Kanye on Drake writing 30 hours: I gave him a line and he wrote the whole rap. I wish he wrote all my raps"
Then i make myself a smoothie
Then me and wifey make a moooovie
like a sprained ankle boy I aint nothing to play with
I say, you the fuckin' best (ayy), you the fuckin' best (ayy)
You the fuckin' best (ayy), you the fuckin' best (ayy)
You the best I ever had (ayy), best I ever had (ayy)
Best I ever had (ayy), best I ever had
I say, you the fuckin'
Cyhi bout to put in his 2wks notice
Fr man CyHi wrote like half of Ye's shit just to never be mentioned ever
Shows how Kanye's brain works
ye brain vs joe brain is wild
Not to mention Rhymefest, who wrote Kanye’s best shit
Thank you!!! I've been saying this for years and everyone's like who? It was obvious when you listen to rhymefest.
To me the lyrical performances by Kanye after the first three records were always just pale imitations of what came before.
Only ever got brought up in reference to sicko mode
Kanye is a psycho, big Sean said that he was obsessed with drake. Im starting to think Kanye got caught by drake sniffing drakes used underwear at this point.
Drake 🤔
DRAAAAAAAKE???
So much dismissal of Drake in this thread man. 30 Hours is a damn good track, Kanye was flowing really well on it, and it's no surprise Drake wrote this, the bars are very obvious Drake bars.
You say you never saw this comin', well you're not alone
Million dollar renovations to a happy home
My ex says she gave me the best years of her life
I saw a recent picture of her, I guess she was right
Even the way it starts off, you know Drake wrote this, and it's damn good.
“You realize we at the Doubletree not the Aria / Only thing open now is Waffle House, girl don’t start with me” always screamed Drake to me
So elastic/fluid, mildy condescending. Definitely a drake bar
"I guess a blowjob is better than no job" Very Drake-like
Nah that's a superficial bar, very Ye like
“She say she a lesbian, girl yeah me too”
You telling me Drake doesn’t have dumb ass superficial bars?
That wasnt superficial it jusy didnt hit the way drake wanted it to💀
You can literally read these lines in Drake’s voice and it sounds legit
Now I kinda wanna hear the Drake version tbh
expedition was eddie bauer edition, driving with no winter tires in december - such a toronto mans bar.
It came off as non-kanye to me but I figured he was just doing something different, but now that I hear it's Drake it's pretty obvious
It’s weird with Ye because I never know how much of a track I can actually attribute to him. Same thing with Violent Crimes, one of the most beautiful tracks he’s ever made but is singing it all he did? And how many other tracks could you say the same thing for?
Kanye isn't judged on his writing skills, he's judged on his ability to produce the whole song
But at this point he doesn’t even produce a lot of his songs, or at least he isn’t the main producer
Yeah, when I found this out, I got off the Kanye train.
Lol yeah I know all the crazy stuff he said should've did it but as s producer myself, this was my main draw for liking him in the first place.
Yea the double standard between Kanye and Drake is real.
I mean drake goes out and says he's the greatest rapper for that you can't have a ghost writer. Whereas Kanye says he's the greatest artist
Not quite because drake isn’t producing his own songs
Kanye rarely produces nowadays even back then on graduation and he had credits
On 808’s he has a lot of co credits Mbdtf he had co credits Yeezus he did not produce And tlop he didn’t make any of those beats
He still arranges them tho and makes them actual songs, he’s got production credits on every song on TLOP btw? You can defo tell some of them he produced too
But every artist is arranging and making them actual songs that’s not a Kanye specific credit.
And he didn’t really make anything on tlop the credits are there a lot of that album is credited to Noah Goldstein and mike dean who added to what the featured producers provided.
Mike Dean is credited as co-composer, co-producer and co-writer on almost all Kanye songs.
For a long time they were a creative partnership, no different than any other musical group.
As time has gone on however, Kanye really adds nothing to the partnership and I think that is why Mike Dean has branched out so much since the TLOP Era. I think it is time he started getting credited for his contributions to one of the biggest musical acts in history.
This 100%
He definitely made some of the TLOP beats, Famous and FSMH were both originally ye sample chops
Dude he made Pusha Ts and NAS's last album what u talking about
Nasir is not nas last album lmaooo. That would be his latest album with hitboy.
And if you look at the credits of the pusha t record he didn’t really make the cudi record it was fnz who did the majority of the record. The other one was made with 88 keys in the early 2000’s
So because you say he didn’t produce on TLOP he didn’t? What about donda ?
I’m not just saying it there’s literal credits out there and Noah Goldstein talks about recording tlop
Donda he didn’t make anything either it’s literally deans sound as we saw in the credits and the donda livestream
Where are you getting these credits from cos all the ones I’m looking at have him on every song?
