If it's not, it should be
According to Hemingway, yes. And I wouldn't argue with him, he was wasn't afraid of a fight.
You read about, like Jackson Pollock or Ernest Hemingway...you never read about who won or lost, just "they got into a brawl."
why don’t you observe while I punch your teeth down your throat
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I'm wary of anyone who uses the word "degenerate"
Unless they are referring to themself, or their friends
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Who asked for your opinion in the first place?
Lee Krasner was amazing but somehow you forgot to use her name and just called her “Pollock’s wife” and Bukowski was a sexist, racist, homophobic, piece of shit.
Who disregards Hemingway as a degenerate useless loser and then replaces him with Bukowski? Both were phenomenal writers and complete bastards.
Bukowski made for two great movies but not much of a splash in the bookstores
Think of him all the time.
And he was deadly with a shotgun.
In Louisiana that would be considered small.
Then again these are far from the original recipes, and are basically very alcoholic, but quite delicious slurpees.
Love a drive through Daiquiri shack.
And totally the wrong, yard long shape!
It kind of looks like it was served in a mixing glass.
I also do think there is some unholy “top every drink with club soda” school of cocktails.
Had the bartender top my old fashioned a with soda water at the hotel I was at a couple weeks ago…maddening
Lately I started making Wisconsin Old Fashioned. All recipes I saw as for club soda. This is my favorite OF now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wisconsin old fashioneds are either 'sweet', topped with lemon lime soda, or 'sour', topped with grapefruit lime soda.
Typically yes, but you can also get them with club soda
TIL I guess.
Nah you can do more than just sweet or sour. "Soda" is for what you're doing -- just soda water. And "Press" is for half soda water, half lemon lime soda.
Source: be living in Wisconsin
Make it a grand fashioned and add sundrop with maple syrup instead of simple syrup. Thank me later.
Maple is yummy. Or rich dem and add orange bitters on top of the Ango.
1 dash of oranfe bitters. Death & Co had me convinced.
That's actually really, really good if you haven't learned to sip your drinks. Topping with Club Soda is a fantastic way to turn a sipper into a drinker.
What if you really wanted to sip?
What'd you do?
He drank it an carried on.
SnakeDucks is right. Drank it and ordered another
Same in a bar in Lucerne, I was like wtf? Another one without please...
That’s how they originally made them
They were originally made with a splash of soda water to dissolve the sugar cube
Interesting. TIL.
A lot of big chains have the “top everything off with club soda to save on liquor” rule
I also do think there is some unholy “top every drink with club soda” school of cocktails.
Yeah you proberly already know this info... but its not limited to club soda, nor a cheap con to save on costs. Fizz tops should be different flavours to compliment the specific drink. Alternatives could include anything fizzy, however it must give something to the drink, by either complimenting, or introducing a flavour that works with the flavours already present.
For example, a Floradora contains a Ginger ale or beer top. Mainly to compliment.
That being said, if I see any of my colleagues topping a daiquiri with club soda, I'll slap the fuck through the icewell.
I've heard of places that do it because they can't serve "straight" liquor. Any drink has to have a "mixer"
Really fun when you just want a scotch on the rocks.
This just sounds like you were in Utah lol
As in, there are municipalities that stipulate this by law?
In my experience it's been event venues and hotels that have that rule.
Recipe: 1 booze 5 ice 10 sweet fizzy stuff
Well, the authentic mojito is topped off with CS.
We use these exact Collins’s glasses at my bar. I believe they’re about 12oz
So they served you a mojito without any mint?
I tried ordering a daiquiri at a fancyish restaurant once. The waiter told me they didn’t have a slushy machine 😞
I usually order them as a "classic daquari" to prevent this confusion
Thank you! It’s my favorite drink but I’ve never ordered one because I don’t know how to show I don’t mean the slushee lol. Now I know!
I often forget that Manhattans can be served on the rocks too. It sucks when I just order one and it comes that way. I strongly prefer mine up.
I had a patron sitting next to me say something similar once.
It was a pretty fancy bar. I ordered a daiquiri, she chortled disapproving and said "I don't see any blenders here, do you?". I looked at her but did not respond.
When the coupe was placed in front of me, she said "I guess I have no idea what a daiquiri is".
At least she owned up.
Honesty is the best policy
Sometimes
Yeah I just hate the fact that a "normal" daiquiri nowadays is just blended strawberry daiquiri
Isn't a normal daiquiri just rum, lime juice and syrup? That's how I make mine.
