Honest question. This is not Dak hate or anything like that. It just seems like it’s been a while
When was the last time Dallas spent a high draft pick (RD1 or RD2) on a QB?
The Vikings conundrum. However we do draft incredibly well so we should be able to steal a QB with a late first if the time comes. Hell dak was a 4th rounder and not all talented early 1st round picks pan out (Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, Haskins RIP, Daniel Jones, Lance, Trubisky) and that’s just recent QB’s.
On the flip side you have guys like Lamar, Hurts and Love so far who were late first or early second round picks that look good. Then you got a few great early picks like Mahomes, Allen and Burrow but those are actually more rare than common. It’s just a 50/50 spending a high pick on a QB and you also have to suck ass or trade your future away to even attempt to get one.
Being good at drafting is completely irrelevant when it comes to the QB position. It’s all luck.
Unless you draft Luck.
I think it is partially luck but also a majority of it is having a decent team and good coaching. Josh Allen was raw but had phenomenal coaching whereas Justin Fields has no reason being as bad as he currently is right now with his talent. He’s had horrible coaching and multiple coaches on a team who fails miserably with QB’s. Had he went to say the dolphins instead of Tua I’d bet money with McDaniels, Tyreek hill and Jaylen waddle he’d be looking much better.
You can often also see how a guy is drafted and called a bust with one team but succeeds with another (Tannehill and Brees) or succeeds with his drafted team then fails with anyone else (Russell Wilson and Wentz). Really just so many factors.
Damn man. Still sad about Haskins.
Dak was an expected 2nd before the false dui.
I’d say that depends on the source. NFL.com had him as a 4th backup and his player comparison was Brett Hundley lol
Bleacher report I believe had him as a third and compared him to Alex Smith.
USA Today had him going in the 6th and said “Nothing shows he’ll be anything more than a decent backup one day.”
And a round and a round we go…
This is so true it hurts.
It’s because Jerry refuses to bottom out to wind up with a Trevor Lawrence or Joe Burrow type. He says he wants to win a Super Bowl but in reality, he only cares about relevancy and staying in the media. This business side of football is the main thing Jerry cares about and is why we have been stuck in the position we are in for 27 years.
When’s the last time a first overall pick won a championship for his original team though?
Troy Aikman?
Burrow almost did it. (Should have did it it if not for questionable officiating imo).
Idk he kinda turned into Nathan Peterman in the second half (and the second Tee Higgins touchdown was an obvious missed face mask)
They wouldn't have gotten that long Higgins TD without questionable officiating. And the defense was the main reason they got as far as they did.
I mean forget first overall pick. Our last 2 QBs have been undrafted and a 4th rounder. And I don’t want to make it sound like I’m slandering Romo or Dak but Imagine what we would look like if we had a first round talent level QB during any of these last 27 years. Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Burrow, Herbert, Mahomes… Or how about just a coach with a backbone like Mike Tomlin. Our history would be a lot different.
our last 2 QBs have also outperformed a vast majority of 1st round qbs in that time span. Everyone remembers the Mannings and Brees of the world, but people forget the Leafs, Russells, EJ Manuels, etc.
draft position is irrelevant outside of useless talking points.
As a reminder, Brees was not a first round pick. He was the the 1st pick in the 2nd round.
yeah I'd chill with adding Burrow, Herbert, tlaw to that group.
No. A few bad games to start off the season is not enough to take away what they have done for the last few years. Especially Herbert and Burrow. Not to mention Herbert hasn’t played bad at all, he’s just losing close games.
That loss to Jax in the playoffs was absolutely a bad game by Herbert
I'd have said the same last year. They're good for sure, but not close to Mahomes and haven't done enough yet to be named next to the greats of the last 2 decades.
Burrow went to the SB in his second year with a shit OL, and not a lot of talent around him. Some, but not a lot.
I think most people are pretty comfortable with including him in that group.
I mean they're all top 8 in the league right now, but definitely haven't earned being in the same sentence as mahomes, Manning, etc. Not saying they won't eventually, but definitely not yet.
