Between the Spirit Blossom event and Aurora'd designer being sorry that the character passing to the spirit realms does not have lines with Shen, I really wonder why...
Ok Shen has a broken ult and isn't a classic "skin selling e-girl fap material" champ. But are there other reasons?
Creating interesting champs
Please E-girls on Twitch to sell shit
Well they're sellin skins to gooners, but I'm sure egirls goon too lol
I feel that with Zurora being the supreme "egirl gf experience with virgin killer dress" being friend with the lonely Ornn, they literally aimed at single lonely gamers.
Bro so true. This is why I keep saying stop releasing champs cuz all these older champs are getting shadowed. Or start removing champs if they wanna keep adding more. In all honesty. Teemo can be removed. Not cuz hes annoying I just think he's useless. The roster is too big half the champs aren't being played.
I honestly dont think the roster is too big. It's just a matter of resources put in.
What about the profit margins tho
Oh I didn't even think about the fact that if they remove champs then ppl who bought skins are fucked. True. I just think they're adding a lot of champs and im sure they've got a good 10 more lined up.
I am definitely of the opinion that they should stop releasing champs for 1 or 2 years and just go to town on refreshing everything.
Oh yes a much better idea as well. Some champs need reworks. Maybe a visual change. I fully agree with this
they should also add an additional ban for each player - there’s like 2 million champs now. but yeah for a company as big as Riot they’re actually so terrible (worse than Bungie imo and maybe even EA)
Bro, Xin Zhaos needing a rework since he WAS released. His kit is just... good. Not great, not bad, but certainly not up to par with any meta since s5/6.
Xin Zhao probably angers them because he's a double name that doesn't make them money
I've been screaming basically this for half a decade across 2 accounts.
XinZhaoMains is convinced he's supposed to be good only when he's the best player on both teams
The insane part is it wouldn't be hard to buff/rework/change him in a meaningful capacity.
Ratios are a simple change, and they could easily make him a tanky bruiser, or a fighter-like assassin with just swapping a few of the AP ratios for % max HP ratios like how they did with Sett, or hella buff his passive to scale with 25% max HP instead of AP, and a 7/14/21 CD on his passive, autos reduce CD by 1s. (1/9/18)
His kit is in such a state, that slight changes would make him a solid champion. Currently, though, he's extremely dependent on game state, and composition. Very much a stat check champion that scales hard with skill, one of the very few I believe.
I think they wanted to get rid of these ever since Akali started dominating the spot light on her rework when she could ignore turrets in her shroud. Levels of Teemo is invulnerable when standing still type mechanic.
Braum is in a similar capacity to Xin, built in a time of 3-hit passives, and all magic damage has to scale with AP no matter what, even if you are a full Tank Support that doesn't build a single AP item. So many things have AOE, bypass armor easily, or just straight up ignores the really good stun because Braum is literally just a guy with a door without it. Xin at least deals good DPS.
He had emerald chromas a couple BE emporiums ago (i have green cosmic xin zhao)
Was that a 10k or a regular 2k?
It's cause he's not very popular compared to champs like yone,lux or Darius. Since they get played more they are higher up on the priority list. That's how some champs like zilian,ornn and zac end up in the 1000 day club cause riot forgets them
Ornn gets quite a lot of attention. The nunu and willump game where he got a part the train conductor skin before that i think the space groove ornn wasn't that far in the past and now Aurora dude got a whole mini game.
Of course there are Champs that get more attention but its not like Ornn gets none
Well ornn only got this attention recently
How do you forget something lmao. Just have a priority order but get to your least popular champions before 1000 days because it’s just cringe. At the very least, in 365 days of a year, at least half the champs should get skins instead of 500$ skins
I dream of the day that rito decides it'll be better for everyone if they give each champ a skin at least once a year instead of the same 5 every 2 months
seriously!!! i’m still pissed shen doesn’t have a spirit blossom skin
Do you have numbers on how many skins are released in a year? Just want to know how many more they would have to make to satisfy your request.
I think the starter idea of shen was to make him a fun champ.A tank ninja ? Damm thats crazy and he did ,shen still is fun but you need to first rage quit , accept the fact that you will deal the 1/4 of the dmg Morde or Malphite deal to you and go on.And because half of LoL's players are kids ,they get bored trying to actually play with champs like: shen ,Azir ,Renata or Ivern so they seek their fun in champs like Yasuo ,Yone ,Veigar ,Caitlyn . So why riot adjust,buff or even make a new skin for shen ? Low pick rate , extremely low ban rate .
That's why I play it as a support in this very moment writing the comment.
E flash taunt 3+ players is a gamechanger
Certainly more useful than half of the supports that are actually meant to be supports
Just imagine,he is a top laner and fits better at support role .He is more useful fr .I once played him adc though,but 3 teammates on this game were friends of mine but still , none helped my lane except 2 unsuccessful ganks , however i saved them with my ulti .The game went well .
how do you play shen supp? i used to main him support a little while ago and he felt very good, and when titanic came back he was rly good with bloodsong but for the past few months i’ve had little to no luck on him support - i just feel too squishy and don’t deal much damage. help pls !