That's correct, and it's fucking delicious, it just seems that people prefer frozen daiquiri and I don't understand that
I don’t think it’s strictly preference, most people have never seen the classic and are only familiar with the cruise ship variety.
The thing is, if I made real daiquiris, they'd be sent back 99% of the time
Nervous laughing in Louisianian
I once ordered a daiquiri at a classy bar and was informed they couldn’t do it because they didn’t have a blender or strawberries. Then for some reason, I ordered a martini instead. That was the worst martini I’ve ever had. I’ll tell ya, I was practicing with gin from a plastic bottle in my early days, and I’ve never even bartended professionally.
Same thing happened to me, plus he asked what flavor I wanted! I had to literally spell out the recipe for him and they still messed it up. Now I know to be sure and order the “classic”.
Ask if they have a blender lol
My condolences. This is why I get a Campari and tonic or a pour of whiskey at these kinds of places.
They don't just dump the whiskey on a shit ton of ice?
yeah but like, you can tell them to not do that
I once ordered an old fashioned and the bar tender poured me a highball glass full to the rim with bourbon and ice. Then, a small bottle of orange juice so I could "make it to my liking"
Sounds like something out of a David Lynch movie
Fuck man, this one has layers
“We missed the exit for ‘Myliking’ a few miles back…”
Honestly, I think the daiquiri is the most commonly fucked up drink in North America. Though I see a lot of trendy bars trying thier hardest to put the old fashion on the top of the list
Ah but have you met the mai tai
I once had a Mai Tai with a coke cola top in Poland... Very weird.
Thats so wrong but somehow also sounds pretty good. As long as the base is an actual mai tai and not just some mishmash of fruit juices and rum
Teach me about authentic mai tai and daiquiri pls.
Teach me about authentic mai tai and daiquiri pls.
TBH it's pretty simple, a daiquiri is just rum, lime juice, and sugar, and a Mai Tai is just rum, lime juice, orange liqueur, and orgeat, which is a French almond syrup. The devil, of course, is in the details.
For a daiquiri, I prefer an aged and filtered white rum like El Dorado 3 year, Diplomatico Planas, or Flor de Cana. My specs are usually 2 oz rum, ¾ oz lime juice, and ½-¾ oz 2:1 simple syrup, depending on how the limes taste. In my opinion there's no better way to get to know a rum than a daiquiri - the sugar and lime enhance the rum's best qualities and quell it's worst qualities, much like how the bitters and sugar in an old fashioned can make a good whiskey really sing. No matter how unusual or odd a rum is, it'll probably be good in a daiquiri once you dial in the right amount of lime juice and sugar. If you wanna get really weird, here's one of my faves that I've posted here incessantly for years:
Mega Daiquiri
1 oz overproof Jamaican rum (Wray and Nephew, Smith and Cross, Rum Fire, etc)
1 oz Angostura bitters (not a typo, that's ¼ of a regular small bottle)
1 oz lime juice
¾ oz simple syrup
Shake hard and strain into a chilled coupe, if you've done it right you'll have a super aromatic foamy head on top of the drink.
For a Mai Tai there's more room for debate, but mostly on the rum choice. The original used Wray and Nephew 17 year old, which hasn't been produced for many decades and is now the world's most valuable spirit, so people like to experiment. For a long time the standard was a split of an aged Jamaican rum like Appleton 12 year and an aged Rhum Agricole like Clement VSOP, but the the Smuggler's Cove book came out and lots of folks have started to use Martin Cate's recommendation of Denizen Merchant's Reserve. There's also different orange liqueurs you could use, but TBH there's a pretty major difference between the bottom shelf and the top shelf in that category so I'd recommend paying up if you can. Honestly any combination of high quality aged rum is pretty damn good in this drink, so feel free to experiment. Some recipes will call for simple syrup or "rock candy" syrup in addition to orgeat, but IMO if you've got good quality orgeat I don't see why you'd wanna dilute it with another syrup. Here's my preferred specs:
2 oz aged rum(use any rum or combination of rums you'd like here)
1 oz lime juice
½ oz orange liqueur (don't cheap out here, you want something high proof and flavorful like Pierre Ferrand Dry Curaçao or Clement Creole Shrubb)
½ oz orgeat (IMO Small Hand Foods is the gold standard, but I also like BG Reynolds and Wilks & Wilson, you can make your own but it is time consuming)
Shake and strain over cushed ice Ina double old fashioned glass, garnish with a bouquet of mint and a spent lime shell arranged to look like an island with a tree on it.
