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What is it about Olivia Rodrigo that has people always her called plain/average/ordinary in this subreddit?
Multiracial/MultiethnicI love how she doesn’t take herself to seriously on insta, I feel like her feed (minus the tour/promo stuff) looks like any other 21 year olds insta cuz she’s being real and not trying to look hot in every pic
She's a pretty girl next door.
Aye so cute 🥹
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Because she is pretty but not extraordinary. Like you can imagine seeing her working at the mall or walking around your college campus and not looking out of place.
Hm, she'd still stand out a lot I think in college or at the mall. Like she'd be the prettiest person there most likely.
Yeah that’s pretty much what a 7 means. She’d be the prettiest/among the prettiest but still looks regular. If you saw someone like Adriana Lima at the mall she would look out of place and be a lot more memorable than Olivia.
Adriana is exaggerating, her current self is different from her old self.
She always got 7ish ratings tho which is far from average
I feel like she should be an 8/9
Be serious
75 downvotes 😭😭😭
stop 😭😭 I didn’t realize how unique my opinion would be
Actually me too her face shape and nose is so perfect to me
What is her face shape? Is it heart shaped?
Yes
Her eyes are bringing her down, if had more upturned, less scleral- show eyes she would be gorgeous
This. She has sleepy eyes which make her look uninteresting. The rest of her features are fine though.
for me her eyes and mouth are too small
I think it’s not the downturned eyes because britney had downturned eyes and is or was stunning at her prime.
But I agree that it’s because of her eyes! No offence - but She has an empty look like there’s nothing going on in her head . My friend has the same eyes and she looks and IS not the brightest bulb there is lol olivia kinda looks stupid
God, i can now get why celebrities feel the pressure to go under plastic surgeries sm now, it's people like you who make outright mean comments like this on their features, how repulsive.
Honestly I really do hate this sub and the whole concept of rating actual human beings on a numerical scale. But it's hard not to come on here because it's almost like I'm seeking validation from others by wanting to see how they rate who I consider to be the most beautiful celebrities?? Like it's almost a morbid curiosity — how will they rate the person I consider to be a 10? Then when the consensus is that the woman I thought to be a 10 is actually a 6, that messes with my head because it's almost like they're calling me ugly ... like if the most jaw-dropping, most gorgeous woman I've ever seen is a 6, then what does that make me? This sub is really really bad for my body image issues but I can't help coming on here and seeing what people are saying
There is even worse thread here called “rateme”. I posted there once getting 5.
i understand what you mean but i don't think this sub is inherently bad. there are a lot of people rating other people's looks respectfully which is not sth bad, imo. sure, criticising others faces isnt the best thing to do but human beings are inherently lookist so having a channel to voice that out is fine, imo. what i don't like is the misogynistic undertone that a LOT of people in this sub have. they outright discriminate against women who fit into the "male gaze" more and such. a lot of other people are just really disrespectful too. all of which is really problematic to me but the sub itself isnt an issue, i think a lot of people just need to get kinder and remember that the people theyre rating are humans too.
and i get what you mean, that is the reason i lurk around this subreddit too, it's just fun. but i would recommend viewing yt videos where people talk about celebrities looks more and read the comments there as people tend to be a lot nicer and more civilised there and get some break if you can, that isnt a very good thing for your mental health. also, they dont usually end up becoming echo chambers the way a lot of reddit posts are while delivering better content sometimes. and i get why you would feel like it hurts you, it is weird and hilarious to see gorgeous celebrities like Alexandra Daddario, Gigi Hadid, etc. being called "below average" or 6s. sometimes i really want to see how good the people commenting these look and at other times i feel like these people are just sad with their own lives and need a channel to vent and hate and this subreddit is where they let it all out, kind of a coping mechanism, ig. hope you find peace, goodbye!
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there's nothing sensitive about my comment, rating people's appearance and saying they look "stupid" cause of their eye shape are two different things and the latter is plain disrespectful. you werent rating her looks, you were being mean to her under the veil of "rating looks." stop trying to revert blame by giving the excuse of rating looks, there are multiple other people who are stating their comments more respectfully. and it's nothing sensitive either, it's comments like this that pressurize regular and celeb women to get surgeries and alter their face, lmao.
