What's the legality of this? Scotland (Glenfinnan)

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I'm at the Glenfinnan Viaduct, the big famous bridge that's used in Harry Potter, so this is a popular tourist attraction. Even though the sign looks official, I don't see how this is enforced (legally) , especially with the shot gun shells insinuating that your drone will be shot down. I imagine the shells are just to further dissuade people doing it anyway. On Noflydrones.co.uk, there aren't any active restrictions. It looks like there are a couple of personal properties close to the bridge that I circled red and the yellow circle is where the drone on the post is from the first photo. Could this just be a sign put up by grumpy locals who are sick of having drones fly about?

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OgdruJahad

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Look how they massacred my $20 Walmart boy!

TheRedIguana

19d

That's some Game of Thrones shit right there.

Supmah2007

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Game of Drones

CarpetRacer

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This ain't EVE online

Supmah2007

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This is where it all began…

mcmasterstb

18d

Oh, a Ishtar spinner in the wild 😜

overdrive148

Part 107 / Private Pilot / TRUST

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Found the Gallente

Yellowlab714

120

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Just fly above shotgun range, you should be fine.

Gr33nJ0k3r13

18d

This is a good tip if people in ukraine can‘t shoot droens activly coming at them i doubt someone with a shotgun somewhere in a field can

DagdaMohr

18d

Eh.

Different situation starting with the poor bastards we see in the videos are almost always caught unawares and out of position.

But anyone with experience shooting trap or skeet would do fine.

RoughDraftRs

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The other thing to consider is that troops in Ukraine are using rifles, IF they use shotguns they're probably loaded with slugs or buckshot. They also have shorter tactical barrels.

I doubt there are very many shotguns being used in Ukraine that are setup for trap and skeet. With a 24" smooth barrel full choke and target load, you bet your ass I can shoot your drone down.

DagdaMohr

18d

Bingo.

Most of the cases where we see shotguns used in theater they’re weapons of last resort with a 5” quad strapped to an RPG around barreling at someone doing 25mph.

Totally different situation and equipment set.

Our friend has no idea what he’s talking about.

Gr33nJ0k3r13

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Oh god fucking no 1. off yes caught unaware those are the bonbing drones they can get up so high you can not see them with your eyes even less bring a fucking ak iron sight onto it in most grenadw drop vids the human is stretched out as long as the grenade you can do the trig to figure range then siper impose the iron sight above it and then add the fact you are talking about a 2 moa gun with a shooter who is at best capable of 2 moa against a lit sky….. so in the beginning they may not have been expecting it rn they are there simply isn‘t shit you can do about it. So i thought about going into trap and sceet but since the other guy mentioned shotguns as well you gonna have to read it there but long story short if you don‘t want to mag dump from a fixed position you aint shooting a drone out of the sky like that not because the gun can‘t hit but because you can‘t

IAmMagumin

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Bro... slow down and proofread. I wanted to read this, but I got a migraine.

J0nN0tJ0hn

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Dude was really excited to post this

Gr33nJ0k3r13

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I‘m sorry english is not my first language and i‘m diyslexic as fuck i made out 3 typos the rest i don‘t see Anyways shotguns: so for arrial hunting like this moat hunter would choose bird shot bird shot is somewhere from 10 to 50 small let pellets which most times aren‘t as perfectly round as an air rifle bb would. So right out of the gate as you pull the trigger you are spreading your force above 20 projectiles which are verry light, they simply can not carry the energy i did some reading a few mins ago and as to what i could make out on forums 100 meters is the limit for ethical hunting. I got like 4 more arguments lined up but i think this will do it if you don‘t have any more questions. All in all no one is gonna stand in a field in the uk and start opening up a box of ammo on ur drones and even if they did pulling up and away will solve the problem 🖖 have fun don‘t be scared drones are the most superior shit we came up in the last 10 years

IAmMagumin

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I‘m sorry. English is not my first language and I'm dyslexic as fuck. I made out 3 typos. The rest I don‘t see.

