Why didn’t kabuto reanimate Fugaku Uchiha? Did Itachi hide his body?
QuestionI think it wouldn't make sense for him to hide all uchiha in the Kamui dimension except freaking Madara
Why didn't Kabuto reanimate any of the Uchiha clan? The 4th great ninja war would have been over, done.
No because most of those Uchiha would be fodder and even Granny Chiyo knows how to counter an Uchiha so they would just make better Counter Measures against Uchiha that Kakashi can probably blitz with his Lightning Blade or Guy could knock them all down with his Hirudora you know MIGHT GUY the person who trained to counter Sharingan users...
They would legit use most of the clan that would be fodder anyways to show how Guy can counter Uchiha's.
Bro the uchiha clan only had a few members that awakened sharingan and were above average, and they still thought they had a good chance against the entire village of jonin and the hokage at the same time. The uchiha clan are not fodder. That’s like saying the senju clan is all fodder because none of them have wood style, non of them have doujutsu, they’re fodder. No. Not even close. The uchiha clan was the police force because they were much stronger than the average shinobi. They would destroy the average shinobi in the war.
And this whole guy countering uchihas, guy looks at their foot to predict their movements, can’t even beat a normal guy with one sharingan, so you think it’s going to beat an actual uchiha with 2 sharingan?
Tobirama actually fought uchiha on the daily and he needed flying rajin to kill Izuna, guy isn’t looking at feet and soloing uchiha. One well placed shuriken and he’s done since he can’t even look up and see what his opponent is doing. Amaterasu would one shot him cause he can’t see anything coming cause he’s looking at feet
Shisui had an ms, Fugaku had an Ms, and itachi was the strongest jonin in the village aside from fugaku and shisui, shisui literally had the power to genjutsu hiruzen onto their side, the village ain't stopping hiruzen bruh
I don't know if Koto works like that all I know is maybe it could give him commands but the one that does that he would be able to be broken out easily.
Was Fugaku having an MS canon? I don't remember that being in the manga.
it's mixed canon, like how sarada has 3 tomoe in manga but 2 tomoe in anime,
Boruto is weird with the anime canon stuff, Naruto doesn't have that.
If Fugaku only has the MS in the Naruto anime, than its filler.
i don't believe the light novels are filler though?
If it's in the light novels than its debatable.
I said if it's only in the anime than its not canon.
I could be wrong but Im pretty sure its canon that he did, I thought that was the reason Itachi feared him if there was a civil war. Otherwise were talking about an Uchiha who rivaled Minato in strength without awakening MS
I think it comes down to whether you see the novels as canon or not.
Nobody knows where Shisuis body is, he dropped into a ravine and into the river years before. Also his ability is too problematic to write into it
Also just because they thought they had a good chance didn't meant it was true and honestly Kakashi the leaf strongest Jonin and if you think all the ones who were like that level in the village didn't get stronger after the literal Massacre then I don't know what to say to you.
As that statement or sort of being the top of the Leaf likely would scale Kakashi over maybe the Hyūga in the village which might scale over some or most of the Uchiha's especially if they are stronger and that's only part 1.
If you don't want to use that well I could probably just think of another few examples but like you could probably just say like Itachi (Clan Killer) < Itachi(Post Massacre) < Akatsuki Itachi < Edo Itachi ~> KCM Naruto.
So anyone over start or war KCM or who keeps up enough just bodies and well who might be able to do that I wonder maybe an MS Kakashi & 7th Gate Guy who beat up Kisame.
“If you think they didn’t get stronger after the massacre I don’t know what to say to you”
In all seriousness, don’t you think everyone would get stronger? Why do you think only 1 or 2 characters get stronger overtime? Only they are training? Basic logic tells you that if one person has time to get stronger, everyone has the same time and the same potential to also get stronger. Of course kakashi and guy got stronger over the course of the story…..but everyone else did too lol.
In a 1v1 with an AVERAGE uchiha, kakashi and guy will win. Any uchiha with talent like shisui, Fugaku, Obito, madara, or even hyuga like Hizashi or Hiashi, Neji if he would have stayed alive and became guys age, itachi, sasuke, all of them would easily beat kakashi or guy 1v1. Sasuke almost killed kakashi while blind right after killing danzo. And he was instantly about to smoke kakashi and Sakura.
