Well done idiot. If, god forbid, you ever get raped, the rapist's defense team will throw this back in your face at court.
You realize consent can be withdrawn, right? This would not win a case for a rapist. She could even say in person to the rapist, "oh yeah, daddy, give it to me. You can't rape me." Then 10 seconds later shenrepeatedly says "no, stop," then she withdrew consent.
No woman is "asking for it." There is no eternal consent that can't be withdrawn. This woman can make all the dumb, bullshitty, engagement-bating tweets she wants, and none of them will supercede the word "no."
What I'm saying is that this would be used in a trial to challenge the accusation of rape on the part of this woman. "How can she claim she was raped when she claims here that 'rape' isn't really a thing?"
I'm not saying I agree with it, because I don't, I'm just saying it's a foolish opinion to share online since, if that day ever were to come, it will be thrown back in your face with potential real consequences.
The hypothetical rapist would still be guilty of rape regardless of what this tweet says, but there are cases where the defense can really hurt the credibility of the accuser to the point where a not-guilty verdict can be found on the part of the jury. It gives weight to a defense of false-accusation.
This wouldn't be allowed into evidence to establish whether she gave consent. It's hearsay. It's also irrelevant to whethet she gave consent at the time of the incident and highly prejudicial. The only way it would get in would be under one of the hearsay exceptions, and along with it would be instruction to not use it as evidence of consent.
The most likely way it would get in, I'm thinking, would be if under cross-examination she said something like, "I have always been an advocate for rape victims and would never victim-blame them." Then her tweet could be entered to attack her credibility. Jury would be instructed to consider it only for that purpose. That said, you can't "unring the bell," so to speak. zin reality, jurors don't just ignore evidence for one purpose andnuse it for the other. So, there would be a lot of practice before the trial to make sure she doesn't slip up and say something that would allow this into evidence.
It's not evidence for consent necessarily, it could be evidence for a false accusation. That's different than claiming consent.
How is that different?
Would the false accusation that she identified the wrong person who sexually assaulted her? It's certainly not relevant to that. It would be "she's dalsely accusing me because it wasn't actually rape; there was . . cconsent.
It comes down to the same issue: whether there wqs consent at the time. Whether you word that as "false accusation" or "she's a doodoohead liar" doesn't matter. It still isn't getting in to establish consent because it's hearsay. Unless there's a door open for one of the hesrsay exceptions, I don't believe it would get into evidence.
No, Your Honor, I could not have murdered the victim. Look at this tweet that the victim made, clearly they don’t believe that murder is real, hence, I could not have murdered them!
This is different. Murder cases are not based on consent.
Rape is about consent and lack of it. The victim stating that she can’t be raped, that she wants to be abused and if she says she is raped then she is lying….well that’s Christmas Day for any defence barrister.
excuse me sir, but i haven't consented to being fucking stabbed to death yet
Yes. Yes, I have sir.
That is the biggest load of bullshit ever lol. Saying that you don’t believe in a crime doesn’t mean that you cannnot later claim to be a victim of that. No judge would throw this case out soley because of a shitty twitter comment.
I didn’t say you can’t claim to be a victim, nor did I mention any judge throwing the case out. I said a defence barrister would be able to use this and it would massively hurt her credibility.
It wouldn’t even be brought up in court lol. No one would allow it to be used as evidence.
That’s what I was thinking. Denial that a crime exists on social media would be irrelevant to the case itself. Would not be allowed.
Op still had an asshole take though
I think the evidence would go to whether she consents to sex. This could be interpreted as consent to intercourse with any adult male on the planetat any time. It's probably not a good argument that would win, but it's certainly an argument.
See, the thing about consent is that it can be withdrawn. So let's say a guy comes onto her and starts initiating a sexual interaction." Then she says, "no, stop, stop." Even if the post could be construed as consent (a bit of a stretch), the words "no" and "stop" are her withdrawing consent.
Why did they downvote you but upvote me for agreeing with you?
Reddit is wild
Courts automatically take murder seriously. It's almost impossible to get them to take rape seriously.
A fucking judge threw out a rape case because the woman wore red underwear the day it happened.
This post will 100% get a rape thrown out.
Exactly. Some of these people out here forget rape doesn’t get any respect in the Justice system. Look at Brock Allen Turner. He got off with witnesses to his crime.
It's sickening.
And some moron called me a monster because I said it would get a case thrown out. I'm not the one making the decision.
If it were up to me, they'd get what they deserve.
Consent is withdrawable. It didn't have to be in an engsgement-bait tweet like this. Someome can agree to sex one moment and withdraw consent the next. If the other person continues after consent is withdrawn, it's rape.
What the hell kind of monster thinks a tweet gives people the right to rape. Are you fucking kidding me?
Hey dumbass, I'm not saying it's right. Just that they will use any shitty excuse to not believe women.
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Cool. I'll tell my friend who was gang raped at gun point that she asked for it. It's not like people haven't already accused her of that.
What the absolute fuck is wrong with this person?
It’s one thing for a person to feel that way, but projecting it onto everyone as a “truth” is amazingly stupid and awful.
r/asablackman, I don't think "Eleanor" is the person they're pretending to be.
Eleanor is not a woman, and more likely an incel..
From what I've heard, this is a real woman. Some kind of infamous life coach.
Beginning this with “Guys, let’s say it straight…” seems to hint it’s a guy.