Anyways, shotguns: so for aerial hunting like this moat hunter, I would choose bird shot. Bird shot is somewhere from 10 to 50 small let pellets, which at most times aren‘t as perfectly round as an air rifle bb would be.

So right out of the gate, as you pull the trigger, you are spreading your force between 20 projectiles, which are very light. They simply can not carry the energy. I did some reading a few mins ago, and as to what i could make out on forums, 100 meters is the limit for ethical hunting.

I've got like 4 more arguments lined up, but I think this will do it if you don‘t have any more questions.

All in all, no one is gonna stand in a field in the uk and start opening up a box of ammo on ur drones. Even if they did, pulling up and away will solve the problem. Have fun, don‘t be scared. Drones are the most superior shit we've come up with in the last 10 years.

Ahhhh... isn't that better? I can actually read that.

No, I don't have any more questions because I didn't have any to begin with. I don't care about your assessment on the feasibility of shooting down drones with shotguns based on the forums you read a few minutes ago. Thanks for reassuring me, though.

I'd still suggest slowing down. Your eagerness to share your thoughts really makes the prose feel hyper and annoying.

Ho-ho... this has been the most pretentious, Redditor shit I've ever contributed. Sorry. Bad morning, I guess.

Gr33nJ0k3r13

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Nah mate i just hold my experience and oppinion against what other people who do this professionaly say and your sentence was „anyone experienced with trap or skeet should have no issue“ which is exactly what these people would have told you, i just went a lil further and explained the basic physics in order to anticipate any follow up argument shooting a drone with a shotgun just like that is just bullshit (again look at ukraine) have a nice day as well 😉

IAmMagumin

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You're confused, unsurprisingly. I haven't made any arguments on the subject of this post. My first comment was the one about slowing down and having a migraine. I hope that clears things up.

Gr33nJ0k3r13

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Ah i see i didn‘t really pay attention to the names Well guess thats even worse 😂

Super_Marioo

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I really was interested in what he wanted to say, but after 3 attempts, I got lost in the sea of words. Please punctuate!

Gr33nJ0k3r13

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Hey there are about 5 points in the text if you want them distributed diffrently do it yaself 😂 Well watch any video about shotguns then, this is really base lvl knowledge you can get at every corner

FluidDreamer

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Considering the speed (fpv), it s much easier to shoot them as they arrive in 10-20 meters range with a shotgun than with any other hand gun

Svipoman

18d

Or "FASR" 🤣

CoarseRainbow

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If it's private property (which that area is - all around the viaduct is privately owned) they're quite entitled to ban operation of, take off and landing of drones on their property. Your entire photo with the circles is a privately owned estate.

There are plenty of public areas there that aren't NT etc owned there though. Fly from there over the scene (whilst maintaining vlos etc)

I_Main_TwistedFate

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I know this ain’t in the US but I heard in the US that technically the person who owns the private land doesn’t own the sky above the private property if you know what I mean lol

wskyindjar

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That’s what they said essentially. Can fly over but can’t take off or land on the private property.

Cuffuf

18d

Yeah you can get sent to prison for shooting down a drone.

acidbrn391

18d

You can get up to 20 years in prison for shooting down a drone. They are technically aircraft and are protected by the FAA. Plus the fact you are firing projectiles out into the sky and those projectiles will come down and could cause potential damage to people or property that’s not involved in the flight of the craft. If your bullet comes down and kills a person in the area then there’s a murder charge on top of it and could result in life in prison for being a jerk.

coolborder

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I get what you're saying but I would assume that anyone trying to shoot down a drone would use a shotgun. In which case the bbs lose velocity crazy fast. After about 300 yds they don't have enough kinetic energy to kill you even if they hit you in the eye or temple.

Assuming the person is shooting mostly up towards the sky the odds of killing someone are essentially zero.

You could definitely still injure or blind someone and I'm not trying to downplay that. But killing someone is unlikely unless the person shooting is using some sort of rifle or slugs like an absolute moron.

dronegeeks1

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Stand at 300 yards and il shoot a shotgun at you we will test this theory 🤣

coolborder

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I've been hit at 300 yards by stray bbs while pheasant hunting. It stings and leaves a small red bump but that's it. My wife's uncle was hit in the eye by one at roughly that range and after the swelling went down his vision went back to normal. Shotguns with bird shot are meant to be used at less than 50 yards to be effective.

