Post-Match Thread: Brazil 1-1 Colombia | Copa América

xG 0.15.. thats crazy really. In a kinda must-win game as well, or at least want to really go for the win. Nothing.

Ronaldinho’s marketing team was right

I wish the team would try something different, clearly what we have now wont work all the time and its only going to get worse

Different tactics, different players or different formations

Anything that isnt what we are doing right should be considered

i‘m surprised how much brazil are struggling

I feel bad for Endrick. The world wants to see him but Brazil has made these games so difficult for themselves and coach can't afford to give him more than 10 minutes every game.

Martinelli should get some time now that Vini is out but against Uruguay, Endrick will still probably have a pointless cameo. If Brazil manage to be 2 up at 65, they should put him in and let him get some proper experience before the world cup.

I just got home from the game. Some thoughts:

• The game was super fun. Great crowd although the ole'ing was a little silly.
• It was overwhelmingly Colombians. I saw about 25 Colombian shirts for every Brazilian one. When Muñoz scored, the stadium erupted.
• Getting to and from Levi's from SF proper (I live in SF) is a fucking pain in the ass. Especially during the week. They will have to have nonstop shuttle buses from downtown SF during the World Cup because I know for sure a lot of foreign fans are going to underestimate how far it is from SF proper.
• As soon as I got there, I immediately wished I had booked a hotel room down there for the night because all I wanted to do was party with the Colombianos I met at the stadium.
• Colombia looked way hungrier. They definitely played like a team that thinks they can win the tournament.

Tactically awful game from Brazil, and no composure in some players either, they were losing the ball in bad positions or completely rushing it.

That being said, wasn't it a pen on Vini in the last minutes of the 1st half? I was sure that it was going to be called when VAR started checking.

Also, Colombia looks strong, without Diaz being his best (what's wrong with him? just form?). James is a delightful player, he was so good in the set pieces.

Legit hope that for the World Cup we get more games in the East way too many games in the West coast for this Copa America.

Another game another disappointment

Brasil has a mediocre midfield and terrible left/right backs

The coach has to scrap the LB/RB play with three center backs. Overload the midfield. Keep Vini out wide, start fucking Endrick, push Rodrygo out wide behind this you have paqueta at CAM and a double pivot in front of the defense. 3-4-3 or 3-5-2.

We are losing the game in the midfield let’s win it back and then the chances will come.

Hats off to James haven’t seen a single player dominate vs Brasil since Zidane in 06. James played no pass wrong

This is how Brasil should lineup in a 3-5-2 for the next match

GK: Alison

CB: militao

CB: Marquinhos

CB: Bremer

CDM: Bruno G

CDM:

LW/LM: Rodrygo

CAM: Paqueta

RW/RM: Sávio

ST: Evanilson - large tall target in box

ST: Endrick

As a die hard Colombia fan, I'm so happy to see James in this current form. I was sure he didn't have much but he is something else right now.

I've been on the 'drop James, we have better midfielders' train since the Qatar WC qualifiers but my god he's been making look like a dumbass. It's like going back 10 years to write 'ponga a James calvo hijueputa' under every Madrid-related piece of media.

How come Colombia wasn’t at the WC?! Weren’t they this good befor?

Colombia is very well coached. Easily can win it all

We may never lose again

borre is just a cardio and pressing merchant he can't finish to save his life

Colombia may have had "more talented" team in their history but they are playing some of their best football.

They are not making mistakes under pressure when pressed, they actually have a connection to their attackers and can get them involved (still can be better/improved), and they make less defensive mistakes/ are disciplined.

As a frustrated/ fatalistic fan for years I actually am very happy about the style of play they are doing. Had they been able to do this when they had prime Falcao, James, and Cuadrado back in the day, they definitely could have had deeper runs in tournaments.

Also Richard Rios is legit. I remember in 2019 Copa America seeing Luis Diaz (he was still at Junior in that tournament ) and thinking he was special. Same vibe from him.

Munoz too after this game. The future is bright.

This game proves that Brazil would be worth nothing in this Copa América or in the 2026 World Cup if it continues with Dorival, in a game that was no longer worth anything, the man is content with a 1-1 and remains exaggeratedly conservative with your tactical scheme and substitutions.

Couldn’t be a worse response to colombias high pressure. We continued to walk around, play lazy passes, have bad touches, and give their players space. Until we stop thinking we are superior to teams and don’t have to fight for it we’re not winning shit for a while longer

Quit fucking being cute with it in the back, not even that they were just countless bad / soft passes in ourown third. We didn’t learn that a Colombian player would be on your ass the second we touched the ball.

Then when we did have the ball just horrible touches and passes, our strength should be touched and making passes under pressure but we crumbled today under high pressure. Multiple times stole the ball in their third and just gave it right back.

