I've seen a lot of posts downplaying their main. I'm curious who do you all think is downplayed the most?
Taz, Finn, TJ, and Marvin seem to be the most consistently "We will pretend these characters are not good" candidates I see. Sometimes Black Adams as well. Finn, though, I think is about to become one of the most complained about characters as people start to abandon the nerfed characters for easy to play, strong options.
I’ve been hating on Finn since the beta
Ive been hating on finn since the alpha
Finn players straight up have a zero to death that feels really hard to dodge . Even worse in the last 10 matches ive had 4 have been fins it sucks cause I suck and games against them are incredibly annoying because its so dangerous to engage them aggresively .
Taz is so unbelievably fast and his grounded up attack is so annoying/funny. The nerf on his neutral air was a good thing but I still don't feel good trying to touch the ground vs Taz. His down air being armor break is also amazing vs the armored top tiers. I think it was even buffed?
Marvin I literally don't think is good outside of 2v2s, but TJ and Finn are perfectly fine IMO.
Marvin probably isn't good in 1v1, but he's been powerful in 2s since launch for sure. Tom's deal is that people try to do too much and open themselves up. Standing in place as this character and being reactive is kind of insane. He's almost unapproachable for most of the cast as long as he isn't diving in. Same thing was going on with Morty. If they just stand there and wait for you to do literally anything, while they use a long range zoning tool, you get kind of ate up with half of the cast. my problem with Finn is a problem I have with the game in general: There are too many small hurtbox characters. Finn gets to low profile way too much stuff for a sword fighter. It gives him free approaches against some characters. I don't know what Jason's fair is like now, but certain Finn animations low profiled Jason's entire jab combo, and he was able to just walk under forward into the ground.
I don't think Finn is broken or anything, I just think he's a low risk/high reward character that will be steadily gaining popularity now.
Yeah in 2s if he gets a few seconds of free time he can cause a lot of chaos. The problem is he's barely even serviceable in 1s. TJ defensive capability is mostly due to the fact Jerry shot is "infinite potential", other than that the only thing I'd write home about is his grounded up attack and his jab string having a lot of hitstun which makes it easier to combo constantly. His down air has a lot of force but that's to be expected. His dash is attack is also pretty fast I guess but it hits so low. Morty as of now is much weaker I feel like. He's still very good if you hit literally all grounded side specials (if he misses he's screwed) but most of his attacks other than side air and up air are one of the worst in the cast.
I definitely understand the low hurtbox character complaint. I feel that a lot while playing Gizmo also since his arrows are so skinny and some of his attacks are very stubby. Kind of makes me understand why some characters swing so broadly.
Taz legit has unblockables man
every move in this game is unblockable
Taz.
This. No point in having an anvil if you can pick it up anymore
bro god kinda nerfed severly after this latest patch
Morty players for sure
Tbf, his kit is so disjointed and is lacking attacks. Most of his specials are just for recovery; which isn’t that helpful as he can only use 2 specials while in the air
But yeah he’s def downplayed a lot
before this recent patch i would agree but after morty is gutted bad
Marvin. Character is honest but people act like he’s garbage
I play marvin and I do think he’s pretty good but not in overpowered territory he doesn’t have too many good moves to ring out players
Finn was always a monster even before the update now I think it’s become obvious Finn needs a small tune down.
Big huge colossal tune down (maybe not but Finn makes me very angry indeed)
Morty players
I literally have made it my job to main morty since he got nerfed recently.
You make the world a better place
I miss his old rock split. That was really chaotic
I can't figure him out at all. He plays so different than every other character.
Tbf, Morty’s grenades all get destroyed by literally any projectile
Fr idk why people complain about it when a pellet out of morty’s pellet gun destroys it
Also: Morty is one of the few projectile-users who can’t really counter projectiles well. The only projectile is can counter is another Morty’s grenade lol
Whats crazy is that lebrons ball and rick’s meeseeks literally just get slowed down by the grenade
Yeah Morty’s grenades have it rough
I find it pretty difficult to counter LeBron; as you said, his basket balls just completely over power Morty’s grenades.
Yeah exactly 👍
Tried him now that hes in free rotation, without his indestructible grenades he fares alot less well, not to mention his jab-string getting fairer properties makes him less of a menace on the ground overall.
Fair Nerf's tho.
Bugs and WW is still a lil too much tho.
Came to downplay morty i see 😂😂 (jokes)
People who think bugs it’s too much right now are just bad against bugs, WW is definitely still up tuned.
Not downplaying morty am just saying his nerfs/bugfixes were significant but very welcome.
Game is better balanced in many regards
Why I put (jokes) in parentheses, but it’s Reddit maybe I should have put /s
Game will be better balanced after the majority of patches, which is why they patch things. It’s inevitably getting more balanced.
