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Former Delta Force Operator Alluding to Torturing Iraqi Detainees on Instagram
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What happened at camp Nama?
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Thanks for the quick answer
Do you have a source for this? You’re accusing someone of war crimes. Someone who is generally well respected amongst the SOF community.
Love the long tab
Just cos they Delta Force don't mean they ain't fucked up, corruption is rife within the 'Tier 1' units
So true, Bad apples are everywhere.
How is torturing people corruption
Scroll through these pictures. This isn't corruption?
Who cares if he was torturing terrorists
Bc they’re meant to be held to a higher standard as elite units. Also, it’s a bit retarded for Americans to bitch about it happening to them then turn around and do the same shit.
How does that caption allude to torture?
It doesn’t.
Omg sus
Maybe they should ask nicely. These same people would cut your children's heads off in front of you and burn you alive while filming the whole thing. Terrorists should be exterminated like cockroaches.
Yes but two issues one, "we" are supposed to be better and 2, this shit is corrosive to units and the wider military. Look what happened to units where rough stuff turned to outright torture etc, discipline and good order breaks down because in for a penny in for a pound and all that. It's what happened with Eddie Gallagher for example, no one reigned him in and he continued on and on.,
You have rules or you don't, and once the rules get broken and as importantly are seen to be broken with no consequence then you're literally depending on people natures to maintain discipline....
Another issue is that information obtained under torture can be unreliable. I mean hurt someone enough and they may say anything to stop the pain.
There is training to teach people this kind of thing.
All valid. I also don't agree that soldiers themselves, Unit or otherwise, should be doing actual interrogations. I have no issue with water boarding, stress positions or many of the other advanced interrogation methods by those trained to do so though. I hadn't read about the electo shock/ cattle prod stuff before just now and do agree that it's crossing the line to actual torture. While we're at it, I also believe that we could have killed OBL in Tora Bora, made our statement, and gotbthe hell out of the Middle East. That's not insanely profitable for those in power though.
Didnt Shrek torture detainees?
source ?
Would love to hear a follow up on this as well
Someone on this sub posted that Shrek was sent back to SF to run the CIF teams because he did some shit with prisoners. Thats why i phrased it as a question.
Source or GTFO. That’s a major accusation.
My source is this sub, and thats why I phrased it as a question
Fair enough… but what’s the source? You’re accusing someone of war crimes based off a “re-tweet” on an online forum.
Bro, read this thread, any post about him it comes up. Go look
I read that. I want a source other than someone else in this thread posting those same major accusations.
Well the Intercept and NYT only write about SEALs so good luck
That’s not the point. You’re reiterating a serious unsubstantiated rumor that the first commentator posted, also without evidence. Why are you doubling down on that unless you want to spread what is, by all accounts, a rumor?
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You consider maybe he promoted out of his position by 2004?
“Didn’t McPhee get kicked outta Iraq for tasering the shit out of Iraqi detainees? The stuff at Camp Nama was pretty messed up”
“He was kicked out of Delta around the same time A Squadron got in trouble for the Camp Nama stuff, but it hasn't been confirmed that it was him. Would actually seem a bit unfair imo if everyone was involved.”
They are all bad apples and this doesn’t make Americans safer
No way?
Good.
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Didn’t McPhee get kicked outta Iraq for tasering the shit out of Iraqi detainees? The stuff at Camp Nama was pretty messed up