Lets say someone with great fortune had a vendetta against Ging and decided to offer the Zoldycks a contract to kill Ging. Would they even accept it? Or succeed if they did accept?
Remember silva said one of the spiders wasnt even worth the pay of if they know someone is a tough SOB they would decline.
I think he just meant that particular job overall was too tough. He didn't just have to kill a spider, but he was drawn into a battle with Chrollo that was serious enough that it was revealed that Chrollo uses stolen abilities.
I mean the same issue might apply, remember Gin is seemingly so proficient at Nen he can recreate a Hatsu after seeing other people use it once, as far as we can tell that’s not even a power, that’s just raw skill. And that before we address the issue of even finding the guy before he decides to get the client to drop the hit one way or another. If they think there’s no way to get the job done in a way that actually results in them being paid they might just refuse.
It just means that the pay wasn't enough because the job proved to worth more. Remember Zeno said that they don't mind dying because it's business for them
But didnt Silva and Zeno take up the contract to kill the spiders/Chrollo in the York New City arc? Where was Silva's principle then?
They had a side contract that basically cancelled out killing Chrollo.
They were paid better this time so it's actually worth it?
I guessed it was enough to be worth it, yeah
Chrollo hired illumi to kill the people that hired to kill him. Lol
Yeah but that’s irrelevant. Silva and Zeno had no way of knowing that Illumi would finish his job first, thus making their own obsolete. They went in will the full intention of completing their mission if that did not happen, meaning they thought that the price was worth the mission in this instance.
The Ten Dons probably offered wayyyy more money than whoever hired Silva to assassinate one of the Spiders in the past.
Maybe you should finish that arc? lol
They didn't know Chrollo can steal nen abilities which mean he could really harm or even kill one of the Zoldycks. Plus Illumi killed the Ten Don so those 2 ended up not needing to finish Chrollo.
Silva definitely knew Chrollo could steal hatsu
Silva did know that Chrollo can steal Nen abilities. He warns Zeno about it at the beginning of the fight, before Chrollo had displayed any usage of Nen.
but if you would pay what they want I'd say they're gonna go for it
No doubt. But on a diff note, is ging worth killing? I mean someone has thought of getting netero killed. But is it going to be worth it? We will never knowncuz were still on hiatus lmao
it basically depends only that person would want ging to die if he has any personal issues and the type of person ging is I'm pretty sure he has MANYYY enemies
They'll probably be like: "Sure, we'll try if we see him." They won't actively look for him.
Remember, Ging is basically impossible to find. Phone call maybe, but you can't tell his location from that, if he even picks up. You only get a 'chance' from him if you are acquainted with him and he gives you the task of finding him. This may be the hardest hunter mission for any hunter wanting to be acknowledged by him, and it would take years to accomplish. Random hunters/public like Zoldyck? No chance. He leaves no trail or hint that will point to his current whereabouts, no info about him online, as tough to track as a country's president.
Also, Ging probably would win, simple as that. Man's at his peak. Knowing his personality, he'd probably walk to them and laugh at them, ending their search for them.
yeah, also grandpa zoldyck mentions in the chimera arc that komugi wasn't in the briefing, which implies they receive the intel from the client as part of the job — and this is taken into consideration when deciding to accept it or not. hire them to kill ging would probably come with zero information as to where tf he is, making the job already insanely tasking and hard — all this before even having to fight one of the strongest nen users in the planet. theres not enough money available to make this worth it lol
I always thought (and I assumed everyone else thought the same) that it was Netero that hired Zeno for the job
it was, he mentions to netero how komugi wasn't in the briefing after they find her injured. but netero hired him to separate the king, not as an assassin
Cheetau wasn't their target and Silva just ROFLMFAO stomped him dead.
fucker just popped by the hunter's office during the election as if he was there for a boardroom meeting
for all the mystique about gin he has a tendency to swerve between obnoxiously hard to find or just turning up after abandoning his son for milk
They wouldn’t even fight a phantom troupe member ging is eons above them no shot they would accept that
That’s not what they said. They said that the contract wasn’t worth it. They would fight the Troupe for enough money…like when they fought Chrollo a few years later.
I just rewatched the scene he said the job wasn’t worth the price and told all his kids to stay away from the phantom troupe. So clearly there are points where if a person is to tough they wouldn’t accept the contract. If only 2 of the family members were allowed to accept the contract on a phantom troupe member, than ging would completely be off the table
You’re still misinterpreting the scene. Telling kids not to take the contract doesn’t mean the adults won’t for the right price. And again, they did. And on the head, too.
