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Yeah, and this opinion of OP doesn't stop to think about other reasons that are known to affect bears.
Granted CWD is a big fear of mine, but I don't see the clear thought out idea from OP.
You can basically assume it is. It's just random chance. CWD in cows is called Mad Cow Disease and that has transfered to people who ate infected cattle.
They are similar prion diseases but they aren’t the same disease in different animals. CJD is distinctly different from CWD
The protein structure is different, but the mechanism is the same. vCJD evolved from Mad Cow disease and was likely transfered from eating infected animals. That same mutation can occur from CWD. Just like it can also spontaneously manifest. It's all a rare roll of the dice. You can choose to roll the dice more with who knows what odds by increasing your exposure to variants. All we know is the mechanism is there, not how likely it is to form.
I mean besides seeing that a deer is infected with prions is there a way to determine how something got a prion disease? I’m genuinely asking.
I think the problem I have is the “basically assuming” part. That seems too eager to blame it on a particular cause. That being said if I killed a deer and it tested positive for CWD I wouldn’t eat it. I just mean that assuming the poor condition of this bear came from CWD seems to be jumping the gun.
To be fair haven't done the research on bear neurological Diseases but due to being in canada lots of information is blocked by the government and not accessible and think it's quite odd. Recently I read an article of bird flu transferring to dairy farmer from infected milk getting in his eyes. He survived but did indeed get H1N9. Everyone is afraid of losing work from getting sick so only volunteers got tested. Info I find is limited till it's too late
CWD is ungulate family only, no? Swear I’ve read that quite a few places. Bears it is encephalitis I’m pretty sure
Non related family but all live and hunt in the same region and deer and fish is all that's really available
You're saying that in Banff.. Bears can only eat Only deer and fish due to other food being unavailable? Lol
CWD developing in a year is unlikely.
CWD jumping species is near inevitable.
Well I had been eating dear for the first time in 2020 and on so it could have been contaminated but it seems I can't find any info on anyone actually testing ppl besides saying don't eat it and get it tested first if testing is available in your country or area. Medical systems here are extremely slow and discriminatory depending on what Dr's or nurses one gets. Seen some ppl get sent away with stage 2/3 Pneumonia. Then go elsewhere and be held for weeks to recover. I myself got a sprained neck from a nurse but was blocked from reporting due to her clearing witnesses first and hidden name tag
The highest likelihood of exposure to CWD is handling anything in contact with cerebrospinal fluid. The odds of being exposed to CWD (or any other mad cow type prions) via muscle tissue are extremely small.
I sure hope so
This is poor information. There’s no clear link between cwb and the bear, and there’s never been a single reported case of a human contracting cwb. As best as science can tell it’s not possible for it to cross into humans.
But there is mystery of chronic wasting in humans and I find my main concern was seeing maybe 3-10 suicides and random deaths for 2 years but then a good hunting season in 2022 and then over 20 this year had to go no fb because it was obituary after obituary every few days lost track of the deaths in a small region. I don't have all the info on here rn of all the articles I read on the different Diseases. I saw a main symptom in deer was suicidal behavior. Personally I ate a deer I'm not sure was tested or sickly looking and have lost 120lbs in a year. I'm hoping it's something else but kinda worried tbh and like some science info from anyone if it's possible or if they have testing for humans
Hate to break it to you buddy, but suicide has a lot more causes than Chronoc Wasting Disease.
Buddy if you’ve lost 120lbs in a year not meaning to you need to go to the doctor ASAP. I’m serious right now.
I’m calling BS on op’s story. 120 pounds in a year would most likely just kill you. Between muscle breakdown and the fact most people don’t have that much fat period, you’d just be dead.
Also if they did lose that much in a year, their doctors wouldn’t be “refusing tests” they’d be hospitalizing them immediately.
