After knowing the truth about him.
Right? Sure Itachi loved him, but he was not a good brother at all 💀
Because he couldn't be
He was forced into killing his own family and knew that his brother would hate him so used that to make Sasuke stronger
Ok but making his brother watch his parents die for 24 hours is kind of a dick brother move. And then letting him fall into the hands of a weird snake man who wants his body
That’s just silly Uchiha’s goofing around
Itachi made a little oopsie
Ahh yah the uchiha darkness
Itachi: kills the whole clan and torments Sasuke telling him to kill his best friend to be able to kill him in the future This is me if you even care :3
Boy will be boys
Itachi thought that little bit of trauma was fine, as a treat
Just a teensy bit of Uchiha clownery is all. Like locking your baby sibling in a washing machine and turning it on at high. Just a good ol' silly time.
Apparently he had to watch it like 500k times, so with 80 k seconds a day, itachi sent him to traumaland for roughly 10 days
Unless you know the way the Uchiha gain sharingan strength is by fear/loss/stress/pain/losing love. He was just speeding it along because life in Konoha is too kushy at that time to awaken sharingan. Hes obviously a shit brother but thats the justification
To that end it broke him and basically made him a borderline sociopath. Ends don’t justify the means. Just bad writing imo because don’t think he had much planned out
Itachi’s basically that immigrant parent that lays down the whoop ass bc he had a a hard day at work, and tell his kids it’s to toughen them up afterwards
Except he didn’t speed it along.
Sasuke unlocked his Sharingan from the trauma of seeing his clan murdered. Itachi however made him forget that he unlocked the Sharingan by basically overtraumatizing him.
If Itachi would’ve left Sasuke the hell alone after seeing that Sasuke awakened the Sharingan then this version of Sasuke would’ve been way stronger than the canon version of Sasuke.
Sasuke can thank his bro for his MS, EMS, and his life many times. Kabuto saving sasuke after the madara stabbing was also itachis doing. Pretty good bro if you ask me
He killed his entire family and clan.
Don't forget lighting him on fire with Ameterasu without knowing if he had a way to counter it
Don't worry I understand that but it was all to make him stronger so Sasuke could kill him
yeah but what if orochimaru just fucking killed him or something? It’s not very watertight planning
Torturing his brother psychologically was absolutely not necessary at all, Itachi is a pos and terrible brother.
Sounds like a good big brother to me. Probably what I woulda done to my little brother.
Knowing Itachi, hurting Sasuke hurts him more than it hurt Sasuke.
As for Sasuke going to Orochimaru, Itachi has no control over that. That was all on Sasuke.
“Knowing Itachi, hurting Sasuke hurts him more than it hurt Sasuke”
Gives real- “It hurts me more than you can imagine to beat you, baby”
Itachi wanted to ensure that Sasuke never knew that Itachi really loved him and that he would take the clan in a new direction as a part of the lead village and being void of Uchiha pride.
Unfortunately nobody could have anticipated how dumb Sasuke is
Where did you get 24 hours from? Itachi freely controls space and time in the Tsukuyomi world, he could have made him see it for how ever long he wanted.
Of course he did. After all, psychological torture totally makes people stronger.
/s
Man, I don't think killing your whole family was the ONLY option. Kill Danzo, tell the 4th Kill Danzo, use Koto on Fugaku Kill Danzo, kill Fugaku, take over the clan. Steal Danzo Koto eye and then use Koto Danzo, and the other one one Fugaku Just kill the adults involved in the coup
Itachi had options, but plot required a weird murder spree
Couldn't do any of those. Doing anything to Danzo would immediately lead to civil war, especially since an uchiha would've done the deed. Fugaku wasn't really in control of the clan anymore, he had created a monster and couldn't deal with it. ust kill the adults would lead to a more brutal civil war when the kids grow up. Couldn't Koto Danzo because Danzo had Kotoamatsukami too.
There was no other option that didn't lead to a civil war and the end of Konoha.
