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Royce Lewis: “The Guardians aren’t the Yankees of old so they’re about to have a downfall eventually.”
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Historically I think we've hated the Sox more but since the Sox have been dogshit recently the Guardians rivalry has really ramped up.
The Ozzie/Gardenhire era of Sox and Twins was heated.
That was a fantastic time to be a fan!
The 2008 blackout game will always be one of my best memories. I watched it with a Twins fan friend of mine and the tears were delicious.
That shit was fun
Piranhas
The only rivals we have right now are ourselves lmao kill me
Then Royce leaves the game with left groin tightness…
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Heated rivalry? It’s gotten pretty toxic. (I don’t partake but it crosses my timeline)
fire smoke is toxic, you'd know this if you could read /s
I have been banned from the Guardians subreddit, I am ashamed to admit.
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I feel like what you said was probably more innocuous than what they said lol
For me it goes back to 2019. Their fans were so fucking annoying that year and I’ve hated them more than any other ALC team ever since. The Yankees sweep was just so fitting in the ALDS
I remember there was one particular Twins fan on twitter that year that consistently went out of his way to be an ass. I didn’t even follow him but he popped up on every guardians tweet there was. It was almost so ridiculous I almost thought he was a Cleveland fan trying to make twins fans look bad. I wish I could remember his name
Remember when Sano hit a grand slam to sweep you guys in September
Remember Pagan single handedly gave us the division in 22?
I do remember that, it sucked!
🤣🤣 I love good sports
I do I do!!
Why did you have to remind us? We are still coping with that.
Pagan was one of the Guardians better remote contractors that year.
"It's an eight inning ambush!"
Classic.
The Royals can get behind this...
We are going to a game at Target field next month while on vacation. (Son wants to visit all the stadiums and we will be in the area.) I’ve been joking with my kids about whether we should wear our Guards hats when we go. I’m not expecting violence or anything and I’m OK with some friendly banter but I also don’t want to have to deal with too much obnoxious heckling. This isn’t something I would have been remotely concerned about a year ago but there do seem to be a lot of Twins fans that really hate us right now…
That’s internet stuff.
The worst you’ll get from a Minnesotan IRL is them holding the door open for you angrily.
Haha that’s good to know.
I wouldn't worry about it. I've never been to a game where Twins fans heckle opposing fans and I've been to my fair share of games. As far as I can tell, the shit talking is pretty contained to the internet luckily.
I hope your family has a great time at the game and has some time to take in some of the fun stuff around the Twin Cities!
Thank you. I’m not worried about me…I can talk shit with opposing fans and have a good time when I’m alone or with some other guys. Just want my kids to have a good experience. And wearing rival gear at a neutral game is a somewhat strange situation. I’m sure I’m overthinking it…
As a Royals fan, I agree. Fuck the White Sox.
God I hate the White Sox
Same tbh
Everybody hates the White Sox. Even White Sox fans.
ive been listening to a white sox podcast this season out of horrific fascination after grifol’s comments about the eclipse and wow, they are a truly awful team 🫡
Wait, what did their manager say about the eclipse?
jfgi
Yeah me too fuck the white sox
USA, USA, USA
These are the kind of quotes that typically don’t age well
Lewis immediately pulled his groin after this quote. Not kidding.
Jobu sends his regards
Should've offered him cigars and rum instead of bullshit. Very bad.
He said like last week before he went like 0-14 that slumps weren’t a thing for him lol
Kid did not grow up learning the lessons about being overconfident from Grandpa in 3 Ninjas and it fucking shows… lol
Omg that movie hahaha. Love it! That fat kid is my spirit animal.
Tum Tum!!!
I tried so hard to find a gif lol
I saw three and my brain instantly went to this movie. https://youtu.be/HKSrjqwn0mk?si=VC7BgIm8uhWX580G
Good Christ! Right off the bat with that kid rolling in…
2 for 25. He went 0-12, 2-5, 0-8. Across six games shortly after that dumbass slump comment of his.
“We are winning the World Series this year. Put that on record” -Dave Roberts
"That's what's in" - KUSI News
There’s a massive difference between putting another team down and believing in your own
Yeah, Dave didn't have to be so bold about it but what's he supposed to say? We're probably gonna lose?
Something equally confident in his team’s talent, but less delusional about how playoff baseball works.
If you watch the clip it's clear he was taking the piss when making the statement. After getting his 100th question that day about the world series...before the season even started.
I'd wager he's learned to not even joke about those kinds of things since then. Everyone knows how these quotes become fuel for competitors.
There is no difference in how well that quote aged lol. And saying that before the season barely started is also basically putting down every other team as if you’re so much better than anyone else when that’s just not how baseball works
Ask Tim Anderson about who the most athletic team in the AL Central is
Idk if he can remember, he's forgotten how to play the game
Maybe he had memory loss from getting decked by Jose
He got hurt already lol
who cares, no sports quote does on a long enough time scale
No opinion shared online ages well
Few absolute statements hold true
Absolute statements never hold true, ever. Not even once.