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But I agree that it’s because of her eyes! No offence - but She has an empty look like there’s nothing going on in her head
My friend has the same eyes and she looks and IS not the brightest bulb there is lol olivia kinda looks stupid
you literally said it here, lmao, what's your point? you yourself said she looks stupid cause of her eyes. youre the one who needs to remember what you type, theres nothing wrong with my comprehension here (and everything wrong with your memory, lol), go back to learning manners cause you clearly dont know how to talk about/to others respectfully.
also, people, for the most part, are constantly pressurized to alter their face cause of the way some people like you criticise things that others have no control over/set standards/talk harshly about completely normal features. saying someone's eyes make them look average is fine but saying they're inherently "stupid" looking is mean and disrespectful. just go read about what people who have gone through ps has to say about the reasons behind going through one.
and imagine cussing someone because youre unable to take accountability over your disrespectful words, lmao, pathetic much.
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Britney literally has doe shaped eyes even if they are downturned. Olivia's eye shape is average.
What exactly is doe shaped?
Big eyes that don't protrude
i know people here probably say "Sabrina is prettiER". but idk if it's true, although i get why many people think she looks like a (pretty) girl they went to a school with.
God I’m so utterly obsessed with this look on her, reminds me of Ariel’s dress as she emerges from the ocean. Versace couture I can’t afford ☹️
will she looks good with a more evil/gothic/villian look?
Olivia is way prettier objectively. People saying otherwise likely just have a very heavy blonde bias.
I think it adds to her crazy bitch energy.
Now that you mention it, this may be true. I couldnt put my finger on it until now
Lol I found her eyes to be her best feature
Same
Do you think if she got that fox eye surgery she would be more attractive?
Maybe she's "average" in the Hollywood world, but imo definitely not in real life.
she has okay features with spectacular facial harmony. Essentially, Olivia’s very pretty, though not stunning or drop dead gorgeous.
Women that fall into the latter category tend to have spectacular features AND spectacular facial harmony.
THIS
Second that!! You nailed it.
She's a GND so no matter how gorgeous she is - she will always look ordinary and conventional. It doesn't mean she's ugly - just that nothing about her stands out.
What does GND mean?
Girl Next Door.
Other stunning GND's : Emma Watson, Nina Dobrev, Hailee Steinfeld
Most of those women don't look very ordinary.
It's a vibe Ig. All those women look very approachable.
Definitely not. Imagine a world where Nina Dobrev is average. I'd be a troll, and I consider myself average.
I guess GND in this case means cute & pretty rather than sexy. But definitely not average.
It's more like, you can imagine seeing these women on the market or on the gym. They're girl next door because they look like someone you'd see in real life. Which doesn't make someone less pretty, of course, but most great beauties have one or two striking features that distincts them from this tier.
Not sure about Emma Watson being GND. She looks like someone from a fairy tale book and looks better for historical or centuries stories
Boring and plain features.
She's good looking but in an every day way. I've seen plenty of girls with similar festures. Not higher than 6-7 in my opinion.
She's got decent harmony, but those eyebrows don't match her at all. They're too thick and the wrong color. Her eyes also bring her down.
I’m so tired of the thicker eyebrows trend. Some people genuinely look better with thinner ones. Not pencil thin but just not thick.
Yeah, she looks her best in the first photo.
her face. quite literally
idk i feel like she wouldn’t have been a celeb if she were average looking
what 😂 she’s a celeb cause her music was really liked by the general public and she got a radio hit, wasnt she backed by TSwift too? (i say this objectively. i don’t say this as a fan of either or their music, i personally think both their music is overrated shit)
If she was average she would not have the same success. Thats a fact. Don't act like the average woman in this world is as conventionally attractive as olivia because thats just a lie. if you think that you need to go outside more. literally go to the grocery store and look at peoples faces lol
girl what? all i said is that her celebrity status is mainly attributed to the fact her music took off via radio hits & she had taylor swift’s backing. obvi her NOT being below average helped her out a ton, but she’s NOT above average (she’s average). i’m being objective here, she’s not very pretty. her celebrity is due to her circumstances NOT including her looks, although her looks not being below average/terrible obviously didn’t do her any disadvantage.