Oh please we need to stop with this. This man itachi was clearly only meant to be a straight up villain at first and his good guy plot twist was a late decision.
Still doesnt make him a good brother.
I know about everything but he wasnt really there for him as a brother and more of a guardian or a guide
There were other things he did where he wasn't forced, and even still assuming everything he did to hurt Sasuke was something forced onto him he's still a bad brother.
And before he left, he went and named him Sue.
Itachi admits during the reanimated fight vs kabuto that things may have been different had he just trusted in Sasuke before the coup.
Happy cake day bro
I mean I don't understand why he had to traumatize him over and over and over again but tsukuyomi like itachi was a lethal but a stupid kid used as a genocidal machine by danzo nd the likes.
Well he thought Obito was the coolest guy and thanked Pain for teaching him pain. He is very forgiving.
Besides if you consider Boruto canon he says something like " Not sure if I count as great a bro as Itachi."
Exactly and I think itachi was only testing to see how deep there bond was to make sure sauske can rely on Naruto for a Morale comeback as sauske didn’t know the whole truth yet, because I mean we know sauske can handle his own but striving him back on track was all itachi wanted.
Tbf Naruto was the best thing that happened to Sasuke and Itachi was the worst thing that happened to Sasuke
Fuck you. You’re right 😂
Gonna have to agree with this, datte bayo~
Yeah. To be honest, it feels like Itachi's justification was shoehorned to make him "good." I'd prefer that he was a loving, yet power-hungry lunatic who wanted to groom his brother to be like him whose bads outweighed his goods and boom.
On the contrary, I think Itachi being konoha loyalist was always meant to be. In the second arc of Naruto, it was made pretty clear that Sasuke would resort to Orochimaru at some point for his goals. There were a lot of clues in Itachi monologue about clan and Kakashi speech about revenge never ending well. In last arc of Naruto, he hurt his team and went to Orochimaru for revenge. Choosing wrong way to get vengeance would have never gotten him the revenge he wanted. Not in this show at least.
Itachi post monologue was also a pretty nuanced character with major flaws in his morality and ways which was made clear in his conversation with Naruto and Sasuke in war arc. It's just that because he is so cool, a huge portion of Naruto fans act like he was second coming of Jusus Christ.
Bro yes. Been saying for years it felt like he was rewritten in the middle of Shippuden just so Sasuke could get the Mangekyou without killing Naruto
Hahahah exactly well said
Damn, how do I upvote it like many times?
To be fare…. the hidden leaf village is the worst thing that happened to the Uchiha.
Tobirama is mad that he isn't getting credit
Itachi was so good at killing people and so so bad at understanding them lmao
Itachi was the worst thing that happened to Sasuke
Eh, it's either live with a trauma or get killed as a child. Itachi chose the former.
His intension were good but it doesn't change the fact that he was worst thing to happen to Sasuke. You can love someone and still make their life a hell. Happens often in real life as well.
Can vouch, been there done that
Of course, I'm not arguing what Itachi did was good. I'm just saying he picked the lesser evil from his POV.
I get it, but Tsukyomi on a kid? Setting him on a path to try and kill him… team 7 Sasuke was on the upswing, mentally. Then Itachi comes back ,iirc, tsukyomi’s him again and then tramples on whatever progress he had.
*Could have easily left him in ignorant Bliss. Instead, practically handed him to Orochimaru.
Tsukuyomi on a kid.
Yeah ngl I agree with that one. Bro had absolutely no reason to do that lmao. Kisame was quite convinced Itachi wasn't a spy once he broke Sasuke's wrist.
That was the second time he used Tsukuyomi, too. He first used it to show Sasuke their parents' deaths over and over again on the night he killed the clan too. That he only did to inspire hate in Sasuke hoping that would be enough to keep him moving forward.
If he didn't use Tsukuyomi in the 2nd time I'd be willing to let the first pass purely because of the argument that he wanted to make sure Sasuke hated him. The second one made no sense and even on my first time watching I thought it was bullying and pointless, and after learning the truth I found Itachi to be quite paranoid.
