There were 0 hints of her having haki. And now all of a sudden she can use it. Bonney is the worst written charater out of the supernova
SpoilerAre you having fun?🤡Exactly for whatever reason half the crew doesn’t have the most basic form of haki it’s ridiculous
I also felt like most of the crew not having Haki kind of gives mixes messages and devaluates it for me. On one hand, the story makes it a point how so many high tier characters in the new world have Haki like it's almost a requirement to stand a chance and some characters have multiple forms of it and been training for years to get proficient.
But then you have the straw hats with multiple members not having it and they're doing fine so it makes me ask "so is Haki important or not? Is only a small handful of Haki users needed to carry a whole crew?"
Imagine the perspective of another pirate crew that for years has been training to become proficient at Haki and then a random crew comes out the woodwork and not only survives with only a few users but becomes a yonko crew.
you have the straw hats with multiple members not having it and they're doing fine so it makes me ask "so is Haki important or not?
Robin and Franky only won against the Tobi Roppo cuz they conveniently forgot to use haki in the fight lol ( even though Black Maria was shown using haki on Sanji but didn't use it on robin,and all the other Tobi Roppos like Ulti, Who's Who and Page 1 who are on the same tier have it too)
Oda will nerf characters or buff them depending on what convenient for the plot. Nami and Usopp are regular humans with no haki, there is no explanation for them surviving haki hits to the skull from a literal dinosaur. Straw hats are only doing fine because they have plot armor.
Why did Saturn not his eye abilities or armament haki or poison on the coward trio? Cuz he forgor
The same way big meme forgot to use haki vs law and kidd
big meme
There is no reason for Nami to survive haki hits to the skull, usopp on the other hand survived a two ton bat to the face, he's no regular human oda is just a fool
two ton bat still not the same as 2 haki headbutts from a dinosaur
and that was still an asspull imo. How can usopp survive a 3 ton bat in the first place when he was a regular human
well tbf luffy, zoro, sanji, jinbe alone is enough to destroy 90% of pirates/marines on the new world, but i agree with you it's so bullshit that robin, franky and brook don't have haki it's like oda forget about the shp.
just give robin, franky, brook, chopper BASIC armament and give nami basic observation, it literally won't do harm to the stories.
since dresrossa ive always want blackbeard to heavily injured the bums straw hats so they realize that they need to get stronger and stop being a burden to luffy + the new monster trio
Honestly not having haki isn't that bad imo but what Oda should do is make sure that whatever fighting styles and quirks the Strawhats use, be comparable to having haki, yk what I mean. Like nami for example, no way in hell will she ever use haki but now she has zeus which should be a massive power upgrade for her comparable to her having haki and not zeus. Another would be chopper Oda should make it so that whenever chopper fights using his medical knowledge it actually is broken so much so that not having haki isn't a factor anymore.
Just wait for the SBS where Oda talks about Franky installing a Haki Generator that runs on lemonade
Im down
That'd actually be pretty funny.
That's the kind of One Piece humor that makes me laugh. Not all this forced Nika bullshit that people are eating up.
The stupid nonsensical stuff like how drinking milk immediately heals up Luffy and Brook, that's classic One Piece jokes. That feels like Luffy to me, not cartoon eyes and hijinks.
Unironically I'd be totally fine with this. It'd be one of those "technology leveling the playing field" type of things.
Like how Batman and Iron man might not have powers but they have intelligence and equipment to let them trade blows and even beat people that are stronger/ have powers.
Does that mean most straw hats have no ambition? Nami is just bumming around?
I just made a post doubling down on my critisizm of haki
this one was on oda's biggest fuckups. right after zoro coats his sword in haki for the first time, 100 nameless fodder marines with generic swords haki up like nothing.
Pretty sure this wasn’t in the manga, just a toei thing
How so? Marines literally trained their entire life, or a lot of them have. Armament haki can be learned along with the right trainer, which the marines would most definitely have.
Idk why this bothers people. Haki wasnt visible to the viewer until the timeskip. And their coats indicate they are at least captain ranked. Makes sense that they can use haki
Ironically she isn't even youngest haki user, since aisa from skypiea had mantra, which is observation haki, as an infant
also doflamingo was a kid who used conqueror's
Conquerors is genetic. Armament and observation are not.
Conqueror is not genetic. Neither Doflamingo’s dad nor brother had it.
That’s not how genetics work 💀 blue eyes are genetic but you can have blue eyes despite both your parents and all your siblings having brown eyes
Man conflated genetics with the statement "the chosen few." Because your genetics are chosen.
