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Born French🇲🇫, born British🇬🇧, immigrated to Canada 🇨🇦 Was born in London, England, United Kingdom 🏴🇬🇧
Born French🇲🇫, born British🇬🇧, immigrated to Canada 🇨🇦 Was born in London, England, United Kingdom 🏴🇬🇧
A tremendous trio. In my opinion, an AU or NZ passport completes this already wonderful set.
No US?
Only because of tax reasons, pal.
Either US or CA from that region and either an AU or NZ from that region.
TBH Australia has the better access to the US than Canada as the (Aussie only) E-3 visa is both LPR eligible and undersubscribed (so if an Aussie applies for it, the odds are damn good they’ll get it.). The TN visa for Canada isn’t directly LPR eligible, so you have to find a way to ‘visa hop’, (and is much more competitive than the E-3) though obviously it’s still a lot better than the access almost any other country gets.
Edit: I was incorrect/malinformed, the E-3 is not a ‘dual intent’ visa, so that is not an advantage it has over the TN.
Hi u/SeanBourne !
I never knew that E-3 Visa holders are eligible for US LPR.
I always thought both E-3 & TN holders had to find a way to ‘visa hop’ / adjust their status to be on their way to US LPR.
I'm now a bit confused, especially since I believed both E-3 & TN are non-immigrant/non-dual purpose visas and now I couldn't find any information on the web to confirm your comment / claim.
Do you mind sharing where did you find such info?
I'd love to look into it more deeply.
I highly appreciate all the help. Many Thanks!
Hmmm. I have spoken too soon - I based this on friends of friends having moved to the US and later gotten citizenship there. (I’m an American who moved to Australia… so new friends will typically bring up when someone in their circle moved to the US.)
Based on a bit of googling, there’s an odd dance that E-3 visa holders have to do - they can’t show ‘intent to immigrate’ during the approval/entrance process. They can keep renewing the E-3 for long periods of time… again as there’s not ‘intent to immigrate’. Apparently however, at some point down the track, they can ‘apply to adjust status’. It is very unclear if that means another visa, or what is going on here.
You are absolutely correct (and I was malinformed) that the E-3 is not a dual purpose visa.
My guess is that the E-3 holders who later gain LPR get a lawyer who deal with these ‘status adjustments’, and those lawyers make the case that initial intent was not to immigrate, but that life circumstances have changed, necessitating the application.
But again, I’m in speculative territory other than acknowledging that it’s not a dual purpose visa with an open route to immigrate.
That said, I was correct in my assumption that it is undersubscribed and that getting it approved is less of a crapshoot than other paths to enter the US.
Sorry if my earlier post raised your hopes falsely, and best of luck.
thanks u/SeanBourne for reply,
I still agree with you that E-3 is still much better deal than TN Visa:
1) Since E-3 main applicant/Aussie citizen's spouse will also get a work permit in the US regardless if s/he Aussie citizen, meanwhile spouses of TN Visa holder won't have a work permit.
2) E-3 visa holder can start a company - just like a H1 visa holder. But both can not work for their company, and can not receive active income from it, meanwhile TN visa does not allow you to start a business in the USA and work for that business.
3) I'm not sure about which list of TN vs E-3 eligible jobs is wider and easier to get but I think for TN visa you must have a college degree and for some of E-3 jobs you might be eligible just with a high school diploma + experience .
4) If E-3 holders can make a case with a lawyer to ‘status adjustments’ due to life circumstances have changed, I think TN visa holder should be able to do the same.
5) TN visa is renewed every 3 years, meanwhile E-3 every 2 years which is slightly worse experience.
Just to let you know, there is no FOM agreement between the U.S. and Canada. So Canadian citizenship doesn’t really give you access to the largest economy in the world all that much. Just B-2 access granted instantly after being admitted entry into the U.S.
True, but perhaps there should be an FOM agreement between the US and Canada.
There should be and unironically Canadians should be advocating for it cuz they’d benefit much more than we would.
Most Canadians would benefit more, yes. The problem is that a few well connected Canadians benefit from the protectionist policies that would suffer with an FOM. It’s in many ways a captive market.
Lmao true.
Yea, we’ll see what the longer term future holds.
I know that, pal. I merely said that I'd want one passport of the two.
Sure but are you sure that U.S. citizenship wouldn’t be much value add as opposed to a AU/NZ one?
Dude there’s no need to be a salesman for the USA; people are often looking for different things in life, for a lot of people, they have no desire to live in the USA or have its passport, and that’s fine.
That guy sleeps with his US passport every night.
He has already unlocked North America with his Canadian passport. I'd want to focus my attention on Oceania and unlock that with an AU or NZ passport.
I'm a girl.
I’ve already went over this. How exactly has he unlocked North America with just a Canadian passport? There is no FOM between the U.S. and Canada.
Unlike an EU / EEA / CH passport and FOM there or between AU/NZ and the trans Tasmania agreement.
That first sentence? Who are you, my father?
I don't have to explain any more than I already have and that is. I''d want a passport from each region. I'm not interested in FOM as you clearly are obsessed about.
Finito.
Then citizenship based taxation should be even less an issue if you just want a passport from each region lol.
What on earth are you on about