Agree to disagree on that point. I think the first time was objectionable all on its own. I feel like Sasuke could have hated him without illusion-based psychological torture. But I guess Itachi doesn't do half-measures.
Yeah, in hindsight the writing should have been different. Maybe Itachi kind of knew that Sasuke needed to be strong to save the world or something, and with the curse of hatred going on...
u forgot he SNAPPED his bones too
like any good brother would do
That's because at the, time Itachi was still supposed to be an antagonist.
The way kishinoto and pretty much all shonen authors feel like they have to redeem every single popular villain and ignore/lazily explain away their earlier despicable acts is honestly detrimental to my enjoyment of the genre. It lowers the emotional stakes below sea level when anyone can be forgiven for anything and every bad guy is secretly a good guy as long as he's popular enough.
It's one thing to have a plan to redeem itachi from the start and have him purposefully avoid unnecessarily hurting Sasuke to foreshadow that shit. But when you just realize you want him to be a good guy one day and have to write a new character into the show, his only purpose for existing being to shift blame from Itachi just feels cheap and lazy.
Didn't even have the balls to pin it on hiruzen because can't have the hokage be nuanced and do despicable things. It has to be this previously unknown wormtounge character that we don't have a preexisting relationship with and are therefore free to hate.
Like imagine if Oda does a 180 and is like "Blackbeard is a good guy now, it was actually the world government who forced him to do all those bad things, forgive him plz :3"
Naruto art style and premise and world are so fucking good, but the writing is so insanely mid. Honestly getting myself worked up just writing this. So many missed opportunities for drama if it was just a little better😅.
Or neither and oppose the genocide and oppose the coup and call for a discussion or for the whole Uchiha to just leave the village instead of murdering innocent people
Also he absolutely did not have to tsukuyomi Sasuke that much lmao
He didn't have to tsukuyomi him that much sure,but he did try to get fugaku and 3rd hokage to settle things peacefully. The 3rd only agreed by the point it was too late,and fugaku placed the burden of convincing the clan for peace on Itachi and said he would only discuss shit if the clan was down for it. Itachi was already getting alienated by the clan and they already thought of him as a traitor to the clan and suspected him for killing Shisui. It's the fault of Fugaku and the 3rd more than the 13 year old child who was asked to handle their matters for them.
Fugaku tried to delay the rebellion as much as he can. He was a konoha loyalist but there is only a certain amount of shit one can take.
3rd hokage was a true politician who played good guy act while he had danzo do all the dirty work. He also had plenty of time to negotiate with Uchiha. There was literally a two year gap between Shisui death and Uchiha massacre.
Itachi ideologically agreed with danzo on everything about Uchiha expect killing the Sasuke part. He believed in the genocide.
What negotiation?
We're forgetting all context here in this discussion.
The village assumes the Uchiha or an Uchiha unleashed the Nine tails on Konoha once already. They know it was an Uchiha with Madara's abilities. That's the evidence. They're right. That's why they're the Elders. It was an Uchiha with Madara's abilities. They dared be cautious of the Uchiha after a horrific devastating attack by an Uchiha. Hiruzen still sought no revenge and acted on the village's behalf to calm tensions and to simply keep an eye on the Uchiha from then on in greater detail. See how zero clans come rushing to the Uchiha's defense or so called mistreatment. They all sighed a sigh of relief. They're scared and uncertain.
The clan believes the village believes the Uchiha had something to do with it and are ENRAGED at the thought of them being suspicious of the Uchiha at all. If its all of them or just even one its outrageous such an honorable clan is even dared considered for such a thing. They've always thought this about us. This is just like the old days. Not one of them could fathom that it may actually have been an Uchiha even if its not one of us and it wasn't like the old days at all. In fact the race for the next Hokage was quickly becoming between two Uchiha. Shisui who was quickly becoming Hiruzen's number one go to or Itachi who was quickly becoming Danzo's number 1 go to and who pushed as much as he good for his promotions. How can their delusions be any greater? The village has it out for and don't trust us yet entrust everything to two Uchiha and are constantly praising them?