They still aren’t genetic, let me remind you this is a magical bullshit power not something biological, it’s destiny not genetics
Conquerors is explained as something one is born with, like when you say that someone is a natural born leader. The other guy has 0 knowledge of what genetics is, dumb fucker
Rayleigh said people are born with it. So yeah it seems like drawing a lottery, either you have it or you dont. Loda gives it to whoever he wants.
i mean sure but roger and ace have it, big mom and katakuri have it, kaido and yamato have it, garp, probably dragon, and luffy have it
don chinjao has it, what is even hus destiny
He still used it though
Who cares about who has Haki or not at this point
fckn new world fodder has it but determined af people like Brook and Franky don‘t
Franky does as of this chapter
Was it not confirmed that he does not?
confirmed by the leaker iirc, so not by anyone with more info than us
I read the leaker confirmed that Franky doesn't have Haki based on the way it's phrased in the original text
Did you read the chapter yet? Luffy says it hurts when they all hit him because they all use haki.
Franky also called the move "Impactful Strong Right", so a stronger version of his usual move - Luffy renames his moves as well when he adds haki. That doesn't have to mean anything obviously, just an observation.
It feels weird. If this is Franky's first time using Haki, why is it just as part of a whole group?
Wouldn't Oda give Franky a spotlight? Does he hate Franky?
Franky is so him he didmt need it to whop his Ops. Real gang shit (Holy fuck I'm coping like a mother fucker)
Franky thrashing Mr. Pink with haki in his back pocket the whole time… so manly
Maybe it's Odas way of trying to just sneak haki into the SHs that haven't been shown using it, yet.
im just guessing luffy was only referring to sanji and bonney using it, i dont see a reason why franky would suddenly use it after 600 chapters and we wouldn't even see the coating
he never says they all used haki, he just said "you guys are using haki" wich doesn't necessarily include franky
No, he doesn't. Only Bonney and Sanji used it.
this is the main issue of the other shp, it's like oda forget about them.
robin, brook, franky is a 300m+ pirates, core crew + commanders of an emperor and yet they don't even know BASIC armament, it's ridiculous.
Bro is asking foreshadowing for basic armament 💀
Literally every fodder new world pirate has it. Mfs here will always find something new to complain about without fail.
Everyone but 6 straw hats have it. Even Bellamy and fodder marines back in dressrosa were going at it with the birdcage with armament.
The marines was filler but Bellamy of course had jt
Honestly I'm glad Brook and Franky don't have it, the haji effects makes the attacks look so ass when its anyone but Zoro
Stop coping and doing this pathetic damage control.
"Every fodder new world pirate has it". I guess Brook is worse than fodder then. And so was Franky until this chapter.
Yes. Oda is a coward for waiting this long to give them haki. Basic armament isn’t supposed to be a big deal.
Franky didn't use Haki.
It'd be idiotic if he started using it out of nowhere despite not using it once since the Time Skip if he had it all along.
We aint sure the way luffy say YOU guys used haki that sus af
what's sus, 2 people using haki = you guys, literally only if you really want franky to have haki you would argue otherwise, like Oda coat 2 people with black CoA but not franky in the same scene?
Yeah, we know Sanji learned Haki and we have seen Bonney entire hand being coated in Armament while Franky's hand looked normal.
Franky suddenly starting to use Armament out of nowhere 13 years after the TS where there were no hints that he had Haki or even unlocked it in the arcs ever since is simply just bad writing.
Franky got Haki?
Lol yes they are worse than fucking fodder. there isnt a situation where over half of luffys crew shouldnt have shown basic damn haki by now
you shouldnt be complaining how Bonney has it, cuz literal fodder marines do.
brook and robin dont have it,thats what you should be complaining about.
To be fair she is 12 years old. Have we seen kids use it? Doffy? Ace maybe ?
Little girl in skypeia used mantra which we now know was actially haki
Yeah don’t get this one everyone should have basic haki
Even someone who's supposed to be 12? Why didnt luffy,zoro,ace,sabo, anyone else not use it then? It's so dumb to make her already be able to use haki at 12.
Because this specific 12 year old was a pirate for two years fighting not training so the likelihood of her having haki is high
Yeah no, the shs have been fighting against monsters and there's half of them who dont got shit also still doesnt change the fact she's 12 and we have no clue what she did for 2 yrs just cuz kid and law were fighting since the timeskip it doesnt mean bonney was. There is no good excuse as to why she can use haki and nami/franky/brook etc cant oda is just a moron.
Oda is a moron
Glad we agree on that. Ngl i still cant believe after all of the new world up to now all the shs dont have haki.