Only a sith speaks in absolutes
Doesn't he know the dodgers are the Yankees of baseball?
Royce: “I’m not a big fan of the Guardians”
Context: he was asked which Grand Slam was his favorite and he picked one of his against the Guardians and it was because he’s not a big fan of the Guardians.
A classic "hey fuck you too bud" moment, how rivalries should be
the fact people are MAD he said “im not a fan of the guardians” is charmin ultra soft
This is what a true rivalry is... fuck this guy, respectfully
I’ve seen horrible things said…..beyond just fandom nonsense.
And just when I thought he couldn't be more likeable
I already like Royce Lewis now I love him
Im not either. They should change the name to something less stupid.
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this man eats like cookie monster
I guess his groin decided to have its downfall today
thought this was a joke then the next post was that he left the game
“If they start losing a bunch and we don’t lose very much then we’re gonna be ok”
I mean every player is going to be confident about themselves and their team but this kind of comment really only helps motivate the Guards. Best case you do overtake them and you win the division everyone expected you to win anyways, worst case you look a little foolish.
Cliche sports comments are cliche for a reason.
Its nothing too crazy tbh but Naylor is probably getting this tattood on him right now
He wants that smoke.
I kinda miss that Naylor. That whole cradling the baby thing was a severe smackdown to the fire he showed on the field a couple years ago. He grew right the hell up after that because who wouldn't?
That was legitimately fun to watch, even as a Twins fan. Largely because that game was against the White Sox lmao
This is like a few years ago when it got leaked that the White Sox had a team meeting and one of the complaints was it didn’t make sense how they made more money, but the Guards were better. We proceeded to go scorched earth and win the division.
I don't remember that (I have a smooth brain), do you have a link to a story on that?
They literally did it for when Cleveland hosted it…
I feel like this is one of those comments you look back on when the Guardians sweep the Twins to knock them out of the wild card race in September
Please lord. Another “I think we’ve had enough of the Cleveland Guardians”
As long as Kansas City gets knocked out too, take the whole thing
Well yea. That’s a statement that puts Cleveland as central winners in my mind
Never give them ammunition. Btw, Mariners having a tough stint lately but are still the team's to beat.
….I see what you did there
THE MARINERS ARE NOT THE YANKEES OF OLD SO THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE A DOWNFALL EVENTUALLY.
God I hope this works.
I feel like you should at least win a game against the team you’re talking about before you say something like this
This is what I was looking for in this thread, every Cleveland fan should be dunking on us and Royce with this
It's wayyyyy more satisfying for us to know that you guys know that we know and know that we can say it at any time but we restrain ourselves and never say it and let that tension build for 50-60 games and then just when you forget? Blammo.
I am not a huge fan of statements like this but we are guilty of them from time to time. I mentioned in another comment that Naylor "rocking the baby" incident against the (fuck the) yankees in the playoffs that one year. They might motivate the team short term but if shit doesn't pan out like you expect that pain is all the more intense.
It's all good for mature fans. I like trash talk personally and the Twins and Cleveland both have their fair share of warts to point out.
Weird thing to say about a team that’s been consistently great for like 30+ years.
They've had their ups and downs, but yeah Cleveland has been the best team in the AL Central for most of the divisional era
Lmao didn’t we already do this in 2022
Yes and we did it in 2023
ah yes, when everyone on the guardians were claiming their 76 win team was going to win the division after a twins collapse. uh huh
You were winning the division at the all star break and then went 10 games under in the second half lol. This is the same team as the 76 win team with much worse starting pitching. Whats gonna go different this year?
The juggernaut .500 Guardians collapsed, so true. Do me a favor and post your bet slip for the twins to win the division if you’re so confident, great odds right now
I’d do it for him if it was legal here
We shall see
This is the same team as the 76 win team with much worse starting pitching.
We had Kole Calhoun batting clean up and Myles Straw eating up 500 PAs. This is not the same team lmao.
Is this CyLouie 's reddit?
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oh my God, CyLouie, I love your work!
You did ? When? Cleveland won 76 games
They were winning at the all star break which is kinda Royce’s point no?
How could it be his point ? They weren't pacing the same?
I think Royce just thinks the twins have more talent then they've shown
We have been playing at a 102 win pace since the 7-13 start
Interesting point, I thought I’d dig in to some of the “advanced stats”.
You are correct, since April 20th (blaze it) the twins are 41-24 for a .631 average which is a 102 pace. Since that time, the guardians have a slightly worse rate at .612 which would only be 99 wins on the season.
However, that does ignore the first 20 games for the twins and 21 games for us, as well as the rest of the games played up until this point in the season, which unfortunately, still count for season standings.
If we apply to both teams their respective win rates since the Twins 7-13 start for both teams, I believe the guardians end up 101-61, ahead of the 98-64 Twins
But still started 7-13....
We have the 4th best record in the AL why is everyone acting like we’ve been terrible and downvoting just because Cleveland has been really good so far?
Because Cleveland has had a top 3 or 4 record in the entire league and at times flat out lead in win percentage while playing a significantly harder schedule than Minnesota.