Kakashi and guy are strong, but they’re not beating people on their level with doujutsu. It’s just not happening
One of my biggest gripes is how incredibly strong the main characters got, and how lackluster the rest of them stayed. All of the original 12 even gaara as the kazekage were pretty much useless I mean yes the war was against madara who is just so over the top stronger than anyone else and the only reason he got defeated was a poorly thought out stab out of nowhere by zetsu. But anyways back on track. Rock Lee as much as he trained when he was little and he beat sasuke, would have continued to train like that and yeah he did get stronger but he could only go up to the 6th gate at the end and that’s literally the only skill besides physical power that he could focus on. Don’t even get me started about the unessesary sacrifice of Neji, or how choji and his dad with kakashis help could only manage to relay the information to tsunade on pains abilities. But there’s naruto who can take them all out solo.
Long story short, unless you’re a main character, or a villain making an appearance to show off how strong a main character is, you’re fodder.
useless I mean yes the war was against madara who is just so over the top stronger than anyone else and the only reason he got defeated was a poorly thought out stab out of nowhere by zetsu. But anyways back on track. Rock Lee as much as he trained when he was little and he beat sasuke, would have continued to train like that and yeah he did get stronger but he could only go up to the 6th gate at the end and that’s literally the only skill besides physical power that he could focus on. Don’t even get me started about the unessesary sacrifice of Neji, or how choji and his dad with kakashis help could only manage to relay the information to tsunade on pains abilities. But there’s naruto who can take them all out solo.
Long story short, unless you’re
I mean I kinda get it but like might show the different in potential and tier that if Lee tried his hardest and he still isn't that powerful not to say he's weak but like...
Hard to get him stronger than that.
I guess it also might be based on the reason Kishimoto made certain characters or the story that was being told.
Yeah but here is the thing.
Itachi is implied literally above MS Sasuke at his peak power being Healthy and we kind of see this regardless of how you compare MS Sasuke to SM Naruto Naruto blatantly says he's stronger than when he fought Pain in KCM so he should be slapping and Edo Itachi who physically should be weaker is sparring with him before turning the MS on.
The moment he does turn the MS on well Crow GG.
The thing is you talk about these Uchiha and the ones with talent but like if they existed and if they ever had more talent than Itachi who solo'd a Sanin at 14 BTW well then Orochimaru would have most likely already prepared to save them from this possibility or wouldn't be looking at Itachi so much if another one existed that rivaled his talent which is most likely why a Mangekyo Itachi who is hatred amped because of having to kill his clan and found the Toutska Blade and Yata Mirror somewhere is most likely stronger than most Uchiha.
So if the Clan was revived not only would it be hard to control them for Kabuto with the Edo Tensei they would all be fodder Ninja for the most part just that they have Sharingan and not even all of them would be 3 Tomoe.
So most likely it wouldn't be worth it you also have to think about the Civilians who might not even have Sharingan.
Can you both go outside for 5 minutes? Would do you wonders
Don't compare my life to yours just because you take maybe even a minute to type a comment like that doesn't mean everyone does.
This is the issue with the "Go outside" meme or mentality you are literally just assuming I haven't, I want to, or anything related to the situation I'm in.
Yeah with the way you talk, going outside would do you a miracle
The way I talk huh?
Why because I'm right?
Just because we are not the same and because of that you try to look for a reason for a difference that can possibly separate(only to be wrong).
It really just shows that you are just Presumptuous.
Yeah but what happens when they are all War arc Kakashi and & 7th Gate Guy Hirudora victims?
The power couple just stomps them.
Also I do think the Senju are fodder.
If your name isn't Hashirama, Tobirama, their dead brother who probably had more potential as well or Tsunade then most likely you are fodder.
Same with Uchiha.
If you ain't the Top 5 regardless of how you order them.
Sasuke
Madara
Obito
Itachi
Shisui
Then you most likely are fodder.
I guess Sarada and Sakura if you want to be edgy are in there as well...