That really depends on the both comps.
Overall going full tank / haste / support items like Iron Solari or knight's vow is a good choice.
Sadly, I try to find fun in ivern/shen/fiddle/sejuni in the jg.
Fiddle is very fun
Riot doesn't like cool badass champions, they only care about the ones they can sexualize the most with skins. They also care a lot about champions that shout random Japanese words. I main kled and I play shen once in a while I know how it is
Same reason Riot doesn't like his fellow ninja
If they pushed for a boyband themed skinline and shoved Shen into it then Riot would do some changes
HEARTSTEEL D:
The theme is kind of hard to work with. His concept is cool Ninja I bet they have thousands of variations and concepts for skin lines but sometimes the concepts work better and are easier to flesh out with other champs. The roster is massive getting a skin every 2 years feels like a luxury.
Unreported Nerfs.
They ruined him with the rework from before 2018 or whenever they removed his one ranged ability that made him an annoying drain tank that could spar and sustain any lane phase and poke in team fights and made his main stupid “thematic” passive ability of the big soul sword instead that feels impossibly terribly clunky and ruining of his original champion play. I used to main him super heavily but after that rework I just had to switch back to Rumble, need some sort of range beyond your ult to survive in the abyssal desert that is top lane. Gnar is a pretty good substitute, but bring back old shen!!
I was just reading the comments, and most of you guys think wrong.
The reason why he isn't getting love is because riot doesn't want him to be played at professional arena, period.
Shen completely breaks pro games and turn them into boring matches.
First of all you can safely instalock him as a good can not lose a lane. Secondly he will just perma split push after a while. This creates a big problem due to his ult, so if enemy doesn't have TP then the game stalls, since enemy team will avoid fighting.
This is the single reason why riot doesn't like him and gently nerf whenever he is seen at professional arena, thus due to his low popularity he isn't getting love. Similarly why yorick or trundle aren't.
He doesn't make them money. 100% that. Shen is... like Teemo, except no one hates him.
It's why Teemo, Quinn, Kled, and so only get nerfed when they enter the meta in some overbearing capacity.
Hell, Quinn lost a large amount of base movement speed when she entered the top lane meta in higher elos briefly. Kled lost the invuln when he remounts, and Teemo just... hasn't been reworked despite needing it since s4. Shen... needs better AP ratios on certain abilities, needs a way to cancel ult easily for 100% CDR.
Certain other champs are like this. Nami is one. Her W has an -10% + 0.1% AP that reduces her heals, and damage early. Why the fuck. It's to keep her out of the meta. She has a really good kit, dominate the meta, and they can't make money on a mermaid girl who'se not fap material.
It's why shen hasn't been buff/changed in any meaningful way.
You know Shens passive shield? It only procs when his abilities FINISH. Not when cast. This makes them nearly useless. Literally only E/Ult is it truly useful on, although E-Shield is only after the 1.5s taunt.
He'd be a lot better if they embrace AP shen Tank. 120% AP + 20% Max HP. Remove the AP Ratio on his Q, and make it a % HP ratio instead. Change up his W to have some scalings, perhaps an AP+% missing HP scaling on size up; every 100 AP is 100 Range, every 1% missing HP is 1% size.
E can have a scaling duration with AP, 1+0.01%/0.02%0.03/0.04/0.05% AP. E & W is an attack reset. Q does not reset it, but does grant % Max HP as Attack Speed. 0.025? Grants 25% Attack speed per 1k HP.
This would grant him a super unique build path, and various options for Top, Jungle, and Support. Would make him a good top laner.
Past level 3 it's the single most boring champion in the game it might be that
He's not as fun to play as the old Shen as people describe him. Never played him before S13. But he's still really good. You're on Shen mains Reddit mate. Why saying this? XD
Reddit recommended me the post. Since you're asking why he doesn't get more attention, I gave my opinion as an outsider. Ofc people in this subreddit are gonna tell you he's omegafun and that he deserves more skins. But Shen is boring now and was boring then to anyone but Shen players
Shen literally has a leave top lane + join team fight button.
Yeah wow no one would ever expect that playing against Shen, you got the enemy team really surprised with that one they'll never see it coming, Shen pressed R on someone how exciting
But it is so exciting....infact, it's the reason I play him at all.
You wouldn’t believe the number of times that does happen. People playing this game have no awareness. You can ping missing as many times as you want it won’t matter
I know you’re just getting the downvote train, but I’m interested why you think he’s boring. Blade placement mini game to ensure you’re pulling it through an enemy is always quite fun for me. The. There’s all the idiots who think towerdiving a Shen is a good idea. W has some amazing outplay potential.
Obviously this is my opinion, it there are far more champions who just don’t interact with anything in the same vein who are much more boring imo.
I clap kyles lvl 18 in 1v1s skill diff
Xin zhao didnt even have a special emerald skin in the BE shop.
They forgot half their roster exists