You're right however on Hiruzen. There's no negotiation. He's the Third Hokage and I'm glad you at least realized Danzo's purpose. He does not NEED to negotiate to anyone. He says jump you simply say how high Sandaime-Sama. That's for every clan regardless of so-called "status". Thats why Konoha and I personally agree that the clan was tainted by Madara's influence. It never left. That feeling of superiority and revenge Madara left behind was too great.
Your right. Konoha saw this as the perfect time to cut this poisoned branch off of their great tree so that it doesn't go down with it. Fans say he's a pushover but the longest serving Hokage and old school ninja is anything but. Hiruzen Sarutobi knows darkness a lot more than he lets on. I can't speak for Hiruzen but his inaction speaks for itself. As for Danzo he simply said he knew the future generations would not have the stomach to stop them as they had now. With the potential of Madara being back and not just that now the clan is calling for kidnapping the longest reigning Hokage in history was too much uncertainty for Danzo in his old age. If the Uchiha could have restrained themselves from suicide for a little while longer Danzo would have discovered Obito had returned as Madara and that revelation would have eased Konoha's suspicions of the Uchiha. Shisui and Itachi would still be alive and again both fighting for number one contention for Hokage by the Third himself. Despite the village's so called hatred or discrimination of the Uchiha.
Also he absolutely did not have to tsukuyomi Sasuke that much lmao
Have you ever had a little brother?
Dawg 💀
That will never happen. The Uchiha would never straight up leave the village as this essentially is waving the white flag and they're too proud for that, especially since -at the time- they viewed their position as ideal for a coup. If Itachi did that he'll either get multiple attempts of assassinations or get excommunicated from the clan and live (in shame). It was a pick between a civil war (that the Uchiha would for sure lose eventually) or what Itachi did. The fact that he managed to bargain for Sasuke to stay alive is a win in itself.
For the Tsukuyomi, I fully agree. There was no need for it. Itachi was being overly cautious from Kisame that he went overboard on Sasuke to prove he wasn't a traitor.
There was no neither, Danzo gave him the ultimatum. Itachi already opposed the coup, the Uchiha just didn’t care that he did. And had he told them about Danzo’s ultimatum that would’ve just pissed them off more
Itachi ideologically agreed with danzo on everything about Uchiha except killing the Sasuke part
And people still think he's a good guy?
I know? That’s why I said he opposed the coup
Itachis plan hinged on a loud mouth liar not talking and not being fireproof.
He greatly underestimated the love younger brothers have for their aniki's
He was a nuanced character with huge flaws in his morality and plans which he accepted in his conversation with Naruto and Sasuke in war arc but for some reason, the Naruto fandom act like he is second coming of Jusus Christ
I guess that's exactly the reason why Itachi's smiles up there.
No, he really is a better brother figure to him than Itachi ever was.
Sasuke was actually making progress in getting over his problems with Team Seven. Then Itachi broke his arm and mind-fucked him again.
Everytime he had a spiritual moment w team seven, he got reminded of Itachi and it pushed him in the wrong direction 😭
No. Plus if anything, Itachi was happy he heard it. It meant that Sasuke was making “friends” and would hopefully go down a good path with someone like Naruto to help him along.
Nope. If anything, Naruto should have doubled down even more, because all that did was drive Sasuke further into the darkness that Itachi pushed him to.
The fact that Naruto was not allowed to call him out during the war arc and instead Itachi had to teach Naruto this "lesson of trusting others" is utter bullshit. Itachi has never trusted anyone and even with Naruto, his plan to use Naruto was just to house Koto so that it can brainwash Sasuke.
If anything, Naruto should have punched Itachi for that and called him out on that disgusting tactic.
I think Itachi teaching Naruto to trust others is another way of him admitting his failure in doing so.
You don't have to think it. Hell, Itachi goes as far as to say that he is an absolute failure: He never trusted Sasuke to grow up and make his own decisions and NEVER HAD FAITH IN HIM. Hence why he forced Koto on Naruto.
