Former presidents trying to make a comeback have a poor record of achieving their ambitions. This particular former president has been twice impeached, tried to overthrow the government, continues to lose court cases against him, and has significant portions of Republicans voting against him in the primaries for candidates who are no longer running.
Should he drop out? Will he?
Should Donald Trump set down his campaign? Yes, for the sake of the Union, as his intent to follow the Unitary Executive Theory (ie, using the powers of the Executive to circumvent the legislature in terms of enforcement and imposition of law) indicates. Throw in how many of his backers are openly calling for a Christian Theocracy, with all of the sexism, racism, and bigotry that entails, and we’re looking at a truly horrifying next four years, presuming that Trump even steps down after his tenure. He has, after all, admired Chinese President Xi for his lack of term limits, and even said that he himself deserves a third term.
Will Trump drop out? No. If he does so, he loses his leverage against the many legal actions being taken against him, and he is too narcissistic to do so anyway. He feels wronged by the 2020 election: he wants payback.
Correction. He is grifting about the 2020 election. He has been told by everyone he has ever trusted as a counselor that he lost. I think it’s an important distinction
I think it’s both. He definitely feels personally wronged. Dude is about as vindictive a person as they come. He is also a natural born grifter and this is his greatest scam, maybe ever.
He may feel “wronged” but the only possibility that he doesn’t know he lost is if he literally thinks it’s impossible for him to lose. Which admittedly is possible if only on some insane narcissistic level
He knows that he lost. He's lost at pretty much everything he's ever done. the only reason he got the presidency in the first place is because the EC gave him the technical advantage. The will of the people was thwarted.
I am no psychologist but dude seems to have drank his own koolaid, to some degree. I think there is a part of him that is so accustomed to the bulldozer-style denial of anything that threatens his tiny ego, that he starts to believe the coverup. He seems to lie and tell the truth with equal ease. I think a part of him really believes whatever words are currently coming out of his mouth.
Coverup? Do tell...
He's fired all his Cassandras or driven them away.
I think there’s a psychological thing that happens where you can know you technically lost while simultaneously blaming it on some weird, enigmatic forces of the world that specifically and unfairly target you to cause your downfall.
Everyone who has played co-op or competitive online video games probably sees this play out on a daily basis. It’s insane how much your brain can twist reality to make you see yourself as the good guy / main character.
I think even the people we would consider the worst of the worst (Hitler for example) would have considered themselves to be fighting for a righteous cause.
Yes it may have been some weird enigmatic Force, or it could have been the plastic bins full of ballots that showed up in polling places after voting hours. It might be that George Soros just happened to invest millions of dollars in vote tabulating machines. Hell maybe it was the fact that Biden can't fill a room with supporters and Trump can fill stadiums. But I think the main reason why he feels ripped off is the huge spikes of Biden voters to just happen to appear very late in the game, just all Biden voters, all mail in votes, late at night, long after voting should have been closed. But none of this really affects you does it because you don't care if they stole the election cuz it's your guy.
Vice President Mike Pence: He told Trump “he had seen no evidence” of fraud that would change the result of the 2020 election.
Senior Justice Department Leaders: They told Trump multiple times there was no evidence to support his claims of election fraud.
Director of National Intelligence: Told Trump the intelligence community did not find any evidence of foreign interference that “would change the outcome of the election.”
Department of Homeland Security: Issued a public statement that “that there was no evidence any voting system had been comprised” and ‘the 2020 election was the most secure in American history.’”
Senior White House Attorneys: Told Trump there was “no evidence” of election fraud.
Senior Trump Campaign Staff: The day before the election, they told Trump he only had a 5-10% chance of winning his re-election, and only if he won ongoing vote counts and litigation in Arizona, Georgia, and Wisconsin. A week later, he lost in Arizona, “meaning he had lost the election.”
State legislators and officials: Many, who supported his re-election and voted for him, repeatedly told him that his election fraud claims were “false.”
