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If you're that worried you shouldn't be wearing any fragrances.

Most of my fragrances are 0/100 

Sometimes you gotta sacrifice your health, at least we’ll die smelling good AF.

Yuka ratings are really unbalanced and unfair, rumors said they get paid by companies to get better ratings. I also think that the rating is how bad it would be to consume, and I think that as long as you don’t drink your fragrances your good😂

I would think that if this particular chemical is really so toxic that IFRA would have banned it by now or severely restricted its use.

It is present yes but you have to imagine that it is a component of many sun creams (atleast a while ago) and is itself involved in protection against UV. And realistically speaking the reagent itself is well regulated and permitted worldwide upto a certain percentage.

Do not worry about the composition of different things, there are stringent regulations on reagents. Be a judge of your own skin, since that is the highly variable component; if you use a perfume and see an allergic reaction, just stop using it.

Its a UVB filter used in lots of cosmetics, they're concentrations are really low so no real side effects. "Both the U.S. and European Union consider octinoxate safe in certain concentrations. The maximum concentration in ready-for-use products is 7.5% in the U.S. and 10% in the E.U.

Scientists classify octinoxate as an endocrine disrupting compound (EDC). EDCs affect the endocrine system, which is responsible for making and regulating hormones in the body.

However, despite the fact that small amounts of octinoxate it can penetrate the skin barrier, its ability to do this appears to be limited, based on current evidence."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7648445/

FYI, this is an organic chemical that is found in sunscreen, lip palms and its found in humans, including mothers' milk.

Source: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/octinoxate#products

Yuka is fucking ridiculous. It'll flag anything and everything.

Ethylhexyl methoxycinnamate, also known as octinoxate, is a common ingredient in sunscreens. Its toxicity is a subject of ongoing research and debate.

Arguments for its safety:

• Regulatory Approval: Octinoxate is approved for use in sunscreens in many countries, including the US and EU, at regulated concentrations. This suggests that regulatory bodies consider it safe for use at approved levels.
• Studies: Some studies suggest that octinoxate has low acute toxicity and is not readily absorbed through the skin in significant amounts.

Arguments for its potential toxicity:

• Endocrine Disruption: Some studies raise concerns about octinoxate's potential to disrupt the endocrine system, which regulates hormones.
• Environmental Impact: Octinoxate has been detected in aquatic environments and may have adverse effects on marine life.

Overall Assessment:

While octinoxate is generally considered safe for use in sunscreens at approved levels, concerns about its potential endocrine-disrupting effects and environmental impact remain. More research is needed to fully understand the potential risks associated with octinoxate.

Recommendations:

• Use Sunscreen with Caution: If you are concerned about octinoxate, consider using sunscreens with alternative UV filters like zinc oxide or titanium dioxide.
• Consult a Healthcare Professional: If you have specific concerns about octinoxate or its potential effects on your health, consult a healthcare professional.

Additional resources you may find helpful:

• ECHA Registration Dossier (European Chemicals Agency): https://echa.europa.eu/registration-dossier/-/registered-dossier/15876/7/3/1
• Campaign for Safe Cosmetics: https://www.safecosmetics.org/chemicals/octinoxate/
• EWG Skin Deep®: What is OCTINOXATE: https://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredients/704203-OCTINOXATE/

Just spray on clothes??

that app is junk. anything other than a bottle of water with lavender oil is gonna be 0/100

Isn’t that if you drink it?

Do yourself a favor and uninstall Yuka. 9/10 times it’s wrong

All fragrances are mad low, I also believe this is if able to be consumed, and Yuka kind of sucks at rating things, so you should be perfectly fine spraying a fragrance like that on you and hey at least you pass away smelling good.

These types of sites are garbage.

Octinoxate is an active ingredient in sunscreen. I doubt it's being used in concentrations high enough to cause endocrine disruption if you're spraying it in a vapor over your clothes. There's always the possibility of being allergic to an ingredient, but this is likely being used as a preservative / UV filter for fragile/volatile molecules.

Source: longtime skincare hobbyist who reads ingredients for fun.

🤷

Nonsense

It’s also in the original. As long as it’s within IFRA limits then it’s ok. Just thibk of it like Tylenol, when taken in huge amounts, it can be toxic. Chill!

Most of those Apps/sites aren’t legit.

Anyone who uses yuka suffers from brain rot. At best that app is misinformative

Those apps are extremely hard to trust, with all the tiktok 'drs' calling everything a chemical you should trust the government regulations, that recently got updated, that why many perfumes show as 'new' on Sephora and other sites, bc the formulation was recently changed bc of laws

The Yuka app is just a massive example of the appeal to nature fallacy. Most of what they call "hazardous" ingredients are only a problem in very large concentrations that you will never find in cosmetics or food. They use scientific literature in an unscientific way. If an ingredient is considered toxic in a certain set of conditions in one study but safe in hundreds of other studies, they will still use the one study to flag that ingredient.

