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He told women who spent 8 years on their degree that they should be homemakers instead
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This seems rather obvoiusly made up to me.
But I would encourage people who want to talk with others about this, to read it. It's fucking madness. You can hear the hints of MAGA lies and with a dash of white nationalism thrown in. It's easy to dunk on him for quoting Taylor Swift and even easier for the attempt to rob his fellow grads of thier achievements, but the shit that doesn't get quoted is still deeply fucking concerning. Catholcism by the way of American-evangelical-styled authoritarism. It's reads like a mass shooter's manifesto had a good editor.
As a Catholic, this is a completely ridiculous speech. It’s demeaning, and insulting. And hiding your shitty views behind “faith” is cowardly. The Bible does not say women belong in the home. It does not say our only role is mother. The Bible is full of examples of strong women taking charge and making decisions for themselves
I was gonna say, come over to r/Catholics and see how those views fly over there!
Yeah. I think this is the context a lot of people will be missing. This speech belongs at Liberty University. He’s calling for the evangelicalization of Catholicism. Even at most very catholic schools, he’s outta step — not just with the language about women — but with the low-key anti-democratic vibes.
A lot of older folks at my church are leaning towards evangelizing the Catholic Church. I left the evangelical church because of this insanity smh
Good thing he never said that women BELONG in the home or that their only role is mother. He just said that his wife found satisfaction in that vocation. The introductory statement about ambition and dreams makes those statements just to make it more okay and normal for the women who want that for themselves.
He certainly does a bit more than imply women being in the home;
“I want to speak directly to you briefly because I think it is you, the women, who have had the most diabolical lies told to you, how many of you are sitting here now about to cross the stage, and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you’re going to get in your career. Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world. But I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world. I can tell you that my beautiful wife Isabelle would be the first to say that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.”
Just for tone, I’m not mad or trying to come off argumentative. I just think that people should be allowed to share their thoughts when they are within the context of that ideology. Not sure if you follow football but HB left the Church and a few years ago found his way back and ever since he has been deeply convicted about his faith and vocal about it. As a Catholic you know that there is a growing schism between Francis Catholics and Benedict Catholics. With all that in mind, this outspoken person was asked to speak at the private, Benedictine College. This is definitely one of the more conservative schools. So in that context I can see how Butker drew up his speech. Now to your quote.
He never tells women that they SHOULD work in the home nor that it’s better if they did. He said, basically, that they’ve been told that the goal of life is in vocational success but that it’s okay to get an education and choose to stay at home and raise a family. That is also a noble vocation. He made the latter point, not with bluster and arrogance but through sharing about his own wife and how honored he is to have shared that with her. He was heartfelt and passionate. He referred to pride as sin, which given him and this college, is well within their professed beliefs. At the end he received a standing ovation, so he seems to have hit the mark with his audience.
Had this been a public or secular school…totally out of line. I have to think the college approved his speech beforehand as well. To me, this is like a bunch of people opening the door to a bathroom and complaining about the smell.
Again no hate. Just talking
Here’s the nuns response if it helps