Do I really need anything more than this?

Yes. You need ammunition.

A rifle would probably still be useful beyond what these can do. Hard to say "need" though without knowing what you are using anything for.

Simple answer = yes Complex answer = those are rookie numbers

We all have different needs. I need a rifle for squirrel, a rifle for deer, a short range rifle for deer, a shotgun for self defense, a shotgun for clay targets and squirrel, a muzzleloader for deer, a handgun for personal carry, a revolver for target practice, a few milsurps to take up the blank space on the wall in my mancave, and maybe a potato gun for when the internet goes out and I get bored

How would we know!?

Great set up, in 1950

If you like to have a good time you need some 22s

I’m quite a bit more comfortable with something chambered in 5.56 that’s easier to make follow-up shots with & a pistol that has a lighter 2 stage trigger but you do you

I mean it depends on your use case really.

It's "fine" for basic hunting or concealed carry. Beyond that you'd struggle.

Depends on what you need it for.

Honestly for basic general concealed carry and self defense you’re good to go. If you want to hunt big game or fantasize about playing guerrilla a Glock 19 and an AR would be good. However for a normal person just living their life you’ve got the super basics covered.

I have a shit ton of guns. A few times life has left me really tight on space and I’ve taken some combo very similar to this (I’m a revolver dork so I’ve got options). Never felt it insufficient.

For a normal person living in the continental United States it would be an uphill battle to find a REALISTIC scenario where this combo isn’t totally adequate. At best it would be a straw man example.

Not an optimal envelope but you're covered for a lot of realistic scenarios. You could do better but you're in better shape than most people think.

Water, food, and shelter might be a start

It’s the Bill of Rights, not the bill of needs.

That shotgun is more trouble than it's worth. If you plan to shoot at brids once a year,keep it. It's otherwise; a poor excuse for anything else. This shotgun is s /has; a really long barrel (ideal for hunting waterfaul but VERY CLUMSY for CQB inside a house, the mag tube is EXTRA small, this gun carries the LEAST amount of shells (because it's intended use is "hunting" where there are regs about capacity) added to this is the fact that no "tac light" or sighting system so engaging targets in low light is much harder then the old BS saying says ( "get you a shotgun & ya can't miss!” Joe Biden) With this shotgun, you will be very limited on shells, they won't be the best shells (being 20ga instead of 12) moving with it will be slow & sloppy (due to size) and you have a very limited number of chances to miss (low "hunting capacity") the Revolver, for daily carry is fine (the little wheel gun is probably better for home defense as well (but that's a whole bunch more words)...... The Basics are 1. Compact 12ga shotgun w/ tac light 2. Compact centerfire "rifle".... (May take handgun ammo/mags/ 3. Handgun, backup, compact , self defense, ESC 4. Optional; Service Handgun; Full size handgun (harder to conceal) offer's more fire power at better accuracy (ideal for home defense, range time, or "open carry" when appropriate.

A 12 gauge and a polymer full sized 9mm would be much better choices than what you have here. That snubbie will only be useful within 10 yards, if that (especially the 642 which has possibly the most infamous trigger of any revolver). A Glock 17 or 19 (or other full size of your choice) will be much more effective. I wouldn’t take something like your revolver with me for anything more involved than walking my dog. The 20 gauge is not ideal, 12 is a much more readily available caliber and will take fewer shots to be effective.

If you’re strictly interested in necessity, you should get a 12 gauge shottie, 9mm polymer framed striker-fired pistol, 556 AR, and a 22 rifle. They’re the most common calibers and each have unique strengths. As far as firearms are concerned, there’s nothing significant you can’t do if you have those four.

You need a Magnum Research Desert Eagle chambered in .50 AE
Do they jam a lot? Yes
Do they only hold 7 rounds? Yes
But ya know, it's a vibe.

As a proud Fudd, I say you are good to go. The only suggestion I could make is a Ruger 10/22

Only you can answer that. It's like saying, "I have a pair of snow boots and some flip flops. Am I good?" I dunno, are you a runner? Does it rain a lot where you live?

