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They don't need hand-holding, they're skilled enough to control the whole machine they paid for.
I thought this, too, when I first got my BMW roadster in my mid 20s. Those cars give you a tremendous amount of confidence because of how they do everything you ask of them, right away, with little drama. You start to feel like your instincts and the car's performance are enough to let you handle anything.
Then one day when leaving work I gave it a bit too much gas when turning left in an empty intersection, spun and messed up my rear wheel against a curb.
DSC and Traction Control have never come off again after that. And they've saved me many times since on wet roads. Even when I push the car those things only kick in when I'm doing something genuinely stupid, so it's not like having them turned off is going to make driving more fun on public roads. There's no reason to ever turn them off unless you're at a track or a skid pad.
There's no reason to ever turn them off unless you're at a track or a skid pad.
Really? There's no reason to turn them off?
Know it all redditors that think in absolutes...
Why do you think they give you the button up front and easily accessible? Just to please the 20 year olds that think they have the skill?? lol
You probably think all cars now-a-days should be awd with the power available.
I couldn't help but notice you didn't provide a reason.
You're probably going to say something like being stuck in mud or something. Completely irrelevant to the topic of driving fast on public roads.
I have absolutely no idea what you mean by the awd and power comment.
snow
BMW only recommends partial deactivation of traction control for snow conditions, and only when driving through unplowed snow, heavy slush, or if using chains. They never recommend turning ALL traction control and stability control aids off unless you're on a track.
You must have never driven through actual snow then
Just letting you know what BMW themselves say about the matter.
dude, get some experience before chiming in. The manual will say stupid shit for "Saefty" reasons. BMW also recommends to wear your seat belt no matter what, but do you put your seat belt on when just moving car from garage to drive way?
We're right back at square one, someone who paid for the whole vehicle and IS going to use it dammit!
Have fun.
Hey dumb dumb why do you think the button is front and center??
lol
So it can be partially deactivated when needed, like the manual says. You have to hold it down for like 10 seconds to FULLY turn it off, which again, it doesn't recommend.
It’s 3 seconds. Dude you don’t get it. Never mind
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Hi. Me again.
really? you're that type of person? lol
dude you are describing one scenario in snow; starting from a stop.
What about when you are already moving?
if you keep traction and stability control on in the snow then as soon as it detects slip, it's going to cut power, that's not good when you know how to control your car. Keeping momentum is the name of the game in snow (other than the obvious of knowing how to control your car...).
You said there's no absolutely no reason to ever turn off traction and stability control because you once lost control i dry conditions lolol. I named obvious answer that I thought even a know-it-all redditor would understand. I guess I was wrong.
You are not the authority of driving and your experience doesn't automatically determine everyone else's. Get over yourself
Ok, yeah, exactly what I thought you'd say.
Not relevant to the discussion. Thanks for being antagonistic for no reason, though.