TLOP is when I think things went to a whole different level with Kanye's "collaborations"
I think he said it best: He has the best taste. He brings the best people in to produce a track and have him be the face (sound) of it. He said he's more like Steve Jobs in the discussion around design in the sense where he comes with a vision and ideas and I'm starting to learn he's like this with music too. I would have very little confidence in Kanye alone in a studio without assistance of any kind in today's music environment. Everyone is way too damn talented at specific things and his lack of musical ability would show.
You're literally crazy if you think Ye can't handle his own alone in a studio. Mans just doesn't have the drive for music anymore. He done it all in that field. Just the way it is.
I know I'll get downvoted for saying it but I think it's just a facade. Truthfully neither of us knows but all evidence points to it. Almost any great track from him can be linked to someone else lending the magic touch.. which is all fine, I pull up threads from 5 years ago and you can see how people have consistently moved the goal posts for him. Kanye can't play an instrument. "Oh he's not a musician, he's a producer". Well, but Mike Dean or Jon Brion did this and that. "Well, actually he's a great rapper and writer". But so and so wrote these songs. "Well, he's more of an overall artist and visionary." Okay, I'm not sure what you can say about that so I guess you can have that. I have other points of contention but I'll leave it at that. And this is coming from someone who had been a die hard since college dropout - Kanye literally was the sound of some of my most important years. I would defend Kanye time and time again against people who said he couldn't actually rap or this and that.
He was a producer before being a rapper, he still produced some albums during the kid see ghost era. I don't know his involvement with everything after TLOP. But I would bet that he is always at least the director, it's like movies, a director is a director, not a writer, an actor, a composer or a cinematographer, some are all of those, some are none
No hes definitely been judged and received credit based on his lyrics. And the dynamic changes , but i would like to believe hes got major influence on his bars
It's a beautiful piece of art, don't worry about what ideas came from what brain.
Attribution is only important for money's sake, and everybody is paid for. Mostly.
Who cares? He’s never claimed to be a top tier MC. He creates art with using all the resources he can get and that includes writers/producers/musicians etc.
“Top 5 MCs, you ain’t gotta remind me”
Of course he’s claimed to be a top tier MC. But yes, his real talent is selecting and steering the right people.
To be fair he wrote the majority of CD LR and Grad himself so claiming to be top 5 at that time was valid
Were you in the studio? How would you know anything
The credits, Kanye is known for crediting people for even the smallest contribution. Look at the credits on those 3 albums compared to something like TLOP
"skirt skirt skirt like a private school for women" - dude couldn't even come up with that all by himself? lmao
Sounds like a drake bar now I think about it
Corny ass comment. That’s a witty line and nowhere near the best bar on that song. The Drake hate has blinded y’all this is ridiculous
if drake doesnt want us to hate maybe he shouldnt suck
People really like to act like Drake can’t write when he has written for a lot of people.
Wait until he finds out Drake is Jewish
L M A O
Jews control all the media! I mean, just look who's behind my bars!
He said in this interview it’s not all Jewish people. It’s some of the ones in control, especially of his life, that are screwing him over.
I don’t think he makes this clear enough lol
Imagine replacing Jewish with “black” in your post.
Then being Jewish has nothing to do with them screwing over his lkfe
Now y’all acting like 30 hours is trash 😂😂😂 the hate for drake in unreal. Also wrote FSMH and countless of other Kanye tracks.
"Father had to stretch his hands out and get it from me."
Nah, if anybody is saying that they are fucking hating on god level mode. 30 hours is a classic.
i dont like kanye for his lyrical “skills”, i like him for his music…
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Kanye looking old
bro no pls don’t do this
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Then I get there and all the Popeye's is finished is definitely Kanye lol
30 hours one of my fav TLOP tracks
If only Drake wrote that good on his own records 😭 30 hours is so fire I almost can’t believe Drake wrote it
Listen to 7 am on Bridle Path. I slept on that one for way too long.
this that real music
something like “4pm in Calabasas” makes it obvious he wrote 30 hours
tbh just listen to all of drakes time/location songs
You’re so close… so close
Almost as if, you actually listen to his music, it’s… not bad??
his newest music has been somewhat "bad"
His CLB album showed a crack in the armor and that last Honestly NVM project? I don’t think anyone could say that these last 2 were anywhere near his best
Dude been a major figure in rap for 12-13 years. Dozens and dozens of solo hits and features.
yeah like idk I think we all recognize that drake is a good rapper that's why when he releases subpar music it's like tf cause we used to that good drake we got growing up. Seems like he lost his hunger to me but I'm always hoping he proves me wrong and drops another fire album.