Peyton Manning I think?
Correct. You can arguably say Eli as well, since he never actually played for SD, in that sense NYG was the original team he played for.
A team doesn't simply wind up with a Lawrence/Burrow type (see most 1st rd QB busts in the past 20 years). Also, if you pay attention to thr league, both those dudes are struggling.
Seems like it’s working out better than for the Jags.
Thats a large part of the reason I keep supporting this team. I wouldnt support a team that tanks in order to get a higher draft pick.
As far as Im concerned, all I need from my team is the hope that they can win on any given Sunday and this team has given me that for 20+ years.
I guess Tom Brady and the bucs in the playoffs with 5 touchdowns isn't our biggest game in the past 25+ years but okay sure.
Against an 8-9 team? That's pretty pathetic. I'd put either of Romos playoff wins above that.
They have trey lance who is worth 3 first round picks
Quincy Carter 2001 I think
Yep, he was a 2nd round pick. Dallas traded away their 1st round pick for Joey Galloway that year lol.
Those Quincy Carter and Troy Hambrick years were paiiiinnnnnn.
Rocket Ismail and Joey Galloway! What a WR corps it would have been!
Legend has it, if you listen closely enough, on a calm, silent night in the parking lot of the old stadium...you can still hear Joey Galloway's knees blowing out.
The first Christmas gift I remember buying on my own accord (picked it out, arranged the physical purchase, spent my own money etc…) was a pair of football cards for my dad. A Troy Hambrick and a Quincy Carter. You had better believe they stayed on display in my parents house until well after Dak was drafted 😂
The roster was so bad those years because from like 96-03 our drafts were awful. We were trading away so many 1st round picks because even if had one we wouldn't choose the right player.
Greg Ellis was very good, but still mad we choose him over Randy Moss.
Most of them are not old enough to really remember the Quincy Carter years.
The Dave Campo years were the worst for me.
I've tried to block those years from my memory. The QBs we had then after Troy had to retire. Washed Randell Cunningham, Anthony Wright, Ryan Leaf, Quincy Carter, Clint Stoerner (he was the worst), Chad Hutchinson (Hard Knocks had 9 year old me thinking that would work).
Adding insult to injury, this is when that green team, you know the one, starting going to NFC Championships.
Lord Almighty that trip down memory lane is a dark alley at 2:30 AM.
I totally forgot that Cunningham played for us. Jesus that was bad.
I got a free Joey Galloway jersey from someone on here thinking the post said Gallup.
I have no idea why I thought it said Gallup but I now own a Galloway jersey so there’s that
That's a fireable offense for any GM in the league except one...
Um, excuse me sir......
They traded two! 2000 and 2001 draft picks for a guy that had 2,200 yards and 12 TDs in a Cowboys uniform.
Those two picks produced Shaun Alexander (9,400 career yards and rushing 100 TDs which is 8th all-time) and Koren Robinson who was a serviceable WR for many years.
What I am trying to say is we have a terrible GM.
I don't think you can blame the gm for not realizing Galloway would shred his ACL in the 1st quarter of his 1st game in a Dallas uniform.
I don't think you can blame the gm for not realizing Galloway would shred his ACL in the 1st quarter of his 1st game in a Dallas uniform.
Literally no one on the planet would have made that trade. It accomplished nothing.
No GM in any sport on Earth would have survived this last 30 years of incompetency,
First QB I remember. What a fun ride it’s been.
I can hear my bones disintegrating into dust as I read your comment.
Nah, he went in the second round.
read the title again
He went 53. I guess I didn’t think that qualified as “high”. My bad.
you’re good maybe they edited it. they asked round 1 or 2 but tbh the only guy that came to mind was aikman for me
The issue the best QB's go early in the first. The Cowboys just do not tank THAT bad so their first rounds picks are never early enough for a stud QB.
We had the 4th pick when we got Zeke. Could’ve definitely traded up if we wanted a QB. Ended up getting Dak in the 4th that year, who’s probably the best QB from that draft, depending on how high you are on Goff.