State and federal courts: They assessed all of his lawsuits alleging election fraud and ruled “his allegations were meritless.”
No one actually thought it was "rigged."
Everyone knew he lost and it was a legit loss.
Why are we still humoring the GOP's lies and trying to pretend they were operating in good faith?
Trump wasn't operating in good faith and never is. He's... kinda completely dishonest and much more likely than not to tell stupid lies.
Trump is just a giant liar that can't be trusted.
Sorry, as ignorant as Trump is... he's not THAT stupid.
Of course he knows it's a giant lie.
For goodness sake, Trump called the 2016 primary he won "rigged," as well as that 2016 election. It was part of his playbook before he ever even lost an election.
"Apparently, when anyone votes against him, it’s an act of theft," Cruz, who was running against Trump, told Glenn Beck in April 2016. That's the same Ted Cruz that knew better then... but would support his stupid lies later, of course.
They aren't accidentally lying to you because they don't know better. They are purposely telling you these asinine lies because they think you are that stupid.
No it's still very much an open question. Thousands of Biden votes coming in after hours, 100% voting for Biden? It's proven beyond a doubt that a certain percentage of Biden votes were from dead people, but somehow that's acceptable. The political machine is crooked, and Trump isn't part of the machine. Why do you think George Soros invested millions of dollars in voting machines by the way? Cuz it was a money maker?
Wow. Apparently, you just believed every single lie they told you.
The people spreading those lies never believed anything they were telling you.
Think of Rudy Giuliani admitting he was lying about Georgia election... with a defense of those public comments being protected by the First Amendment.
Not that it was true or he thought it was true at the time... nope. Simply that he knew he was lying and conceding that it was lies... but simply that his lies were protected speech.
But... people love conspiracy theories and there will always be charlatans trying to capitalize on that...
None of that stuff you said is remotely accurate. AT ALL. Sorry.
You were lied to and chose to believe those lies. We know this. The facts are very clear here.
And Trump is the biggest grifter conman liar around. Sorry, total crazytown to want to trust what Trump told you...
It's proven beyond a doubt that a certain percentage of Biden votes were from dead people, but somehow that's acceptable.
If you have such proof, you should probably provide that to the RNC. Or Fox. They've been looking for that evidence for years and haven't ever found a single bit of it.
They'd make you rich!
Edit: Your shadowbanned response is "Google it."
So you're acknowledging you actually have no evidence whatsoever to back up these repeatedly disproven claims, yeah?
He loses money being president. But what do you think was his worst policy? Maybe his worst executive order?
His kids received a couple hundred million while he was POTUS and his son-in-(out)law Jared scored $2BILLION from the Saudis after he lost. How many of those TS documents he loaded on his private plane did that take? How many more will he sell if he wins?
Should that be illegal? I think so. How about Hunter Biden receiving millions from an oil company in Ukraine? Then the US sending billions of dollars to Ukraine. Does it bother you when the Democrats do it?
Should selling access to your POTUS-daddy be illegal? Pretty sure it is, and the GOPutins had 4 years to prove Hunter did it and came up with NOTHING. Trump's minions cannot say in court what they tell you on the social media BECAUSE ITS A LIE and telling lies in court will get you time in jail.
What do YOU think Jarred could have given the Saudis to justify them giving his failing investment firm $2Billion? Could it have something to do with the carload of TS material loaded on to trumps private jet the day before FBI raided his resort?
Virtually every dime's worth of military aid sent to the Ukraine will create a dime's worth of US paychecks to replace the inventory we're sending. Are you against our workers? And if Putin wins, what will happen to the rest of Europe? Trump wants to leave NATO so his buddy can retake the USSR, but first he's going to help re-enslave 30 million people because their President would not lie about the Bidens.
Trump also said the 2016 primaries were rigged, and the 2016 elections were rigged.