I just hope this is the real wake up call showing some of our major flaws that haven’t fully shown up in other games to get our shit together. But thats prob wishful thinking

I’ll prob get roasted for this, but vini is a one dimensional player and rodrygo just doesn’t have the intensity / heart to take charge and lead an attack (albeit the whole team didn’t today)

Why is Rodrygo still wearing #10

Lucho is not having a good tournament. Need to start getting him more involved to make a true run at this thing. James is the best player in the tournament and I won’t hear a word against this. Our ball control(other than James of course) in midfield concerns me. We give the ball away too much for a team this good. Mojica, sadly, is the best LB we have. And we can’t experiment again like that. Overall, great first half. Sloppy second half. But, controlled the entirety of the game.

Raphinha’s goal was orgasmic. I don’t understand Vinicius. I think he’s talented, but I don’t see the influence Neymar had/has. Brasil has a very talented team. Just no structure(or maybe too much structure?). They’re just not creative or ‘intense’.

I need to sing James’ praises for this game. He won the ball back 4 times! He trys and is sacrificing for us defensively I like that a lot. Rios fantastic and Muñoz makes me feel very comfortable to come against any left winger in the world great game by him and well taken goal. Borre lost his place to Cordoba already but that miss may have him behind Duran now too…simply unacceptable to miss a tap in like that. I thought we were better than Brazil all in all. Good game plan. On to Panama!

The second half had the worst Brazil I've seen in my life, how did they manage to keep the result is beyond me. Completely unable to complete simple passes, completely unable to take possession back. Bad subs.

I don't think Dorival even understand what's going on lol. We have good players, much better than the last decade and a half, so it feels the problem is fixable. A good manager could turn this team into a very strong one, but we don't have a single half decent Brazilian coach.

This and and the match against Uruguay will show that the best players from the Brasileirão such Arias, Arrascaeta and De La Cruz are simply better than some random middlefielder that plays for Worlvehampton or whatever mid or bottom table from a top 5 league. Heck, even Richard Rios looked better than the PL midfielders lmao. Not that this sub will recognize It, but hoppefuly Brazil's coach does.

James is still so good.

The problem isn't the result or facing Uruguay, it's what this game shows about Dorival's team.

Tactically nonexistent: they only know how to play low block and hit long balls. Not pressing high on these small pitches is extremely stupid. Look at how many chances we conceded because it's hard to play out from the back - he simply removes this risk for the opponent because he thinks the defensive tactics of the Brasileirão will work the same at this level (and because he is incapable to adapt to the circumstances). He insists on absurdities like Andreas Pereira as a center-forward and doesn't know how to use the midfield to create, which leads to the defense passing the ball around until they lose it or kick it long (and lose it). His only tactic is to hope that Vini or Raphinha control a long ball and try to dribble past two players to cross to an empty box, since Rodrygo is incapable of entering the box or moving with the instincts of a striker. The game two often ended up with Brazil having two separate lines, one of the attackers (and midfielders mixed in for some reason only Dorival understands) and one of the defenders.

Terrible in player selection: he insists on players like Ederson, Raphinha, and Andreas Pereira who simply don't perform. He brought Evanilson, who has a presence in the box, only to put in a 17-year-old short kid when a goal is needed. It seems he puts players on the field just to say he didn't brought them for nothing, and he takes too long to substitute in fresh players equivalent to starters like Douglas Luiz.

Just... a bad coach, out of his depth. He isn't capable of adapting to the particularities of the competition or of the squad he has.

Fucking hell Borré, I feel like any other of our forwards is so much better than him. Borja would have scored that and I'd still be dancing the colibrí at the bar. 

It was ours to win it. 

Wow, that was physical! I still think Colombia is a favorite!

I couldn't watch but Brazil did all the tricks they were doing against Paraguay? Or is only when they up they start to show off?

This Brazil coach is terrible. He needs to tell at least one of Rodrygo or Vini to just stay by the last defender, and if they can't manage that then at least put in somebody that will. There's a complete lack of goalscoring threat in this team which is crazy considering all the talent.

Also it seems like the midfielders and fullbacks hardly make any vertical runs into the attack. They need at least one fullback willing to make inverted runs while having one midfielder making the run to the far post. Just giving the ball to one of the three attackers and hoping for the best doesn't work.

They fed Vini against Paraguay but he was invisible today. Colombia defended him well but damn Brazil cannot bring the ball up the field

Então o Dorival não acha que o Endrick joga o suficiente pra ser titular mas sempre coloca ele aos 80 pra tentar salvar a gente quando da merda?? Que idiotice mano.

Brazil's real problem is not on their non performing star studded attack. It's really the failure of the midfield to supply to them the proper services they need to be effective. The midfield is truly at best mediocre with plenty of bad decision makings. How many times do we see Vini Jr free on the left but the ball is being passed to a crowded spot elsewhere? The defence also are not really confidence booster either. They keep making way too many mistakes and always seem to easily lose the ball to the opponents. Guess it will take a lot for this young team to finally click and go further beyond Uruguay.