Col_Clucks

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You clearly have no experience with birdshot out of a shotgun. In dove season as kids me and my friend would stand on opposite ends of a grape vineyard and rain bbs down on each other. It doesn’t even leave bruises at that range because it’s lost so much energy.

Moonrak3r

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300 yards is a long way away… based solely on my experience with video game shotguns I’d be reasonably comfortable testing that theory.

Edit: lol at the downvotes. Some people must not have a sense of humor.

Esava

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Real pellet shotguns are not like video game shotguns.
They have significant force even at long ranges. You can give it a quick watch on youtube, there are a bunch of people "disproving" the concept of pellet shotguns only useful at short ranges.

Moonrak3r

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But 300 yards?

Esava

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Yeah that's too far except maybe with some very special ammo.

Continue thread...

Alternative_Essay43

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Making assumptions about firearms is a piss poor starting point. Try again.

coolborder

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I made no assumptions about firearms. I made assumptions about the person trying to shoot down the drone and what tool they would choose for the job. I also mentioned that if they use anything other than a shotgun that they'd be a moron.

Try again.

Alternative_Essay43

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"I made no assumptions about firearms."

Semantics for the win huh Reddit warrior? As for the comment on anyone using anything other than a shotgun....truly idiotic. People use what they have access to.

coolborder

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Maybe if you had any reading comprehension at all you'd realize that my only point is that if you are shooting in an upward direction with a shotgun, using bird shot, it is almost impossible to kill someone on the ground with.

motophiliac

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Important to bear in mind that a bullet's terminal velocity is a small fraction of its muzzle velocity.

Still potentially lethal, though, and a ridiculously stupid thing to do.

MustardCentaur

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Not illegal to fire projectiles into the air at waterfowl though

acidbrn391

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Typically your using a shotgun to hunt waterfowl and your typically in a fairly uninhabited area when doing so. The chances of impacting another person is pretty slim unless you hit another hunter, but that would be a Dick move.

MustardCentaur

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So what's the difference between that and firing a shotgun at a drone on your farmland?

acidbrn391

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Farmland is still not rural enough. Either way you still can’t shoot down a drone in US airspace.

MustardCentaur

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lol @ farmland not being rural enough. Anyway, this is Scotland.

acidbrn391

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Not sure about the airspace rules in Scotland, my family left Scotland over 100 years ago. The farmland here in the US is congested and ppl still live close together.

Continue thread...

doslothsgotoheaven

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If falling bullets could kill people there'd be many many random deaths every forth of July.

Plus-Heart-8552

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Falling bullets have killed people though.

https://www.kptv.com/2023/07/27/parents-toddler-struck-by-falling-bullet-independence-seek-justice/?outputType=amp

doslothsgotoheaven

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A bullet striking a leg doesn't sound like it fell vertically. You can literally Google the terminal velocity of different calibers and grains, most under 300fps.

Plus-Heart-8552

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Doesn’t sound like? Not going to argue about semantics I am simply stating that people have been killed and injured from bullets fired into the air in a celebratory fashion, yeah I suppose you’re correct it’s probably not falling vertically more in a parabolic / arching motion. While it does depend on the round, the rate of which it is falling still considerably enough to be lethal or render great bodily harm.

https://www.youtube.com/live/7t0qwrAt8SY?si=sJStVBxgYGn_D8Bq

doslothsgotoheaven

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I hope youre not around when a bird drops an acorn, GG.

Plus-Heart-8552

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You obviously don’t under how anything we just spoke about works.

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JustH3LL

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My home area had a whole ordeal about stopping that sort of shit years ago for that exact reason. It’s a ND at best, a murder at worst. Why take the chance?

BrokenHeartBear

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I live in NC and just before New Years Eve, they have to air PSAs on the news telling people to practice gun safely during the holiday because people have been injured or killed from firing up into the air. At least shoot a proper and legal target that doesn't harm anyone. If you believe in gun rights, you should practice gun safety, and this is coming from a responsible gun owner.