Frfr the man literally dropped Care Package bc mad people were listening to YouTube and SoundCloud rips of his old songs and it was better than most artist’ new shit lol who does that?? I think he’s peaked but I hope he proves me wrong
Crack? He hasn't released a great album since IYRTITL (though I enjoyed More Life).
There’s been some inconsistencies but other than the last album which wasn’t even rap all his other projects have a lot of incredible gems.
and fair but an album with 30 tracks and some gems is a bad album imo. I thinkwe all know drake a good rapper that's why we hope he drops good music but the last two and last few for me imo haven't hit the same
Did I ever say Drake’s music was bad? I listen to Drake quite a bit and let me tell you - there is not a single Drake song released within the past 5 years that is on the same level as 30 Hours lol
Lol you definitely don’t listen to drake if you say that because I can name 10 in the past year. That wasn’t even the best drake verse that year.
in other words, you're mad drake wrote the record but you like the record lmfao!
Literally lol
Y’all gotta stop with the Drake slander, y’all niggas just be saying anything
Diplomatic immunity, 4pm on calabasas, 7am on bridle path, Tuscan leather. It’s not consistent but drake can spit when he wants too
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I would too if the guy was writing my hits lol
Drake must be laughing from his penthouse. Kanye ass sucking his dick and then simultaneously being anti-semitic and burning the bridge. It’s almost like Kanye doesn’t even know.
Drake’s not no Black Hebrew Israelite, he’s an actual Jew. That man was Bar Mitzvah’d. No way he’s still going to be rocking with Ye after this shit.
I would rather hear Drake rap than Ye but have Ye make/choose beats for Drake. I thought Yikes would've been even better if Drake rapped it
He sounds so stupid saying this
Truth hurts
Why does he sound stupid? Mans just speaking facts. It’s not even a new fact that drake wrote 30 hours, we been known this. So idk why everyone acting suprised. Wait till you find out he also wrote Father stretch my hands
Not about who wrote what. Stop defending him. He’s not gonna fuck you.
Jokes on you I ain’t even a Ye fan. Your just hatin on brodie cuz you cant stand the fact he’s giving Drake props.
This is so depressing. Every day we learn this entire empire of his "genius" is fake.
he’s never been shy to admit he uses writers and we been knew drake wrote the song. why is this news for anyone?
I guess a lot of people didn't know but yeah Ye told us back in 2016 on twitter that Drake helped write this song.
There's "helping" and then there's writing the whole thing for him.
it’s obvious from the flow and lyrics it was mostly written by Drake.
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That was literally what Ye said in the vid. That drake did write the rap. He gave in the video the explicit example of the Victoria Secret bar. Did you watch the video?
This is Reddit, of course not
So shut the fuck up. If you are gonna put in your views without even considering the context of whats happening.
Fr. I’m just a lurker of this sub bc y’all be on one usually 💀
But it’s not like Ye has ever had a writing prowess. He’s not known for that. He’s always been a producer first. He can write fine enough and he makes it work for him, no doubt, but it’s not his calling card.
Damn you’ll be pissed when you realise consequence , common and trav all wrote a bunch for Kanye then. How do you not know this. Ye has never hid that he uses a bunch of writers. People just give him a pass cause he’s an amazing producer
Wait until you learn Kanye hasn’t done hands-on production in like a decade and just “executive produces” too lmao
lol, when did this start?
you can hear his production on the last pusha T albums, he still got it.
But it's clearly that the music/art direction is from him.
Which is great, but I also think it's a big reason why his music has sucked since TLOP.
The less hands on he's gotten with his music, coupled with the weird religious shit, all the other mental health stuff, the worse it's gotten.
I don't know the in-depth story but TLOP is the first time I really remember a billion people working on a single Kanye song becoming the norm. I always knew that Consequence and Rhymefest helped write a bunch of his classic stuff from CD-MBDTF but I feel like TLOP is when the 'collaboration' went to a whole new level.
Common and trav have never or very very rarely wrote for Ye… there’s better examples you could use like cyhi
I love his music, but Travis Scott is very similar to Kanye in this regard. I'm always skeptical as to how much of his music Travis actually writes/produces anymore.
Y'all sound stupid fr fr how does this have 60 upvotes man lmaooo
Bruh he is a producer! What don't y'all understand about that?
Barely even that nowadays lol
I assume you did not watch the documentary.
He don’t even write his own lyrics smh, no parties in la is my fav verse from his cus it was almost self aware but now I’m thinking someone just wrote it for him.
That one has been rumored to be fully written by Kendrick.