And we were better off with Zeke at the time. Hindsight is silly, because we were all in on Romo being the starter that year, and regardless on how you view Goff (I personally think he's slightly below or at Dak's level) he wasn't better than Dak in 2016.
Rumor had it, Jerry wanted Paxton Lynch or Connor Cook. WHEW
We had Romo, albeit injury prone. Clearly we like injury prone people (T. Smith, LVE, Miles Austin to name a few).
Sean Lee
Yep. There are a lot more surely.
Smith was not really injury prone. In his prime he was rarely injured. He is just old now.
& Injury prone & we are not trying too hard to replace him with a premium pick. T. Smith will eventually be that replacement, but then who at LG and who after Martin? Will ahve 2 big holes soon.
We literally just drafted a 1st round OT and gave another $90M
What are you talking about we aren’t trying to fix it?
Bass will be one of starting future OG’s and Martin will be here for another 3 years.
Our biggest question on the OL going forward is actually if they are gonna pay Biadasz or not.
OK. We signed Steele after an ACL, wild. Tyron Smith goes down this year, what will we do? I guess Tyler Smith, Bass, Tyler B., Martin and Steele. Still a solid group, but are we not worried we just rolled out 2 starters last week and it was only Week 3?
I’m not sure what you want them to do. There are finite resources and injuries happen in football.
Oh lord, if I'm agreeing with YOU, then the end of days are indeed upon us. haha
Damn and here I was thinking I present pretty reasonable stances even if people disagree.
Curious on smith. I don't honestly recall but has he always been injury prone or is that a more recent thing (recent in this context being the twilight of his careeer)
Miles Austin was undrafted, and was a stud for us for a few years. They gave him a fat contract after the 09 season because they had to. He was on a 1 year deal, and played lights out that season. He no history of frequently being injured at that point. Tyron Smith signed a huge 9 year deal way back in 2014. He was an absolute monster, and only 23 - 24 years old. It was a bargain deal for the Cowboys. He didn't start having injury issues until 2020, which was his 10th season with the team. Not sure these were the best examples.
Well I am just saying that we don't do a whole bunch to shore up depth (until this season with the DBs). We don't invest 1st/2nd rounders in positions where we know there is a liability. I do not love the Schoonmaker drafting (I would have much prefered O'Cyrus Torrence. Then let me refresh my injury prone list. LVE, Jaylon Smith, Romo, Sean Lee, and signing players like McClain and McFadden. Granted McFadden like played his only full-time season in 2015 and played well with the Weeden-Cassel-Moore carosel we had.
I did not mean we are wanting known injury prone people, more that we have been very unlucky with injuries.
Him and Goff are similar, but Goff got to a Super Bowl with a good team. Shit the bed, but got there.
I was watching that draft with my at-the-time roommate. We both were absolutely POSITIVE that Dallas was taking Ramsey. Ramsey would have been everything CLaiborne was supposed to be, and backed up with Church and Byron Jones, would have made our secondary an actual unit, instead of just warm bodies.
To this day I am actually still upset about that pick, but I have to temper it with Zeke won me my fantasy league his rookie year cuz I drafted him in the second and everyone thought I was nuts.
Surely all these teams that are drafting a QB in the 1st round have been making the Superbowl, right?
Just wanted to clarify this real quick. The Chiefs, Bengals, Falcons, Rams, Eagles with Hurts from the second round, San Francisco with Garoppolo in the second round, Carolina with Cam Newton, Packers, Ravens, Steelers, Giants, Saints. All those teams I named are from the last 10-15 years of super bowl teams. Besides the ones I pointed out they all had first round QBs. Why y’all continue to use the Jets, Bears, and Browns which are absolute poverty franchises as examples to NOT draft QBs in the first round is just beyond stupid.
Oh yeah, explain Tom Brady then /s
Lol people actually use that as an argument sometimes.
Drew Brees was not a first round pick.
My bad, he was the first pick of the second round. Which also is a first round pick today since the Texans weren’t in the league at the time. Still a higher draft pick then the Cowboys have spent on a QB since Aikman.