And the entire reason the contract wasn’t worth it was because of the other Spiders, not because the Spider they killed was particularly strong. To get to that Spider, Silva had to get through Chrollo and the others, and a one-versus-several is not exactly good. Maybe in Dragon Ball, but not in HxH. I think Chrollo always travels with two other Spiders—Hisoka said something to that effect—so it would’ve been Silva against three Spiders.
Ging being “off the table” because they both went after Chrollo is a leap. We still don’t actually know anything about Ging and how strong he is, beyond that he is intelligent and probably strong, and his reputation doesn’t exactly proceed him anymore than Chrollo’s does as the head of the Phantom Troupe. I highly doubt Ging is notably stronger than Chrollo plus two other Spiders in a group fight.
He told illumi to not take the contract and he was an adult at the time so clearly he just doesn’t want his kids going after the phantom troupe regardless of age. Also it doesn’t exactly mean Silva had to fight three at the same time, chrollo did say we meet again but this could still mean that he had a properer 1v1 fight and could of possibly been tracked down by someone like shulnark. He could of 1v3 but I think there is a good chance he could of got a 1v1 as well. Even if he didn’t I think that only shows more about how much he doesn’t want to take risky contracts I don’t think chrollo was nearly as strong at the time as he was now I mean if he wasn’t able to injure silva in a 3v1 but was able to hold his own in a 1v2 I think that would indicate a heavy power increase. But even without the buff silva still told his kids to stay away from the troupe. Also usually the phantom troupe is split up but Silva told them to not take any contracts, meaning if they were in a group or not. I don’t think ging would snap his fingers and win but I do believe he could take care of chrollo and 2 others and still leave a good amount of his power on the table. I also think this can be indicated by the way the storyline is being set up chrollo is likely gonna face hisoka with two phantom troupe members and I can’t see hisoka just dying instantaneously, I can even see hisoka winning. However even with hisokas buff i still believe there can be a clear gap felt in between him and ging. I just don’t think fighting a freecs is on the table for the zoldycks
Why wouldn't they? If they get paid enough, of course.
Yeah I feel like people aren't understanding their ethos at all. The idea that one of the spiders "not being worth the pay" does not imply that they prefer to avoid strong fighters, it's that if the bounty is actually high enough they will do it regardless of who it is.
With the spiders you also have to take into account that if the job is for one you still will have to deal with the others. Either to get your target or because they're coming for blood.
Bro who is fighting ging. Literally no one in that family stands a shot. Even Zenos grandpa way out his prime
You're thinking about this from a reader's perspective. The Zoldyck's don't give a shit about your power levels.
Like you said Silva said himself phantom troupe members are not worth the pay and told all his kids to stay clear. This seems to signifie any pay or else he probably would of gave a set amount
Their entire existence revolves around their occupation as assassins. And being an assassin implies compensation for their work. If the compensation is adequate then they will perform the job.
Therefore implying that there exists a target for whom no pay will properly compensate said work would literally infringe on the family's centuries of pride in being the best at what they do.
obviously no other family would take a bounty on ging that’s not a threat at all. Silva told his kids to not take a bounty on a a phantom troup member and it seems pretty obvious the no zoldyck could compete with ging
You're still misunderstanding. It's not about their competition; it's about their pride. And Silva is telling his small child that because he's the future head of the family, i.e. he is not cleared to accept a contract like that.
If kilua ain’t clears to accept that contract no zoldyck is clears to accept a contract vs ging
Bro, they're assassins. This isn't DBZ where they challenge everyone to an honorable duel. If they perceive someone to be a big enough threat they would 100% go the avenue of subterfuge and use the infinite creative potential of nen to poison them in their sleep or some shit.
killua is the head so the family goes through great lengths to keep him safe and control him hence why illumi put a needle in his head. this also means that just because he isn’t allowed doesn’t mean the milluki or illumi aren’t allowed. another thing to mention is we don’t know how strong ging is. at best we could say his potential matches that of gon but even so there’s no evidence to suggest he’s as strong as adult gon not that power matters in hxh as strategy plays a much more major role. another thing to consider is killua and gon had similar potential both being 1 in a 1,000,000 (or was it 1 in 100,000) so its fair to say the silva or zeno may have similar potential to ging and it’s not impossible for them to win 2v1 or even 1v1 depending on the scenario and how powerful ging actually is. i’d say what would really make ging threatening is how intelligent and thoughtful he is. despite his headstrong he thinks things through and is really good at making predictions and setting his plans in motion as we seen in the election arc. another thing is how experienced and talented he is with nen being able to replicate and enhance leorio’s punch.
We literally don't know anything about Ging as a fighter except that he is one of the best in Nen. But nobody has said that the Zoldycks aren't at the top either.