I just made my first Mai Tai last night. Which is crazy for me specifically, but I used Plantation XO, Clement VSOP, and 1/4 oz of Demerara syrup with 1/2 orgeat (and two drops tiki bitters because i have no self control) what a damn fine cocktail, I’ve been missing out this whole time
No orange liqueur?
Yes 1/2 oz Pierre Ferrand I think my just waking up brain only mentioned the things that were different/adjusted. It also had lime juice lmao
Happy cake day!
That was a Wonderful Explanation for both.
This is my go-to Mai Tai 1¼oz Smith & Cross Jamaican Rum 1oz Eldorado Demarera 8 Year ¼oz KōHanna Hawaiian Agricole Rhum ½oz Clement Creole Shrubb 1oz Lime Juice ¾oz Orgeat (Homemade) 2 Strips of Lime Peel 1 Dash Angostura Bitters
Thanks, much appreciated.
That sounds halfway to a long island iced tea
The restaurant I work at has a Mai Tai that is predominantly orange and pineapple juice. Grenadine float ☠️
I’m so sorry
worse if you’re a bartender and every guest’s idea of a mai tai is wildly different so you end up getting at least half sent back rip
I have so many different things I could say to this and none of them would accurately convey the emotions I am feeling
I kind of want to take it on a challenge to create the most absurd drink possible that I can get away with calling a mai tai.
i once had a guest ask for muddled orange in their mai tai so i guess you can start with that?
Oh yeah the wisconsin mai tai
I was thinking it would be funny to use captain morgan, or malibu in a drink, and call it a mai tai, but low and behold the second recipe that comes up when googling "mai tai" already used a blend of spiced rum and coconut rum.
Reminds me of the Instagram collection of atrocities that restaurants and bars are serving as mai tais https://instagram.com/bad_mai_tais
Margarita, hands down. It’s dead simple, but so many places cheap out on fresh lime juice.
So, I’m basically agreeing because this is just a tequila daiquiri.
I dunno dude, a shitty margarita is still pretty decent but a shitty daiquiri is undrinkable
RIGHT, forgot about the margaritas. Good call.
My favorite drink is a whiskey sour, I’ve only gone to one bar that actually gave me one with and egg white. Other places give me some mix of whatever is behind the bar and one place just gave me a jack and coke. So at this point if I want one I just make it myself
Every time I order a whiskey sour it is completely different. I never know what to expect. One time I saw the gal put whiskey and seven up together. Wasn't happy.
Jack & coke posing as whiskey sour… dear God
If it was a coke with lime, they'd at least have recognized what the "sour" means.
If I could recommend a Morgenthaler with 1792 Barrel Proof. One of my absolute favorites.
Not North America but…..
A couple years ago I was in Oslo and ended up at a bar that had a Mai Thai on the menu. We asked for that and the bartender said she didn’t know how to make it. Whatever, Negroni was on the menu too. Ordered those and that shit was completely unmixed and layered lol
She was of the Gaz Reagan school of thought where you’re supposed to stir your Negroni with your finger.
You know, hotel bars used to be the laboratories of cocktail culture.
There's a bar near me called Hotel Bar. Not attached to a hotel as far as I can tell, but they have the best cocktail menu around.
Sooooo you're saying this is just an experiment backed by a hypothesis and OP was just lucky enough to be in the Treatment group? Looking forward to the stats on this one... Let's see that p-value
Oh boy… maybe they ran out of martini/coupe glasses??
Also… are those bubbles in the drink?
Some hotels are wins, some are misses…
Yesterday my GF ordered a mojito and we watched in horror as the guy getting paid poured vodka on line juice
Is that…….Mountain Dew?!
It's a Mountain Don't
Is mountain dew not a standard ingredient in a daiquiri?
2 parts vodka, 1 part Cointreau, 4 parts Mountain Dew, 100% regret. That’s a classic Daiquiri, right??? Everyone knows that….right?!
Doesn’t look promising but how’d it taste??
What did it turn out to be?
I got a south side served on the rocks tonight so….. feels.
I hate to admit that I honestly prefer it that way.
Is that a double?
Aren't daiquiris supposed to be frozen?
Frozen daiquiris are supposed to be frozen. Daiquiris are not.
EDIT: Sucks that people are downvoting you for an honest question.
I thought daiquiris were frozen by default
I sorta just figured it was a Pina Colata/ Painkiller situation
The classic daiquiri is a (shaken) rum sour served up. Damn good too, when made well. I'll happily enjoy either this or a frozen one, but I do think they suit different situations.
Both Pina Coladas and painkillers aren't really supposed to be frozen either. I can't really think of any classic cocktail that calls for a blender.