CoarseRainbow

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That is the same in the UK. But just like US national parks, the difficulty is finding somewhere to operate from outside that land whilst complying with the laws on vlos etc over the subject. It's not always possible to find a legal spot within 500m or so.

jwad86

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Scotland is slightly different to the rest of the UK because we have the right to roam.

It is generally accepted that the use of drones for leisure (i.e. non-commercial) purposes fall within the scope of “recreational purposes” in terms of the Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 and are subject to the Scottish Outdoor Access Code. In that respect, landowners have very little power to prevent drone flying in Scotland.

Small aircraft, drones fall within the scope of the Civil Aviation Act 1982, section 76(1) of which provides that no action of trespass or nuisance may arise solely out of the flight of an aircraft over property (whether for commercial or leisure purposes).

So while it is nicer and easier to ask for permission (I understand they charge £10 at Glenfinnan, which doesnt seem unreasonable) there is little that landowners can legally do to stop you.

The exception to this is where they have managed to get a change to the bylaws to prevent it, as is the case with National Trust Scotland property.

CoarseRainbow

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Lots around that area is NT.

Although the NT byelaws are from 1965, very vague and basically amounts to a tiny one off fine so almost worth doing for a laugh.

There is also an issue with "flight of an aircraft" is overflight and does NOT include operation of, take off and landing from as thats not the aircraft itself.

BrokenHeartBear

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If you come back to the U.S., try to seek rural towns. You can fly in most "uncontrolled air space" and if you're not sure, check to see if that state has a drone group that could help you navigate the complex regulations with drones in the US. My neighbors are horses, chickens, and cows, so I mostly have free reign of the sky.

Real-Respect-541

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This is true. Unfortunately.

cl-00

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I think there are privacy concerns. You might be allowed flying over private property. But since you have a camera on board, you are not allowed to film private property witbout consent. Just look how many buildings are being made unrecognisable on google maps.

Fluffy_Tension

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Drones below 250g are permitted to fly over private property in the UK.

https://register-drones.caa.co.uk/drone-code/where-you-can-fly

I believe the above poster is right they can stop you taking off and landing legally in this case, but he is wrong about 'operation'. If you fly over after taking off somewhere else then it is perfectly legal.

cl-00

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There are still exceptions when it comes to privacy law because of the camera built in.

https://skykam.co.uk/my-neighbour-is-flying-a-drone-over-my-house-uk/

Fluffy_Tension

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Not really, unless you are zooming in on number plates or into windows you can basically do whatever you want.

Yes you can fly a drone over private property in the UK, but you must get permission from the landowner to take off and land, adhere to all drone regulations, and respect privacy rights. Specifically, you need to register drones with cameras, inform people if collecting personal data, get consent for filming, and comply with data protection laws like GDPR.

Just confirms what I am saying mate.

cl-00

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I know, some people are mad with privacy. may the judge rule in the end ; )

ampersand355

18d

So, in my area of the US it is illegal to fly over private property without first getting approval. We've been having issues because there are some guys who fly their drones outside of homes and film people through their windows.

Are their any good or legal ways to down these drones?

leo98_csgo

18d

Which state or place? You sure it's actually illegal to fly over and they don't just prohibit take off, landing and operating? Only the FAA can regulate airspace.

Alternative_Essay43

17d

You are correct. And the discharge of a firearm into the aim, compounded by targeting an aircraft is a heavy felony offense, which the FAA loves roughing people up for.

BrokenHeartBear

18d

One more reason to love living in the US. Depending on state laws, if there's no laws regulating drones, you're free to fly above private properties while certain conditions exist. That's where it ends, and I can tell you in North Carolina that you can't take pictures or videos of a private property unless you receive permission from the owner and follow the other regulations at the federal level.

BrokenHeartBear

18d

Another thing to add to that, is it could be considered trespassing if you're flying below the tree line or roof line on someone's property.

Hack_43

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What is not being taken into account, by OP, are a couple of things.

