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Wondering what everyone is cooking in regards to new builds with lethal being removed.
Either conquerer with bruiser items (stride breaker, black cleaver, titanic, blade, defensives etc), or hail of blades with a mix of lethality and crit like a shaco or rengar might build.
why HoB instead of electrocute?
electrocute is easier to proc yes, but when you have a mix of lethality and crit hitting those 3 basic attacks bursts the enemy faster than electrocute. Most of your damage comes from your basic attacks so it just has more value imo.
i literally stop playing, somehow removal of LT, cured my 10+ years of addiction.
So far. Noc seems underpowered with conqueror compared to lethal.
You have to not play like a bish with conqu and get in there. With LT it was brain off attack the closest thing.
Tried PTA with my regular build of Stridebreaker first (no hexplate - I don't like it and makes you even more ult dependant and takes away from your dueling power). I used to run futures market - being able to finish your items or come out of base with an extra long sword meant a lot to my early game, but that got removed too.
I didn't like it at all.
I didn't like it so much, whether I won or lost, got S or not, I didn't enjoy it. Actually going to take a break from league and wait for more balance changes.
He feels a lot weaker now too compared to the AP junglers or the crit type junglers like Graves.
Don't think Noc appreciated the dagger nerfs or recurve bow change either.
I've been testing PTA and it seems good tbh. IDK right now I'm in low elo to test things out. I just abuse the early axiom arc to just ult as much as possible to ruin bot lanes day with either electrocute or PTA depending on how many Squishies they got. I'm just having a hard time jumping on the conq train to test that.
I think pta with bork firsf and axiom second might be the play for me.
I've been using first strike. Been liking it alot
Looks like you got buffed kinda ? You can get access to triple tonic + free bots + cosmic insight now, whereas the third line was kinda useless previously.
Iโve always wondered why first strike is less preferred on nocturne than domination keystone on assassin builds. Feels like one of the perfect FS champ, nocturne ult play styles just screams first strike to me
As dango pointed out, there's some draw backs, but I've been liking it. I'd imagine electrocute is a much simpler version of what im doing.
Did you actually say 3rd line was useless when it literally had the most broken rune in the entire game since preseason 8 (Future's Market)???
Also, FS didn't get buffed, it got turned into a poke rune (you get more gold from the initial hit but 50% less from the actual dmg) so it's basically better only for poke laners like Zed/GP etc and worse for everyone else.
First strike doesn't work with noc so idk where you got this from. If you ult you basically lose FS
How so?
Oh, this. I don't really mind this. I get most of the value of first strike from my early game skirmishes. It allows me to play a high pressure early game gank/invade style that you don't normally have access to. While generating gold to help create momentum.
I run it with ghost and play extremely high tempo early games.
I find giga farming then trying to take control in the mid game is too coin floppy.
Uh what. Noc already has access to early game gank invade with ghost by itself. I wouldn't sacrifice your entire game for basically an elixers worth of gold early.
I get free boots too which is another 300 gold, as well as free pots that help me control grubs.
I also use first strike to do low commitment drive by's on laners.
You don't have to agree with me. I'm also not saying it's the best option. But I play so much nocturne and have hit all my ranked goals over the years that I play wats fun and gimmicky for me.
I've seen all I need to see, ๐คฏ not a good build at all
Thank you for your opinion.
I am playing Conquerer with Stride Breaker into Deaths dance and Maw. 4th item would be Cleaver but games usually donโt last that long. DD and Maw give so much survivability while still doing damage.
HoB with crit, needs more cooking tho plus its more of an assassin build rather than bruiser
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Conqueror into Hexplate Stride.