You can only pick one to be your dad
Where did you get criminal negligence from?
Letting kids roam unsupervised in an area filled with poisonous Flowers
The kids very specifically went under his nose to get the flowers, the hid everything they were doing from both him and Toriel, so it's not like he knew what was happening and just ignored it.
Asgore loved his children. Their deaths were the reason he declared war on the humans. He spent time with them, he fed them, clothed them, sheltered them, and let them play.
He still misses both of them greatly, many, many years after their death. Their deaths, and the repercussions from his choice after, weigh on him until death. He reminisces about both of them condtantly. That would not happen to a father who was criminally negligent.
Saying someone is negligent because their child ate/was around toxic stuff is kinda dumb. The forest is full of toxic things, yet families go hunting, or berry picking, or mushroom gathering all the time. If a child secretly eats a berry they found in the forest, that's their fault, not the parent. ESPECIALLY if they know it's poisonous. Like Chara and Asriel knowing buttercups are toxic because they fed Asgore buttercups.
And on that point, would a negligent father care at all for something their children made for him? Would he eat it? And would he really be forgiving after it poisons him? No.
Asgore was not negligent. He was an excellent father who was hit hard by terrible circumstances and choices.
Sorry to go on a rant.
If he didn't KNOW They were there because they escaped or something then that changes everything, but unless i forgot that's not specified. Personally i always assumed the kids were able to roam freely, especially since Toriel lets us do just that both in the ruins and as Kris.
If they snuck away it was just mighty unfortunate, but he can't be expected to be omniscient.
If he knew where they were and failed to foresee that his kids when unsupervised around poisonous plants could get hurt that fits the bill for supervisory neglect tho
He failed to foresee his children's plan to... purposely die? No parents gonna foresee that. The kids didn't eat the buttercups on accident, it was a formulated plan. They both knew the flowers were poisonous and ate them anyway. I assume they were allowed to move through the underground freely, but that doesn't mean everything that befell them while exploring was their parents' fault.
Well.. Depending on the legal system, It does.
As i said, supervisory neglect is a thing. If an unsupervised child hurts itself and noone is there to stop it, the guilt befalls on the parents, as leaving a minor without an appropriate guardian is a legal grey area at best and a punishable offense at worst.
Its not the fact he couldn't foresee that Chara thought suicide was a big brain move that's a crime, because that's an unresonable standard to hold him to: its the simple fact noone was watching over the two of them.
If we're going by law, we need to go by what Asgore decrees, as he is king. Laws in the legal system above ground would not apply
Ok, fair enought. But then the other child murders shouldn't be mentioned either and the comment becomes "Wannabe [blank] vs professional [blank] vs Optimus Prime."
The entire joke hinges on the fact all options have committed crimes that would make any human institution burn any adoption request coming from them after the most surface-level background check.
Even still, arguing about it from a moral standpoint instead of a legal one: would you Leave a 10yrs old completely, 100% unsupervised?
Even without a suicide plan involved, that's bad parenting no matter how you spin it.
The reason i brought up the law is because the reason for it existing seemed like a no-brainer: You shouldn't let kids roam freely, because (and im talking from experience here) they WILL do dumb stuff that gets them hurt, be it intentionally like with Chara or by complete accident, and the judicial system aggrees.
I'd choose Asgore cuz otherwise that means I can't date Star :)
Flair checks out😂
At the end of the day you’ll still be calling him daddy
Your choices don’t matter
Deltarune reference?
It would actually be two charges of child neglect I think.
Yep, I picked criminal just to avoid repeating "child" yet again.
Optimum Pride, atleast in his G1/OG rendition is a great leader and could be a very good father ngl
None, I love my dad
Hey! Get a load of this guy! An Undertale fan who has a father! Hilarious!
Exactly. But if one could be like a fun uncle or whatever, definitely Starlo.
Here here
same. My dad’s on his way over right now for Fathers Day. I absolutely love my dad. No need for another!
Can i have Starlo as dad and TFP Arcee as mom?
Optimus Prime Jumpscare
Optimus of course, the only one who wouldn't try to Murder me (depending on the version, but a good Optimus would never do that). He's basically the dad of the autobots, very wise, and can transform into a car to bring me to Disneyland or get McDonald's and protect me well.
Starlo. Cowboys are cool
im picking starlo over divorced king
Optimus is in fortnite, the other two aren’t. Boom
Starlo! He’s a hard worker with a fun side and only tries to murder children occasionally!