They are strong no doubt but they would have no reason to fight someone like ging when all the zoldycks we have seen so far wouldn’t stand a chance
We have not seen a thing from Ging to claim zoldycks wouldn't stand a chance.
Ight if you think ging can be taken down so easily tell me who you think accepting the request
I also didn't say anything about "easily". The whole point is that we don't fucking know. It's not an answer "he can be taken down" or "he can't be taken down", it's that we can't say right now.
I swear to god people don’t understand that we don’t know anything about a character until they actually do shit. It’s like they expect to know, and pretend themselves to know, literally everything they can do the moment they show up.
Bro it’s like saying they would take a bounty on don freecs. We don’t know how strong he is, all he’s done is just explore half of the dark continent. It’s just obvious with reputation and storyline setup that ging is stronger than any person alive in the show we have seen
Sure, whatever you say.
Ehh we haven't seen any evidence of that. Is he agile, smart, and great at hiding? Yes. But stronger than the Zoldycks or Netero? Ehh not sure yet
first zigg zoldyck has also been to the dark continent so if that’s your measurement then the zoldycks match up nicely. another thing is killua zoldyck and gon freecs have similar potential so it’s fair to argue previous heads and powerful figures like don and zigg are on a similar level as well.
We have seen 0 feats of Ging's power. We have heard he is among the Top 5 Nen users in the world. But it is entirely possible Zeno and Silva might be able to kill Ging much like they tried to (and were about to) kill Chrollo.
You think chrollo and ging are on the same level?
well we haven't see any big feats we don't know his potential neither so we can't decide
If you think there is a possibility they are equal than I don’t know what to tell you
There's always a possibility. This is Hunter x Hunter, my friend. It has the best powerscaling in the industry. Who said Ging had to be top 5 Nen users in terms of combat? What if he was way more utility oriented? I suggest that you stop acting so superior and instead stop making random assumptions. Zeno, the previous head of the family, and undoubtedly top 5 Nen users in the series with feats we have seen thus far, was about to die just to kill Chrollo. And Chrollo used a single ability. Just think about that.
even if it's hunter x hunter, ging has the reputation of being strong so I'm sure he will be.
I’m acting superior 😂. Bro I don’t think this is at all a surprise to say ging is stronger than chrollo. You can believe chrollo is stronger if you want, I just think I you are being misguided to what the story’s intentions are. ging is currently chasing the greatest hunter of all time who is his ancestor. Chrollo is right now doing a 12 vs 1. I don’t think it’s that hard to tell how they are setting up the story
Okay, since you're so convinced that it's the story's direction, tell me where the story tells us Ging is top 5 strongest characters in the verse. Or even gives us a hint of his strength. He could have survival, utility oriented abilities. That's what you need to survive in the Dark Continent. Even Netero didn't like the Dark Continent because it was a battle against nature just to survive instead of all-out 1v1s. Ging is only said to be the top 5 best Nen Users, and Nen isn't limited to combat.
obv you have nothing to say
you have nothing to prove for such poor argument as the series has still a lot to show
Bro you’re not even trying to discuss the subject you just think you’re right and don’t care what anyone has to say. Obviously they will take the contract for enough money. Zeno even went to separate the king, that could’ve been a way more dangerous situation. They don’t know gings power, as noone of us does as well. 100% they would accept
Ging foresaw every decision gon would make on his journey. Chrollo couldn’t even tell hisoka was trying to keep him in York new. Ging is considered one of the top 5 nene users in the world chrollo was never mentioned for that I don’t know what makes you think at all chrollo is near gongs level. You are so oblivious to the way the story is set up
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I mean, they don't exactly have to fight him. Just poisoning his food or something like that will do. Although even that would be pretty hard to accomplish against someone who can just copy abilities with his raw talent alone
They don't have to fight him fair and square. They're assassins. Besides, we don't know exactly how strong ging is, zeno+silva could be enough already to secure the win.
And it was said or showed where exactly... Ging doesn't have any actual feats for that type of statement. Only Meruem, RGs and Netero qualify for saying that other characters wouldn't stand a chance against them.
Netero ranked him top 5 nen users in HxH world idk what you into
Yeah top 5 nen users, not top 5 the strongest nen users.
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And Silva, Zeno, Hisoka, and Chrollo could also beat Ging. This is not Dragon Ball; there's no such thing as a ''rank''. The statement of ''Top 5 nen user'' is already vague as it is. Netero also said that Morel and Knov are better nen users than him.
