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Advertise this bullshit in your neighborhood, saw this bus add on wilshire and western
PhotoI think you’re right, he’s trying to use me, but I think I’m falling for it.
Contrary to the statistics that think tanks and the city push, people believe crime has gotten way worse and for ordinary people it actually may have. This city is ripe for a cherry-picking carpetbagger.
It’s very easy for crime statistics to be low when the police don’t show up or when they do tell you not to bother filing a report because the DA won’t prosecute
There are many ways that crime is measured. If it was simply a matter of police not doing their jobs the other measurements would show that. The reality is that crime is near an all time low while coverage of crime is magnitude higher than it was even a decade ago.
My car getting busted into and my stuff getting stolen doesn’t show up on any crime statistics. I’ve lived in this city for 32+ years, and it’s worse now than has been since the 90s.
Yes, murders and other hard felonies are down. Property crime, minor assault, vandalism all way up.
If you think it's worse now than the 90's you are wildly delusional. The difference is that where the crime is at has changed and you are no longer sheltered from it like you were as a kid.
Yeah, and that’s because of the endless stream of conservative media based around Los Angeles and its crime.
Crime was up in lots of places, the media doesn’t know how to make you click about that.
This might even be his office's budget since it doesn't say his name. He's just essentially advertising himself with OC, the state, and federal taxpayers money.
Damn that’s a crazy long term unlikely to pay off strategy. Seems like probably he’s dumb or has too much money or both.
Where I live In the OC law enforcement over responds to everything.
Damn, either you get a jackhammer or a feather when it comes to cops in SoCal
It’s why I left home in the OC. Now I have kids and the OC is looking pretty nice.
Do you think your kids will be immune from even more power tripping cops and DA's than LA? Something a cop or DA in one area would say "get outta here kids," another cop and DA in another area could arrest, charge, and ruin your kids life. But hey, if you think your kid will be immune and want to role the dice, have at it. That's definitely not something I'd want for anyone I care about though.
Why are your kids loitering and getting charged with crimes? Sounds like a you problem and not a location problem
I prefer a nice medium, but better than no response
Indeed. Over committing resources has a profound effect on some communities and individuals.
Bro where my friend works in OC, law enforcement doesn't do shit. People shoplift at his retail store all the damn time, and cops don't do shit
Meaning, they enforce the law somewhat.
There is a difference here. Perhaps three squad cars for a homeless guy just walking is a bit much. How about a family wearing head covering having a picnic then a couple squad cars drive by. It’s in an area you rarely see police. Four squad cars for two siblings having an verbal argument on our block.
STAY OUT OF ORANGE COUNTY LEBOWSKI
Stay out of my beach community, you bum!
Fascist!
The old man said I could take any rug in the house.
I mean I agree, you shouldn't be stealing wtf
But but… muh systemic oppression
Systemic oppression is a problem, but so is the rise in crime. Those two things can exist simultaneously. Idk why people act like you can only deal with one of those two things at a single time when you can absolutely deal with both at the same time. Our city, like many across the nation have a vested interest in giving the illusion that it can't. If it did, it would mean training police officers differently and raising standards and accountability. Currently, no large city is willing to do that.
Sadly there are too many narratives being pushed and nobody will compromise these days so we end up with nothing useful being done. The messaging around ACAB and "defund the police" has helped solidify opposition to police reform.
The slower moderate path you mention should be something we are all demanding as it's something that benefits everyone. It should not take more time to become a barber than a police officer, police officers should be held accountable and there needs to be better internal structures to investigate misconduct.
Sadly overly partisan politics tend to mean we don't talk enough about any of this and part of me believes this is entirely intentional.
As it is lower income communities are disproportionately affected by crime. Reducing crime and increasing trust in police in these communities would benefit those communities more than any other.
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You can choose not to work for your employer.
That's a bad example.
Right, it's so easy to just find a new job that meets your needs. People should just quit whenever they fancy and find their perfect job the next day.