Ahe's a 12 year old running around in the body of a 20 year old, and she's been sailing the seas about as long as luffy has been. And much like liffy she obtain supernova status
All the fodder but there's Frankie and Robin with nothing.
Cant make this shit up 😭
Basic marines in dressrosa hadhaki ;p
Fr 😭 acting like she could Emeterio the grand lane without it
No, he asked why she didn’t use it against Saturn. Or against kizaru. Or against the vice admiral. Or at any other time it would’ve helped.
She's 12
Age has never been a factor for haki, Doffy used conqueror's at 10
Conquerors is genetic, it's different.
Asia (skypia arc) was 9 years old and had somewhat strong observation haki.
“Somewhat strong” Aisa was literally canonically born capable of using Observation Haki
Conquerors is not genetics, it’s a mindset
Cope
You have no proof it’s genetic and I have all the proof that it’s a mindset retard
And has been living as a wanted pirate who has been squaring up with marines on the regular for 2 of those years
Who cares that kid in skypia had strong observation haki
So children can use observation and conquerers haki but bonney a supernova whos been a pirate for over 2 years can't use BASIC Armanent haki?
This fan base is so stupid oh my god
Conquerors haki can be used accidently without control, same for observation. No one ever used armament by accident. Yes this fan base is sometimes stupid, you're a good example of that. And how does Bonney using armament make more sense than Franky or Robin having it? But nooo surely a lonely twelve year old obviously masters haki out of nowhere and also more than half of Luffy's crew who should I remind you is supposed to be a Yonko crew?? And somehow she also instantly masters the Nika powers
"Masters"
She did a basic punch with armament haki punch while in her fake Nika form and was completely useless afterwards
But yeah, for the sake of someone as stupid as you, we will say she mastered those powers
And no, nobody is saying that Franky or Robin shouldn't have haki but saying bonney shouldn't have haki is just as stupid as saying they shouldn't she's been a pirate just about as long as luffy has.
And again it's BASIC armament if some random marines and beast pirates can learn it bonney sure as hell could
Didn't Oda confirm at some point that all members of the worst generation have basic armament and observation haki?
even if it wasnt confirmed i would assume it to be true, given how she is a worst gen. Thats like the bare minimum i am expecting given how she turned doll into a child. Basic marines in dressrosa had haki, fodder ass Gifters in Kaido's army had haki
You shouldn't be surprised Bonney has it, you should be surprised Robin doesn't. Y'all got shit twisted.
even if she wasn't a worst gen or a captain, she's a new world pirate of course she has haki, only mfs whitout haki on the new world are the strawhats
This subreddit becoming more and more 🤡
Always has been
Its been that way since its inception
She's a supernova obviously she has Haki.
No Haki feats for over 1000 chapters only for her to go G5 Luffy and bust out a Haki attack that hurts the actual G5 Luffy is nuts.
You gotta admit that, right?
There’s so many characters we obviously assume have haki despite not giving us anything to show for it. Bonney is a supernova captain who survived the grand line for two years, it’d be more surprising if she didn’t.
Lmao not necessarily
Wdym? Almost all worst gen members have haki
Blackbeard has never been confirmed by narrator to have Haki so he doesn’t. He’s a fraud!
Key words: "by tha narrator"
He was being sarcastic
Read my comement again, I never said that he believed that.
I'm a wee bit of a jackals you see
I keep forgetting about Blackbeard being a worst gen. Was that confirmed or a fan thing?
The supernova and worst Gen are very slightly different groups of people. The supernova are the rookies with high bounties introduced in Sabaody, the worst generation is the supernova + Blackbeard.
‘Supernova’ isn’t a term the general public in the world uses but ‘worst generation’ is. The name stuck because so many powerful pirates entered the scene and made a name for themselves at the same time.
My biggest criticism with this naming sheme is that even though he came from basically nothing to becoming a warlord of the sea - Buggy is not considered a member of the worst generation. I’m pretty sure the public would consider him one logically.
I think the thing with Buggy was that he became famous post Marineford whereas the rest become famous before
He does
He can turn his hands black because he’s made out of darkness - we don’t know for sure that’s Haki - it’s not confirmed until Oda comes to my house and tells me in person.
/uj
Are we cooking? Both haki and yami yami negate fruit powers (kinda). 🤨
What a dumb post
Did you have the same problem when Kid used haki? Killer? Hawkins?