Several of those were trades and not drafted by the team they took to the SB.
Does it change the fact that they were all first round or second round talents? Even then, Cam, Big Ben, Matt Ryan, Eli, Flacco, Goff, Rodgers, Mahomes, Burrow, were not traded. Eli was traded the night he was drafted. What are you trying to prove? Legit one of the only ones was Brees who was traded and that was after a year? Garoppolo who was a backup for Brady?
The Chicago Bears would like to have a word
Troy aikman lol
Last time was Quincy Carter. 2nd Round 53rd Pick 2001 NFL Draft.
He said high 1st or 2nd round pick. I don’t think 53 is a high second round pick in my opinion.
He asked for a first or second round pick
I guess you could interpret it either way.
There's no interpretation. He was a second round pick, that answers his question. That's high draft capital.
Sounds like you don’t understand the nuance of high within a round or high overall… and then deciding where that line is is definitely an opinion… but go on with your ways
He said "High draft pick (round 1 or round 2)." Seems like you can't read. Let me know if I need to explain it further for you. Always happy to help an illiterate person.
The only way you could interpret it the other way would be to think they were asking for a high 1st OR high 2nd, which would be a nonsense thing to ask.
No, you’re just wrong. OP asked for a high pick and in parentheses clarified that he meant that to be a first or second round pick. You can disagree that a late second rounder shouldn’t be considered “high”, but that is indeed what OP asked for
I thought a high draft pick was the first 10 picks of the round. I assume you were right given he stated “high 1st or 2nd round pick”
Sad if true which it probably is but I wonder if any other team has gone longer
How is it sad? We’ve gotten super lucky finding talent later in the draft and even outside of the draft. It’s a good thing.
Never enough talent to win in the postseason.
QB wasn't why we lost in the postseason in 2014, 2016, or 2018.
It wasn't even really why we lost last year, even though Dak played horribly, the reasons were in order: Tony Pollard breaking his leg, Kittle making an insane catch, Diggs not catching an easy pick, then Dak. Which it could be argued that Kellen Moore deserves just as much of the blame, watching the All 22 of that game it was absurd and I've never seen an offense that looked like they leaked their playbook to the opposing team more than that. They weren't fooled even a little, the fact we had a TD astounds me tbh.
Ah you’re one of those “wins and losses are solely on the QB” type of fans
Why is it sad that this is true? This means we’ve found talented QB’s late in the draft. That’s a good thing lol
Well let’s see.. we haven’t made it past the divisional round in almost 30 years and the last Qb to do that was the Qb we chose to pick in first round. Interesting…
A qb who had a fuck ton of talent from a once in a lifetime trade where they fleeced the vikings and cowboys had Jimmy. But to your point, I think first round qbs have won a significant amount of superbowls over the last 30+ years.
Ok.. am I wrong? All I did was state a fact.
QB didn't butcher the Dez catch in 2014. QB didn't let a 1-legged Aaron Rodgers find a wide open Jared Cook in 2016. QB didn't let Gurley and a guy named CJ Anderson rush for over 200 yards in 2018. Interesting...
I agree.. when did I say they did?
the last Qb to do that was the Qb we chose to pick in first round.
Seems to imply that's on the QB, no?
No it was just me stating a fact.. romo and dak all had their chances to win it with good teams.. they didn’t. Some was because of them.. others were for reasons you stated above. Could things have been different if we had a first round Qb drafted in their place during those moments with a team that drafts great.. we will never know.
You’re so right! If only we drafted Johnny football we’d have a few more super bowls /s
Romo was a really good QB on a mediocre team
Dak has been a really good QB on equally mediocre teams
Or they were the mediocre parts of good teams…
Or you could look at the receivers that Dak has had who go on to new teams. How do they perform? Like shit? I wonder why that is..
Lmao.. dak has had some very good teams
and Romo didn't? What a shit take. Tell me what team Dak has had that is better than the 2014 Cowboys.