Just the primaries. The Democrats pretty much stabbed Bernie Sanders in the back. Totally rigged.
There were lots of stories in 2016 that he didn’t actually want the job.
Poppycock. If he didn’t want the job, he wouldn’t have followed through on it. He definitely wouldn’t run for reelection, and then run again.
Crimes or not, the narcissist thing is true. He will never accept results in which he doesn’t get the most votes. He still insists he won the 2016 popular vote.
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No other former president had a multi-million person cult following.
There's no such thing as a multi-million person cult. What you're talking about is the middle class of America.
No, I’m talking about a cult. The cult of Donald Trump. A uniquely un-American cult of personality like the one that surrounded Adolf Hitler.
A Christian Theocracy being Sexist, Racist, and Homophobic would be moronic and hypocritical because Christianity does not tolerate any form of hate. Matthew 6:14-15 "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." This means that we all sin and if we cannot forgive each other for our sins then we won't be forgiven for our own, Christianity does not Support Homosexual acts Romans 1:26-28 ~ "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done." But that doesn't mean we are supposed to hate Homosexuals but rather try to help bring them to Jesus so that they can be forgiven for their sin. Also Hating someone for their race or sex is very much against the word of Jesus because Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."
Edit:I assume u/universoulja blocked me before I could correct misinformation so I'll put it here Judging 2.4 billion people off of the actions of a few is mighty bigoted of you it's saddening how much you internet atheists hate me and my people. Also if you are talking about Lot from Genesis 19 he wasn't a Christian he was far from it actually he was a Jew, and you've got the story completely twisted maybe go actually read Genesis 19 before trying to hit me with a "got ya" comeback that whole story was a warning about sexual immorality in a group of people corrupting even the most Righteous of that group. Judge the Bible off its entirety not just one small out of context story from the old testament which is essentially just copy Jewish holy text, also his daughters drugged him and raped him while he was out of it in that story as well. Him pushing his daughters at mob trying to rape the angels to protect them obviously isn't good nobody ever praised him for that the guy is a coward he should've stood up against the mob himself but again you took shit completely out of context from a part of the book that explains origins rather than what we actually follow/believe, the origin story is completely irrelevant to this subject and the teachings we as Christians follow. Edit 2: Damn why am I getting so much hate for explaining my fuckin religion they people being Bigots on the other hand are getting up votes what the fuck has this world come to shame on yall
wow what delusion.
Very cool fairy tale stories. Do you know the one about the man who slept with his daughters who were then ravaged by a mob of men? That Christianity?
Trumps best chance for avoiding prosecution is to get re-elected than squash the prosecutions where he can.
Which, from a practical perspective, is all of them.
Like, sure, he on paper can't do anything about state charges and Georgia could sentence him to state prison, but then he just... won't go and no one could make him.
There is ZERO chance he drops out. His mental state will not allow it.
Back when I used to have some use for the republican party, I would say for sure he should drop out. But in this day and age, I hope the Republicans lose every seat possible.
Without having read every comment here, this one hits the nail on the head.
The GOP is like a lost cause right now. There are three groups of people in it (meaning elected officials) 1) Trump groupies who are absolutely insane and shouldn't be allowed to be a third grade milk monitor; 2) some semi-moderate ones who are petrified of losing their seats if they don't show total loyalty to Trump; and 3) the smallest group, those who basically are just doing what they can as if nothing weird is going on. (An example of that third group might be James Langford who authored the border bill that Trump killed.)
The only way the GOP gets back to normal is a total and complete annihilation at election time over the next couple of years. Only then can those would put country over party gain control. One such person to watch is the former Lt. Gov of Georgia, Geoff Duncan who said despite policy disagreements, he's voting for Biden.
People like him will pick up the pieces of the GOP in a few years- unless this country is truly stupid enough to put Trump and his cult in charge again this November.
That's certainly doesn't hit the nail on the head.