So much to unpack from Brazil…

• Dorival is completely out of his depth. If anyone can diagnose the tactics from tonight, I’m truly interested. Everyone looked lost and uninterested.

• The midfield and fullbacks were dreadful. Slow, indecisive and sloppy on the ball. Not even going to touch on how easily they were shredded by Columbia whenever they wanted to move between the lines. A performance deserving of being knocked out.

• Look at the players on the pitch at the end of an important tournament game for Brazil. Good players no doubt, but the standard has fallen so much over the years.

• Vini and Rodrygo, while not particularly good, had no chance tonight. The midfield couldn’t move the ball quick enough in transition and without any pressing, the attack was set up to fail.

Excited to see how this team fares against a strong Uruguay, but if tonight is any indication, Uruguay will simply be too physical and quick for this Brazil squad.

Expected game, expected result. Some weaknesses exposed for Colombia, but Brazil definitely looked worse.

Colombia should've brought a more defensive left back alongside Mojica and/or Machado. Borja was fantastic in WCQ against Brazil. Machado was dreadful today, and Mojica wasn't much better. Got exposed by Raphinha, and Vinícius to a lesser extent. Definitely a cause for concern, especially for the semis. Vargas and the centre-backs looked good, though. So did Muñoz (aside from the potential pen in the first half).

Ríos taking the starter position from Uribe is probably the best thing that has happened to us as of late; he was brilliant today. Good thing we got Panama for the game we'll have to play without Lerma; Castaño should be able to fill in for him, hopefully.

The attack looked good today, especially James and Córdoba. Looking way better than with Borré (speaking of, that howler at the end of the game was unforgivable). Díaz was uninspiring but had some good moments, and Arias had a more defensive role today.

That Vini guy has no bigger picture in mind. He is not a No. 10 material like Neymar.

The statistical splits of Brazil’s performances before Neymar’s injury and after he was out are interesting.

Colombia dominating Brazil is not something you would expect to see. The Brazil team has severely declined in quality since the golden years.

It's a shame that the ref didn't give that clear pen on Vini, not because we could have scored the second, but because Dorival will use that to avoid talking about how fucking dire we play. We need a goal and this big nosed mfer simply refuses to sub off one of the DMs in favour of a striker. Putting Endrick with 5 minutes to go is simply taking a piss of the fans. Now that Vini is out for the game against Uruguay, you would think that he would go with Rodrygo on the left, Endrick at the middle and Raphinha or Savinho on the right, but he will probably sub in another CDM, I don't know. I think we will lose easily against Uruguay and be out of the Copa this Saturday. Thank you Dorival, thank you Diniz, thank you CBF.

What do Martinelli and Gabriel have to do to get Gametime?

Despite the missed penalty call this game showed a clear lack of midfield, Bruno, Andreas, Douglas, Éderson, João and Paqueta all had a pretty bad game. I have no idea how Dorival can fix this he literally tried everyone and they all sucked

Good match. I believe Brazil will win by a goal in the Semi-Finals rematch.

Praying for a goal to happen only to watch Dorival sub on Douglas Luiz, end me please

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Brazil is lacking a midfield for years, we Lost against Croatia because of this, Just wild that no coach chances the scheme

Richard Rios is a baller

Im not doing this anymore. This brasil team makes me sick. I rather watch Qatar basketball.

These poor performances from Brazil does nothing but increase the legacy of Neymar, he really did carry the Selecao on his back.

We have to stop to call up those midfielders from the Premier League. João Gomes can't pass to save his life, he plays like for the equivalent the XI of local drunkards. It's a shame that he ever wore this shirt

Paqueta, Guimarães, João Gomes, Douglas Luiz. I want to die

This is the worst brasilian team that I’ve ever been unfortunate enough to support

Brazil are a shambles. All you need to do is press them and they literally can’t get the ball past the midfield. Static, no movement—slow and lethargic—their strategy seemed to be passing the ball to the back and praying the ball somehow eventually reached their double teamed—completely isolated—attackers.

Watch Brazilians try to gaslight everyone into thinking the ref was against them while they went and hacked at James' legs the whole match, getting a single yellow from it.

Colombia were the far better team but that FK by Raphina was sexual. Brazil's defense looks pretty good, but their midfield and attack is at a really low point rn. Their keeper is ofc top top tier.

This is the worst Brazil

This is the worst Brazil so far

Good match. Was expecting more the 2nd half but it is what it is. 

Man, that match was amazing you could feel the tension, incredible game of James and Raphinha, Colombia was clearly superior in the second half with so much posession.

You can blame the players all you want but when you have 11 players looking like they are playing together for the first time then the blame has to go to the manager.

International football is genuinely very entertaining when both teams have good teams. The quarter finals in Copa America all seem like good games and so do the ones in the Euros.

Brazil whinging about a corner at 95:15 when it was 90+5 just shows how much they didn’t wanna face Uruguay

Colombia looks dynamic and dangerous. Prone to stupid errors that Argentina or Uruguay can punish. Brazil is…confusingly mediocre