Need M240B

Given how things are going id want a semi auto rifle and handgun. Shotguns can work but unless you're proficient with them they'll hold you back.

M-60 Fully automatic light machine gun with multiple belts and probably a surplus rocket launcher

I think you would want a rifle, either a bolt-action .308 or an AR-10 if you're going to hunt deer or anything larger.

"Need" is relative.

It depends on your use case and if what you have doesn't meet your particular requirements.

One thing with the shotgun is how well you can operate it under stress or if everyone in the house can. With the revolver maybe you'd want more capacity or find a micro 9 easier to conceal. Those are just random thoughts and may or may not apply to you.

Would be a lot cooler if you did

Thanks for the input, everyone! I really love to see the discussion. I’ve got a background in LE, so I’ve received advanced training in shotgun, handgun, low light, combat, and shooting ballistics. My training and experience has taught me that in my town and in my house, this is beyond deadly for home pro. I’m also extremely confident the S&W will help me get away from a bad situation in public. I’m a civilian now, so I’m not trying to do anything other than evade and protect my family while avoiding over penetration

Pocket sand!

Man got the 70s pulp hard boiled detective loadout

Unless a cartel has a hit out on you, or you have a very special set of skills and a kidnapped daughter, you are good.

Much as I support people owning the full Tier One spec-ops gear set, we shouldn't mistake toys and cool fun stuff with overall preparedness.

Our gran-pappies were probably much better trained and prepared with their trusty ole 10/22 rifles and break-action bird guns than we'll ever be with our tacticool ARs and plate carriers. Our elders spent decades running around in the woods hunting and shooting cheap target ammo. I'm playing shooter video games in my basement most nights cause I can't afford real ammo. :)

So naw, you don't really need anything else in terms of equipment. Just shoot and train with what you have. You'll be much better off in a fight than the person with all the expensive gear who can't hit targets under pressure!

Looks great. You can defend your home, extract yourself from tight situations, or hunt about anything in the continental U.S.A.

People are generally bad at threat modeling. Everyone’s situation is different. In my personal threat modeling this would be barely adequate for concealed carry , home defense and hunting birds. For me personally I have needs beyond that.

I'd throw a rifle in there so you have all purposes covered.

Up close (shotgun)

Intermediate range (pistol)

Long range (rifle)

That's just me though.

Just ammo and training

If you truly would like to be a professional at 3-gun competitions, then I think you would need one more to be able to participate.

A rifle and a .22 rifle

This is perfect for home and personal defense. You don’t need an AR or any other rifle for that.

For home defense... nah this is plenty. But I would add a Ruger 10/22 for fun and cheap plinking to stay sharp, and I'd add a bolt action rifle to reach out beyond your property line just in case.

Depends what you mean by need. For home intruders and edc you're fine. Not ideal for my taste but fine. If you're talking about shtf or anything beyond a single assailant I'd say you are under armed.

A decent mid caliber rifle and a semi auto mag fed pistol. Glock ish tho not necessarily a glock

A precision rifle

Glock/semi auto 9mm and AR or AK fighting rifle

What you NEED is a flashlight on your home defense gun

Is that a j frame revolver? Those things were always super cool to me lol

Yes. An FN FAL for defense against Pepsi Man.

Need? No. You are good with that. The 642 is likely good enough to get you out of most concealed carry situations, although it certainly isn't a gun I would use to run TOWARDS the danger (e.g. trying to proactively stop an active shooter).

The 20 gauge is a solid choice for home defense when loaded with good #1 flight control buckshot (that tends to be better for 20 gauges versus #00 for 12 gauges).

If I were to pick up any other firearm to add to this it would probably be a police trade in full size Glock or Smith & Wesson M&P. It's always good to have a full size Auto loader available. They're also great for classes.

I know you said you had law enforcement experience and had previous training, but I'm of the opinion that even with previous training it's still good to take a class every once in awhile. I've got hundreds of hours of formal firearms instruction and I still make sure to take at least one class a year.