Maybe someone stole her likeness then
Women also call people “guys” in general. it’s hardly a gender thing anymore. But hey why not be a reddit detective. I’m sure it fills some void in your life :)
Not sure why this is being downvoted so much but I definitely agree. A lot of people, men and women, use the term “guys” to casually refer to a group of people.
I don’t think Eleanor’s use of the word indicates anything one way or the other. But she is a complete idiot so there’s that.
Totally. When I'm specifically refering to a group of men, I will usually say "guys". It doesn't imply it's a man. Though I might feel less 🤮 if it were a man.
Uh-huh.
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Not a woman because it's not a person
if you are pro rape you lose your personhood
Yup. Just like how nazis aren't considered human for the crimes they did against humanity.
Nah they were human, they consciously made a choice to not be people
Looking at her profile, seems more like she's trying to cash in on incel-types for views. Just some textbook Panderin' grifter.
Is was gonna say the same…but different.
At the very least is sounds like Eleanor has a dick…
There are women with that attidude although i dont grasp how you can think like that. It becomes a Problem when they raise boys themselves.
Wow. Incels are really getting good at spambot shitposting. 4th one today in my feed.
Now I know what the bottom half of intelligence scores look like.
Gross. Just fucking gross.
No, of course we don’t need content moderation on X, it’s perfectly fi… :8484:
moderation is a propaganda word for censorship. you can either allow free speech according to the law or you can do censorship. there is no in between.
Free speech under the law is simply the absence of government control.
Companies are free to control or moderate as they wish.
yes they can censor as they wish. yet that makes it censorship because it is against free speech.
moderate = censorship
id rather live in a society with free speech than censorship
Even the government sensors harmful speech.
There need to be lines. They need to be tighter lines for private companies than for the goverment.
I'm not saying this specific thing needs to be censored, but some things do.
sure you can have that opinion. my point was rather that "moderation" is nothing but censorship and not free speech. some ppl just cant seem to admit that. if ppl want censorship fine. it will come to bite them in the ass sooner or later.
furthermore starting to censor on these platforms is the beginning of the end of free speech. it will go further and further. it starts with one thing and soon you cant say anything critical anymore because it hurts ppls feelings. with censorship these platforms become nothing but political ideology machines that represent only 1 opinion. i wonder why ppl dont want to see that. but so bet it. musk said clearly they reason why he bought twitter is to save free speech in america and i can see what he means.
So you'd be happy with someone doxing you on the internet? Would be included in your kind of free speech.
musk said clearly they reason why he bought Twitter is to save free speech
By banning whatever or whomever he doesnt agree with? Doesn't sound very free speech to me.
This was already posted three hours ago, we seriously NEED TO STOP PROMOTING HER BULLSHIT
at this point I believe these Reddit accounts are genuinely just bots sent out to get these people attention
And if we’d stop sharing all the hateful shit people say and just share general dumbassery, it would be great.
This is a dude masquerading as a chick on Twitter
but he has a blue checkmark, how could that be?
Can we get someone to check on Eleanor? She doesn't seem ok.
epitome of a pick-me girl
You idiots going out there searching for this lame shite, and then reposting on Reddit getting these dumb ass views out there even more, are part of the issue of morons like this having their voices heard.
Is she on drugs?
Or did she fry her brain on drugs?
Is anyone on Twitter not an incel or a RWNJ?
Sounds like someone who's only touched the woman on his body pillow
Russian bot say what
what the fucking bottom ass with no self fucks given did i just read?!
Too bad she can’t speak to the women who have been murdered after being raped. Or the ones who have traumatized. I don’t think it was a wet dream on they’re part
This better be a joke, and even if it is, it’s a terrible one.
This is written by an incel.
What is wrong with these people ? Is it just an act for the shock factor ? These types of statements can’t possibly be real can they ? I’ve seen a few of these completely whacko posts lately but I’m having a hard time believing they are real
I think they mistook the word "feminine" for "violated"
What trying to get them clicks does to a MF.
Eleanor sounds like a MAGAMoron.
Secretly, I think "Eleanor"s wet dream is to be popped in the face. More than happy to provide
just send him to jail for a month or two to learn what rape means. this alpha insanity has to stop now.
It's clearly a bot from a troll farm, no one is that stupid.
Just say SHATTAFACKAA
There are accounts on the internet, being used just for such stupid manipulations.
The problem with this is the kind of person to dominate and rape someone is not the person you’d want executing that “wet dream.”
Jesus Christ, this is the third or fourth separate post I’ve seen of this in the last 24 hours!! Stop posting hateful shit.
I know! I'm sick of seeing this stupid, misinforming, trolling shit! Nobody in their right mind actually believes this, and if they do they're completely insane, and we know it's just Clickbait at this point
Likely porn
What too much porn does to the mind 😞
I think thats juat a shitpost
Oh yes. And I yearn to get mugged to feel wealthy. See how I dress? I’m just asking to be mugged.
I'm done. I'd rather be a worm drying out on the sidewalk than a part of this species! 🤣🤷♂️🤦♂️
Why argue? This can be proven really easily.
This is quite obviously rage bait. The amount of people taking it like fish is astounding.
Guys don’t get rapped either. Drop your pants and bend over. Because some guys dream about it, logic dictates that all guys must want it. No?
I'm going to assume Eleanor is a 24 year old balding man baby who lives in the basement...
So someone can do that to her and it will be ok?
Guaranteed this person is a man posing under a woman’s sock puppet account.
This isn’t real.
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