We agree, I was just poking fun bro
Bugs
Morty Mains. Anyone I go against one I get filleted like a fish at McDonalds
Main?
Joker
your cards can break his grenades and you side special and up attack are pretty good against morty
That’s what I usually do, but Morty players are hella good ngl
Velma. Not because she's secretly good, but because she's far better than unplayable
Bugs bunny tbh
Bugs was at his best before this nerf. He was totally over exaggerated in the Beta. Definitely S tier in 2v2 but hardly A in 1v1.
I agree
The downvotes are crazy. Recency bias for sure. People forget Jake, Shaggy, Superman, Harley, Morty, Arya, & Finn were overwhelmingly selected amongst the top 1000 players in the Beta. There was ~50 bugs mains in there.
Reddit is full of chronically incorrect morons.
He got nerfed a few times in the beta, which version do you remember? The spin spike loop or post that one?
Morty players probably used to being the best character in the beta lol
Superman?
I remember back in Beta Steven was quite downplayed, Now with the full release Steven was really showing how busted he was whether you spammed his moves or actually used him correctly as a character, and as a Steven main, I am pretty glad he got nerfed, he was overly oppressive and everything before the nerfs, although one nerd I did not find really necessary was his Buffer, his basic attacks already felt overly punishing when failing a hit. At the end of the day, some Steven mains were definitely overreacting to the nerfs. these were all needed. Specially the Nair being considered a projectile, god knows why it was classified as a projectile in the first place.
I have ptsd from the beta and everyone saying shaggy wasn't S tier, but I guess people nowadays acknowledge him as broken more often... so I'mma say Black Adam or Taz.
How has no one mentioned Harley? Those players are such big babies that they got her buffed this patch when she’s absolutely fine if not OP
People have to be joking when they say Jake sucks. Every Jake player I run into is a beast
Jamafia and ripfrenzi both switched mains for a reason
Morty 100%. I have seen several threads saying he's bad when he is just hard to play. Pros literally put him in top 5.
Tbf using pros as the baseline of the character for how good they are isn’t the best imo. Morty is a low basement, High Ceiling character when it comes to potential/learning curve
I have no clue why void put him in s tier when he’s at most an A. His grenades literally get destroyed by every projectile. His dair sucks and his up air barely complements that other than being a decent option. Most of his combos depend on whether the opponent can dodge or not. Also most people know that the down special nerf is coming and its already been nerfed a bit
Down special on Morty being nerfed? I don’t know if I’m following, it’s already pretty lackluster and easy to punish. Honest question, am I missing something with it?
Not the down special mb, i meant the side ground special
Batman, Morty, Harley, and Bugs after the last patch by their respective players. And the most downplayed by PFG would be Shaggy and Harley.
Hard on the Batman. No matter if I played Marvin or ig I just can’t win
Harley is ass now since they've slowed the game.
Edit: she has one of the lowest win percentages. That proves it right there.
She's a very common character so a lot of bad players play her, that's why her win percentage is so low. Same with bugs
It seems like she's really not though. I never run into her, like ever. Out of 100+ matches, I've ran into MAYBE 4-5 times. She was much better in the beta. I mained her then and ran into her way more often.
If you see her only 4% of the time that means you see every other characrer only 3.84% of the time meaning you actually see her more than you see other characters
Yeah, I see her more than reindog, who I've never played against yet and I've only played against Velma once. I never said she was the least played. I said I see her significantly less than I did in the beta.
Jake
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I've seen a lot of people stop playing bugs bunny after the last patch. Which, in most cases, means they were just meta players who only play the PCs because of how strong they are. I'm a main Bugs since the beta, I agree with the nerf regarding the combo and I understand that the crate had too many hp, but going from 16 to 3 is excessive. halving the hp from 16 to 8 would have been better, and then trying to understand if it needed to be nerfed again. right now the chest is almost completely useless and due to these nerfs which lead to bugs having practically no combos and the almost complete uselessness of the chest, it leads players not to play it. I hope I nerf spam other characters especially those who have armor or shields
They reduced the safe hp to 3, but they made it so each attack only does 1 damage to it. So it needs to be hit 3 times to be destroyed, which is fair. Use to be 4 or 5 hits depending on the strength of your attacks.
the safe also takes damage simply by bouncing off a wall, the ground, or touching a flying projectile such as the cake. so I can assure you that 3hp are completely useless
As I stated, it's destroyed 1 or 2 hits sooner than before. Not as massive as you think. You're just actually able to play against it now.
I get it, you've never actually played bugs bunny mastering the crate setup.
Morty, Finn, taz and Rick especially rick as he has very strong loops and an infinite with jab jab sair
Jason mains
Batman. Most people who play him act like him so they don’t really defend themselves much
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