i go outside a lot & genuinely see numerous people more objectively pretty than her on a regular basis. i feel like you have to live in buttfuck america or something to not see ppl pretty than her outside….. but idk it could just be that where i live (not in the USA); people are very pretty
Where do you live?
suburbs outside of a semi-global city
Well, that helps exactly 0, but thanks anyways.
lmfaoooo what
You made a statement implying that only some people in the U.S. aren't surrounded by more pretty people than her. So I asked where you are located for the context. Saying 'suburbs outside of a semi-global city' narrows it down exactly 0, so it's a pointless comment. Especially silly considering it's not like it's some high risk security info.
Because... she is. She's average to me because I wouldn't look twice at her on the street, given I see prettier women every day. And this is not a diss, I still think her features are quite balanced, she has clear skin and nice hair. I like her face shape too, but yeah, that's about it.
she has more of a gnd vibe and kinda got more white features from her mom's side than asian features from her dad. no shade to her at all. she is pretty. just not striking or model-esque type of beauty. she is a common all-american girl type of beauty and has simple looks.
some people say that she is a lookalike of miss universe catriona gray. while i can see it in some angles but i gotta say that cat really has more of a beauty queen look. more model-esque too. cat also has more asian features which makes her look more unique. she got perfect features from her filipina mom. just based on personal preference and subjectively speaking, i prefer beauty queen and model type of beauties like cat. so yeah maybe it all comes down to personal preference at the end of the day. some people prefer simple looks while some people prefer more glamorous looks.
That’s probably because she is less than half - more like 3/8 Filipino since her great grandpa married a white woman when he came to the USA.
exactly! i agree she is less than half too and definitely looks more white. some articles have been reporting her as half-filipino but yeah it's definitely not correct. i do think it's great that she is proud of her filipino heritage though.
Yeah, there’s not really any mention online of her being less than half Filipino but family pictures indicate otherwise. And I have seen some fans totally ignore that fact that she is white anyhow, no way they’re gonna acknowledge she’s mostly European.
yeah i was wondering about that too on why they don't acknowledge that she is mostly white. not discrediting her filipino heritage at all though because that is still a valid part of her life. also honestly as a full-blooded filipino, i don't really mind if people consider olivia as filipino representation. i think she's talented and i respect that she has openly spoken up about important issues. but i just wish people would be more factual and not say she is half-filipino.
but we do have a lot of full-blooded filipino artists who grew up in the philippines who can also be filipino representation. but it's sad that they often get looked over. and that more half-filipinos and or like quarter filipinos lol are getting attention in the media.
Yeah there’s a handful of American and Canadian celebrities that are part white part filo but I wish there was more representation for full Filipino celebs here, not just ones that are light skinned. Anyways it’s not surprising to me that her and her fans don’t acknowledge her mom’s side, cuz it’s not cool to be a white American in this day and age, although certain European beauty standards still apply ofc. From my experience in the US, a lot of people that are mixed race usually don’t talk about their white side and pretend they’re not white. I know a girl that’s half white half Filipino, she looks ambiguous but even more white passing than Olivia and always talks about white people badly like she’s not one of them. And I understand how you identify depends how you were raised, but she was def culturally white, she didn’t even know what kare kare was like girl bffr. And I say this as someone who is also half white lmao
nauuur 😭 why doesn't she even know kare kare? it's literally one of the most common filipino food. i kinda cringed envisioning them while reading your description of those people lol. like i get that people like the ones you described would want to be proud of their asian side and want to lean more into that. i totally get that. maybe they resonate more with it. but i also agree with you that they should at least get in touch with reality more and acknowledge that they still have white privilege. 😭 it's so out of touch for them to not acknowledge how their whiteness still benefits them. and at least know the basics of filipino culture if they really wanna lean more into that identity. please tell them jollibee is not the only filipino food lmao jk
Probably because most people aren't going to hyper analyse ethnicity like this.. It's kinda weird don't you think? Do you think her Filipino father is sitting there describing himself as 80% to make sure that she is accurate in what she tells others? So silly..
