Shipping Wednesday and Enid is disappointing (Hot Take)

Huh. I legitimately have to agree with your points pretty strongly. Although: I don't think Xavier was as annoying as Tyler. Honestly, I ended up respecting Xavier for telling it like it was to Wednesday: she needed to hear that her cold indifference to people who care about her is a fault, not a strength. It's part of her arc! Honestly, I was sort of pissed at the very end when she walked up the stairs to him and DIDN'T say, "I'm sorry, I was wrong about you, I owe you an apology." I wanted to see a liiiiiiiiiiittle bit more growth from her.

But that doesn't mean I need her to date Xavier, true.

I also don't want her to date Enid, for the reasons I outlined.

Therefore the only possible outcome is: Wednesday can be a story about a teenage girl who does NOT focus on romantic relationships. Period. Imagine that!!!

Well, you know, I DO think it would be particularly disappointing. I loved Frozen because it was a surprise that the writers let it be about sisterly love rather than romantic love. More obscurely, in Love Actually, Billy Mack (played by Bill Nighy) realized that his “true love” was his manager (not romantically). I actually think this is also “representation” of a sort. One of my best friends is a woman - she was a “groomswoman” in my wedding, and I really value that there’s not and never has been anything romantic between us. It’s… fucking wholesome to realize that people don’t need to want sex from a person to connect with them, love them, and support them.

In Wednesday’s case, it seems she’s pretty resistant to friendship and has maybe never had one? Which is why I’d be sad if they had to make her one friendship into a romance as well. I have to say “as well” because people here seem to get furious if they imagine I’m implying that people who date aren’t also friends. But that’s actually kind of immature, I think; dating changes a friendship into something rise, and if you break up, your friendship may not remain the same (or even, remain).

Honestly, as I write this, I’m actually surprised that gay peeps on here are treating my post like some thoughtless homophobic rant. I… think I’ve really thought about this from a lot of perspectives that have nothing to do with anti-queer attitudes. But people probably see enough homophobia that it’s the conclusion they automatically leap to, in self-defense. I get it, but it still bums me out.

Huh. I wonder why that is? I don't see any reason to get violent about it, LOL.

i literally had to have the moderators perma-ban a guy because he was harassing several redditors and myself in my dm’s saying i was homophobic and an idiot and that writers and producers answer to fans only and that means they’ll make enid and wednesday gay because “tHe FaNs SaY sO.” he got so aggressive at me in my private messages, mocked me, and encoyraged others to do so as well (someone didn’t piggy back on a comment he made saying that i’m “bringing conservative talking points to a conversation about sapphic love” when i wasn’t and i’m bi/gay af myself). like seriously, i am completely within reason to say the majority of wenclair shippers are fanatics and will tear you apart for any criticism.

I’m not trying to be naïve here, but is it possible that this is just a coincidence? Because lesbians have always been more acceptable to the world than gay men. It’s for a shitty reason: because men control stuff and are in invites left with gay men but can fetishize gay women. Unless someone at Netflix has ever said anything anti-lesbian, I have a hard time believing that they’re ok with gay guys but not gay gals! It’s definitely weird those shows were cancelled though!