Says who? Kim tweeted Kanye wrote it while on a plane. Plus in the verse it literally says “I know some fans who thought I wouldn't rap like this again, But the writer's block is over
"38 year old, 8 year old"
Yep that was the last time I heard Ye coherent, now i don’t think he’d ever say he’s a man child with rich people problems.
Damn
Nmpila is one of the only verses we can confirm he wrote fully by himself in recent years
that sucks so much
How upset are you ?
First off why does this suck? Secondly y’all really weren’t fans if this is somehow news to you
It sucks to know he disnt come up with the bars it's less meaningful . it makes the song worse to me. If it doesn't for you that is awesome
he also didn’t write violent crimes or ghost town
He doesn’t write shit anymore lol
actually now that i replay the song in my head…it really does sound like drake lines for the most part besides a few sections
Love to see ye talking good about drake. They a fire duo
Does Drake have a gun pointed at his head or is this just kanyes way of apologising to the Jewish community?
Edit: further clarification for who was had the gun to the head. Also this is a joke.
He’s been saying this though. Even in his Drake “diss” on LOTP he talks about how he wants Drake to write for him again.
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It was a joke, damn
Is Drake even apart of a Jewish community?
Didn’t chance write waves too?
We need a deep fake Drake do this track.
Kanye knows drakes the goat. Love it. It’s always funny to see someone’s favorite artist praise another one so highly. Leaves drake haters so upset and confused.
can someone share the interview i know youtube took it down, was anyone able to save it or find it somewhere else
Antisemite trash can't even write his own lyrics. The respect I once had for this man is nonexistent. Bloated has-been.
Aight yea he’s officially lost it😭😭
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Kanye never switched up his narrative regarding Drake’s talent though. He’s always had admiration for the mans rapping regardless of any beef they had.
Lmao i saw a comment saying that “kanye was a better rapper than drake”
Drake ain't write Gorgeous or No Appalled or Diamonds in Sierra Leone or We Major
Y'all letting this get to y'all heads too much
Drake didn't write it
Lmao.. and walked down the hallway to where he has his ghostwriters chained to the wall and told them to start writing lolll
Drake is obviously talented, this shit slaps
This is the worst thing he has said yet. My favorite Kanye song made by fucking Drake.
😂
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If you want an artist that writes all of the stuff they rap then Kanye was the wrong choice to begin with. He was a producer who decided to become a rap artist. Even the hits on his first album had writers.
I didn’t say Kanye writes all of his stuff..I just didn’t expect one of his better songs to be written by Drake of all people
Of all people? Drake is known for writing for many A list artists Kanye is just one of them.
Kanye just recites what is written for him.
Kanye this is too far
Now the question is, who wrote it for Drake to send to Ye?
People actually are proud to have ghostwriters now. Rap is crap smh
Who else thought that Wayne and others were chopping Drake’s lyrics until now?
Drake and Wayne have written for each other in the past. What a lot of people don't understand is that there are plenty of artists like Drake who are capable of writing by themselves but will still get help from co-writers or even use a ghostwriter.
Michael Jackson is the best example of this. He was a great writer he wrote Billie Jean, Beat It, etc... But he didn't write Thriller. Just because you don't write all your own songs doesn't mean you can't write. There are so many good writers who don't write all of their lyrics.
I understand that part, but I was under the impression a lot of Drake’s hits were written by a ghost writer
Because you listen to twitter and Reddit without researching for yourself.
Drake gave QM credits on IYRTITL and Weeknd only helped 4 songs on Take Care. People would have you believe that Weeknd wrote all of Take Care and QM wrote all of IYRTITL.
I didnt use Reddit for that information. Other rappers have eluded to it before as a diss so I took that more as gospel than anything else.
I also haven’t given it much thought in years because I don’t really care for Drake that much so if you ask “who” I’m not going to remember the song name.
It’s not that serious, but Ye for example only has himself on some songs when clearly he had help writing it. So, I don’t use credits as the only answer either.
This why I removed him from my top 10 all time. Can’t be in the conversation if you have writers like that.
This is disrespectful to Pusha & CyHi who are seasoned all over MBDTF
Pusha more like Take-a.
Here we have a reacher, don't act like Push didn't ether Drake.
It's true, Drake had a son. GG, yo. Push really channeled his inner US Weekly for that one. Now Drake's son is already better off than Push. Meanwhile he's still running being wacko Kanye.
yeezus christ. kanye lookin OLD
Idk why but hearing Kanye gushing over Drake like this makes me uncomfortable. Like he’s ruining one of the few parts of his legacy that still has some sort of credibility.
What part of his legacy does this ruin?
Showing love to an artist that is one the goats of this generation ruins his legacy?
Drake doesn’t even write his own raps
I hit the gym, all chest no legs