Buddy I have been so many times but they won't give me any answers or see the test results. In my province thyroid testing is blocked till 35 unless pregnancy happens. I was supposed to get a stomach scope in February but am on the waitlist because they had shift change and I got discharged with a non covered prescription to lower stomach acid. I have been in the hospital 3 times since moving closer to Dr's and more hospitals and have had 3+Dr's appointments. CT MRI 2EKG ECG. So many urine and blood test but have to ask for certain things to be tested or they will not be. All the times I was in hospital I've been discharged by shift change. I did see Dr's looking at patient xrays and they kept going back to mine and had a few ppl gather around it then discharged me 5 minutes later. Managed to get a few pictures of it that were kinda concerning
That's like saying smoking doesn't cause cancer in 1922. There weren't any studies showing it caused cancer, but they figured out it does.
CJD is probably contracted from consuming animals with CWD.
Those are two different diseases.
BSE and CJD are two different prion diseases, but there is strong evidence that you can contract CJD by eating contaminated meat.
Here's one of many sources%20is%20likely,similar%20prion%20disease%20to%20CJD.) backing ne up. The truth is that I've done a lot of research on the subject and the fact is that it's really hard to test for CJD because most of the time you can only tell by examining the subject brain. Not many people allow their deceased loved ones to have their brain removed for science. It's very likely that Alzheimer's, which has had a dramatic rise in recent decades, is actually misdiagnosed prion diseases.
I’ll agree with most of that. I’m pretty sure cjd can be contracted from mad cow, but that’s not the same as cwd. Alzheimer’s is such a strange mystery, the big cognitive brain problems are still very sadly a mystery for the most part.
I have done actual research on prion diseases, so there's a good chance I have a better understanding of the nature of the diseases than most people.
90% of CJD cases are what's known as "sporadic CJD." Which means it has no known cause. The obvious answer would be consuming the flesh of a cow or deer with BSE or CWD. The issue is that it takes about 2 years for neurological symptoms to surface, so it's not easy to track down the source.
Also, there are huge forces that oppose the research, such as big cattle companies, who would suffer tremendously if proper testing was implemented. They've seen what happen to mink farms and sheep herds when they develop scrapie and TME. The beef industry would be crippled.
Read "Braint Trust: the Hidden Connection Between Mad Cow and Misdiagnosed Alzheimer's Disease"
The book explains the complete detailed history of prion disease research.
It seems to be consistent that prion disease take at least 2 years in most animals to develop neurdegenerative symptoms.
Holy imma give my library a call n pick it up
Fear mongering. Fearing CWD, is understandable. But claiming there's a species jump because a black bear had to be euthanized due to a "neurological disorder" is off-base. It's well know that bears suffer from encephalitis and potentially other neurological conditions. The fact the reporter/author of the article actually speculated on CWD is pretty ridiculous.
I’m sure this has been asked and answered but have any cases been seen in humans and are there cases of humans consuming game that is positive? Or if it can jump to humans at all? I don’t know shit about medicine but this shit scares me. I’m scared for my local deer herds it’s been so awesome last few seasons in Jones OK.
No "seen" cases but in mainly white populated areas there are warning of signs but no info on testing. In native areas I had not seen any warnings of CWD. There were also no posted warnings when there were water boil advisorys. I definitely had noticed weight loss for some ppl before suicide or other causes of death (heart attacks cancers strokes) very common since nearest hospital would be 100km-200km. (Safer hospital was an extra 200km) neurologist is an additional 400-600km away. Wait list is 3 years. Not sure if they have testing
They test at my processing place I THINK so but I’m not sure. There are a lot of warnings though on the wall there.
Is it in canada? Not sure about if they do have testing or not but definitely think it should be necessary
Thats terrifying honestly
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I’m not saying that you’re wrong because I don’t know enough to do so, but you’re kind of leaping to conclusions here. Nothing you’ve posted shows any link between the bear and CWD. Are they testing the bear for CWD? If CWD is transmissible to humans I would definitely want to know but this feels like fear mongering to me.