Something something power dynamic
You’re right, workplace regulations and labor laws are just a handout to the greedy working class
Lived in LA county all my life and still don't get this "rivalry" against OC online. I don't even know anybody who cares irl. Is it just some thing transplants do to make themselves feel like they fit in?
Unless there's signage you can't tell when you cross between LA and OC.
It’s the arrogance from those who live in OC. They tend to look at us as vermin, diseased scum lol.
Rich coming from “silent fungus”.
Damn, OP got triggered by a tough talking bus advertisement.
Not OP, but this bus ad is all bark and no bite. People shoplift shit all the time in OC, and cops don't do shit.
(Source: friend is a manager of a retail store in Huntington Beach)
Why? Orange County wants to discourage crime coming in from LA.
most of the criminals stealing in orange county are from LA.
the 711 shootings in Brea. that guy was from Inglewood
So what you're saying is criminals tend to drive to more affluent areas to steal.
Yes and so our DA is sending a message to LA that it’s not worth it to come here to commit crime because we prosecute. I’m all for it, sick and tired of all the crime we’ve been experiencing and most of the time it’s people from LA county. That’s facts not feelings
Are you offended because it’s true? Look at not only the crime rate in LA County vs OC but prosecution rate. Out DA is a joke and doesn’t prosecute quality of life issues that he views as “victimless crimes”
People on this sub hating OC don't realize what it's like to have cities /police departments that actually respond. Recently I called a noise complaint and my local PD texted me to confirm with an Incident number, and ten minutes later a text saying they took care of it and please click the link to rate your experience.
Meanwhile someone hit my car and ran, have their full license plate and them hitting my car on clear as day video and when I called LAPD to check the status they told me my insurance should take care of it.
I got the same response in Huntington Beach.
Oh they actually picked up the phone??
But the thing is they don't. It may differ from city to city, but the retail store in Huntington Beach where my friend is a manager of gets shoplifted all the time, and nothing happens, they get away with it.
Our city by city approach to policing leads to radically different experiences/outcomes in different places that may only be a few miles apart. Also makes it very hard to make across the board improvement, as any positive change might have to be replicated hundreds of times in California alone.
It's mind boggling people agreeing with the LA DA.
They think everyone who steals is a Jean Val Jean needing bread to feed his family.
WTF is wrong with this sub? Have a heart. People deserve to loot and camp wherever they want without being told not to.
Yep. Lived in OC for a while. Much nicer than LA.
Hate to say it, but I think most tourists view of California is actually south OC and NOT LA outside of the far greater amount of things to do in LA.
OC is clean, beautiful beaches, virtually no visible encampments, and screams California.
Having grown up in a OC beach community, the differences are striking. What’s interesting about the encampments is we had homelessness obviously, but the absolute batshit crazy brand of homelessness was basically non-existent.
Every city in america that is a city in its own right (ie not a suburb of another city) has homeless, but the ones in LA, Portland, and Richmond aren’t only the “down on their luck” type of homeless you think of. A lot are gutter punks who enjoy this lifestyle and will refuse any alternative. They’re modern day gypsies.
I feel like LA has a much smaller contingent of this type of person than say San Francisco. Although, Venice is (was?) overrun by the career hobos.
How long ago was that? The batshit crazy homelessness is a new thing, and it’s everywhere now.
Moved to LA recently. Took my lady to do touristy things and she saw all the encampments and was like wtf. Took her to the oc..."now this is what I imagined LA to be like!"
Long Beach actually has an effective local police force, so the city looks nicer than LA does. I also don't hear about Long Beach PD regularly beating up citizens like LAPD.
Long Beach has money from oil and shipping and less area to spend it on. It’s why the entire downtown is brand new. Long Beach can also pivot to enact quick changes due to cash flow. For instance, to solve homeless people sheltering public restrooms they fitted them with speakers that blast loud opera music. It seems to be working. Venice can only dream of such a change as their public restroom situation is a nightmare.