22lr

You can’t go wrong with a 10/22

You need state of the art polymer and a firearm capable of at least 7692 different modifications

Lever Action gun…then you would cover the guns of the Wild West

You should own a musket for self defense.

At this point the basics for anybody should be an AR and a Glock 17/19

They're the most popular for a reason. They just work.

You need a light. You need a sling. You SHOULD get a rifle. And, in an ideal world, you’d also pick ups Magpul buttstock, but that’s really just for comfort

I mean, that's what I have. Slightly different from factors though. A300 Ultima 12ga and a PX4 CC 9mm (not picking Beretta on purpose, they just fit the bill).

I like your guns, but they wouldn't be my primary firearms. However, I do think 20ga is more than enough for home defense.

Pepper spray for the times you need something between a harsh word and a gun.

You need the full cosplay gear too.

If you want to kill an Elephant, you'll need more. If you want to fight off the Feds, you'll need more. If you want to go target shooting for dirt cheap, you'll need more. Needs vary.

That you, Biden?

I can't get his "Buy a shotgun" out of my head.

Yes. Some form of compact 9mm. A revolver isn’t ideal these days

Maybe some ammunition? "Need" just depends on what you're use cases are.

Ammo

ammo and training.

Hopefully, I don't need any! What I want is a different story.

As far as “needs” go, I agree with the majority of people here that you should add a rifle to the mix. Doesn’t have to be an AR, just get something in at least an intermediate caliber that feels good to you.

Looks about like what I have, just trade the revolver for a 9mm and add a 30.06 deer rifle, and an antique shotgun that I wouldn’t feel safe firing. You can shoot deer/hogs with the rifle, bird hunting/home protection with the shotgun, and something to carry with the pistol. If you don’t hunt you’re good with what you have.

I meen I would swap the maverick for a 12g but that's because it's more likely to take down a larger game animal. That said it's easier with a .308, need no but other firearms would be usefull.

A rifle 😊 ... Especially something like a AR-15 or AKM

Mauser 98 and a kerbillion rounds of 8mm surplus

22 LR or .223 bolt action; just for distance sustainment.

you are good to go!

It depends on what you intend on doing. 

Yer gtg

A rifle.

Depends, you should have a solid rifle option if you wanted to be well rounded.

Yes. Everyone needs a Beretta 1301.

Home defense and a CCW. You’re doing good. Maybe a slightly larger auto loading pistol, and an ar15. But honestly if you aren’t target shooting a whole lot then I wouldn’t worry about the ar,

A 1911 might fit in real nice.

For basic home defense, you'll be good, But a rifle would be a welcome addition, especially if you have the possibility of hunting in your area. Something chambered in .308 or .30-06 would get your bases covered.

Take that barrel down to 18” if it’s for home defense

Just a Dillon M134 and you are good.

Agreed 👍 🤝🏻 👍 🤝🏻

Maybe, maybe not. What do you want to do?

You've got a gap from med to long range, should you ever have the need. A decent hunting rifle will only set you back a few hundred.

Depends on if you’re planning to use it for home defense, hunting, or a revolution

You’ll need rope and a shovel too.

lever gun!

Untouchables ahhhhh loadout

Iwi baby eagle 9mm

A rifle is handy for anything past 100 yards, depending on what you are going to use them for. Personally I am an advocate for the 5 gun battery. Just add medium caliber centerfire rifle, rimfire rifle and rimfire pistol. Four is my minimum, dropping the rimfire pistol. YMMV.

how much do revolvers & .22s run usually?

Honestly? A full size revolver, like a S&W K-frame.

The snubbie might be good for concealed carry, but it’s gonna suck shooting it at the range. Least a larger revolver allows you more practice at the range without beating your hands up as badly.

Right now? Yes.

Ammo for both shotshell cards by esstac and tuff speed strips and speed loaders for revolver. Ali g and holster are also needed.

Once you have that rounded up find a shotgun and or revolver class. Begin shooting and training.

