demanded rights, not corporate rainbows.
Corporate pandering =/= "the left"
Notice how it's always everyone else's fault except for corporate and evangelicals?
Two experts in gaslighting I'm not surprised.
A lot of LGBTQ+ people don't like rainbow capitalism either
"Que bono?" aka "who profits?"
Have you considered that people might not choose to be leftists, and they might just be born that way?
its because they love capitalism.
Hey, I just like rainbows, okay?
And the rainbow means "Let's include everyone in the world!" not, "You are commanded to have butt sex/scissoring THIS MOMENT".
Bloody hell.
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST, IT IS MARKETING, STOP BLAMING THE LEFT FOR SHIT
Ngl, I wanna have some rainbow Oreos...
I have not seen a parent beat their child until they eat a rainbow oreo. I've seen people wake up their children in the middle of the night and beat them until they kneel to pray. So like, what's their definition of shoving?
Don’t they do the same thing with like the US flag. The rainbow isn’t a religion.
Companies only virtue signal to distract you from union busting and unethical business practices bordering on indentured slavery and abuse.
You hate Rainbow Capitalism because of the Rainbow!
I hate it because of the capitalism!
We are not the same!
i love how they think corporations are actually doing this to support queer ppl and not to get more sales 💀
As Dutch band De Staat puts it:
Woke up this morning To the people roaring Yell to my chauffeur Go and get me closer Cause where the march is That's where the heart is
That is a huge market That’s how we meet our target
Oooh I'm throwing a tomato as far as the cliché goes Oooh Every little movement, could get the business booming All the way to Everybody now
One fist in the air One hand in your pocket Gonna show that we care About peace, love and profit
Wait oh my god link that song pretty please
It’s called Peace, Live and Profit.
This slaps hard asf thanks man
Some think they are smart for realizing this kind of thing is just a marketing strategy but seems to forget that everything else also is.
Yes, very nice. Now, let's see those companies from Early November to late December.
They will be hard left or even communist because they won't be screaming "Merry Christmas" loud enough, due to nuclear test ban treaties.
there are not even rainbow Oreos and the YouTube sign never looked like that wtf.... they literally had to make shit up to get upset about.
I don’t t think I’ve ever seen those Oreos and companies literally swap logos the second pride starts and ends
So many people have zero distinction between the corporate left and leftists💀 Speak to pretty much any queer person online and they'll tell you how annoying rainbow capitalism is and why.
I didn’t vote for a rainbow target logo just as much as I didn’t vote for the Ten Commandments in my kids classroom.
It literally is their daddy capitalisms fault though not ours lmao. Morons.
acceptance of minorities is a religion now? isnt that what their religion preaches? hmm
So why don’t you make your own terrible meme blaming capitalism for some random thing you don’t like?
I’ve not even noticed any rainbows except for the memes about them
Christmas and Easter? XD
Seeing a rainbow is totally the same as indoctrination. I am very intelligent.
Thought that they were fine with free market capitalism? If it doesn't make money, then it'll just go away, right? They get dangerously close to ideas of regulation (their way) and then panic because they had a "socialist" thought.
Is not wrong
I don't think I've ever seen anyone actually asking for corporations to rainbow their logos...
Ah yes, capitalism just began in the early 2000s when this started.
Keep your lady - out of my throat please
Nah but for real, where can I get them rainbow Oreos. Shit looks 🔥🔥🔥
If they blame capitalism then they attack a system that only they benefit from
I vaguely remember that at one point, someone looked at their international accounts like their accounts from the Middle East and stuff and it’s not there. There is no rainbow. Not sure if this was 2015 or later but it happened
People clearly do not understand the difference between “I’m proud to be who I am” and “you must be like me”.
Why don’t we just call a month “white month”? It will make those losers happy, and nothing else will change.
Indeed it is. I have several LGBTQIA+++ Friends. Not a single one of them actually enjoys pride month, seeing it as a combination of corporate shilling and Competitive Virtue signaling. When July comes round, they will go back to pretending we dont exist (yes, we. Im Omnisexual).
Its fucking stupid.
But by your logic, capitalism is doing this because it caters to what the market wants. So, in the end, it kinda is the fault of a political identity leading to this since they have become the predominant public opinion.
No it's the fault of money hungry corporations looking at a marginalised group finally getting rights and only seeing an opportunity to squeeze money out of it
"is.... a choice."
Wow, well said 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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