Pina Coladas are frozen drinks, Painkillers are essentially a Pina Colada that's been shaken instead of blended.
Only in kindergardens
Nah, the only child here is you for thinking that delicious frozen drinks are for children
Or is it you for not knowing that a daiquiri is a rum sour that has been bastardised by the fast service industry?
I've literally never ordered a daiquiri from anywhere, I just make them at home, I thought they supposed to be frozen by default, like a Pina Colda. I usually don't go out and drink, I don't enjoy it because it's too expensive, I can make my own drinks at home for less, and I gam get as drunk as I want and I dont need to worry about how I'm gonna get home.
I swear it’s 90% of fast service workers here defending the bastdarizing of cocktails and service in general.
Hemingway daiquiri, maybe?
I feel you. I went to a restaurant last night and ordered a Painkiller. I got this abomination:
FYI it was rimmed with honey to get the coconut to stick.
Wait, what's wrong with this? This looks like it could be right...
In some way it may kill some pain...
Cheddar’s restaurant right? It’s in a similar camp as an Applebees isn’t it? I would not try ordering anything more complicated than maybe a Manhattan.
What I’ve noticed with a lot of average (or corporate chain) bars is they typically have a designed drink menu. The bartenders will know how to make exactly those drinks. Those drinks are usually of a pre-set of mixes that are combined in eyeball quantities and are usually overly sweet and artificially colored. And often not very boozy.
But ask that same bartender to do a drink that’s popular and been around for 100 years, and you’re likely to get back some colorful variation of a Long Island Ice Tea. This isn’t a slam on bartenders in these places, it’s more of a reflection that people who dine there like the over sweet color concoctions and keep buying them so they optimize for that.
I went to a nice golf course restaurant for a friend's birthday, and donde he's a scotch liker, I ordered a Lagavulin 16 year for each of us. The waitress brought it to us in a high ball glass full of ice. It got so watered down so quick it was ridiculous. Waste of money. I like a touch of water or a small bit of ice with a scotch - like it works on one of those big as ice cubes cause it takes so long to melt.
I mean, I love coconut… but on the rim?
Just know that their other concept Bahama Breeze got ya covered. It’s a rum bar kinda place, and they can make a painkiller… or a painkiller No. 4 if needed.
Cheddar's painkillers were always great to me. Pretty good food, too.
The taste was ok, but the presentation was god awful.
Wtf is that?!?! I'm not a pretencious dick. But a daquriri is only TWO INGREDIENTS.....yes three with rhe booze. But I mean.... Obviously u need booze. Its just lime n sugar. Omg.......like why even serve cocktails at that point. Beer and liquor pours
I prefer a 2:2:1:1 ratio myself. 2oz White Rum 2oz Lime 1oz Malibu Rum 1oz Sugar.
Put the lime in the coconut and twist it all up.
I mean I'm sure this is fine (that is, if you don't find Malibu disgusting like I do) but it's definitely not a daiquiri.
I like the 3:2:1 and 4:2:1 ratio's a little more. The Malibu is a riff because I find the coconut refreshing. Again, just my preference.
A recommendation, if you like the coconut, I'd try making a coconut simple syrup.
1 part sugar 1 part h20 ½ part coconut shavings Heat on stove until boiling, turn off heat and stir until sugar dissolves. Let sit and cool. Once cool, strain out coconut with a coffee filter.
2oz Dry White Rum 1oz Lime Juice ¾oz coconut simple.
I'd bet you'd enjoy this more.
Wow, first time i see someone getting downvoted on this sub😂
😞
Hard to read that line without visualising a bleeding out cop.
Your fault for ordering a daiquiri at a bar....
Ah yes, how dare he order a famous cocktail at a place that's supposed to know how to make cocktails. The nerve!
Bbx
Oof
Did you ask for it on the rocks?
You're lucky you didn't get a BdLt. draft!
Besides the ice, it’s not all that off
🤦♂️
I ordered a Martini at a nice hotel in an Orlando hotel bar recently. "It's a Martini, how could you Fuck it up" i thought. The bartender proceeded to shake it with the ice wetter than I have ever seen and open poured it I've and all into a martini glass
I'm sorry for your loss...
I went to a party with a friend and they served some Longdrinks, one of them was Jackie Cola. My friend only wanted to drink pure Whisky so he asked the Bartender,if he could get a Jackie Cola without Cola.
The bartender filled the glass completely with Jack and asked for 6 Euro lol
Isn’t 25 oz the standard daiquiri?