Am I cooked?

Hi everyone! I am the same guy who recently asked if I can still worship God with hymns using violin as my voice but I have a much much bigger problem than that today (or the biggest should I say)

As many of you may know, orthodoxy isn't known much here in the Philippines and the orthodox churches are still not bloomy or like spread out and that's my number one problem. Second is, I received a 2 hour rap battle with my mom (with my parents actually but my mom was the most furious) as I prepared for weeks and told her earlier that I want to convert and she said I am not converting because I am already in the truth. My brothers and sisters this deepens my sorrow even more because I learnt that salvation is exclusive in the Orthodox church only and here I am, a bornagain 17 year old boy with pretty much no way out. I pray to God that if it's His will then let the conversion of protestant to orthodoxy happen to me but I am pretty disturbed because I don't know what to do at this point. To sum it up: 1. No church near me, Imma have to fly by plane in which we have no money for it. 2. My parents didn't allow me to convert 3. I am doomed because I am not orthodox and I don't have salvation

Please help me brothers and pray for me. I am really lost I just don't know what to do and how do I do this.

in OrthodoxChristianityby TTGAofficial

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See-RV

Eastern Orthodox

Who said nonorthodox are doomed?

That’s a Protestant way of thinking about salvation “be in the right denomination or God will punish you” isn’t what we believe.

Follow Christ.

Trust God.

may make two assumptions: (1) that we believe no one outside the Orthodox Church will be saved, and (2) that we believe all Orthodox Christians will be saved. Neither of these is correct. Although membership in the historical Church is the normative means of union with God, and it can be certain that [the fullness] of grace and life of Christ are found within her bosom [if one pursues it with authentic faith],the Church does not make judgments about the salvation of any particular persons

The Orthodox Church follows the teaching of the Apostle Paul, who said, “For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside?”….But those who are outside God judges” (1 Cor. 5:12-13)

With reference to the above question, it is particularly instructive to recall the answer once given to an inquirer by [Saint] Theophan the Recluse. The blessed one replied more or less thus:

“You ask, will the heterodox be saved…Why do you worry about them? They have a Savior Who desires the salvation of every human being. He will take care of them. You and I should not be burdened with such a concern. Study yourself and your own sins….”

https://www.wenorthodox.com/forum/__faq/who-will-be-saved-what-about-non-orthodox-christians-or-others-by-father-michael-shanbour

TTGAofficial

Thanks for clarifying my brother in Christ, I saw it on youtube by the video kyle uploaded, He is an eastern orthodox guy and he is one of the people that opened my eyes to orthodoxy.

See-RV

Eastern Orthodox

Saw what on YouTube?

You might’ve misunderstood Kyle or he spoke too broadly or with authority he doesn’t actually have.

Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.

TTGAofficial

It was a video titled "Kyle vs. NeedGod.net" I think wherein He retaliated the arguments needGod.net said(needGod.net is a baptist bro) and one of the arguments needGod said as to why He is not eastern orthodox is because of the problem of salvation in which Kyke explained like He mentioned an ark of something? Ye I'll rewatch ir and send the link here tomorrow

See-RV

Eastern Orthodox

Yeah we understand salvation as the mystical arc of salvation. A vessel.

Christ pulls us out of the water.

We believe orthodox people are on the ship.

We don’t know if or how and don’t know that Christ will not save other people in nets or one by one pulling them out of the waters.

Rathymountas

Eastern Orthodox

Being non orthodox doesn't guarantee damnation and being orthodox doesn't guarantee salvation.

Pray to God to help you get closer to his Church. You might just find there are reasons for you to move to a place with an orthodox church for school or job.

Your parents aren't really an issue. You're 17, soon to be an adult. You have plenty of time.

TTGAofficial

I mean yeah and no I think? I mean my mon during our 2 hour long discussion brought up the verse that goes like obey your mother and father kinda like that and I dunno how to respond to it like I can't go against them cus then I will be going against God's commandment? Brother help me out😭

Rathymountas

Eastern Orthodox

Your mom is not educated on that verse, I'm afraid. It says HONOR your mother and your father. And Jesus very explicitly said that people should not obey their parents if they try to prevent them from following him.

Spirited_Ad5766

If we're to use out of context Bible passages, what about: "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple"

aletheia

Eastern Orthodox

Do not despair; we pray for you every day.

TTGAofficial

Thank you brother, I appreciate it so much, Godbless you

a1moose

Eastern Orthodox

Life is long and God has beautiful things planned for us, take encouragement.

Wojewodaruskyj

Eastern Orthodox

Confess to God with psalters

casio-baby-g

I don’t have any advice. But if it helps you feel less alone…

I work with my dad’s “childhood friend.” And I’m basically dead to her now that I’m going to an ROCOR 🙃 I’ve been dead to my dad for a long time so nothing new in that department lol

TTGAofficial

May I ask whats a rocor?

TTGAofficial

Nvm I googled it hihi

TTGAofficial

I'm sorry to hear that my brother in Christ, so is itlike a kind of persecution that you're going through?

casio-baby-g

Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia.

Some Armenians have a good relationship with Russia, others resent Russia. But aside from, like, my Uncle (who isn’t biological my uncle), the Armenians here are liberal and resent Russia.

I’m sure if I would have converted to a more liberal denomination like Lutheranism (which I tried for a month), they would be less disappointed that I want to leave the Armenian church.

This is all a long time coming. I should have done this years ago instead of fleeing.

TTGAofficial

Please do not convert to a liberal denomination (or twisters of the word heretics) as they are just making up their own bible at this point. Stay strong my brother in Christ, sending online hugs from reddit and Godbless brother.

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Krazytowner

God is merciful, if someone doesn’t have the full knowledge of truth he won’t hold them to that standard. but say someone has full access and they still choose to go against they are screwed.

[deleted]

Have you looked into Catholicism? They hold to some key errors but far less than protestantism and they have a valid priesthood and the sacraments (including the Eucharist)? I am a Catholic who is becoming Orthodox because Orthodoxy is the fullness of Truth. But if I had no Orthodox Churches near me I would choose to be a sacramental Christian as a Catholic than a Bible only heretic in some man made protestant cult.

Just sharing my opinion. Take it with a grain of salt.

TTGAofficial

Thank you brother, yes I have since a long time ago and I'd rather stay a bornagain for the meantime until I reach orthodoxy as Catholicism for me has many errors (like what you said) and things I cannot agree with such as the immaculate conception, praying to saints (diff from orthodoxy intercesorry prayer typa things), purgatory, etc. But thank you brother in Christ for your beautiful opinion. Godbless you my brother

[deleted]

No problem. I have a question though. What is different about Catholics approach to intercessory prayer compared to Orthodoxy?

Seeking_Not_Finding

Protestant

A conservative Anglican Church would probably be better than a Catholic Church in the mean time.

TheHebrewHammer47

Why do you say that?