If you're interested in discussing the polarizing, ongoing soap opera that is Tesla, but you refuse to drink the Tesla Cult Kool-Aid, this is the place for you.  We aren't "neutral", we are generally quite dubious of the claims made by Tesla and their leadership, and have some fun at their expense.  Positive views on the company are not only accepted, they are encouraged - but only with data to support claims made.  Fans of Tesla looking to make honest counterpoints to the skepticism will be welcomed and protected by the mods - but fanboi trolls will be banned faster than Elon can lie about FSD.

One of the core values of r/RealTesla is transparency.  
**All moderator activity is recorded and publicly viewable [here](https://modlogs.fyi/r/RealTesla).**


**RULES:**

**1)** Posts, both text and link, must relate to Tesla or the EV or AV market space in which they compete.  Posts about the automotive industry in general **must** be accompanied by a comment from OP explaining how it relates to Tesla.

Any post that does not meet the requirements of Rule 1, but is related to Tesla's sister companies, Elon Musk, or Tesla fan(boi)s, must be flaired as **TESLAGENTIAL**, or it will be removed.  


**2)** Meta posts discussing the subreddit itself need to be pre-approved by a Moderator, and will be flaired as such.

**3)** Posts whose intent is humor (not information or discussion) must be flaired as a **SHITPOST**.  The moderation team will curate Shitposts so that no more than a few are on the front page at a given time.  It is acceptable to put whatever title you want on original content Shitpost images that are memes/photoshops/etc intended to be humorous.

**4)** No mindless, pro-Elon "Tesla will rule the world" fandom.  Opining Tesla will in fact make millions of cars each year and dominate the industry is acceptable - actually encouraged (with reasoning), as it provides a nice balance and perspective against our admittedly skeptical slant.  But gushing over the greatness of Elon, isn't allowed - Reddit has enough of it already.

**5)**  ALL LINKS MUST INCLUDE THE ORIGINAL TITLE OF THE CONTENT - Crossposts from within Reddit must be flaired as such, and cannot change the original title. Titles that are (for some reason) in all CAPS can be de-capitalized to avoid eye trauma.

**Links to tweets** must be the text of the tweet itself (or a truncated version thereof).  You can pick a portion of the tweet as your title, as long as the context isn't misleading.

**Links to forum posts** must also contain the text of the forum post headline.  If there is no headline, the top (OP) post must be quoted in the link title.

**Crossposts** must be flaired and maintain the original title.

You cannot post a link as a self-post to get around filters, or highlight your own comment as the body of the self-post along with the link.  Self-posts are for written, non-linked content only.

If you have a zinger you just can't hold back, add it as a comment immediately after your post. 



**6)** Any link to content behind a paywall (including Seeking Alpha) must have the entire text of the article included in the comments.  Failure to do so will have the post removed.

Articles from restricted sites must be cleared with moderators in advance of posting.  

Current restricted sites :

- Zero Hedge 
- Teslarati

**7)** The following behaviors in the comment section will lead to warnings/bans, and removal of comments :

- excessively criticizing users, moderators, or r/RealTesla.  Constructive comments should far outnumber attacks on others

- any comment made that implies or presumes that a given user or the sub in general is long/short TSLA stock; generic references to "bulls" and "bears" is ok.

- using the word FUD non-ironically.  It's tired and meaningless.

**8)**  Images of text are not allowed.  Screen captures modified to show information (for instance, a screenshot of a Tesla online order page) are acceptable, but screenshots of tweets, forums, or anything else that could have been linked will be removed, and repeat offenders will be banned.

**9)**  Posts made for the purpose of discussing other subreddits are not allowed.  This includes discussions about being banned, screenshots of discussions with mods of other subreddits, or anything of the sort.
  We don't need or want the drama, let's enjoy what we have here and leave it at that.

Lastly, please use available flairs for RUMORS and OWNER EXPERIENCES when appropriate...

For more on the history and philosophy of the subreddit, you can [check out the Wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/wiki/index) (in progress).

##[JOIN THE REALTESLA CHAT HERE!!](https://s.reddit.com/channel/227985_07d9ee541e7c35713b2daa7c8315f64057b9666c)

<div class="md">If you&#39;re interested in discussing the polarizing, ongoing soap opera that is Tesla, but you refuse to drink the Tesla Cult Kool-Aid, this is the place for you. We aren&#39;t &quot;neutral&quot;, we are generally quite dubious of the claims made by Tesla and their leadership, and have some fun at their expense. Positive views on the company are not only accepted, they are encouraged - but only with data to support claims made. Fans of Tesla looking to make honest counterpoints to the skepticism will be welcomed and protected by the mods - but fanboi trolls will be banned faster than Elon can lie about FSD.

One of the core values of <a href="/r/RealTesla">r/RealTesla</a> is transparency. 
All moderator activity is recorded and publicly viewable <a href="https://modlogs.fyi/r/RealTesla">here</a>.

RULES:

1) Posts, both text and link, must relate to Tesla or the EV or AV market space in which they compete. Posts about the automotive industry in general must be accompanied by a comment from OP explaining how it relates to Tesla.