In June Cleveland took series from KC, Seattle, Baltimore, even Toronto. The twins took series from, Oakland, Arizona, Seattle.
It's not like Minnesota is doing well because they are beating good teams. Cleveland is 24-15 vs teams over .500. Minnesota is a really awful 17-25.
Why should anyone give a bad team like Minnesota credit ? Because they beat sisters of the poor and get dad dicked vs everyone else? Whoop de doo.
You're the problem. Your favorite team can't be seen as good as your bias wants them to be because they can't beat good teams often enough
I hate to break it to you but most teams aren’t great against teams that are over .500 that says more about Cleveland being good than it does an out the twins being bad. Also you can’t give Cleveland credit for beating the mariners and then ignoring that the twins didn’t same thing
We were a .500 team at the all star break, big difference between last year and this year.
The signature accomplishment for the Twins in recent memory is winning the second worst division in MLB history lmao
The signature accomplishment for the Gourds in recent memory is placing 3rd in the second worst division in MLB history LAMO
The Guardians won more play off games in 2022 alone than the Twins did in 20 years "LAMO"
Sweet! Lets count rings over the last 50 years. Uh oh....
So before winning the second worst division in baseball history you have to go back 50 YEARS for something else. Congrats little bro 💀
The Gourds have been around since 1901. How many chips you boys got over there?
How many Twins play off wins have you seen in your lifetime.
Then gets hurt
aaaaand he's hurt again.
First the “I don’t do slumps” comment and now this. I love Royce, but sometimes I wish he’d just let his play speak for itself
about to
eventually
🤨
Probably maybe
The baseball gods didn't like that Royce. Besides, the Twins should probably win one (1) game against the Guardians first before making these sorts of predictions.
I'm not really concerned about whether or not the Guardians are the Yankees of old because the Twins are very much who they've been for the past what? Decade? Longer?
They were awesome in the Justin Morneau, Joe Mauer days and always crushed Cleveland. Not so much since.
I thank god daily that I’m not a Twins fan lmao
One of the few sports cities that it might be fair to say is more cursed and fucked than Cleveland.
Because having to associate with Cleveland, OH is a better choice?
memba crying kershaw?? memba will smith calling profar a shitter? royce just doomed his team
Royce Lewis loves the Yankees. How do Twins fans feel about that?
Often injured, he's a Yankee already.
He’s Byron buxton 2.0
He grew up idolizing Jeter. As did nearly every kid who watched baseball in late 90s to mid 2000s and played SS
They’re way better than I expected but seem legit. They might have the best relief pitching in the MLB
Not might, and it is not particularly close
It's also true that they have overachieved though. They've overperformed by 8 wins by baseruns, and yeah the bullpen being insanely clutch has probably been a big reason for that.
Serious question. What is “8 wins by baseruns” mean?
It's another mostly useless metric to try and explain why a team is actually better/worse than they are.
It's basically an "under the hood" method of measuring a team's performance. Think of it as W-L record with much more weight placed on run differential and other context neutral stats. Here's a more in-depth explanation if you're curious
Guy might want to stretch between innings.
they should be more worried about staying ahead of the Royals...
They should be more worried about stretching tbh
"I think we've had enough of the Cleveland Guardians."
Have they, in fact, NOT had enough of the Cleveland Guardians?
I need to know that he’s alright. Twins are amazing with the power of the Grand Slam Duke
Haven’t the twins not won a game against the Guardians this year? Who cares if we aren’t the Yankees of old you still can’t beat us
White Sox not helping the cause
Guaranteed 10+ game win streak for the Guardians now.
hmmm...didn't another dumbass Twin make a comment about Cleveland crumbling a couple of years ago? Keep talking asshats. We love it.
Rent free.
I guess we’ll see.
Hahahahahahaha fuck you, Royce
Alright, whatever you say, Elvis Andrus
Agreed. I'm not buying the guardians. They have first round exit written all over them.
Lewis can go pound his groin. Which has done. Speak trash get trash, over rated loser.
Atta boy, Royce!
The Guardians have the worst team name in baseball lol
In a league with three different teams named after the color of their socks and three teams named after cute little birds near the bottom of the food chain?
Nahhhh
Idk I think it’s better than Twinkies at least
He’s right
We don’t even think about you!
Mmmhmm
No Royce, those expected hitting stats and 25th ranked rotation are surely in line with a 103 win pace team
Your fans know more about the guardians advanced stats than us
Hammy went on a mini "rant" about advanced stats the other day, it was great
We almost certainly won’t win 103…but this constant insistence that we suck because we don’t always hit the ball hard is really bizarre.
Shit if we played the twins every game we’d be 162-0
Lol
Wins are wins bro
It just doesn't make sense, the guards are good but they aren't that good, how are we 10 games above 500 and still far from reaching them, it's baffling.
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Idk if anyone outside the AL central knows but this is one of more heated rivalries, between the fans at least. There’s daily twitter violence and he just poured gas on it. I love it