You have birds and self-defence covered, you just need a rifle for big game.

Maybe the day after the election.

Need? No. Want? Always.

Need? Probably not. A shotgun can do just about everything within 100 meters. If you want to touch anything further, get a rifle. Outside of that you should be A-Okay

I mean, if you wany to hit something more than 10 feet away

A tube extension for the shotgun, probably a light and a sling. A holster and speed loaders for the revolver and lots of practice.

Technically, no. If you can aim well enough when adrenaline is coursing through your veins after you've had a rude awakening in the middle of the night after you hear your window being broken in, and if you can handle the recoil, then, yes, that should be all you need.

The thing is, when it comes to protecting yourself from danger, or people in your house at night, why would you choose one option if you know you can be better and more efficient with the other option? That's just me though, you might be different. All that matters at the end of the day is that you train with what you have and know how to use it when the need arises.

If the operative word is "need" I'd say no. A little something for distance isn't a terrible idea (rifle). But "need?" I'm going against the tide and saying no.

Depends on what you wanna do with it.

A pistol with a longer barrel. Those .38’s aren’t really known for being able to hit a broad side of a barn if you’re more than 3’ from it.

Unless that’s a carry. But if you’re looking for home defense pistol or SHTF pistol, just like…. Anything that is a compact or above in class.

Some kind of rifle. I'm not saying it has to and AR platform but jt Jr's easiest to get rounds and accessories for it.

N+1

The better question is there anything else you want. Wants are as important as needs.

As long as you know how your body reacts in a life and death situation then you know whether or not it is enough, but if you do not know, then it would be prudent to have more.

Something chambered in .22lr or 9mm for the cheap ammo would be a good choice.

Not really, aside from a bunch of ammo and maybe a Glock

The budget quartet would be complete with a .30 cal bolt action and a .22 rifle of your choosing.

Personally I'd go .308 bolt and lever action .22.

Mmm,a sidesaddle for the pump and four speed-loaders for the .38..(assuming you already have decent defensive ammunition,of course)

Nope

Define need.

If your intent is hunting and/or self defense from equally or less well-equipped assailants within 50 yards at most, sure.

Anything else, you will really want a good rifle and a semi-auto pistol.

Bringing revolvers and hunting shotguns into a firefight is like bringing an English longbow and a pike to the french-indian war in that while they will be better than nothing, you will be in a really bad spot if your assailant brings something better to the table and chances are almost certain they will.

Depends entirely on why you’re armed. For self defense and home defense, no, you dont need more than that. For community defense I don’t think that’s enough. But that’s just me. For what it’s worth Jerry Miceluk said if he was limited to one gun it would be some sort of shotgun. If I only had 2 it’d be an AR and a Glock 19. I I could only choose 1 it would depend on where I lived. Country=AR, city=glock.

Mounted flashlight for the Mossberg.

Brother got that old head set up

For self and home defense? Totally. Anything else, you could likely do with a rifle.

Need an AR. Let’s be honest. It’s the most casualty producing weapon you can own. In responsible hands it’s the best option for serious self preservation. Riots, break ins, multiple assailants… it’s long range, good manual of arms, accurate, light recoil, easy to train, modular to how you like, and it’s not gonna break the bank.

If it’s not available in your area, then you’ve got a decent start

I would at least add 1 rifle and 1 semi auto Handgun preferably 9mm

Yes, considering the threats of civil war in the US and its now being legal for presidents to be politically immune dictators, its time to build arsenals.

U need a holster for the wheeler, a two point sling for the sprayer, a few common sense, and a lot of prayers 🙏 amen

I would add a .22lr rifle. just becuase

Just kidding for my the other post. This setup is good for indoor or close distance like less than 20 feet defense situations, because of limited accuracy and capacity.

How much do you practice with the shotgun?

Need? No.

Want? Yes!

Yes

.22 pistol in case you have an injury that makes you recoil sensitive and/or leaves you with one usuable arm, and to build skills.