Any post that does not meet the requirements of Rule 1, but is related to Tesla&#39;s sister companies, Elon Musk, or Tesla fan(boi)s, must be flaired as TESLAGENTIAL, or it will be removed. 

2) Meta posts discussing the subreddit itself need to be pre-approved by a Moderator, and will be flaired as such.

3) Posts whose intent is humor (not information or discussion) must be flaired as a SHITPOST. The moderation team will curate Shitposts so that no more than a few are on the front page at a given time. It is acceptable to put whatever title you want on original content Shitpost images that are memes/photoshops/etc intended to be humorous.

4) No mindless, pro-Elon &quot;Tesla will rule the world&quot; fandom. Opining Tesla will in fact make millions of cars each year and dominate the industry is acceptable - actually encouraged (with reasoning), as it provides a nice balance and perspective against our admittedly skeptical slant. But gushing over the greatness of Elon, isn&#39;t allowed - Reddit has enough of it already.

5) ALL LINKS MUST INCLUDE THE ORIGINAL TITLE OF THE CONTENT - Crossposts from within Reddit must be flaired as such, and cannot change the original title. Titles that are (for some reason) in all CAPS can be de-capitalized to avoid eye trauma.

Links to tweets must be the text of the tweet itself (or a truncated version thereof). You can pick a portion of the tweet as your title, as long as the context isn&#39;t misleading.

Links to forum posts must also contain the text of the forum post headline. If there is no headline, the top (OP) post must be quoted in the link title.

Crossposts must be flaired and maintain the original title.

You cannot post a link as a self-post to get around filters, or highlight your own comment as the body of the self-post along with the link. Self-posts are for written, non-linked content only.

If you have a zinger you just can&#39;t hold back, add it as a comment immediately after your post. 

6) Any link to content behind a paywall (including Seeking Alpha) must have the entire text of the article included in the comments. Failure to do so will have the post removed.

Articles from restricted sites must be cleared with moderators in advance of posting. 

Current restricted sites :

<ul>
<li>Zero Hedge </li>
<li>Teslarati</li>
</ul>

7) The following behaviors in the comment section will lead to warnings/bans, and removal of comments :

<ul>
<li>excessively criticizing users, moderators, or <a href="/r/RealTesla">r/RealTesla</a>. Constructive comments should far outnumber attacks on others</li>
<li>any comment made that implies or presumes that a given user or the sub in general is long/short TSLA stock; generic references to &quot;bulls&quot; and &quot;bears&quot; is ok.</li>
<li>using the word FUD non-ironically. It&#39;s tired and meaningless.</li>
</ul>

8) Images of text are not allowed. Screen captures modified to show information (for instance, a screenshot of a Tesla online order page) are acceptable, but screenshots of tweets, forums, or anything else that could have been linked will be removed, and repeat offenders will be banned.

9) Posts made for the purpose of discussing other subreddits are not allowed. This includes discussions about being banned, screenshots of discussions with mods of other subreddits, or anything of the sort.
 We don&#39;t need or want the drama, let&#39;s enjoy what we have here and leave it at that.

Lastly, please use available flairs for RUMORS and OWNER EXPERIENCES when appropriate...

For more on the history and philosophy of the subreddit, you can <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/wiki/index">check out the Wiki</a> (in progress).

<h2><a href="https://s.reddit.com/channel/227985_07d9ee541e7c35713b2daa7c8315f64057b9666c">JOIN THE REALTESLA CHAT HERE!!</a></h2>
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the home of Tesla discussion for those who haven't drank the Elon-Ade

<div class="md">the home of Tesla discussion for those who haven&#39;t drank the Elon-Ade
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* Before posting, please review the subreddit rules in the sidebar.

* Posts must pertain to Tesla (Rule 1).

* For link posts and crossposts, preserve the original title (Rule 5). 

* Image posts are generally discouraged and are subject to summary deletion (Rule 8).

* Do not make posts or comments about other subreddits, and especially do not have meta discussions of or announce bans from other subreddits (Rule 9). Everyone is familiar with the ban-bot targeting this and other subs, and it's already been widely discussed across reddit, multiple forums for Tesla and other EV brands, Facebook groups, other social media, et cetera. We don't need to hear about it constantly.

<div class="md"><ul>
<li>Before posting, please review the subreddit rules in the sidebar.</li>
<li>Posts must pertain to Tesla (Rule 1).</li>
<li>For link posts and crossposts, preserve the original title (Rule 5). </li>
<li>Image posts are generally discouraged and are subject to summary deletion (Rule 8).</li>
<li>Do not make posts or comments about other subreddits, and especially do not have meta discussions of or announce bans from other subreddits (Rule 9). Everyone is familiar with the ban-bot targeting this and other subs, and it&#39;s already been widely discussed across reddit, multiple forums for Tesla and other EV brands, Facebook groups, other social media, et cetera. We don&#39;t need to hear about it constantly.</li>
</ul>
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