I literally said romo had good teams lol 😂
Romo was a really good QB on a mediocre team
I'm responding to this, so your comment saying Dak has had good teams makes no sense in response. I'm saying if Romo had mediocre teams, Dak has absolutely had equally mediocre teams.
Edit: also, you said dak's teams have been better. Please tell me what team is better than the 2014 cowboys.
Romo was a good Qb with good teams.. not as good as dak but good teams.
Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl. What dogshit he was
Same with luck
Matty ice
Daunte culpeper
Randall Cunningham
All terrible according to your dumbass metric.
Edit: coward blocked me so I’ll just edit my comment.
I’m not dogging anyone. The opposite actually.
I’m pointing out how ridiculously brain dead dumb the “Dak is bad cause no super bowls” argument by showing how many all-time great QBs never won a Super Bowl.
Hence why /u/certo17 had to block me and run away, because they’re a dishonest pussy
Randall Cunningham
Why are you dogging on Randall? Dude was selected in the 3rd round and runner up MVP 3 times.... He had a rough start under Buddy Ryan but carved out a nice career
Bro I answered a question with a fact.. nothing what I said is wrong.. how fired up some of you get lol 😂
I responded to your dimbass statement with more facts that run counter to your narrative.
Hence why you won’t acknowledge the point and have to try to ad hom
I just generally hate morons and intellectually dishonest fucks
How is it dumbass when it’s all right? Lol 😂
What point Lmao? Dan Marino and those others were great QBs.. when did I ever say they weren’t? Hahaha
I just hate idiots like you who get fired up over absolutely nothing lol
And apparently you have 0 reading comprehension as well
Dunno why I was surprised. Should’ve guessed you lacked an education based on your original dumbass comment
It also means we have new leverage when it comes time to resign our QB’s.
Would be nice to have a promising (and cheap) alternative to Dak if he decides he wants top money for his upcoming deal.
Unfortunately unless we feel Lance is ready to go we’re pretty much at Dak’s mercy.
Its quite unfortunate we have a talented QB on our roster
Totally agree, imagine how far this team would go with Justin Fields. We wouldn't even have to pay him!
A top 10ish, but decisively not top 5 QB is a very difficult place to be in.
He’s going to keep us from the top of the draft but also (likely) command top money while not showing the ability to elevate the team in the postseason when they don’t show up with their best.
There’s plenty of reasons outside of Dak for why the team hasn’t performed in the postseason but the QB’s that are worth committing to are the ones that still win in spite of those issues. Dak hasn’t really ever shown an ability to do that when it matters most.
No, it isn't, if you have a top 10 QB, you can win a Superbowl. And then he'll be rated top 5 the next year even if he doesn't elevate his play any. Rankings are pointless because of this. Fact of the matter is that Dak has multiple seasons of 30+ TDs with 10 INTs, that's good enough, it's about waiting to find out if it comes together.
Wasting top 5 picks on QBs every 2 years is way worse than our scenario.
Saints last first round QB was Archie Manning I believe
Why’s that sad? You only get high draft picks by having a terrible season
I was going to say the Pats but nope, they drafted Mac Jones #15 overall.
how's that working for them
Oh it’s true lol not sure if another team has gone longer that is a good question.. I’m sure one has…. I hope lol
It's actually not true. Cowboys drafted Quincy Carter in the 2nd in 2001.
Go easy on him, homie might actually be mentally deficient.
He said high 1st or 2nd round pick.. maybe I’m wrong but I don’t consider 53 a high 2nd round pick 🤷♂️
OP said "high draft pick". He didn't say "high 2nd round pick".
A 2nd is a high draft pick regardless of where it is in the round.
I guess we disagree on that being a high draft pick.. but okay Troy aikman was the last first round Qb we chose.. better?
I'm not arguing with you, I'm just correcting what you said. Nothing to disagree about here.
If you want to change the wording from the OP to better fit your point then go ahead.
I mean in your eyes you are.. I still don’t think 53 is a high draft pick.
All good. Nothing needed to change.
Dallas hit the NFL jackpot twice with Romo and Dak and has nothing to show for it.
Dallas refused to build a line for Tony until it was too late.