At this point in the election cycle I'm just going to assume that all of these questions about dropping out from either side are propaganda, because it has never happened before and will not happen this year end of story.
Yes! OMFG please. I'm fucking begging.
Are these rhetorical questions
Cause I’m not seeing the point of the questions. I’m not meaning to be rude. I’m genuinely asking. Because this is Reddit, and the obvious answers will be yes, and no.
Come on, man. This is just as noncredible as the "why doesn't Biden step down" trolls
Trump has no motivation to drop out. It's not like he's going to admit losing if he loses, and the retribution he can lay out if he wins keeps him warm at night
What SHOULD Trump do? An incomplete list:
Comical, but not factual.
There is no way in Hell Trump will end his campaign.
Whatever made you question Trump's intent to pardon himself when he becomes President again?
Trump is literally fighting for his freedom from prosecution and jail.
I say that because Trump knows he is guilty of all crimes lodged against him.
This is not just about him.
It's about what's best for the USA.
Not in his mind.
The idea of caring about anyone else simply can't occur to him. His mental illness prevents that even being possible.
Edit: To the shadowbanned reply - "no, you!" is not an argument.
And calling a calm statement of facts "blind rage" makes pretty clear that you're not engaging rationally here.
Trump does not give one shit about the USA, except that it's the best platform for his grift. If Russia offered a better platform for him, he'd be all about Russia.
He shouldn’t have ever ran: He really isn’t eligible to be president but nobody is man enough to tell him that.
I love it. All the politicians in Washington just didn't have the balls to tell him he was breaking the law the whole time. Good shit.
He obviously should and just plead guilty to all the things he’s obviously done and go to prison.
But he just as obviously won’t do any of that.
What are the top three things you think he's obviously done?
Let's just stop asking this. He's running, and he's probably winning. Lament the shitty 2-party system that led to it.
It'll be okay. Just like last time he'll lower taxes, protect the border, and not start any new wars.
He never should have run in the first place, considering he's one of the worst candidates you could possibly imagine.
However, at this point, the idea that he would even consider dropping out is well outside the realm of possibility.
At this point, we don't have any good candidates. Our country is going to shit every day and I don't even know if it can be saved by anyone at this rate.
What the hell are these questions?!
No. Donald Trump will never step aside while he is breathing. Not only is he far too much of a narcissist blowhard to do so, but winning the Presidency again so he can pardon himself may be the only way he avoids prison.
And that controversial NYT poll this week shows him winning. Why on Earth would he drop out when he's likely ahead? Why does anyone think he would?
The real question is why does anyone believe polls anymore.
I got a chuckle out of it. OP is obviously simply flipping the script. There is more honesty to OP's question than the ones regarding Biden over the last two months.
Yes. No.
Him running for the presidency is the only thing keeping him out of jail at the moment.
He should have stepped aside after the indictments. Any true patriotic American would do that.
Is that why Mayorkas is still going in every day???
He should have resigned…he has lied and lied and lied and then just refused to answer questions with a smirk on his face of “u can’t touch me”
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Trump has no reason to quit. He seems to defy gravity. He may just win. Even if he loses in November he stands to gain more by staying to the end.
He won’t drop out. He could win. It will all depend on a few swing states, and he’s currently way ahead in Nevada and Georgia. Scary shit.
He should, but It’s alarming that someone who tried to overthrow democracy is allowed to have a campaign in the first place. He belongs in a jail cell not a presidential race.
He had 3 wives and cheated on all of them. He had 1 term as POTUS and cheated to overthrow democracy. Maga needs to learn from Trump’s wives. Trump won’t be who he claims to be except for when he (repeatedly)tells us he’s a supervillain. Maga thinks Trump is their own supervillain, devoted to their interests. I bet Trump’s wives all thought the same thing.
It seems unbelievable that a person convicted of multiple frauds, convicted of sexual assault, and under indictment for stealing top secret documents and election fraud could run for President, but that is where we are today.