Otherwise, no.

For home defense a shotgun is good but I'm not a fan of the J frame revolver. I had a Taurus 651 and wasn't impressed. I'd swap it out for a semi-auto. Which semi-auto to get could be a whole other discussion thread (...cough... get a Glock... cough...)

If your need goes beyond home defense, I'd recommend a semi-auto rifle chambered in 7.62 NATO, like a PTR-91.

I'd at least add an AR in 5.56 if you can tbh.

Bro would of crushed the 1920's

No, you truly don’t. And if you can defy all the odds and keep it at just that you will be so much better off financially than most of us. I really mean me here…

It depends upon what you want to do. For example, it is easier to hit targets at 100 yards with a rifle.

Yeah, you need a Glock 19, an AR-15, a 10/22, and a 6.5 Creedmoor or .308 bolt action.

Yes, you need a rifle.

Bird hunting, deer hunting, self defense

I would advise a .22 LR for small game, if you like that sort of thing, but NEED? Nah!

Don't need anything but ammo. I think a rifle would be fun too, even if it's just a 22

A rifle is a good thing to have depending on where you live. A good bolt/ lever action is a staple in any good gun lineup

For personal/home defense: No additional firearms needed, but I'd suggest a hand held tactical flashlight (I like Streamlight for balanced cost/quality) stored with the revolver when at home and considering a weapon mounted light and red dot sight for the shotgun. Target ID is not optional for defensive gun use. Also, ammo, range time and training. A properly zeroed red dot (doesn't need to be expensive, just reliable, Holosun would do just fine) will let you quickly acquire a target, especially in low light, and you won't need to really adjust for bullet drop or height over bore at normal defensive engagement ranges. If the shotgun barrel is longer than 20", you may want to swap it for a 20" or 18.5" if the shotgun's primary purpose is home defense.

Pump shotguns are mechanically very reliable, but there are plenty of ways for the human operator to bobble the operation, like short stroking the pump. Working on safe and effective gun handling in tight quarters, stocking up on the gun, etc. Same with training on the trigger reset of the revolver. Probably less of a factor for you at this point, but for semi-auto shooters, it's really easy to not let the revolver trigger all the way forward to reset, expecting it to behave like a semi-auto trigger. You get a dead trigger and may still advance the cylinder, skipping a live round.

TLDR: Lights, dot on shotgun, get out and shoot. Consider finding a level 1 IDPA match and shoot revolver class. You'll be at the bottom of the results starting out, but as long as you're safe and nice, no one will mind. Shooting on the clock pumps up the adrenaline and gives you a chance to shoot and move. You get to work on getting your hits and reloading while your heart rate and adrenaline are going. It's often hard to find ranges that allow working from the holster, fire and move, etc. outside of action shooting training and competitions. It's not remotely the same as being on a 2 way firing range, but I hope I never have that experience and don't wish it on anyone else.

It’s certainly not cutting edge, but it’s probably adequate for most people. Think of it like a somewhat aged used car without the modern QoL or safety upgrades.

Where your artillery piece?

A rifle goes a long way…

If you plan to shoot at longer than 150 yards, or more than a few times before changing weapons or reloading, yeah. But I'm not your mom.

For just checking off that you have the basics of defense and maybe hunting... Probably not. This is pretty decent for that, even if it's not necessarily the two weapons I'd choose.

Im assuming you are using these for general purpose defensive uses, id say the only thing missing from this is a rifle, a semi-auto one if at all possible, you can cover alot of bases with a good shotgun, and a good handgun, but there are alot of situations where the firepower and mobility of a semi-auto rifle cannot be understated. If a new weapon purchase is not possible, then id say have a stockpile of a wide bariety of shotgun rounds would be a good idea, everything from birdshot to slugs, and then go train with it, weapons are useless without training, hit the range and kill some paper targets, practice reloads, ect

This is my current strategy.  Boy those Mossbergs are comforting, aren’t they?

You need a semi auto rifle, your other weapons are just to fight your way to your rifle.