She's a pirate deep in the new world, of couse she has basic haki
Next chapter she’s gonna use acoc
This subreddit has divulged into just random hating. I was enjoying the fraud Oda posts cause they actually had good points. Now we getting posts like this lmao. Why are we surprised a Supernova pirate captain has basic Armament Haki??? lmaooo
nah this is insane levels of hating. If anything other supernovas would be poorly written if they're goddamn supernovas and after 2 years in the new world those bums still hadn't unlocked basic haki
"There were 0 hints of him having haki. And now he can use it. Law is the worst written charater out of the supernova"
"There were 0 hints of him having haki. And now he can use it. Kid is the worst written charater out of the supernova"
"There were 0 hints of him having haki. And now he can use it. Apoo is the worst written charater out of the supernova"
You can do this with almost any Haki user because we only see a few of them learn it on panel, it's a stupid argument.
Why does someone need a hint before presenting haki? She's a worst gen member that has made it this far into the New World without relying on a captain or something else powerful to get this far. She isn't random fodder. If random-ass vice admirals can have haki with almost no explanation other than "because their job requires it", then what explanation does Bonney need?
This entire post is ridiculous, pretty much every other worst gen member including Apoo has haki, not sure why people complain that Bonney has it as well
cuz people here love to hate it not even funny anymore
"Her DF cant give her skills or haki" copers found dead
Chihiro No 😭
Or she, hear me out, just had haki
why would the haki come from her fruit (tho its possible) she's a supernova she probably had haki since way before
Why the hell do you need to have a hint that someone can use basic armament y’all just find a way to bitch about anything just drop the series atp
0 hints of her having haki
As opposed to the extensive foreshadowing we got that Law had armament haki before he used it
dont you remember the foxy anime filler scene about water god Tika? that's obviously foreshadowing for law
forshadowing won't make a thing better or worse
Please just quit the series at this point. Asking for base armament to be foreshadowed. JFC
"BUT HAKI!!!" coping powerscalers need to del their accounts at this point
New world captain who’s a supernova not being able to use basic armament haki would be even worse
Nika punch 💀💀💀
I'm a little behind, but can't she make her body be what ever she wants? So make it hard and black or something
she nika'd all over us
I don't think basic armament haki needs a big setup when characters like Tashigi have it and it's not always visible, but if you want something, then in chapter 1092 Bonney tries to attack Kizaru and he dodges it instead of just standing still and letting it phase through him, so it could mean she was already using haki there.
her having it is fine i mean brother shes a captain of a crew in the new world AND part of the supernovas
You guys are still shoked of supernovas having haki after it was shown that even fodders in Big Mom team having it?
Tbh... she is not a character and never was to begin was. She was randomly created and added to the story just because. And right now she is just the medium through which we got the Kuma backstory and more stuff about the CD and slavery, you could take her out of the story and nothing will change.
She would logically have atleast basic haki. Atleast in my prespective so it wasnt a big reveal or anything serious.
It was the most painful thing i've ever had to read. The cringe was actually unfathomable.
Legit i hope bonney dies
i genuinely hope she turns old and falls in the ocean and no one can save her she is worse than yamato and i didnt think that was conceivable
Yeah worse than yamato, didn't even think of that...
shes ruining egghead worse than yamato ruined wano so id say so
at least i have hope bonney will not come back after shes out....typing this and realized shes going to come back and turn yamato into nika too in the final war
Actually true. I absolutely despise the fact that she kinda comes out of nowhere in this arc and suddenly copies the retcon of luffy's fruit it's so...uninspired and lazy...
its so bad it comes off as intentional to me
oda is out of ideas. the systems in a series serve to limit the characters to cause meaningful power struggles. oda has decided there are no more meaningful power struggles and hes rushing the end by introducing more and more saitama style characters.
would've been better to have kept the powerscaling from marineford at this point
She is probably joining the crew, I don’t see what else they can do with her.
Current timeline Bonney: Can’t use Haki
Distorted future Nika fruit Bonney: Haki
I think that’s how it works and also probably why she was only able to sustain one punch
She tapped into unreality when:
She turned herself into a full blooded buccaneer like Kuma;
Turned herself into a real giant;
Turned herself into the owner of the awakened Nika fruit;
Turned Luffy momentarily into an alternate reality 70 year old self that didn’t reach his dreams;
Used non-haki Gear 3 like Enies Lobby Luffy.
Lol come on, thank god she has haki. She's a supernova captain in the New World, who had to survive on her own after BB destroyed her crew.
It never occured to me that maybe she doesn't have it.
Oh no, a new world pirate has arm-haki?!?!?! How could this be?!?!? It’s not like it’s been stated that it is a common ability among new world pirates and vice admiral!! Oh wait it has been. Y’all are reaching so hard like no shit she can use haki ur acting like it’s something that needs revealing
Bonney has become such a fanfiction character I'm expecting there to be a love triangle next
she is fucking 12
When did that ever stop them...