Of course Trump shouldn't be allowed to run, and of course he won't drop out. Trump has to win so he can corruptly terminate the indictments against him, he needs to run to keep the enormous grift going, and he wants revenge. And wrecking the US election and justice systems makes Putin happy.
As a candidate, it seems he’s given up trying to win new votes. It’s apparent if you can stomach listening to his rants. As a con-man however, the grift has been wildly successful and although it seems to be dwindling, it’s still producing profit so no, he should continue to fleece his flock until he dies and is resurrected by his disciples.
He will not drop out. He won't even concede if he loses on Nov 5. Trump is facing jail unless he becomes President again. There is absolutely no incentive for him to drop out
No way. Becoming President again is the only way for him to escape most of these felony indictments. They all go away if he wins. The only thing that can be done is the house can impeach him again, but his loyalists in the Senate will not remove him.
A lot of people seem to think if he is convicted of a felony, he can’t run for president anymore. There is nothing in US law that stipulates that a felon can’t be president. If they’re 34 or younger they can’t be president, and if they were born outside the US they can’t be president. But felons can be president.
Dude could die on the toilet and Fox News and his mouth breathing followers would never believe and the Dumps would never end his campaign.
Becoming president again is the ONLY way he can stop himself from along these lawsuits and become dictator forever.
We already have a dictator. We just need a new one!
Of course he should. No lresident has been under investigation as much as this man. All these felony indictments has never happened before. We know he’s a crook, he knows he’s a crook, but he’s good at playing people.
He has a way of drawing out of people their inner racist, their inner bigotry. So yes, he will absolutely continue to run for president.
This sets a new precedent. It is the reason Presidents have immunity from prosecution. It is the same reason the pharmaceutical companies were given exemption from liability pertaining to the vaccine. Lets just wait and see how long it takes to take Biden to court over his withdrawal from Afghanistan. And, ask yourself this
Do you really think it is plausible to believe it is just a mere coincidence that after Bragg passed on “the case” 5 years ago, and the Feds did too (which is who should and would be prosecuting”the case”) And then, just after Trump announced he would run again, ALL of a sudden, decides to bring these charges, that we still are not sure what they are. Ohhh wait, let’s not forget, the judge is a Biden donor, and the judge’s daughter is raising money for the Dems…..no clear conflict of interest there, right??
Then, you have the property case. Never have ever charged anybody, ever with the crime, which is based on market, opinion, buyer, seller. If I say I believe my house is worth 1.5 million on my application for a home equity loan. Most of you already know where I am going with this… The loan institution sends out an appraiser (they don’t take my word for it) and when their review is finished, they give me their number of what it is worth and the loan is based on that. Banks didn’t bring the case. They testified they liked doing g business with him.
You are completely blind if you do not know the FACT findings:
FAKE RUSSIAN dossier (paid for by clinton)
Hunter’s laptop top (covered up by FBI,CIA when they knew it was his)
Biden bragging on record they out together the most extensive and thought out voter fraud system But we are to believe that was a slip Of the tongue
He also bragged publicly about blackmailing Ukraine with money from our country, only if they fired the main investigator into his son’s employer, and in his words “guess what? “They fired him”
I know they do not teach critical thinking anymore and wish most people were unable to but there is NO way any reasonable, logically thinking person could EVER vote for him.
Lets just wait and see how long it takes to take Biden to court over his withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Based on all currently available evidence, there's no coherent case to be made that anything criminal happened there.
He also bragged publicly about blackmailing Ukraine with money from our country, only if they fired the main investigator into his son’s employer, and in his words “guess what? “They fired him”
Nope. You have a mixed up account of what happened that disregards that events in the future cannot cause events in the past because time is a thing.
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You didn't successfully make one. It's just conspiracy nut word salad.