War arc kakashi and 7th gate guy struggled to take out edo weakened 7 swordsmen lol. They struggled to take out edo weakened haku who is like 12 years old. It’s beyond obvious you have no idea what you’re talking about. And the fact you brought up BORUTO just goes to show you’re a scrub
Saying me bringing up Boruto makes me a scrub(rub (someone or something) hard so as to clean them, typically with a brush and water.)
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honestly how pathetic...
Also no Kakashi was holding back still and Guy wasn't using any Gates at all and Kakashi was only holding back because of Haku & Zabuza I'm pretty sure in the Manga most of them get offscreened and in the Anime they aren't an issue and Kakashi never uses the MS.
This is also Start of war and they get progressively stronger as the war continues and as they show more power and have to fight stronger foes so this point you make is just wrong and you actually have no idea what you are talking about as Haku is actually 15.
The wiki lists them as 15 and unless this is an outlier the Wiki lists characters like Dan as 28 even though we know they should be comparable to Tsunade so they are listed when they are brought up and if they die they don't get listed again meaning Dan was most likely 28 at his death and Hiruzen is never listed as like 70 or something.
So yeah the Uchiha would be fodder also most of them Uchiha probably can't even beat up Zabuza honestly.
Especially Demon Mist Zabuza or Kekkei Genkai Ice Aura Haku.
Maybe they just overestimated their abilities?
He didn't reanimate anyone who died during the Uchiha massacre. Probably because none of them had eyes. But maybe because they were buried somewhere that was hard to grave-rob.
he was prolly scared they could/would all do what Itachi did and break themselves out of his control
I doubt that would happen, since almost none of those Uchiha had unlocked MS. I imagine Fugaku may have been the only Uchiha killed in the massacre who had MS, and even him having it was debatable. Recall kid Sasuke asking Fugaku about Itachi's MS, and Fugaku gave the impression that it was pretty much just a legend or no one had it. Itachi broke out by accident because he had laid a Kotoamatsukami trap in Naruto. Madara was one of the only Uchiha who I really believe could've freed himself, and I don't think even he would've succeeded at that if Kabuto hadn't left his free will intact.
It's always possible that Kabuto lacked knowledge of what the dead Uchiha were capable of, and thus feared the unknown. But I think it's much more likely it's either because the bodies weren't intact due to salvaging by Danzo / Orochimaru / Obito or because none of the Uchiha who died in the massacre were any good aside from Fugaku.
nahhh bullshit -__-
Edo itachi and edo madara covered all the bases
The writers didn't want to come up with a Sharingan power for him
He didn’t have MS
He had ms, and he was the only one who scared Itachi and put him under genjutsu.
That’s anime filler. Canonically it never says he has MS
He has it, just that he hid the fact that he had it. It aint filler, its an added fact that attsches to the backstory of itachi. That backstory is not a complete lie. Otherwise itd be useless to add. Both anime and manga are canon. The fillers u see are side stories, the backstories u saw in final season of shippuden of itachi and kabuto and kakashi are canon too. Just cz it wasnt in the manga doesnt mean it aint true to the plot.
I disagree. Canonicity is anything written or approved as canon by the author.
I’d never take anime-only content as canon unless otherwise stated by the author.
For example, in the anime for the Izanagi backstory, every had a mangekyo. That created a bunch of contradictions.
Fugaku having MS would be a big deal to not mention at all in canon.
It's mentioned in the light novels but seems the canon of those are pretty heavily debated
It actually isn’t! There’s no mention of Fugaku having MS in the novel.
Its just that when the anime adapted the novel, they added Fugaku having MS. Yeah, it’s weird lmao.
Well shit lol. I know the anime changed a few things from the novel like "madara" killing Izumi when in the novel it's the most OP Tsukyomi ever performed lol
I think you could imply he would have one anyways but it wouldn't matter.
it wouldn't be a big deal really cuz he ded anyway and he let himself be killed by Itachi so we can't argue "why didn't he fight back during the massacre"
For me, I separate it into two things. Manga canon and anime canon, and anime canon includes all filler that doesn't contradict anything already canon. So in anime canon, Fugaku had mangekyo.
No, the Manga is the canon.
Anything the anime added is filler, unless specifically mentioned by Kishimoto.