Itachi's lesson wasn't "Trust people", Itachi's lesson was "don't try to do everything yourself or you'll end up like Madara."
You know. Like Itachi almost did.
He thinking that forcing koto on Sasuke was a bad move is funny because for him it was like a couple hours ago since he put the crow in Naruto. He develop really fast...
Didn't he trust obito for slaughtering children?
wouldn't you trust obito with slaughtering children?
Why would Itachi suddenly have that kind of thought? This man lived his whole life believing in manipulating and lying, without trusting anyone, to get things done.
Now he comes back to life and is all, "You must learn to trust in others, young one" like he's attained Nirvana when he was in the afterlife?
People don't come back to life having gained some new perspective. You come back the exact same as you died.
I guess seeing the results of his failures when he woke up as Edo tensei did that to him.
He saw no results, though. And even a few words from Naruto telling him what happened shouldn't make Itachi gain enlightenment either. If anything, it should by all accounts be something he figured could happen, hence why he put Koto in Naruto in the first place, so that Sasuke can be brainwashed.
So Itachi should have doubled down on having Sasuke brainwashed to serve the village.
Nothing about Itachi going all, "Yes, I now understand the value of trust and companionship" when that's utter BS.
The fact that Kishi went ahead and made Itachi do a complete 180 is just Kishi wanting Itachi to be praised even more as this paragon of virtue.
I mean Itachi probably isn't against trust in the first place, he trusted Shisui and the third hokage before.
Sure, he made a horrendous job at rasing Sasuke and turned him into a criminal, but I guess it was already too late to change his approach with Sasuke before his death.
The way I see it is that he already realized his failure before his death, it's not like we saw his true personality before his death, it's only when had already died that we had the opportunity to see him dropping the act.
Sure, he trusted Shisui, but Shisui was the only person that Itachi considered an equal. Even against Hiruzen, the only thing that Itachi counted on was to keep his word to protect Sasuke, but other than that, Itachi was also angry at Hiruzen for not handling the Uchiha situation until it got so bad, as proven by the novels.
The way I see it is that he already realized his failure before his death, it's not like we saw his true personality before his death, it's only when had already died that we had the opportunity to see him dropping the act.
I'd argue the opposite. The smile he gives is only more testament of how Itachi doesn't trust and ultimately just knew that he had everything prepared and go nearly as well as he'd hoped for it to.
Nothing about Itachi's character, even when you learn the truth, is about him being a person who has the actual wisdom of the Hokage that Hiruzen claims he has. Itachi was someone who pushed people away and rejected any chances or paths that involved trusting other people.
Itachi coming back to life with this renewed outlook on life that he would abandon the Kotoamatsukami plan and even be disgusted with it only highlights Kishi backtracking because he realized that it made Itachi look bad.
The smile is very clealry just Itachi happy that Sasuke has someone in his life like Naruto that could, as naruto says, provide him with something itachi couldn't. Takes a lot of Itachi bias to see it literally any other way lol
That smile means nothing when the result is Itachi STILL planning to brainwash Sasuke. Fact is, Itachi liking Naruto doesn't change that Itachi himself was still a liar and someone who doesn't actually rely on something like faith and trust.
Bro you need to read the manga over you have no idea what you’re talking about
Yes, I do. But you are free to delude yourself otherwise.
You’re embarrassing yourself , you half remember the show it’s very telling
Pretty sure literally dying has a major effect on people 😂 It puts things into perspective.
No. Not when you die with no form of belief you did anything wrong. Nagato did, so his change makes sense, because he changed before he died.
Itachi didn't change before he died. He died firmly believing that he fooled Sasuke well and that he had all the contingencies placed so that Sasuke would come back t the village.
Itachi coming back to life will not give him any renewed look on life.
The act of dying in itself changes you, it's one of the most (if not the most) profound moments of life. I seem to recall him and Kisame discuss something to the effect of 'You don't truly know the person you are until the very end' and 'One realises one's true nature at the moment of death'.