She's TWELVE
tbh who cares just enjoy the manga man
Remember when characters had to do gruelling training to get power-ups?
you cant complain about her having haki out of nowhere cuz thats how haki works that shit is just will power, and bonny is in her nika form, her will is off the charts, complain about the trash magic system that haki is
This is really some DR arc animation level attack, when they landed their hit and stay in mid air without move, pushing they attack furter.
The whole scene reminded me Tankman.
I'm glad one piece still gives me joy after all those years, even if it is a different kind of joy.
Its basic armament haki majority of nobodies in the new world have it.. Only people who need to get it are half the straw hats
Can we talk about how her attack is called "Giant Nika Punch."... for someone with a lot of imagination she didn't put a lot of effort into naming that
How does a 12 yrs old kid have arm haki w/o any training, nobody in her crew used haki so how does bonney magically manifest it?
I Hope yk thé strawhats thé outlier for being new world pirates WITHOUT haki
There’s no problem with Bonney having haki. The real issue is her turning into Nika.
Wait so it's my boy Wranky using haki officially cannon?
I think people are forgetting Rayleigh saying it normally takes 2+ years to learn basic haki. Haki isn't necessarily difficult to learn, it just takes a long period of dedicated training.
It's 'fine' that half the Strawhats (sans Robin) don't have it because they just didn't dedicate the time to learn it and they can't learn it between islands. I guess you could say Bonney trained for years immediately after becoming a pirate but uh... eh. The Bonney thing is egregious, but so would someone like Franky or Chopper just randomly using haki.
Dude she’s a supernova captain… you just searching for things to hate abt at this point
She's a Supernova, and a respectable New World pirate captain. Her first direct attack was at Saturn with the sword, which didn't work, so she decided to use Haki on this attack since Luffy said to use everything they had. It may be a subconscious thing as well, like a "Haki bloom" that was mentioned once and never again (I'm just coping at this point lmfao)
Idc about her suspectef every nova to to have it but he said you guys using haki is franky in this
It's not even a problem of she is having haki , she just mastered amendment haki out of nowhere while we never saw before her using in any fights
No. No she isn’t. Oda don’t need to give you hints, just like their were no hints for other lesser side characters. You’re just caught up on One Piece and have 2 weeks to complain about 1 chapter out of the 1000’s of bs back then that you just zoomed through.
What if Oda is trying to speedrun the reparations for the hate he receives for how he draws women.
oda spoiled the food
Anyone in One Piece can use armament or observation haki. You just have to learn it.
tf you mean hints its just armament everyone has it 😭😭😭 (except half the strawhats for some fucking reason)
If you thought for even a moment ANY of the supernovas post time skip didn't have Haki...Man just pick up a colouring book instead.
Are you fucking stupid she's in the New World and is a Supernova of course she can use Armament Haki
Dawg it’s basic armament who cares
What? Why the hell would she not have it? She made it to egghead deep in the paradise side of the new world.
Last I checked, this story revolved around the Straw Hats. This is like complaining over not knowing exactly how Roger got possession of Ace. The story at this point does have major issues but not knowing about Bonney using Haki previously isn't one of them. You have remember Oda didn't even know what Haki was pre-TS.
im getting worried the more i read the latest chapter. seems like oda is in a rush trying to tie things all together
I told everyone she was going to be broken, wait for the pirate king future she’s gonna be shanks lvl
To add on to all the other (correct) answers about how every fodder new worlder can use Haki: Bonney's power is, allegedly, that her fevil fruit can edit her future. Therefore, she's currently in a future where Luffy dies and she gets the Nika fruit, and probably part of that future would involve her training Haki
So just because we haven't seen her use Haki, doesnt mean she can't use it. Just means she may not have been in a situation where she needed to use it.
Who the fuck cares?
Yep, just destroys the work of those who trained and fought for years.
Isn't the entire point of her fruit to change who she and other people are for the better or worse?
This is kinda how haki works. One second you don’t have it the next you have it. Or is Luffy the worst character ever because he just showed haki all of the sudden in Marineford? Seriously it’s like you guys want to be angry about absolute nothing burgers. Shocker a character is using haki, how does that make them a bad character? We know that haki is connected to your own will and spirit so being strong willed WILL manifest haki at some point
She used her devilfruit to turn into Nika. Who is capable of using haki. She doesn't need to have learned haki herself to use it.
The real issue isn't bonney having it
It's the characters who DONT