Tony in his prime I believe is miles better than Dak in his prime. Imagine if you had a healthy Tony for Zekes first 2-3 years.
You could be 20 points behind going into the 4th and still feel like you have a chance to win with Tony. Like anything could happen with that guy. I don't get the same feeling with Dak.
Because there was defenses that were consistent then. This defense is either hot or cold. No mediocre games from them. I will never understand the Dak hate
I'm not hating Dak. I'm happy he's on our team. I'd rather have him then a trash QB. I just don't think he can get us to a Superbowl and win it.
Not since Aikman and Walsh have the Cowboys taken a QB in the 1st round.
Last time a QB was taken in the 2nd was Quincy Carter.
And that’s why they don’t do it anymore. QC ruined Jerry wanting to take risks on high QB picks
Should've been 2016 if Jerry has his way and we get Paxton Lynch
Or 2014 with Manziel
I don't know if its true or not but I heard during that draft Jerry had the phone in his hands to say we're drafting manziel but Stephen ripped it out of his hands to say we're taking zack martin.
Quincy Carter and the Aikman.... That might be it in the history of the franchise... Steve Walsh was a supplemental pick that cost a high pick the next year
Quincy carter. He was a 2nd round pick. Haven't spent higher than a 4th on a QB since.
Aikman was our last Rd1 QB. Quincy Carter was our last RD2 QB
Quincy Carter was a 2nd round draft pick. Last one.
Aikman 1989, I think. But wait, Quincy Carter ??
Jerry also wanted Johnny Manziel, but got talked out of it.
Yes, drafting a QB highly is the mark of a good franchise. How much did this loss make you guys hurt? It's one game.
Anyway ask the Browns, Jets, Bears etc etc how it usually works out.
This organization has stumbled ass backwards into nearly 2 decades of above average qb play and has nothing to show for it lol
Cowboys are lucky when you think about it. Very incompetent in this area. They lucked in to Tony Romo because Sean Payton was here thus he choose to sign with us and he worked out. Same with Dak , we lucked in to Dak. We didn’t even want Dak. We want that Paxton guy and then we wanted that Hackenburg guy if remember correctly.
In terms of QB this team has show no real skill in identifying a qb as a high level draft pick.
Connor cook* drafter by the raiders 1 pick ahead of dak.
I'm pretty sure they wanted all 3 of those guys before Dak.
Me and my brother talk about this constantly. Dallas really isn’t great at evaluating good QB’s in the draft. Hell it was by injuries and luck that we found Romo and Dak
1989 I was thinking about this the other day. Maybe this is the real bugaboo with this organization. They have tried, to varying degrees of success, to bargain bin their way to a competent QB except for the most basic form of QB acquisition.
Well, Aikman (Rd1) and Carter (Rd2). They've recently been good at finding good enough QBs in later rounds. Folks in here (not YOU OP) believe that the Cowboys need to draft a QB in earlier rounds as if it's am automatic success when there has been plenty of early 1st round QBs drafted (especially recently) that haven't amounted to any SB wins and even worse outcomes than either Romo and Dak. The issue is that the organization has dragged its feet when it comes to putting a win now team (which is what a lot of teams are doing) together. The organization knows what to do to win it all, but they chose to try a different route and bet on their idea instead of proof of what works.
Edit: My overall point, I guess, is it's less about the QB and more about the organization. I'm not implying that the qb doesn't matter, but we tend to focus too much on the position instead of the overall.
Aikman and Quincy Carter
Thankfully we haven’t. The qb draft is such a crap shot. Hobbs played lights out against us last week meanwhile T Law shit the bed.
The best qb in the draft lately has been Tua
Quincy?
We got a number 3 pick in the draft for a 4th rounder like a month ago.