Further changing him would be seeing how his plans failed once he was revived. He even acknowledges that Sasuke shouldn't forgive him after the reanimation was broken.
Yes, I'll never understand why Naruto never condemned Itachi for everything he's put Sasuke through, especially since he saw just how much Itachi made Sasuke suffer with his own eyes.
After hearing the truth, Naruto suddenly forgot how Itachi beat up, tortured, and humiliated Sasuke when he was only 12 and instead, praised him saying that "he's done enough for the village" and was willing to keep the truth behind the massacre under the rug bc the perpetrator said so.....
Not even giving Itachi a single punch? Dude, that's disgusting. Naruto even punched his dad for what he did.
Itachi : Naruto I’m going to teach you to trust others
Naruto: You didn’t trust your own clan to change their ways and killed them
Itachi : proceeds to use Amatarasu looking at his own reflection
I don't see any reason why he should regret it, Naruto loves Sasuke and is a better brother.
Idk, in light of all the headgames Itachi did on Sasuke, even with good intentions, he was not a good brother in deed. He acknowledged as much. Fairness to Itachi, his models for family were a father who hung all the Uchiha hopes on Tach and mede him be a spy. His other model was Danzu and the Anbu.
Fr, when you’ve always been told what to do by a bunch of emotionally constipated old men, there isn’t much room for self-discovery 💀
I think he does but in the end I think this is exactly what itachi wanted to hear.
Yeah, that smile is a strong indicator that that’s what he wanted to hear. The dude is usually poker faced 24/7, so moments like this say a lot without saying much at all
Itachi. Killed. Their clan. Their parents, too. Then tortured Sasuke with the super extreme visions of him doing so again and again. All while Sasuke was seven.
No amount of "tough love" will make up for that or make Itachi a caring brother. He's wacked in the head. I always thought the dad from "Boy Named Sue" was an idiot, but gotta say, Itachi has him beat.
Naruto treated Sasuke like a brother. Itachi treated Sasuke like a pawn. Whether he loved Sasuke or not is irrelevant. He tormented and abused him for much of his life. Itachi is the reason that Sasuke suffered and couldn't make positive, healthy relationships with the people in his life. He's the reason Sasuke went to a freak like Orochimaru whose atrocities exceed even Itachi, himself; someone who treated Sasuke like a tool to be exploited or worn like a skin suit. Itachi is the reason that Sasuke went through all that. Fuck being a bad brother; Itachi is a bad person. Not because he killed his clan, but because he didn't just stop there, but did everything in his power to fuck Sasuke up for life on the way out.
I mean maybe but it remains true that naruto was a much better brother to Sasuke than itachi ever was
Aww itachi smiled
Itatchis choices completely go against Naruto's ninja way
The fleeting, honest itachi smile… so nice to see
He was about to confess his feelings but he went with the “brother” line🥺
No, Itachi is a bad brother. Itachi acts as Sasuke’s superior and tries to take control of his whole life.
Naruto treats Sasuke as his equal.
Why would he? It's not like Itachi corrected him. In fact he gave him the crow as a confirmation of what Naruto said.
I'd like to remind you those words weren't just empty talk unlike a certain old and hypocrite hokage , naruto backed those words with action, so there would be nothing to regret.
Itachi was vetting him to make sure Sasuke had someone look out for him.
Naruto probably would have apologised to Itachi, but he wouldnt regret it because thats not his thing
But Itachi also didnt seem to mind, because its technically true
No and he shouldn’t. Never forget itachi’s way of showing love is torture and stripping away free will.
No. Itachi was a necessary evil not a good brother. He knew he would be hated by friends, family, and the village. I think Naruto more than ever would understand why Itachi did what he did but I don't think he regrets what he said because he still means Sasuke is more of a brother to him than Itachi was to Sasuke.
Bro didn’t even have friends 😭
Or alive ones at least
I find it hard to believe Itachi never connected with someone outside of the Uchia clan prior to the massacre.
You also need to remember that he was just following the Uchiha methodology for strenghtening their men. Through suffering and pain. Itachi did nothing wrong.