On top of the fact most people in the Philipines are heavily mixed to begin considering the history. Do you think any of those people will say they are any less Filipino because of some random genetic lottery?
I feel like she’s always mistaken for being Hispanic
yeah i remember the meme "olivia rodriguez, the little mexican girl that be crying on her songs" 😭
they even got her surname wrong. honestly i feel like it's ignorance that make people think she's hispanic. that or they just haven't spent enough time around actual hispanic people or actual filipino people. her looks are really leaning more towards white features. she is pretty though and has conventional all-american looks. just not the most striking or most unique. but still pretty.
Well, I think this sub had fallen far from fair unbiased ratings. People say that about her because she is naturally beautiful and doesn't have an instagram face. When a woman has an instagram face or any noticeable plastic surgery, calling her fake looking is the go-to thing for people to tear them down for. For oliva she's natural and has buccal fat (don't worry well bully you for your round face, then when you Crack mentally and get a buccal fat removal well bully you for that and say "omg but you were a ten before!! This aged you so much!!") They say she's average. I work in a building of all woman, she is not the average woman. And I hate when people say it's based on where you live, I've live in new york my whole life, like a new york six is an everywhere else 10.
Right? People living in large metropolitan cities are often oblivious to what an actual average person looks like, because their version of average is higher than the global median.
There are many pretty girls in new York. Olivia is pretty but she won't stand out
You’re right. It is so crazy how when they see pics of celebs with more facial fat all I see is “she’d be prettier if she lost weight and you could see her bones in her face more” and then the girls get buccal fat removal and then “she looks so old!!! She should have never done that!!!!!”
Because these are 2 different things. It looks good when someone naturally looks modelesque and has more apparent bones but buccal fat removal is not it - 80% of times it turns bad. If someone has more facial fat most times they just should let it fade naturally with age (which will turn out good) and not do it to please random people/trendy beauty standards
She has a fresh, clear and youthful bright face
Her style is very Disney star-ish still. But she is definitely pretty.
She is pretty but not strikingly beautiful
She has a delicate nose for sure, but i found her eyes and mouth area off putting.
She's very pretty imo. I would say 8+. However, it looks like her top teeth are too big for the size of her mouth. I have this a bit and don't like it about my own face.
Her face
She’s pretty. I’d give her 7.5-8. I get that people don’t find her striking because she doesn’t have cat eyes and an overly angular face.
She's not an 8+ beauty, but yeah, I want to know what people who say she's “average-looking” are smoking lol. She's a solid 7 and will probably look even better as she her face matures
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She looks like the Mexican girl I just saw on the bus, she was hot for bus standards
I think she’s quite pretty but agree that she doesn’t stand out a lot, I have been told I look like her a couple times but I see that as a win🥰
She’s pretty, but like average pretty. Nothing about her face “stands out” (no striking eye color or any especially unique features, I’m not a huge fan of her chin.)
Her features are very strange when combined...there's just something off about her whole face. I personally don't like it. I can see how people would either like it or not, but she's nothing special to me
because she’s not striking and modelesque. This sub likes high fashion and Old Hollywood types of women. she’s a 7/10 for me personally.
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Her aura makes her kind of boring.. she doesn't seem to have much personality.. her features are boring and can be found in 18929101 other girls, so nothing unique. Her music is great though i like it
I think she’s very pretty but in a non-threatening, girl-next-door, approachable kind of way. She looks like she’d be really sweet.
The 7.5-8 is actually fair for her. What's not fair is this sub would be sooo biased towards her white blonde peers, rating them 8+ just bcs they're blonde and white. Istg if it's a fairly above average woc or multiracial woman, comments would be "she's pretty but not extraordinary, i wont look twice if i saw her while walking down the street." LOL meanwhile if it's a painfully average blondie (yes, take a look at the comments on sabrina carpenter) they'd automatically rate her 8+
She’s definitely an 8 at least imo, she’s so naturally pretty.