The 80’s. George Bush Sr. was President:
They need to draft one in the 2nd or 3rd this year man. We need to build something for the future. Dak ain’t it
They spent a 4th on one already so don’t get your hopes up
Technically we DO have Trey lance….. lol but really
This is something I’m pretty ready for. I feel like we’ve overhauled and gone for the best available player everywhere BUT dak. I know he has bright flashes and can be pretty consistent, but it sucks that we all are like “yeah they’ll probably not show up at least 1 week this year. There’s always at least 1 game we look like shit for no reason” I like dak as a guy, and I know he can lead and what not. For me, this year is my test for him. He has a nasty defense to help him (usually) and he has a good supporting cast. Lamb, cooks, Gallup, pollard, etc. I just don’t want another romo situation with like 15 years of straight mid football.
I will say, I wouldn't mind getting a Jordan Love type pickup in the late first, but the issue with most QBs is that you usually set your team back at least a year while they are learning how to do it at an NFL level, and then if they can't cut it year 2 you're now in full rebuild mode. That's why I'd like to draft a guy a year or two before we need a new starter. But, if the team drafts O line that's better for win now.
That’s literally trey lance right now. Potential high upside, low risk. Could sit and learn
For sure, he's just unknown for me, only played 1 year of college and because of injury never got his chance, but you never know. I made a comment here about Goff not being good in 2016, but look how much he's improved. I think I would definitely go Online heavy in draft, all I'm saying is if there's a guy there in the late first that we really like and we're not asking him to start right away, I wouldn't be upset with the pick. That being said, let's just win the Superbowl so we can give Dak 3 years with no pressure, and draft all o line with a linebacker and a corner mixed in so that we don't ever have to do a tear down rebuild.
Agree, idk if Goff was ever that bad. Jeff fisher was just a terrible coach. Mcvay came in and he instantly improved. The thing that hurt Goff the most was losing gurley. He wasn’t enough to carry the offense without a run game. But yea I don’t see Jerry ever drafting a qb in the first round. Because we are never that bad without an injury to our qb. And Jerry doesn’t have the patience or time to wait for a qb to develop in real time. So for people hoping that dak fails, you are only hoping this franchise fails
What’s Jordan Love done?
Nothing really, he looks pretty good through 3 weeks though, certainly way better than most highly drafted rookies do.
I hate to be that guy, but setting the team back a year or two seems like a worthwhile investment after 27 years of accomplishing basically nothing.
Troy Aikman, 1st overall 1989 (?) (3 Super Bowl wins, HoF)
Okay look here me out, but when Kyler Murray comes back to the Cardinals we could pick up Josh Dobbs. I’ve seen Josh Dobbs play since last year and I think he has it, looking very well out there for not having played many games
Only way we’ll get a top prospect is by trading up in the top 3-5, which will cost. This will mean giving up future 1st round draft capital, which imo would be worth it for the right prospect. We have Lamb, Micah, Diggs…a pretty good situation for a rookie QB imo, especially if we’ll have the savings to invest in the o-line
If the front office is questioning moving on from Dak then they’ll need to be ready to make that sacrifice, expecting to get lucky in the later rounds again isn’t a good recipe imo.
Is Google down or something?
Cowboys historically don’t like to spend capital on acquiring QB talent. Whether it be draft capital or free agency.
They’ll obviously sign their own, but no to acquire outside talent.
I think that’s why they traded for Lance.
I think the last time was Aikman in 89
I believe we got Quincy Carter in the 2nd round. It’s been a while! I think Dak is good enough to win a Superbowl! He just needs a o-line that can play at a high level every game, which is really what most QB’s need to be successful. I think he has entered in a quarterback sweet spot right now as far as maturity goes.
I say we draft a QB every year in the 3rd or 4th and by the time Dak retires we might hit on a starter.
I think Qunicy Carter was a 2nd rounder but we also drafted mcgee and mike white too in the middle rounds
Well we have a top 3 drafted QB right now who is only 23
Quincy Carter
Quincy Carter, 2nd round 2001
I would love to see Quincy Carter in today's league
Funnily enough, if Dak was their goal the while time, he was a rd 2 before the false dui.
Just like you aren't hating, I'm not hating but couldn't this have also been an easy Google search?
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We are almost always too good to get a great QB in the draft. And never good enough to win the big game.