If you don't want to use something because the Yuka app says it's bad then that's totally fine and up to you, however a majority of these "bad" ingredients don't actually pose a risk in everyday use.

bro you aren’t drinking the fragrance 😭

Do yourself a favor and delete that garbage app

If the product is so low in concentration of this that it’s allowed in Europe then I consider it safe.
If it’s only allowed in America then I am dubious. lol. I trust y’all’s government more.

Like someone else said it. If you are worried about this things perfumes are not a health product. It’s a luxury good, made for enjoyment. All this chemicals that are in perfumes, cleaning products, personal hygiene, detergents etc are not the best things to have around us, but we can’t completely escape it. I try to use mostly eco products to minimise the exposure. What I will not give up is spraying and smelling perfumes. It gives me too much joy so I take the risk 😁

I really don't care to be really honest

Need more of them chemicals so my colognes last longer 🤣😭

It is not in a high enough concentration to be harmful in this product.

thx, i will drink less from it now

https://www.ewg.org/skindeep/browse/ingredients/704203OCTINOXATE/?category=fragrance+for+women

A lot of fragrances contain allergen ingredients, that's why they're printed on it. If an ingredient gets banned by the EU (where I live) tbh I don't think many Arabians would stop using it, we have local brands still using evernia prunastri (oak moss) as well, as long as it is under the legal limit I see nothing wrong with it

Yuka was first an app about processed food.

Is the ingredient dangerous when you eat/drink it? Is it dangerous above a certain concentration ? Will your skin absorb it or will it stay on surface ? Is it harmful because it is bad for the environnement ? Which studies prove it ? Is it safe for EU? Us? Other parts of the world ? 🙂

It's because of this kind of app that greenwahsing exist and the scam of clean beauty ? Do you prefer preservatives or mold in your products ? 🙂

i wouldn’t fully trust the app, most people and reputable websites have said it’s not the best

The bourbon I drink and the pollution caused by living in a city of 10 million are more harmful. After taking the OP's post into consideration, I've come to the conclusion that IDGAF.🤷🏻‍♂️

To be honest literally EVERYTHING causes cancer today. Everything. All we can do is minimize our exposure but even to that, that won't help much due to how many cancerous things there are in our life out of our control.

Don't put too much weight on apps like Yuka. They're used to fearmonger people into buying way more expensive and profitable organic stuff that is supposedly better for you

Warning: may contain crystal meth

You probably believe 5g is killing you to hu lmao

Did you make a comparaison with a non clone one, to see if there is really a difference ?

can you post the ones that aren’t so bad?

I don't know about this particular ingredient that is mentioned here but I've watched a few videos mentioning that all the perfumes contain parabens which eventually leads to impotency. Idk if I'm wrong or right..just sharing what i saw.

Its fine, atleast we die smelling good, and anyway, the air we breathe is also pretty toxic from car fumes n all that

Its like spraying deodorant... you know its not natural and probably has long term negative health effects. but gonna have to take the L to spell nice while im still alive :(

I am not saying there is any official negative health effects of deodorant but I feel like there probably is.

As we like to say at my work place : "ahhh... It will be alright"

Our air polluted so breathing bad at this point lol you’ll be aight

Low key part of why I'm camp "spray on clothes"

Good, maybe the price will go down. Smells so good.

Happy to smell good in the coffin than smell of rotten flesh

How to search this?

Ohhh no…. Anyway

Not like living is amazing these days and times, I'll smell good and if I die I die 🤷

I wonder about perfume oils?

OP you better stopp using sunscreen then aswell. Octinoxate is a common ingredient used in sunscreens and lipbalms for its UV shielding purposes. The EU regulation deems it safe in low concentrations after a new Review in 2016.

Many chemicals in our daily Life are harmful in high concentrations. I guess as long as you don't drink it, you should be okay.

its fragrances in general niche designers all of them are not good for you. That app is not trustworthy either. I would be dead if some of the ratings they gave were true. You do you though.

If you drink it the. Maybe it’s this dangerous lol keep in mind lucky charms is like 30 or something

9pm has red40 btw, known cancerigen

Lataffa Asad was so disgusting on first smell I immediately sold it

If i die i need to make sure someone give me 30 final sprays when im in that coffin. No sissy spray here.

Me personally i changed all my diet to organic non GMO foods, no teflon cookware, filtered water, no polyestered clorhes, only cotton, linen, wool, cashmere etc

wait until you see what they put in the food we eat in America?

Denatured alcohol isn’t great either

Colognes and perfumes are made up of concoctions of chemicals. As much as a pro health person I am, I'm aware of these chemicals going on my bodies POTENTIAL affects.