Precedent. I know it is difficult to understand. Look it up
It doesn't set a bad precedent to prosecute a former President who committed a shit ton of actual crimes, stuff that is plainly illegal by US law. That's actually a good precedent.
He’s leading in many swing state poles and if the election was held today he’d be favored to win.
Why would he drop out?
People forget that Covid happened on his watch. All the inflation and supply chain disruptions we are still clawing out from originated from Trump's Covid. You don't see any Covids happening under Biden. He killed Covid. Probably mainly the result of his wife since she is a doctor.
Got the biggest eyeroll out of me today.
Ha! Mission accomplished then. It was a joke post. OP flipped the script that trolls have been using for the last two months asking if Biden will drop out for this or that. I had to make my contribution. The amount of people posting serious responses to a baited question is disturbing.
He has a good chance of winning and it's dumb to think otherwise.
Like it or not, most people are worse off economically than they were under trumps term that's what matters to a lot of voters.
Now I don't blame Biden for stuff like inflation. He doesn't make monetary or fiscal policy and didn't appoint Powell. Inflation is also a global issue with a global rate that has been higher than ours since the beginning of 2022. The US dollar is also up foreign exchange wise versus virtually any currency you can think of. There's also countries with balanced budgets like Iceland with worse inflation, even if I thought inflation was from deficit spending he really doesn't make the budget either. I also don't blame him for gas prices (especially when we are producing a record amount of oil.)
In short, I think the whole "Bidennomics caused inflation" thing is a pretty smooth brained take. But people do vote based on things like this. Saying Trump doesn't have a chance is just putting your head in the sand. Most voters aren't going to look that deep into the economy or read the 64 lawsuits filed after the 2020 election to see how bad the lies he told actually were. Nor will they realize how damaging these lies actually were to our nation.
We are worse than we were 4 years ago with people dying from COVID? That's rich.
The country is doing MUCH better than 4 years ago. This is pretty obvious.
Do you do your own grocery shopping?
worse off than we were four years ago.
Um…I know a lot of the Covid damage was unavoidable but this is very much not the case
Like it or not most people are worse off than they were 4 years ago
Four years ago, May 2020?
When our economy was in free fall, we were all watching daily case numbers, daily deaths, schools were closed, nursing homes were closed, and no end was in sight? When, as we learned later, our government was literally trying to kill us, doing absolutely everything possible to keep the disease spreading?
If you think you are worse off today, you need to see a psychiatrist immediately.
Biden has a good chance of winning, and we had to answer the question about him that you're now calling dumb three days ago
He's also running on a platform to destroy democracy.
He isn’t ending shit with the latest poll numbers showing he’s ahead the margin of error. Why would he? Biden needs to make up some serious ground but they don’t even care that they are losing in every major poll in every swing state except WI and that is concerning as fuck. I really hope they stop acting in denial and start pandering to voters while there is still time
That is exactly what has me concerned!!
The fact they are not concerned at all, based on the polls of how badly he is performing across the board, makes me wonder if they know something we don’t?
I have tried to out myself in the position as if, this were my main man, based on the situation, I don’t believe I would keep him. It really comes down to hating Trump, in my opinion. They hate their country more than they hate him which is crazy, cause it is really self hate…this will affect you!
Biden isn't getting primaried by someone who isn't running.
Maybe Biden should have been actually accomplishing something and he wouldn't have to be pandering to anybody because his record would speak for itself. I personally think it's too late for him and Trump's going to walk away with this thing. Maybe an even earlier night than when he trounced Clinton.
What kinda Walmart bleach are you drinking?
Maybe Biden should have been actually accomplishing something and he wouldn't have to be pandering to anybody because his record would speak for itself.
Actually accomplishing something?
In all seriousness, what hasn't he done?
Saved our democracy and finally got our government fighting COVID instead of spreading it.
Fantastically good on the economy.
Fantastically good on protecting rights.
Fantastically good on rebuilding and improving our infrastructure.
Fantastically good on restoring our credibility abroad and leading the world.