I think killing children(conspiring/helping) can't be considered anything but wrong. I'm sure some terrorist organizations would agree children witnessing murder and violence "strengthen" them but it still makes it wrong.
Yes yes, I know this isnt good in real life, but in the Narutoverse and given the way the Uchiha clan operates, Itachi was just doing what was right according to the ways of the Uchihas.
Even in the Naruto verse, Itachi was viewed negatively for the genocide of his clan. But Uchiha clan hadn't genocided itself to that degree for very obvious reasons. 1 being it doesn't strengthen the clan, it erases its existence(almost) Itachi didn't do it for the clan, he did it for the village and Sasuke.
I was thinking more about the desire to make Sasuke awaken a strong Sharingan and seek power through hate and the desire for venegance. Him emotionally manipulating Sasuke to that extent is how Uchihas gain strength, so in that regard he was right. The whole massacre of the clan was more complex, he was doing it for the village.
Which just furthers my point. He wasn't being a good brother. He was doing things for others well trying to protect Sasuke. Not the other way around. Regardless, I'd still believe Itachi would agree Naruto has been a better brother to him
No because itachis a bitch.
Goatachi lives in ur head rent free
Not really. I just scroll reddit and because I'm part of the Naruto sub I get posts from it in my feed and 80% of them are about Itachi because that's all this subreddit dickrides even though there's other characters that are far cooler. He's a lame character so I leave a comment and walk away because it's funny how mad people get about it.
Wtf do you mean by dickride lol. Most posts on Itachi here shit on Itachi😂😂😂. You think you're the minority dumbass
I think itachi was happy that even in his death sasuke still had a brother
Itachi: Nuh uh. *hops into forest*
I love Naruto
I don’t think so… when I was younger watching the show, I thought itachi was the goat after the truth was revealed… then I rewatched the series and realized how actually dumb this man is He jumped straight to killing his entire clan and being a rouge ninja instead of going to the Hokage who knew Danzo was a shithead??? He could have warned both sides??? Like “Heey uchia are being sick heads Konoha” “heyy uchia brethren!! Quit the shit or we’re all gone have a REAL bad day. “ Or even fuck around and killed danzo on the spot??? If you’re gonna go rogue, go rouge for killing an asslicker
He wasn't really wrong
" his bussy is really good "
Naruto is the person Itachu respects the most
No, because Itachi literally abused his brother's emotions and feelings and refused to explain anything to him. Itachi was forced into this situation, but still
He meant to say boyfriend, so, yes.
Damn naruto is the best at talking no jutsu
Why the hell would he? IT might even be true even after all the years and if anything Itachi must had been delighted to hear that.
I don't think Naruto knows the full extent of the story. I don't think Naruto knows about Itachi having to kill everyone he knows and loves to save his brother.
Definitely
That depends on how much Sasuke shared with Naruto after the 4th Great Shinobi War.
But i guess its pretty bad too that he got married to sakura....
Nope, both of them believed that statement since it was true
I think in the end naruto would’ve known it made itachi happy that he felt that way about Sasuke.
Im sure he does but i think naruto would know that itachi could excuse his comments then because he didnt know his intentions
Obviously, after he found out the truth.
Not to be that person but if Sakura said something similar to this at this point in the story (e.g., “I love Sasuke more than you ever did”) it would follow her for LIFE like she’d still be getting death threats in her DMs
Then don't be that person.
Obviously not what that phrase communicates bfr
As far as Naruto knew, Itachi was a terrorist. And that’s the way Itachi wanted it.
I think Naruto is the type to know that to regret it would also be to dishonor Itachi’s sacrifice.
He's right Itachi certainly loved Sasuke, but he's the worst brother in the license.
Itachi killed his entire clan including his parents & children. So probably not.
Technically it wasn’t the entire clan he didn’t kill Sasuke
Yeaa n nahh
I don’t think Naruto every regretted saying anything. Everything he’s said had conviction & belief behind it.