A thought is - consider the percent chance these chemicals do actually harm you or your level of exposure to them before you decide for or against them

Idk but Qaeed Al fursan burn the shit out of my skin, how do I check

Meth?

Sprayed on your clothes you’ll be fine

Don't drink it

Ah well, ya win some ya lose some 🤷🏻‍♂️

Slow poison is the best kind of poison 😀

Slow poison is the best kind of poison 😀

Slow poison is the best kind of poison 🐌 😀

Yeah right, we know Asad is not safe to DRINK!

OP just wait till you find out what they put in margarine?

Also maybe stop drinking it.

I'll stick to spraying it on my clothes

Spray on clothes..simple!

I'll make sure not to drink this one

1. Don’t trust Yuka—they cherry pick studies and use very outdated information.
2. Octinoxate is not toxic to your body… again the studies which claim it to be are outdated info.

You need to know Yuka is not the best reference. Sometimes get « dangerous » when is not.

But mostly all perfume are not good, is not just about clones. Even some high niche, mainstream perfume is « bad » for your health.

That's in so many suncream that we use 😅 and do to IFRA, they have to use the amount that they are allowed. Think it's fine.

If you reside in india i can make u a better clone of sauvage at low cost dm me

what do you think we do with the fragrances Drink them?

i’m not planning on drinking it bozo

This why Aventus doesn't smell like aventus these days as they have removed some of the nasties both to skin and those working with the chemicals which clone houses haven't.

Oh please. Think of the stuff they used in the 80s and 90s that has since been banned. Apparently everything is bad for you nowadays and must be regulated/banned. All the policing is doing is killing the performance of new fragrances. What's the point of living forever if you can't have fun.

Damn I just recently got into buying these Arab clones after looking at youtibe videos. So far in just a month I've bought 5 ! Adding up to over $100 lol . With some of them, I've received the most compliments I've ever received from a cologne ! More than the $180 real colognes I've bought . I wonder if this is something to worry about . After all, everything we put on has chemicals, including the expensive ones . Should we worry about these clones ??? 😱

Exactly why i spray on my clothes and not on skin

What site is this?

I got really sick like a month ago and I was wearing lattaffa I wonder if that had something to do with it

Thanks for the heads up

Spray it on clothes

Gatorade literally had a fire retardant in it for an extremely long time, are most of us literally drank that!!! A chemical used in fire extinguishers. And you are worried about a chemical that’s been in sunscreen for what, like 60 years!!?? Come on!

Stop believing these sites and listen to proper cosmetic scientists. Octinoxate has been around for long and is actually a sunscreen filter.

Maybe they use it in perfumes to help reduce the degradation of the perfume from UV light exposure 🤷🏾‍♂️

These sites only exist to create chaos and also make money by collaborating with them silly "clean natural beauty" brands

Yes you are not supposed to drink it, next question

First time hearing this, interesting

Walking past a kid who vapes is a greater health hazard than this bullshit.

Some people would rather die than smell like ass. Thanks for the tip tho.

That's why we have skin...to protect us from toxins. The amount absorbed through skin is negligible. Your skin will be irritated if anything. Fragrances are not meant to be taken internally .

Shoulda bought Montagne lol

Idk why anyone thinks that the FDA is actually there to help anything except major corporations pockets. One of these days y'all will realize that the government is trying to kill us and literally everything is bad for us in one way or another. Why do you think majority of our foods are either banned in other countries or are made with less and better ingridients. Hell I just found out that the little steps on razors that are supposed to help for moisture, messes with hormones. Talk all the shit you want and call me whatever, but if I'm wrong, find 5 things in your home that don't contain something that hurts us in one way or another. I'm almost positive you can't. This includes clothing as well.

I've thought about this recently. The problem is the toxic chemicals are not just in fragrances. They're in everything. Toothpaste, deodorant, mouthwash, soap, shampoo, etc. And just because the government says one chemical is safe doesn't mean it is. They used to have commercials of doctors promoting cigarettes saying it was good for you. If they find that a chemical is toxic and ban it the companies will make a slight change to the chemistry and change the name slightly. Then it'll take several years before that "new" chemical is tested. The best thing you can do is to take care of your body and immune system. Exercise, eat right, and get good sleep. And reduce your sugar intake to as close to zero as possible, because it's been proven that tumors/cancer feed off of sugar.

Deodorants are much harmful than anything else.

Rasasi Hawas is banned in Sweden or something

Risking your life for a clone is crazy

I really appreciate this post because I do consider the toxins that are on my body or clothing when it comes to fragrance… but i also feel like the battle I choose to bitch about is corporate work more than smellin good and eating bad food 😂

9-5’s need to have more WFH days and better pay!

What app do you use to check?

What app is that