First are nesting birds. People flying drones can, and do, upset nesting birds. This puts an awful lot of stress on the parents and the chicks. I have seen parent birds attacking drones, in prefer to protect fledglings. Those birds can, and do, get injured by drones.

Second is the right of people to enjoy a place without the irritating buzz that drones make.

There may be other reasons as well.

The above are good enough reasons to not fly drones where requested not to.

OP needs to stop tho king the world owes him a favour and he has the right to do what he wishes without respecting others (whether humans or wildlife).

dronegeeks1

18d

This is incorrect it’s irrelevant they own the land. They don’t own the airspace long as I’m at a “reasonable altitude” it’s totally legal and shooting down my drone would be Destroying or damaging property. Section 1(1) CDA 1971

I’ve lived in the country for years and had a fair few run ins with farmers. Lol

CoarseRainbow

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Nowhere does the sign mention shooting down a drone. It simply says no drones. Which given it's private property is perfectly legal for the landowner to decide. There are maybe 20 such signs around the estate all saying the same. None threaten any damage to a drone. Literally just "no drones". You can fly overhead but not from the land. There are some non private areas there or permission be obtained from in land owner (again it's signed - he's a sensible guy if you talk to him).

So my post is 100% correct. I haven't mentioned shooting anything because none of the signs do. It's simply a legal restriction against operating on private land.

EnvironmentalBig2324

18d

Nice.. but drones don’t operate on land 🫣

CoarseRainbow

18d

Unless the operator has the ability to hover then yes, they do.

Fluffy_Tension

18d

I'll just take off from my hand and jump when I press the stick then.

CoarseRainbow

17d

Perfect as long as you can keep the feet off the ground for the entire 25 mins or so the battery lasts as well then.

Fluffy_Tension

17d

Once it's in the air, they've got no say about it.

CoarseRainbow

17d

Yes they do. "Operation of". So anything controlling or influencing the flight path.

Fluffy_Tension

17d

Yeah, you are dead wrong about that though.

Show me where in the drone code.

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Gnump

18d

Dude, they literally hung a dead drone from a post…

motophiliac

18d

Threatening display, yes. But so long as nothing is in writing, there's no legal threatening wording.

CoarseRainbow

18d

And? It's their land. They can hang whatever they want from their fence. Even in the crazy laws in Scotland it's not illegal to hang a plastic model from your own fence or glue some used shotgun cartridges to some wood.

The sign says no drones. Nothing else. And it's perfectly legal.

Fluffy_Tension

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18d

And? It's their land.

Meh is it though, or is it land stolen centuries ago that they inherited?

Fuck their private land imo, especially when it has historical things like this on it, fuck them.

Alternative_Essay43

17d

Airspace is public. Try again.

CoarseRainbow

17d

Great. And how are you operating the drone? Levitating by magic above the private land? If so, you don't need a drone.

vermontnative

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Property ownership doesn’t include air rights. As long as you’re following FAA guidelines.

CoarseRainbow

18d

FAA isn't relevant. America isn't "the world". Airspace isn't the issue anyway. The entire area, for several square miles is private property and quite legally doesnt permit drone operation from the land. No take off, no landing, no controlling of. Given vlos rules there are very very few places you can legally operate from that are close enough to film the viaduct.

vermontnative

16d

OK, well then maybe don’t film there I guess? A quick Google search and you could find that as long as you’re not taking off on their property you’re fine. if you’re unable to reach a destination because of the distance required to fly your drone and not be taking off in landing on someone’s private property, then maybe just don’t?

CoarseRainbow

16d

FAA is irrelevant to the majority of the world.

You can fly here. You just ask the landowner for permission and pay a small fee.

GurnerBill

18d

It's just a problem of space and accidents, they have those signs all around loch Ness as well for the same reason.

You're at the harry potter train, it goes by twice a day for about 30 seconds each way. People from all over the world hike up a little hillside and wait with cameras to see a train go by in a very tight window. If 25 amateur drone pilots all send up their crappy drones at the same time it risks accidents or injury to the public, not to mention people interfering with the train itself.

Much easier just to say no drones.