I was in downtown LB yesterday and I agree with you. It was really clean, didn’t see any odd behavior, it was nice.
It's also on the local PD to actually arrest criminals. Long Beach is in LA county and is much nicer and safer than LA city, for example.
The DA is still at a county level though so…
I think Long Beach has a city attorney that files many of its own cases.
They do. I was a witness to an assault when I lived in Long Beach and the City Attorney’s office asked me for a written statement.
So does LA but city attorneys only deal with misdies. Juries here refuse to convict anybody of petty crimes and defense attorneys know that so it’s really hard to prosecute.
The police show up when you call them. I can’t say the same for Mar vista. Long Beach has more violent crime but It’s is mostly gang related and rarely targets random civilians. Long Beach doesn’t have a problem with random bus stabbings like LA.
Thankfully Gascon is on his way out.
our DA is so bad that his former boss begged us not to vote for him
I think OP is pissed because its advertising 40 miles away in a different county. Yes, I get people cross county lines to commit crimes but none of them are going to be swayed by a bus ad.
I don’t see the problem here? If you commit a crime you should be prosecuted. How else do you deter crime? Wish LA county was a strong as OC?
Why is it bullshit? It's bullshit that the LA county DA doesnt do his damn job and emboldens criminals to get away with what they want and just get a slip on the wrist.
It's bullshit because it's lying. My friend is a manager at a retail store in Huntington Beach, and people shoplift shit all the time and get away with it, and law enforcement won't do a damn thing about it. Huntington Beach at least basically doesn't do shit for property crimes.
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Look at the crime rates in the two places.
One place is working while the other isn’t.
Median hh income in Orange County: $109k Median hh income in City of Los Angeles: 76k
% in poverty OC: 10% % in poverty City of LA: 16.6%
OC population: 3 million City of LA pop: 4 million
You can see the demographic differences here, they are significant.
Yeash…those demographics would make racists salivate 😬
Nearly the same white and Latino population, a third of the African Americans and almost double the Asians.
To be fair, Villa Park is the only place I’ve ever had a gun pulled on me.
Racists will be racist regardless of whether the statistics align with their views or not
Is op mad at a campaign against stealing? Haha loser
If only LA would get on the same page.
Funny how they gotta advertise saying you’ll actually be prosecuted for a crime…seems like common sense but nooo
Imagine being OP and thinking that crime is good and thinking otherwise is bad and then posting it on Reddit like it’s a shared belief.
Are you completely out of your mind?
La could learn a thing or two from them!
At least Orange County is doing something right
Typical progressive idiot that's mad crime is punishable somewhere close to him.
I know right.. imagine defending these criminals.
The criminals are coming down from LA. Its why they advertise on billboards on the 405 south and across south LA
It's even more rich when you read LADOT's own advertising policy: "Advertisements promoting or opposing a political party, or promoting or opposing the election of any candidate or group of candidates for federal, state, judicial or local government offices are prohibited. In addition, advertisements which are political in nature or contain political messages, including advertisements involving political or judicial figures and/or advertisements involving an issue that is political in nature in that it directly or indirectly implicates the action, inaction, prospective action or policies of a governmental entity are prohibited."
I work with a media comapny that deals with Metro and their rules are strict. How did this fly under the radar?
It doesn’t expressly name a candidate or officeholder. That’s it.
It’s not Metro. It’s LADOT. Metro isn’t strict, either, really. I sued Metro over their advertising schemes and was able to show they were so haphazard in their application of their advertising policies that a federal court said they were acting unconstitutionally.
What a hero. Care to be more specific?
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It only has to indirectly implicate the action, inaction, prospective action, or policies of a government entity to be supposedly prohibited.
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I mean, exactly. That's why I argue all these broad prohibitions on so-called "political" advertising are unconstitutional.
Does that mean citing and/or enforcing law is "political"?
Who is being opposed or promoted?