One word: Mouthbreather
ok I have definitely noticed that she always poses with her mouth wide open, but I feel like so many people in her generation pose like that for whatever reason
I think she’s gorgeous. She’s definitely one of my top crushes next to Selena Gomez
shes too skinny.
I think she is gorgeous! But I’m probably being very subjective. She is definitely above average, but I’ve asked other people and they say that she doesn’t stand out that much to them, and that she is plain.
Because some people are chronically online and they label anyone who isn’t at the level of Adriana Lima as average. Many people here call Emma Watson, average, when in reality they probably don’t know anyone with a facial harmony quite like her.
Olivia is really pretty and she would stand out in a crowd. She was likely one of the prettiest girls in her high school, which already makes her above average.
I don't like Adriana at all, she is too exaggerated, her current state is very different.
People usually rate her as 7 and 7 is not average. She is pretty
Idk but i would chop my legs and arms off to look like her
She looks like a pretty owl to me, but yea when I see her she's quite forgettable. I dont know why
I think she's very pretty. Her only obvious flaw to me is those huge ass veneers.
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Damn, they look very veneer-y. She's still super pretty nonetheless.
Her makeup and eyebrows are very natural and she does not seem to have any work done like Sabrina Carpenter.
I do think she is super cute and natural looking. She does look her age. Not like many celebrities that started getting nose jobs and buccal fat removal in their teens/early 20s.
Her features along with the spacing around/between them is something we encounter more often than someone we consider to be unique along with attractive. I studied art for many years in my youth so I learned how to observe muscle/bone in a specific way so often I've been caught by a partner staring at an unattractive/unique person in public lol. I remember a woman eye daggering me on public transportation once because I was studying her bf's face so hard and long only because he was so unattractive in a way I'd rarely or possibly never seen before so my brain was trying to find what it was about his face that made him look the way he did. She of course thought I was into him and I was considered upwards of 8/10 when I was young so she most likely thought I was trying to get his attention--which was the complete opposite. And she was attractive so my brain probably couldn't even hypothesize that those two were a couple lol
Just take all the shit she has on her face and you'll understand...
what do u mean
If you take the makeup and stuff off her face you'll see she's plain/average/ordinary
I seriously think most people's baseline standards for beauty around here are as plastic-looking as possible and Olivia's face looks natural and dare I say beautiful? The same looks AND people get posted over and over again and they're all girls in their mid-20s who look like they've already had work done and they all get 8s and higher. And I slightly suspect stealth Swifties might have something to do with Olivia's lower ratings. Anytime someone gets into drama (even if it's manufactured) with Taylor, their reactions are always disproportionate (i.e., they tell that person that they should get SA'd... like WTF?!?)
Not sure why but I actually find her stunning. Definitely not average and prettier to me than many of the “it” girls that get praised for their looks.
I wouldn’t say she’s plain but she also isn’t gorgeous or anything. She’s a cute girl.
She’s still young. Didn’t she just turn 21? She hasn’t matured to grown woman features yet but I think once she ages more into a grown adult, her features will sharpen and stand out more.
I think she just looks like a pretty high school girl. I could see her growing into Marion cotillard- esque looks by late 20s!
I think she’s pretty and don’t agree with the people in this sub
Idk but i would chop my legs and arms off to look like her
It's funny because I don't find her neither of these things, she is really really cute, she has "simple" facial features yet looks beautiful in a wave of instagram model/bratz faced girls
People don’t like her look? I didn’t know her before watching HSMTM and I think she stood out so much in this show with her beauty
I think she’s pretty! Definitely not plain. She just doesn’t have that instagram look that “stands out” but sometimes standing out isn’t nice. She’s pretty girl next door, I’d say she’s like an 8.5
Her eyes are off-putting.
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She doesn’t have features that stand out that much I guess? I think she’s pretty. I’m glad she is natural and doesnt look like a default instagram/tiktok factory girl