I think Naruto only regrets saying such after he meets reanimated Itachi and understands his intentions by the end of the war. I don’t think he fully regrets it, though, because he truly sees himself as Sasuke’s true brother to lean on while Itachi already let that ship sail. Both Itachi and Naruto come to the conclusion Itachi screwed up when they meet during the war, so Naruto does know Itachi‘s wrongdoings were more complex than when he told him he was a better brother. Tbh Itachi likely wouldn’t want him to take it back since he’s glad someone cares about Sasuke so much and he can‘t be closer to him like Naruto with all his faults as a brother.
For itachi was 'Mission completed' so no I don't think so
I'm not sure. Naruto was shocked after he found out the truth about Itachi. Naruto was somewhat ignorant in regards to Itachi's actions in that conversation.
Was Itachi hurt?
No...why would he regret it? Naruto says things as they are, from his heart. If anything, Naruto sharing this stance is probably why Itachi trusted Naruto and understood that Sasuke was in good hands after him and Sasuke's fight.
Why would he? I can't wrap my head around some of these posts.
Then it's simple don't comment
No, I think he knows that it brought Itachi a lot of comfort. Itachi antagonized Sasuke (and others, like Kakashi) to make them stronger, but that was the only thing he could do for them after he left the village. Knowing someone was there for the people he cared about probably made it easier to complete his mission.
Knowing Naruto, he either forgot or he's sticking his guns. And Itachi... he wouldn't mind that. At least someone will be there to protect his little brother... a shame Boruto the series ruins it huh?! THANKS KAWAKI!
No, under the context of the situation Itachi is a defector of Konoha who genocided the Uchiha clan, left Sasuke traumatized for life, and joined an international terrorist organization. Naruto doesn’t have any reason to say anything else whether he knows Itachi is a double agent or not.
I imagine he does but it's also important that at this point he didn't know the truth about the Uchiha massacre
Itachi sucks as a brother lmao
We don't see him regreting things in the series(something that I don't agree, it makes him looks always right even when he's wrong...)
Absolutley, without a doubt op
Wander if itachi wanted to end Naruto right there. Sure itachi is the MOST calm person in this series but that had to sting worst than the massacre. Everything you gave up just to say this random guy is a better brother. I mean it’s true, but still
Is this a b8 question for comments? Yes
I thought Itachi smiled when I watched this but that's a damn that cuts deeper than my blade look
I mean probably not, it's not like oh I just didn't know, he was being actively tricked, and that's without even getting into all the fucked up shit itachi did that it really didn't seem like he needed to do for this plan
I dont know ask him
I see people saying itachi was the worst thing that happened to Sasuke, no Hanzo was the worst thing to even happen to Sasuke, better yet the whole hidden leaf. Everything that Itachi had to do was due to him and mostly all of their suffering! Itachi did what he had to do it was unfortunate but no other options!
Naruto's power to change and impact people 🤌🏻🤌🏻 far greater than anyone else including Itachi...haha
Why would he? He's not the one who murdered Sasuke's family, put him under Tsukuyomi three times, and lit him on fire with Ameterasu without knowing that if he had a way to counter it
Technically naruto is/ was more of a brother than itachi could… indra/ asura
Look how itachi’s frown went away after he said that. Shit made itachi feel better
Naruto has a different view of what a brother is and what that entails in the same way Sasuke and Naruto have conflicting views on what a Hokage is. So it stands to reason Naruto genuinely believes in what he is saying.
man will be man
He believes what he said
Even Itachi smiles
no cuz he was right
Actually speaking, Yes naruto should feel regret cuz he didn't know a damn abt itachi back then just like God gifted power having brat sasuke the rat
No it’s true and it’s what Itachi wanted to hear and make sure of before he died by Sasuke’s hands
I mean it's true man. He doesn't regret something that's obviously true. Itachi didn't have to make Sasuke relive his parents death using tsukuyomi, that was a bit to far, and he even crucified kakashi through tsukuyomi for no reason at all, so it ain't cap
No, cause he really believes what he said