Starlo because he's fun and asgore is... Not great at keeping kids alive
My dad but he’s wearing Asgore’s drip
STARLO STARLO STARLO STARLO STARLO STARLO STARLO STARLO STARLO STARLO STARLO STARLO
NORTH STAR 100%
GIVE ME ASGORE, RIGHT THE. FUCK.
If i HAD to pick it’d be optimus,as another comment said:
Wannabe child murderer Vs Professional child murderer(+2 cases of criminal negligence) Vs Optimus prime.
Optimum prime delivery
I like Asgore
nuh-uh, i don't think so
Asgore. No hesitation.
starlo obviously
Asgore because I simp for the other two and that would be weird
Asgore or Optimus probably, mostly cause North Star/Starlo is the one I like a lot as a fictional husband.
bro tried to sneak in asgore
Starlo. He'd help me be more fit and explore more and likely be actually interested in what I'm doing.
I'd proudly be his deputy.
Starlo
Optimus PRIME
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Optimus prime easily. Transformers prime Optimus was goated. I'm pretty sure the show was called transformers prime
Dude, I'm a transformers nerd, I want big robot guy, I have a dad, but mans is a vehicle in addition to a good role model, he can just chill
Asgore is one of the sweetest, most caring and loving characters out there who always gets his ass kicked by fate no matter what world or timeline he's in, like i can imagine what a fantastic father he was before everything went downhill
ts!underswap might not be canon in any way, but i always loved the way it depicted Asgore - in undertale Toriel moves into ruins and keeps that place as her own personal fortress of solitude where every other monster is literally scared of her, meanwhile Asgore in the ruins made that place into a new home for monster civilisation, a place where anyone can come and live if they wish to. And he lives there with peace and love of the citizens, he helps everyone around, even if he's not a king or mayor of ruined home. Like, anyone in ruined home can come to him if they have a problem and he will listen and help them, i just love this guy so much
even in undertale, the note in his home says that he's in the garden and if you have anything to get off your chest you shouldn't hesistate to come. Like, come on, this guy is so caring for everyone
Didn’t that North Star guy shoot at an innocent child
Asgore easily.
Asgore
Optimus prime please :)
King fluffy buns tbh
not dad, but I want starlo to be my daddy
ABSOLUTELY NOT, Ceroba calls him that every night
nuh uh he's mine
I pick my dad, he is irreplaceable
howzabout all of them? howzabout that
Of course Asgore! He used to be a dad before, his jokes are really funny and he always drinks tea (I kinda like tea too) Yeah, he will be depressed after his divorce with Toriel. But he never threw away Chara's and Asriel's stuff, which means he is really good at saving memories and how he loved his children.
What about Star? He needs to grow up. I mean, he is not ready for such a responsibility, like taking care of a child. I mean, he is too self-absorbed to take care of a kid. I would be friends with him, but he is not ready to be a parent.
What about that robot? I don't know who is he, but I don't want any problems with government
Optimus prime
Asgore’s nice, but I feel like it’d get boring after a while.
Starlo definitely has the cooler lifestyle.
Starlo 🤠
Starlo
Starlo why not
optimal slime 👍
Starlo, because Starlo
Star dad all the way
starlo
I'm sorry for this but i'll choose Asgore. He needs affection and therapy as well.
Plus he's so fluffy and adorable :D
Star I guess?
Why not chujin?
Bro Optimus Prime finna be the most inspirational father ever definitely choosing him
Asgore.
One collected child souls. One is a robot. One wouldn't care about a child roaming around with a real fully loaded gun.
Probably Starlo. If we're gonna be honest, anyone who wants your soul is just contributing hope for monster-kind.
While I'm sure Asgore has come to like humans after almost fighting us in pacifist, and he has experience in being a father, he still harbored the souls of CHILDREN. I can understand Toriel wanting to leave, even if it was wrong of her to do it.
Optimus Prime, I know nothing of since I never watched anything Transformers related. He's a robot that can transform into a semi-truck. I think. Would be cool, but I know nothing of him aside from that, so...
It's in his name, Optimism. He always sees the good on humanity and is probably the most inspirational leader in fiction.
Wannabe child murderer
Vs
Professional Child murderer (+two cases of criminal negligence)
Vs
Optimus Prime.
Its a tought one. I guess Asgore by exclusion? I Don't know enought about Autobots unfortunately, and Star is... Well, Star.