He's literally saved all of our lives. What more do you want?
Can't tell if your joking or not
If you've lived through the last eight years, you should be able to tell pretty easily.
I'm guessing you're a work from home programmer or something because you're the only demographic these years have been kind to. And in your narrow vision, these years have indeed been tailor-made for you. The rest of us that don't instacart, we actually see all the prices at the store so it is easy to understand how they might have missed your gaze.
The economy is shit and our jobs are being sent or taken by other nations. Everything is way too expensive. The American Dream is dead. We have freeloaders breaking into our country demanding things we as Americans don't receive.
The economy is shit
By literally any measure you can name, from wage growth to the labor participation rate, the economy is doing better than it's been in decades, even surpassing the boom years of the 90s. You would have to be exceedingly aged to say the economy isn't the best it's been in your lifetime.
So that's simply factually incorrect. Without that, what exactly are your complaints?
our jobs are being sent or taken by other nations.
The biggest problem our economy has right now is a labor shortage. There are far more jobs than there are people to fill them.
So, again, demonstrably factually incorrect.
It seems a great deal of your anger stems from believing things that aren't true. A lot of people spend a lot of time trying to persuade people that things are terrible when they are emphatically not. Perhaps you should stop listening to them?
We have freeloaders breaking into our country demanding things we as Americans don't receive.
Such as? What is it you want that you aren't getting? What is it others are getting that you are jealous of?
He is the front runner to win the presidential election? Why would he drop out?
As of today, he is 1% ahead, and our polling is deeply flawed.
Check Vegas odds killa, it’s way better predictor
wishful thinking because they know this election is his to lose.
What wishful thinking? That he is favourite to win?
He is not the front runner. Polls are not accurate. Polls don’t get to many under 21 y.o. And most of them won’t be voting for the MAGAts that want a nationwide ban on abortion. The abortion issue affects this group of voters greatly. Sorry, Trump won’t be winning the election. Republicans dug their own grave w/ Roe v Wade getting overturned by the MAGAt majority Supreme Court.
Keep on telling yourself that. I think young people care more about the fact that biden is arming israel, helping them commit a genocide.
No one thinks that Trump wouldn't also do that
If he has no chance of winning why would Dems so desperately want him to end his campaign? It looks like they would do everything in their power to keep him in the race.
He seems to have about a 50/50 chance of winning right now.
Why should Trump quit when he is ahead in many polls. Better question is do you think RFK should end his campaign before the election given his small polling numbers.
I think trumps gonna win. The lawfare used against him made him a martyr for many on that side of the isle. All the poling I've seen has the Republicans just about unified in their support for trump. Biden has tons of democrats promising to either not vote or vote 3rd party. Many in the middle seem to be remembering the good old days when we werent mired in bunch of wars and depressed about the economy, inflation.
I'm not at all sure that swing voters are keen on abandoning democracy.
The rest of what you claim here has no evidence to back it up.
The lawfare used against him
The kind of person who believes this was already only ever going to vote Republican.
The only thing that will end his campaign will be his death. And even then, I suspect he'll recieve a not insignificant amounts of votes.
I do worry about the whole Clintonide scenario. They are getting desperate now….
Yes. He should. It would be better for everyone, and also be very funny.
No. He won't. Running is giving him a lot of cover from his many criminal trials and letting him fundraise relatively unhindered.
As long as he is able, he will never drop out. He doesn't make pragmatic calculations, he does not care what happens to the GOP or the nation at large. He only cares about the glory of being in the spotlight, at any costs.
He is utterly shameless, and so even if he were to be found guilty in a criminal trial, he would campaign from jail and continue to assail the justice system as allegedly corrupt.
Yes, he should. No, he won’t. His future freedom depends solely on being re-elected. He cares more about his own fat diapered ass than he does about the country, so he’ll never take responsibility. All he’s capable of doing is hurling insults, lies, and projection. Every accusation is a confession.
no because there is no better option since most republicans will vote for him if he doesn’t run lmao. no.