SteezMe1234

18d

Fair point

GurnerBill

18d

Also I'm just assuming your name is a hook reference, if it is I highly approve, if it's not then I choose to be willfully ignorant.

Lokikeogh

19d

Grumpy locals

Intrepid00

Part 107

19d

This is a classic. They aren’t going to shoot it down. That’s some cheap ass drone they bought to mail to the cross. Show me a Mavic 3 and I’d believe they were semi serious on the threat.

SteezMe1234

19d

“I hope I am looked upon as a responsible land manager.” lol cheers for the link

[deleted]

19d

to be fair its more likely some idiot decided to fly his cheap ass drone too far, it lost connection, fell and died, and the landowners found it, picked it up and screwed it up there

to be honest the shot gun shells could actually make this sign illegal, as they are implying direct violence in violation of law? you would have to ask that on /legaluk

Sarah_Fishcakes

19d

I think it becomes illegal if OP feels threatened by the sign

adam1260

18d

Only in the UK is it illegal to threaten someone with a sign

[deleted]

19d

drones in the UK are unmanned ariel vehicles, and shooting one is classed endangering an aircraft in accordance with section 240 of the Air Navigation Order 2016, which can, technically, carry an £5k fine

and then as they broke the law you could easily sue them for your costs/damages in a civil court on top of that

savvymcsavvington

18d

/r/LegalAdviceUK

Top-Fee-7993

19d

Why do so many landowners think shooting down a drone is something thats somehow going to work out well for them 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

Fickle-Sea-4112

19d

Ignorance

Hyperious3

19d

less ignorance, more cops probably siding with the landowners because cops are assholes too

MontagoDK

18d

Well, I've seen plenty of 'sovereign drone pilots' who do everything they can to provoke the police into an argument battle....

Top-Fee-7993

18d

Agreed, they are a real blight on the hobby

religiousrelish

19d

Yee I would come back with my 7inch with the servo-release mechanism 🥳

TheMeta40k

18d

I live in America. I'm going to let those implications run as they may.

ElvisPressRelease

18d

Right to roam right to drone

Expensive_Profit_106

18d

It’s private property so I’d fly and hope you don’t get asked to leave. If you do get asked to leave then there’s plenty of public places you can launch from and get some shots. I went up there a couple of months ago and got lucky but as I was flying back another person with a drone said he got asked to stop.

makenzie71

DJI died for our sins

18d

My understanding is that airspace in the UK is treated much like it in in the US...shooting a drone down is akin to shooting down an aircraft.

That said, though, people shoot down drones in the US all the time and the FAA and cops won't do shit unless it's one of their drones.

Personally, I wouldn't risk flying in the area unless I didn't care about the drone and didn't mind starting a legal fight. Probably not worth it.

PalpitationSelect584

18d

In the UK, landowners can put up signs prohibiting drone flying on their property, but this mainly serves as a deterrent or a notice rather than a strict legal enforcement under air navigation laws. The regulation of airspace, including where drones can be flown, falls under the jurisdiction of the UK Civil Aviation Authority (CAA).

Airspace above the UK is publicly owned, and the CAA manages it. Drone flying is generally permitted under specific regulations, notably the Drone and Model Aircraft Code. Drone operators need to follow CAA guidelines, which include flying at certain heights, staying away from airports, and not flying over crowds, among other rules.

If a drone is flown recklessly or invasively, it could lead to legal issues under privacy or nuisance laws, especially if it affects the enjoyment of a property. Therefore, while landowners can suggest that drones not be flown over their land, the enforcement of this is more about privacy and safety rather than airspace ownership.

titsular

18d

You used to be able to pay the farmer/land owner to fly there. Not sure if that's still in operation

scooterist007

18d

Oh how kind, they’re leaving up spares so we can keep flying!

SaltyMcBallsYummy

18d

It would be illegal to fly there if the area is NFZ but regardless of that, you can not shoot a drone down

SpitfireMkIV

18d

Not sure of the legalities but might be a courtesy to privacy thing.

abramthrust

18d

legal? downright recommended!

Her Majesty expects every person to do the duty in exterminating cheap knockoff drones!