And the Manga says nothing about Fugaku having a MS.
exactly. 100% this is the reason
Because Fugaku used genjutsu on his grave so that whoever gets near it will be tricked that they are in the wrong spot.
facts
Fugaku is ass
nah his Sharingan makes people go insane and kill themselves. that's why he called Wicked Eye
Bro all these people in comments just blatantly making shit up is hilarious
To dispel a few commenters who are lying here are the facts, verifiable through the wiki, data books, and the manga
Fugaku was fucking op. You don’t earn a nickname in the war unless you are strong as fuck. He earned the nickname “Fugaku of the wicked eye” and ninja “trembled at his name”.
He WAS a hokage candidate. It was not stated in the anime or manga, but in the itachi novel he was a competitor with Minato and orochimaru. To be in the same league as them should tell you something.
We know for a fact fugaku had a mangekyo, hence why the uchiha wanted him to control the 9 tails. We also know his Sharigan was actually capable of controlling it.
Fugaku was the ONLY person Itachi was worried about fighting during the massacre. Not just because he is his father but because of his visual prowess.
The reason kabuto didn’t reanimate him is entirely unknown. Probably just kishimoto deciding other characters like itachi already took most of the spotlight for sasukes character progression. Or he just forgot he existed. But we can chalk it up to “kabuto couldn’t find his body” easy enough since there isn’t an actual cannon reason.
The arguments really stem from if you see the novels as canon or not.
they are
bruh for real he wouldn't get the name "Wicked Eye" if he didn't have MS. my head canon is his ability was that his genjutsu made people go insane and kill themselves
States people are making shit up.
Makes shit up.
Tell me which part is made up and I’ll gladly provide a source for it to prove you wrong =)
In fact I’ll just go ahead and one up you since you can’t be bothered to actually try to back up what ya said - here’s all the sources
Fugakus nickname is original stated in the itachi novel and can be seen on the wiki. The “you don’t earn a nickname without being a badass during war” statement isn’t explicitly stated anywhere but evidence such as only op characters like “the yellow flash”, “the 3 legendary sannin”, “hanzo the salamander” etc tend to give credence to that statement.
Again, itachi novel and fugakus wiki.
https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Fugaku_Uchiha#Abilities
“As an Uchiha, Fugaku had very strong chakra. Even more, he was considered to be a rare genius,[10] whose nickname of Wicked Eye Fugaku made shinobi of other nations tremble. His talents were considered comparable to Minato Namikaze and the Sannin, even viewed as a prime candidate to become Fourth Hokage.[3]”
- In the anime, through the itachi shindin episodes. Also on the wiki. These episodes are considered cannon because they are based from the novel written by kishimoto.
“Fugaku also had some knowledge about the Mangekyō Sharingan, after telling Sasuke that it needs a great sacrifice to awaken. In the anime, Fugaku awakened the Mangekyō Sharingan during the Third Great Shinobi War after his friend sacrificed himself to save him. Taking the form of three dots followed by three curves spiralling counter-clockwise around the pupil, Fugaku was confident it was capable of controlling the Nine-Tails.” - straight from the wiki
- Again, light novel, verifiable through the wiki and anime.
His abilities were so advanced that even his elder son Itachi, a prominent member of their clan at the time, hoped to avoid fighting such an opponent.[5] Fugaku stood out as one of the shrewdest security captains throughout the generations.[11]
So instead of just commenting the first shit that comes to mind, do some research and stop making the community shit by arguing for the sake of arguing
Fully backing you dude. People in this sub be wildin
Honestly I don’t get why they just argue just to argue. It’s so frustrating. Appreciate you friend
It is. And bad faith arguments at that. Very frustrating.
I agree with all your points. I was just talking with my nephew about this a few nights ago.
We got to see the Third Raikage, 4th Kazekage, Second Mizukage but every legendary Uchiha name minus Madara was noticeably absent.
Probably the “canon” reason would be, just like the rest of the Uchiha, all of their bodies were taken by either the ANBU/Danzō and/or Obito. Plus, it’s likely the character development impact they could have had would have been meaningless since Sasuke wouldn’t have arrived on the battlefield to see any of them in time. It would annoy us as viewers to see the Reanimation undone before Sasuke could share a word with his father and/or mother (his mother was also a Jonin and likely formidable). All the closure Sasuke needed was shown through Itachi’s memories.
