Who would’ve won if the the battle never got interrupted Leo or Usagi?

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Plot wise I’d say Leo but honestly no plot usagi.

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Atrocious1337

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Leonardo

Usagi. Leo is used to fighting from the shadows and with a team. Usagi is an experienced Samurai.

Technical-Half9896

If you read the usagi comics, he has no hesitation to strike someone down. Dude has a pretty serious body count and can be quite brutal when needed.

Odee_Gee

Normally I’d agree but this was a tournament that, while it pulled the loser clear just before they were killed, neither was intent on killing each other - quite the opposite.

ShefBoiRDe

Hsagi doesnt fuck around with killing either.

titus7007

On an equal playing field, it’s Usagi

yobaby123

Yep. It’s close, but Leo lacked the one on one experience at the time.

Realization_4

I’m going to say Usagi. I’m working through his comics now and while he’s not invincible it’s pretty clear he is an incredibly skilled fighter. He does lose occasionally in the comics but it’s to legends. Nothing against Leo.

JudaiDarkness

Can you give some recommendation for Usagi comics? I was always interested in the character, but never knew where to start.

Mlynio48

Usagi has only one series simply called Usagi Yojimbo, which started in 1984 and is continued to this day by the same author (Stan Sakai). Most of the issues are collected in numbered volumes, so I recommend to start from the very beggining with Fantagraphics ones (1-7, also collected in omnibus format as Usagi Yojimbo: The Special Edition), then Dark Horse ones (8-33, also collected in larger volumes as Usagi Yojimbo Saga (one volume of UYS = 3 volumes of regular sized books)), and then IDW ones (34-39).

Lorikeeter

There are a couple other series. Space Usagi and Chibi Usagi come to mind, along with the Where-When series.

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There's an excellent boxed set you can find on Amazon. Starts from the very beginning, and after a few short, rough episodes, the comic kicks into high gear. It's a great story fans of TMNT will love.

Acme1991

I was pondering this myself haha. Thanks for the info, friends!

Lorikeeter

Wikipedia has a pretty good list If you want to start somewhere other than the very beginning, I would recommend the Grasscutter story, from Book 12 (1999).

Edit: Amazon has it for $22 to $25 ... and a collector's hardcover for $600

Odee_Gee

Dark Horse released compilation volumes around 2020 but Usagi’s stories tend to be pretty easy to get into as even the extended sagas explain who and what pretty well.

DanOfTheDead

TMNT

It's gotta be Usagi, right? He's a samurai with what, 10+ years on Leo. He's not some random background henchman, he's a full on main-character with all the accompanying plot armor, etc.

If it's an actual level playing field, give it to the guy with the most experience.

ExoticShock

TMNT

They were fighting pretty evenly before they were interrupted, so I'd be fine with it going either way. I guess Leo losing at this point would've kept him humble & wanting to train harder to be more like his new friend.

Really wish we got to see Usagi meet/fight Karai, would have done some good for her to see how an actual samurai carries duty while having honor imo.

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Tarrenger

Leo losing to Usagi definitely would have helped him, especially with that metal spiral he was going down. And Usagi vs Karai would have been awesome as hell!

velicinanijebitna

If we go purely by feats, then Leo should win, though that's kinda cheating because it's his show.

android151

I'd argue if we go purely by feats, the Usagi would win.

He's fought literal armies solo.

MicrowavedHotDogCock

Well those feats aren't in 2003

EbroWryMan4321

I got my money on usagi

Unit-DS27-Delta

Found Gennosuke's account

EjayMasterz

Usagi. If they fought in Season 4 (after the Prodigal Son episode), then Leo would win.

BarnacleBoring2979

All things being equal, Usagi is unparalleled.

Breech_Loader

If I may say, Usagi. Obviously they both have skills and I would even say they're equals. It just feels like the writers would have had Usagi win this round.

PovThatOneSanjiFan

Yeah agreed.

HandofthePirateKing

Usagi. Leo is more stronger fighting alongside his brothers, Usagi has faced armies alone

vtncomics

Mikey.

For the lolz

Ill-Tangelo-3671

Usagi

Piggylish

Without a doubt it's Usagi

Skylerbroussard

Probably usagi as he was more experienced

MrxJacobs

It’s called ninja turtles. I’m sure it’s contractually obligated for a ninja turtle to win.

Especially if he uses Mikey’s advice and just ninja kicks the damn rabbit

PovThatOneSanjiFan

lol Donnie didn’t win and he was a turtle 💀

MrxJacobs

Turtles. Plural.

1 out of 4 winning is all the matters and you can show he’s no pushover by having him beat up the weakest turtle.

DetectiveDangerZone

I kinda doubt it. 2003 especially had the turtles lose often. They didn't really have a Vin diesel contract and it doesn't seem 4kids were to adamant about interfering with the story at the time anyway

robertsingleton258

Leo

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Arch27

Raphael

Usagi is a better swordsman, hands down. I'd bet he could take down all four Turtles at once.

sweat_crustacean

Raphael

Even in the 2003 universe Usagi has more experience than leonardo as he was shown in Splinter's flashback

Bucky_Charmz

Leo. By far.

Monkey_King291

I'd definitely say Usagi, he's an experienced Samurai who's definitely dealt with worse than Leo

Outrageous_Cap_4486

Love my boy Leo, however Usagi was better skilled on one on one.

MicrowavedHotDogCock

Usagi wins. Usagi did much better against the Shadow Ninjas, is more experienced than Leonardo. Until season 4, Leonardo can't beat him in single combat but they are peers.

pkoswald

If we're going by the Usagi comic, he has literally cut a fly in half before and is regularly stated to "fight like a demon", so i gotta say him

Bitter-Iron8468

Tie. They both almost hsve equal skills.

Hiroshock

Usagi, because Leo always fights in a group and while Usagi fights alone.

vegetajm

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LEO dammit!!!!

The damn show isn't called teenage mutant ninja rabbits...

BuildingOverall2580

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