RoboNeko_V1-0

18d

No drone "flying"? Hold my beer.

Wooden_Carrot_6596

18d

Imagine you are the owner of that land

plibtyplibt

17d

Launch drone, go very high immediately, fly over the viaduct, put on master shots, place controller on foot and stand there with your arms crossed, success

Alternative_Essay43

17d

Discharge of a firearm into the air, and targeting an aircraft. Feel free to call the authority having jurisdiction if so inclined.

TonightWeStonk

14d

Yall mess around with the Highlander and find out.

JYoungSocial

18d

They have no jurisdiction.

The air is the jurisdiction of the FAA.

BurntUmberit

18d

Not in Scottland, I suspect. I think that's the CAA.

JYoungSocial

18d

Ah, good to know!

Thank you for the info 🙂

cozy_engineer

18d

Just respect other people’s boundaries.

gurilagarden

18d

You can always count on /r/drones to downvote common sense.

ravan

19d

I would be careful in Glenfinnan - they dont mess around there :)

MEINSHNAKE

-3

18d

As a law abiding and responsible drone pilot, why would you fly somewhere where you aren’t welcome? There are lots of things in this world that are legal to do but a stupid idea in certain context.

SteezMe1234

18d

Who owns the country? If its legal, fuck em and their grumpy attitude. Many people complain about many things and if everybody had their say, we would all be restricted to our houses.

MEINSHNAKE

-1

18d

You sound ‘Murican… ever been to somewhere in your own town and get pissed off at the tourists? Think about someone flying a drone over your backyard every day taking a video that’s already been posted on YouTube 1000 times.

Fluffy_Tension

18d

He's British so it is his backyard.

In my opinion, that's our history, our land, our country, not some fucking aristocrat that inherited their wealth.

Vertigo_uk123

-3

19d

IIRC you can go and pay alistar I think his name is and he will allow you to fly.

SteezMe1234

19d

I'll pay him a fart in the wind and fly from the public road

CoarseRainbow

17d

Then if you want to film the viaduct risk getting reported under the more serious offences under the ANO for flying way beyond visual line of sight and so on. Great idea.

SteezMe1234

16d

Like that isn't the majority of drone flyers. You think most "pilots" are going out with a spotter and all that? Come on

CoarseRainbow

16d

They don't require a spotter for most common use cases.

Its perfectly possible to comply with the law. Which was the entire point of this last post - legality of the signage.

CoarseRainbow

18d

That used to be the case. No idea if it still is.

UnGeekenMunich

15d

Not really. I'm going next week and out of curiosity contacted him directly. He refused to give me permission to take off and land.

seeriosuly

-3

19d

who knows what the laws are in scotland. In the US, not that we do it right or anything, but you don’t own the airspace above your land, AND shooting down a drone is violation of federal FAS law, big fine… if you can prove it. would be interested i. hearing the law in Scotland

nighthawke75

-1

Hubsan H109SM

19d

They won't do things by halves. They will get out the older than you and me .500 nitro express elephant gun and turn your plastic toy into dust.

TheMeta40k

18d

Hmm. I wonder how easy it is to hit a drone in flight. Gotta be hard.

With a cartridge like that, I bet you never hit it.

ride_whenever

18d

Clay pigeons go 37mph (16.5m/s) vs a mini 3 pro top speed 16m/s

A drone is just a very expensive clay.

You’d definitely struggle to hit it with a .500 nitro, but a shotgun will be relatively easy if you’re flying predictably

TheMeta40k

18d

I guess I was thinking about freestyle quads.

Yeah, a mini 3 would be a very expensive clay!

PalpitationSelect584

18d

Clays follow a predictable trajectory, though, and from a fixed origin... and if clays always travel that approximate speed, a target travelling at a differing and possible alternating speed would also be a change in the closed skill of clay pigeon shooting. Depends on the pilot, I guess.

nighthawke75

Hubsan H109SM

18d

If it hovers long enough for the shooter to take a bead....

SurveySean

-2

19d

It’s not illegal if your drone is bulletproof or can return fire.

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