Do you even watch the news or pay attention at all? How could you possibly think him dropping out is even a remote possibility?
I think I've explained why.
He'll never drop out - too much money to be made to pay his legal "expenses", and if just a few thousand Dems decide to punish Biden for not ending the bloodshed in Gaza. he'll get another 4 years to remake America in his image and likeness.
Isn't he ahead of biden as of the latest polls?? Why would he drop out when his opponent is losing so much ground?
He's ahead by a single point.
In primary voting, he's vulnerable.
His base is fractured.
In all honesty, they don't care if he drops out or not. He won't. He gets air time by screaming that everything in the USA is corrupt.
He will lose and when he does the gop will get to spend 4 more years benefitting from a good administration while also lying and saying it's bad. They can't legislate so they just whine and shout and whine and shout. They get paid to do nothing. So they don't care if he loses, really.
It's too late. Republicans have made their bed, now they have to sleep in it.
According to Mail Online he’s surging in the polls so I doubt he’ll drop out of true.
He's ahead by 1 point at 270 to win.
Primary voting is far more telling.
Republicans are divided, and some will not vote for him.
No, absolutely not. He is up against Joe Biden, unless Hilary comes back this is his best shot at winning again. If he loses, plenty of excuses for why, might even be more beneficial to lose the election that drop out. Dropping out is submission, accepting defeat. Staying in and losing means you were cheated by corruption and the shadow government, you're a hero for trying.
Gotta think like him and his base to understand goals and purpose. This is an obvious question.
He is up by one point.
And Republicans are divided in primary voting.
No. there are only two bad choices for president. let citizens decide which is the less bad choice.
In b4 Biden is out and everyone of you pretends that you always expected this
"Continues to lose"? Not so much. But I have to ask have you seen the rallies? 80,000 people in New Jersey for instance? Biden rallies under 100 ppl? Trump has a massive advantage. This is something the MSNBC people don't understand. The legal system has been weaponized to destroy his campaign, and they're trying to keep him tied up as much as possible, so I don't think he'll be able to end his campaign until the election. What's hard for me to understand is how people can see the government throwing everything they can at him, people funding lawsuits from anyone who wants to try it, cases being closed left and right, many being held open just to cause political damage. The truth is if the legal system went after anybody as hard as they've gone after Trump, that person would probably be in prison by now. Imagine the legal system going after George Bush for the murder of millions of Iraqis. Or going after Biden for the incompetent debacle in Afghanistan. It's not difficult to see at all.
Nikki Haley got 22% of the vote in Indiana, and she's not even running.
This is a serious problem for Donald.
This is Live Aid in Philadelphia with 89,000 people present:
https://cdn10.phillymag.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/07/live-aid-oral-history.jpg
And this is Live Aid in London with 72,000:
It is completely false that 100,000 people were were on that beach.
And Trump organized the surrender in Afghanistan.
You would know all of this if you weren't watching Fox News.
And people are tired of bald-faced lies being told by Donald and his supporters.
Why? He is ahead in all the polls. The hush money trial is falling apart and the other indictments have problems with them.
Look at his N.J. Rally. There was over 100k at it. It is more than what Obama had and Biden can not even get 1k.
Maybe Biden should quit. He cannot get any momentum going.
Are you talking about the New Jersey rally at a venue with a max capacity of 20,000 that drew 100,000 people to a Rod Stewart concert in Rio thirty years earlier? That New Jersey rally?
There was over 100k at it.
Allegedly, but this doesn't matter because for every person who would go to that, there are at least ten normal people (and yes, some of them Republicans) who would not be caught dead at a political rally but vote.
Why would he drop out when there's been two different polls that show him in the lead in almost every battleground state and the 538 poll average shows him up by a point as a Republican.
Because primary voting>polls
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