He wasn’t special
Wouldn't say that. He was a Hokage material.
He wasn’t even nominated
Nominated? Lol it's plainly stated he was worthy by all of the Uchihas. Hiruzen simply decided to select Minato instead, likely due to Danzos whispers in his ear.
No it’s stated he wasn’t even mentioned for the role the only ppl put forth were minato and orochimaru
He wasn't nominated. It was a big part of why the Uchiha planned a Coup.
You're not watching the series properly. The daiymo would never elect an Uchiha for Hokage.
Daiymo only comes into play if the sitting kage can’t pick their successor even then he only picks from pre approved candidates
nothing with the Daimyo makes any fucking sense
The Daimyo often don't select the Hokage, they only choose the Hokage if the current kage is dead or indisposed of, if you watched properly you'd know that. Generally the previous Hokage selects the next Hokage.
ass pull
What are you not understanding?
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Afaik the two main candidates were Orochimaru and Minato. Never seen the manga canon say anything about Fugaku being one.
Because he wasn’t the novel has a seen showing the uchiha griping about minato being hokage and no one even mentioning fugaku’s name for the position
the novels were not written by kishimoto they are not canon friend
Itachi novel, canon.
Its cz kabuto likely knew nothing about Fugaku. Theres a reason he wasnt nominated and thays not just because of racism. Although he was a valiant hero, he had nothing special about him that was known. He had the mangekyo sharingan and a very wicked eye at that, hence his nickname. But he hid the fact that he had the mangekyo cz he felt danzo would utilize him or kill him out of fear of him controlling Kurama. To kabuto, fugaku was likely a random dude. Also, obito also knew nothing about fugaku i think and itachi and obito had hid the bodies of most uchihas.
Isnt Fugaku having the MS anime filler?
why would he be called Wicked Eye if he ain't have MS
Name might be filler as well, or he was just "wicked" good with the base Sharingan.
I theorize his Sharingan made people go insane and kill themselves
Such a shame they didn't reanimate the uchiha clan. Even with juz the sharingas they would have a great number of good shinobi and helpful considering the numbers of shinobi the allied have
Every single one of those Shinobi would be weaker than Edo Itachi and only make it harder for Kabuto to control all the Edo's at the same time.
I doubt this very highly. The final leader of the Uchiha clan, father to two of the greatest Uchiha to exist, a known war hero of the 3rd Ninja War could never be reasonably dismissed as “a random guy”.
But seeing as though how Sharingan were so highly coveted, it’s likely their bodies were taken by the likes of Danzō or Obito
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Maybe he couldn't find his body like Minato and shisui
That’s for shisui and jiraiya , minato is a different case
Minato couldn’t be revived until Orochimaru undid the Reaper Death Seal, like Hashirama, Tobirama and Hiruzen
I’m betting all the bodies of the uchiha clan were disposed of by the Anbu so there’s probably no DNA traces
I think most likely it's because he might not have known about Fugaku's abilities.
2: Itachi is just stronger.
3: Itachi is more connected to Naruto&Sasuke which helps his Psychological warfare game.
I think that along with more reasons I probably can't think up now is probably the reason.
Probably because all the bodies should have been burned
He didn't need to reanimate that jabroni
Itachi, Obito, Sasuke, Madara, and Shisui are all the most prodigious of the Uchiha clan. You can make serious arguments that a lot of these guys alone can either no diff or high diff their entire clan. Fugaku is the only other Uchiha who has awoken MS and even that is debatable depending on what sources you’re using. While against the village the Uchiha might have stood a chance Kabuto just had other people who he could have more easily revived and would be worth so much more then a random Uchiha.
Maybe there is a good reason for that. Remember all the Uchicha who got kill during the massacre, their eyes were retrieved and implanted into Danzo’s arms. Given Fugaku was the clan leader, it’s likely his eyes were on Danzo priority list. Not to mention he had awaken his Mangekyo.
There is just one answer : kabuto reanimation army would be too powerful if some of the specific shinobi's would be founded by them
And also , there is a plot answer : grave robbing is not an easy task
Danzo and Obito got the corpses
They didn't have the budget for 20 more filler arc episodes.
All the Uchiha corpses were either gathered up by obito or the anbu