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The W11s are no more anyway - IIRC all the chassis became W12s. Still a championship winning car, but not one of the absolute most dominant cars the sport has ever seen
Actually all three of them do. Max still does this to this day, while Jos always said that Max still speak of 'we' and that it's very sweet of him that he says that, but he said it's Max's time now, not his, fwiw.
In some ways, yes, although I’d argue that he is a little more hands-on than Marko because his work with juniors isn’t just confined to a team’s F1 Junior program. For example, he’s managed Ocon since karting. While at Lotus he helped secure a seat for Russell, whom he had no formal ties to at the time, and Russell absolutely made the most of it — laying the groundwork for Lagrue to sign him to his management firm + Mercedes when Russell’s personal funds were running out. He formed a relationship with Albon when he was running the Lotus junior program, and provided him some opportunities at Mercedes privately (ie outside their junior scheme) in the years preceding Albon’s reunion with Red Bull for the toro rosso seat.
I get the feeling either Christian or Jos is drastically overestimating Max’s loyalty because treating each other like this makes no sense when the person they’re fighting over is their meal ticket.
I honestly don't get all this speculation all the time, Max is a full grown adult, why does everyone just assume he will run to wherever his dad points him to.
If he wanted to jump from Red Bull he would have done it already. There is very little politics coming from Max in general so why the constant speculation
If he wanted to jump from Red Bull he would have done it already.
No he wouldn’t, not when there is a free win on the table for him. Next year is less free. If he wanted to leave then 2025 or 2026 is when he would do it, which is what this is seemingly the buildup for.
The "man" and Vermeulen are business wise the driving factor behind the Verstappen and Verstappen.com branding. All they want is a good car and good environment for Max. Horner has been stirring that pot for a while now and I don't know what has happened between those two, but Redbull are going to pull the short string here in the end if he leaves.
That's not the same and you know it.
He might be a shitty father, I don't know. I've read the same stories, but maybe besides those incidents, they're on good terms. He's also the reason Max picked up driving at such an early age.
Just because he might be shit, doesn't mean that he hasn't influenced Max in positive ways. Both things can be true.
Yes but there is also an alternative universe where I'm a 10x WDC. Jos is a creep and doesn't look like a good person to me, but to not give him any credit for what Max has accomplished just because you don't like the guy isn't ok. Bad people will do some good things while remaining bad and vice versa.
Can anyone tell me if Jos was any good back in the day ? I mean if he got a good enough car, could he have been a good driver ? Or was he a Latifi level driver ?
I don’t consider Toto a fool and someone that would purposely put himself in the position where he can be considered a fool. He knows something about Max that we don’t. If he gets a good 2025 car (with this car winning races by the end of the season) and Max wins his 4th with RB, I can see him gone. The announcement will only come after Max secures his title, not a day before, regardless of that is happening.
I don't get why anyone gives Jos the time a day at F1. I'm pretty sure that he's not had any sway on Verstappen's career decisions since 2017. He's not a legend, he doesn't do anything constructive, he has no influence on Max, why do people high up in the paddock indulge him so much
Sometimes I think Max asks his father to say things he can't say himself as a way to put pressure on Red Bull.
Also wouldn't be surprised if the Verstappens are trying to get Mercedes to sign a 1 year deal with a driver, so they have the option to jump to Mercedes for '26.
Half the drivers on the grid are there because of their parents connections but you don't see them constantly being given this much attention just because of their son. Jos should stay out of the way and people at the paddock should stop indulging that abusive wifebeater.
I think it's very wise for the Verstappens to have a conversation with other top teams prior to 2026 as there will most likely be another shake up in the pecking order. Especially Mercedes as McLaren doesn't seem an option (going by ZB's remarks). I'm pretty sure Verstappen sr. is still the nr 1. confidant for Verstappen jr. So you better give Jos the time if you are pursueing the best driver on the grid.
Because he often throws his weight around as if he speaks for Max and creates drama because of it. Look at the whole Horner and Marko power struggle and tell me that Jos wasn't making the entire situation worse because of his overly inflated ego.
That’s one example, hardly “often” or “incessantly” and he was making a comment about how he thought it was in appropriate that someone in charge should be sending those kind of messages. Kind of fair enough? Unless I’m forgetting a whole list of other things he’s thrown him self into.
Nothing in that article insinuates that at all? “I saw Angela put something in his hands and Hamilton getting into the cockpit” is supposed to be Jos accusing him of taking drugs before races? Total madness.
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