Yunli will be better than Ratio for FUA teams with Topaz

I’d say probably, but it comes with the conditional of getting her LC.

If you use her in a Topaz + Robin comp (the optimal comp for Topaz and generally where Ratio would be replaced), you’d be dealing with Yunli hit RNG for every single attack, and considering the aggro splits between baseline characters, if you aren’t using her Ult, you’d have a 30% base chance for Yunli to be attacked individually.

This of course can be scaled up with positioning and wether or not enemies use AOE/Blast, but the base rates for being hit are even worse than Ratio’s FUA RNG. On the other hand, if you were to give her the LC, the minimum chance would shoot up to 70%~ which is much more manageable and consistent.

I would... somewhat agree? It just depends on the content. Functionally Clara is close enough that you can draw pretty much a 1:1 comparison between her and Yunli. If it's a single target boss I don't think you'll be able to beat a topaz/ratio team; in most cases the boss just doesnt attack enough to generate the full value for Clara/Yunli. If it's one boss and then a bunch of trash, Clara (and therefore Yunli) is absolutely very strong. 

Is aventurine still good to use in the team comp due to high aggro which lowers yunli own aggro or huohuo is a better sustain

I'm going to agree with you because I still haven't leveled ratio

she doesn’t relay in debuff to do damage so her damage will be more consistent m

Okay, but in what context? Are we talking with eidolons/signature LCs? Without and fully F2P? Are the teammates like Topaz and Aventurine with Eidonlons/LCs? In. What. CONTEXT.

Without any Signature LCs or Eidolons, both Ratio and Yunli will be unreliable as hell, but Ratio has an edge due to Topaz guranteeing at least a 60% which Yunli just doesn't have. Yunli strait up won't be hit consistently outside of her ultimate taunt, which she also won't be getting consistently since she needs to be hit to have decent uptime on her ultimate! Double whammy.

With only 1 Eidolons/LCs between all teammates, Yunli would be more reliable than Ratio. Since with only 1 signature LC he doesn't hit 100% consistently all the time. But that's where it ends, since after 1 Eidolon/LC...

Ratio gets more reliable than Yunli when there are at least 2 Eidolons/LCs between teammates. Yunli caps out her consistency at S1 and can never get 100% get hit rate due to how taunt values work. Ratio capped gets FUA every single turn.

Robin a harmony one and if I don’t miss remember Robin while she’s in ult has lower agro

What? That was never a thing. If you are confident, source please. Robin has the standard 100 taunt value.

she also has better multipliers while buffed than ratio and she gets a lot of crit damage and energy so she’s going to be buffed all the time

Where are you getting this? What do you mean by "Scaling"? Are you talking about the scalings on each skill? Or the scaling on her stats? Or something else entirely? Please specify. Cause what you said doesn't make sense to me. Looking at the numbers, I am pretty damn sure Ratio has higher numbers. In BOTH raw damage stats AND abillity scalings. Which would make sense since he is a hunt character. For example: Because Yunli is a counter character, she has more defensive stats and passives in her traces, Ratio is balls to the walls offense. That alone makes her damage scale worse. But it's not alone, since her ST scalings on her skills are also all worse. That includes her ultimate, which hits for less scaling than Ratio Ultimate (720% to 780% attack scaling respectively). Ratio also has higher base attack, but I feel like I'm beating a dead horse ATP.

If you added in that she is blast, then she can have higher scalings for abillities against multiple enemies... But since you already made that point 2 of your argument, are you just rehashing it for point 5 just to make your argument for Yunli more inflated and seem more substantial than it actually is?

There is NO-WAY Yunli is better than Ratio in all situations. Ratio is so insanely good in single target scenarios that Yunli will be blown out the water. Like I said, he just has better numbers. In multi-enemy situations, Yunli can be better. That's why I disagree with your blanket statement of "Yunli will be better than Ratio in FUA teams because..."

Like most things in this game, it's more nuanced and it isn't black and white.

I don't think it's unlikely since i usually pair Topaz with Clara, and Clara being a budget Yunli still performs very well with Topaz, expecially on scenarios with multiple enemies.

I am getting her and planning to switch between her and Ratio depending on enemy weaknesses, i will get her E0S1, i just hope i don't run into problems if i don't run HuoHuo (i don't have her) and just stick to Aventurine as the sustain as Yunli seems very ult reliant so maybe you want to run TY + HH instead of a full FuA team but i just rralky want to play her with Topaz and on paper at least it looks like she only needs to get hit 4 times to get her ult back and that is without counting using skills or basics once it's her turn so it looks like i could make it work.

If she has a taunt and some good survival stuff I might pull her for my Yanqing.

You can use HuoHuo in place of Aventurine (If you have her), so that Yunli has the highest Aggro in the team and for me, it frees up Aventurine for my Acheron.

And then there is the problem that you want Aventurin to get attacked🫠

Does her counter damage count as FUA?

1 She's always gonna have a speed ceiling lower because she needs the ennemies to attack.

2 She isn't that much more reliable at e0s0, she does get reliable faster tho given she only need s1

3 Her FUA are only blast, meaning there are situations (like summons from bosses), where her FUA won't hit the Proof of Debt target

I doubt it she is going to fight with Aventurine for aggro and relying on counters for damage is usually a lot slower.

Clara and Ratio will forever and always fulfill my needs.

Should I bother pulling yunli if i have topaz e0s0 and clara e0s1

April 7th: 🤷‍♀️

As someone without Aventurine, I weep for the team comp being sustainless.

I hope so and think it looks good. Especially with yunli LC, robin and Huohou. Numby will have a great time and finally some decent blast coverage. Also curious about new march with her

Math plz or gtfo

This may be the case of Yunli is topaz best teammate but Topaz isn’t Yunli best teammate.

Since she can potentially get a lot of hits off you want to hyper buff ALL of her blast damage rather than increasing it on one target with proof of debt which is Single target in nature.

Tingyun/sparkle plus Robin just seems a much better deal for Yunli to get her Ult off as much as possible

Yunli is newer so probably

Is Yunli a Ratio 2.0?

I thought she was a Clara 2.0.

Nah j don't think so. She seems decent but not for a FUA team especially since it seems most of her damage comes from contering which is basically making robin not a bit worse for her since the action advance however I think she may be better than Dr ratio in AOE situations but in ST.

Wait nevermind so I forgot I am used to my topaz being e1s1 so yunli may be better than dr ratio at e0s0 however at e1s1 dr ratio will definitely be better. Another thing to add is her numby buffs only apply to 1 target and she can't choose her target for counter so you won't be able to reliably get numby buffs.