Yes. They censor my client's ads that say things like "Ditch Dairy for Soy Milk" as political. If that is, this is. And the Orange County District Attorney's Office is being promoted.
"Ditch Dairy for Soy Milk" is the message. What is being opposed? Dairy. What is promoted? Soy Milk. Is it political? LADOT thinks so. My opinion? Could be. You're opposing an opinion and promoting a different opinion by advancing an agenda through public infrastructures.
"Crime doesn't pay in OC" is the message. What is being opposed? Nothing. What is being promoted? Nothing. Is it political? LADOT doesn't think so. My opinion? No. It's using a catch-all phrase to not commit crimes.
The OCDA is not being promoted as you're implying. If the OCDA is being promoted, then who is the company promoting the "ditch dairy for soy milk" message?
It’s not a fact though, it’s dumb political propaganda.
It's not an advertisement, it's a message to criminals. How are people even against this..
Because mommy and daddy keep them sheltered from the world.
This is an “I don’t know what I am taking about” answer. You clearly have no understanding of campaign finance law in any jurisdiction and you seemingly don’t understand advocacy either. Or advertisements. Or sentences for that matter. If, and this is a huge if, you were a lawyer you should at the very least identify what is and isn’t your specific area of expertise and clearly campaign finance law is not it.
Who is talking about campaign finance?
I like it
Same. Know if only we could do this
Why would anyone be offended by this? Since when is prosecuting thieves "bullshit"?
I'm glad at least someone is standing up to the scumbags.
The only problem is that the thieves this is addressed to most likely cant even read that sign.
Why do you give a shit what he wants to advertise?
It’s just ad revenue for the metro. Better than some personal injury lawyer
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It's about 30
Idk what the bullshit or the lies about this are…..
Imagine being mad at this 🤡🤡
I find it pretty funny that OC residents are indirectly paying for LA county public transit now
Well the goal would be to pay to keep crime out…I think that’s a fair trade off
I would love to fine one person who was planning on committing a crime in Orange County but saw this on a bus and was like nahhh nevermind I’ll do it here instead
We're laughing at this stupid shit down here in OC too.
Every time there's a crime posted in /r/orangecounty someone comments that the criminal must not have seen the billboards.
Bro my friend's retail store gets shoplifted like every single day in Huntington Beach, and nothing happens
When so many of the OC burglaries have been linked to crews out of LA, it makes sense to let them know on their own turf.
Its a fairly easy message.
Don't go to Orange County.
Tourists will not understand.
Homeless will not care.
The uninformed think they win.
The metro gets revenue.
Locals know its all bullshit.
is OP that dense? What's the problem here? Oh, that's right. OP saw the words "OrAnGe CoUnTy" 🥴 and developed a hemorrhoid on the spot.
What’s wrong with it?
The only person offended by this is a kleptomaniac
I think OP doesn’t get the ad.
I will never understand why this sub hates it when people publicize that they don't want crime in their neighborhood.
And it's quite obvious why he's putting those ads around LA County. A lot of criminals from LA County go to OC to rob and burglarize homes/stores. He's saying that crime doesn't pay in OC. Many of the high profile residential burglary suspects are LA gang members. And the recent OC 7 eleven robbery spree involved gang members from Compton and Long Beach. It's not hard to figure this out.
I think it’s because people travel from LA County to hit a lick on folks in Orange County
How much does that cost these days?
What is this 1820? 💀 Bro is fr beefing about other counties getting in his "terf"
So corny lmao
Good on them! They see what LA, SF and other cities have turned into and don't want OC to go through that BS.
Behind the Orange Curtain.
Never thought I would live to see the day that it’s controversial to say that crime is bad.
I wish LA was safer right now. It’s true, crime does not pay in OC. But in LA, the repercussions are minor or non-existent.
Lots of Orange County voters work in LA
Cry more
As someone whose friend works at a retail store in Orange County that constantly gets robbed all the time and the cops don't do shit about it....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yeah right get real.
Exactly. Anaheim had a bunch stash houses right near Disney about 10 years ago. They ended up leaving that area only because one of the house flipper shows on HGTV filmed the renovation of one. The couple was oblivious as to why the house had so many surveillance cameras and false walls. 🙃
I’d love to see this episode. You wouldn’t happen to have a link, would u?
No it was from 2016. I think the guy's name was Tarik.
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Being from Anaheim, this is the most Oc thing Oc can do .
The Orange Curtain is alive and well.
Good for them.
You seem like a useful idiot. OC DOES prosecute crime better.
It's really cute to see OC pulling this shit.
Just this year an OC judge shot his wife across the diner table, almost point blank. IIRC, that guy's just out there in the world until trial. No rush.
And then there's the MILLIONS that an OC supervisor gave to his daughter's sham nonprofit during peak COVID to provide services to Vietnamese community members... but she basically seems to have stolen it, then shit down the sham nonprofit instead of saying where the money went. She's not been charged with shit, or her dad.
They're gonna have to fix their little billboard there...
" OC.... if you're a public figure and you steal... they're not gonna prosecute."
Isn’t that like the law everywhere.
The OC DA has a personal vendeada for gascon ans is trying to help him lose re election
It seems ironic since there's still criminals from LA robbing businesses and residents all over OC. Obviously, the risk vs. reward doesn't deter what Spritzer thinks it does.
No doubt no criminals in OC
Maybe Orange County should focus on prosecuting their God, Dear Leader, Orange, MAGAman.
This is the most Orange County thing I’ve ever seen.
OP is a criminal
This is not what scares me away from Orange County 😂
Everyone knows the best way to get less people to see an ad is to post a picture of it online.
The TY on county makes it look like thank you.
How dare they insult our beloved DA!
Its like if every shoplifter in OC was from LA. When I first saw these ads at first I found it pretty normal since I first saw it on a Norwalk Transit bus, which I know has one route that did go partially into Orange County, but then I went to Glendale one day and saw them on the Glendale Beeline buses, I also saw them on DASH buses, neither both have routes going into Orange County, not even have routes that go close enough to Orange County, so whats the point with these ads? As I was saying its like they are assuming that most shoplifting crimes that happen within Orange County were done by suspects who are from LA county, its pretty weird.
Typical Republican culture war bullshit. If they cared about holding criminals accountable, they wouldn't be rallying behind you know who for President.
Yea not the guy charged with 90 felonies, convicted in a civil rape case who tried to overthrow the US government.
Exactly. The call is coming from inside the house when it comes to being soft on crime.
This is the hilarious. What is the issue?
A lot of conservative astroturfing going on in this sub
Idk what astroturfing is but I’m generally liberal leaning and I am all for telling LA criminals to stop coming to OC to commit crimes because we prosecute.
Bingo. Quite obvious too
The same ad is on a billboard on the 605 (or 710?) S... like is this for the criminals on their way to a caper in the OC? Are they supposed to see this ad and go "aww, gees, fellas we outta turn back! Orange County sounds like they really mean it!"
I think it’s a little ironic because, without crime, the DA would never have received the money needed to pay for that ad. It’s also super cringey but I agree with the premise: don’t steal (please).
This ad has me looking into moving. Intended purpose?
Damn OP, got something against justice? wtf is your problem
Is he using public funds to advertise?
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Sure? I don’t think the government should tell us who can speak and who can’t.
Ask him about the amount of well to do OC kids hooked on meth, heroin and fent
Spitzer is worse than Gascón in many ways. Stop buying into his propaganda.
Are OC tax dollars being spent on this? Seems like a stupid use of public money.
lol maybe this ad wouldn’t exist if all the thieves from LA county would only steal in LA , sounds like OP likes criminals
That OC DA wants a higher office. So he’s spending the money to say crime doesn’t pay where he is. He’ll need LA votes when he goes for it