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The star don't say anything about combat ability though, they are more like doctorates
We know he created Greed Island which definitely demonstrates a mastery of nen, but that doesn't necessarily indicate combat ability
Lore wise there's nothing to prove he's above someone like Bisky, for example, although narratively it's pretty safe to assume
Not neccesary, look at Cheadle she's one of the Zodiacs who were personally chosen by Netero and Pariston said that she's weak fighter. Obviously Pariston could lie but seeing that Cheadle didn't even object it, I doubt it.
Yes but Ging is very hard to find plus, if someone killed the one who hired the Zoldycks, the contract will be absolved so I don't think they will accept any offer at all when it comes to assasinating very strong nen users who provides real value in the society.
I don't think they will accept any offer at all when it comes to assasinating very strong nen users who provides real value in the society.
The zoldycks are paid assassins. As long as you pay them, they'll go after everyone, even the most virtuous man in the world.
yeah again it wouldn't make sense because the "boss" can be killed, making the assassination null and void. Also, you're not the first one who wants to assassinate Ging using the zoldycks. I'm sure most hunter's in that election might've have resorted to that but didn't.
I reckon if Ging knew a contract was up for him he'd simply go after the client to make the contract void or go to the Zoldyck mansion to pay off/outbid the contract to make the Zoldycks turn on the client.
And as other posters already pointed out, if Ging doesn't want to be found then it's next to impossible to find him. He's basically a reluctant 3 star hunter but doesn't bother with it and one of the top 5 nen users.
Hahaha this is so fitting, Ging just walking up to the Zoldycks mansion and dropping off a ton of cash like "aight we good now right? :)"
Exactly! Classic Ging lol
Or he could do it with a sense of humor "Here's the payout, take whoever hired you to kill me and leave him on top of the World Tree"
Another post to Circlejerk Ging. A dude that we don't even know his nen category or his ability, yet people seem so sure he would destroy everybody but Meruem and Netero.
There are even some people who think Ging can even beat Netero or pre-rose Mereum. I know cause I'm one of them. I think Ging beats everyone shown so far and ties with Beyond Netero.
We know his ability, at least one of the main ones.
If you're referring to his copying ability that's more just a skill, a testament to how talented a nen user he is. We still know absolutely nothing about his nen type or hatsu. It might not even be at all fighting related
We do know part of his nen history though through the objects he left to Gon and the build of Greed Island. The abilities he showed in imbuing objects with Nen, such as the tape and the box, appear to have similarities in how Greed Island works: cards that are essentially imbued with Nen that each serve a stored function. We also know that it is possible to take three of those cards into the real world and use them. That means that Ging (or at the very least his Greed Island team with his help) could theoretically create Greed Island (or some other kind of Nen cards that are similar or serve the same or similar purpose) cards that record and store a one time use of whatever Nen ability and action that is recorded to the card.
We know that he used that ability with a cassette tape. That’s a magnetic memory object that is locked by a Nen ability to do exactly one thing only, like a program executing, before the object loses its Nen and returns to normal.
It appears that Ging can record potentially anything onto normal physical mediums that are built to retain information: a cassette tape, a Nen lock box for safely containing and storing something and that only unlocks under a certain condition, and the oodles of Greed Island cards that record literal objects into a Nen-infused card and extremely complex autopilot Nen skills with cards like “follow” and “return.”
Combine that with what has already been mentioned about his ability to copy Nen users’ hatsus, and it would appear that Ging is capable of storing essentially anything he wants, like Nen skills, by imbuing it into objects. If you look at the rest of the team that made Greed Island, they all had certain roles. Then you have to imagine Ging’s role. His power probably has something to do with the creation of the cards so that they are actually functional. They would have a Nen requirement to only work on Greed Island as a rule. That makes it easier to keep that system closed, and the rest of the team can then run it without him. Somebody had to use Nen to record Nen-based actions in the form of information, requiring objects like tapes, CD’s, books, and cards.
I‘m just trying to put together what is possible given what we know and what we know that we don’t know. By examining the shape of the hole, what’s missing, deduction of the size and shape of the object that made that hole is possible. By knowing what we know about everyone around Ging and all of Ging’s known accomplishments, I would hazard optimistically that his Nen technique would be all about recording essentially anything, including Nen abilities and techniques onto any sort of information storage device, like the cards from Greed Island and the tape he left for Gon.
I think that is the general area of it, the overall shape of the possibility of the thing. It would be too simplistic to say that he just makes cards like Greed Island cards and stores decks of them on his person. Is it possible? Sure. We have seen proof that it is not just possible but the cards do work in the real world. Is that explanation a bit too simple and reductive? Yes. I don’t think the only thing Ging has going for him is just a deck of cards, although that would be pretty cool idea for the HxH world. We will see with time, hopefully. Maybe within the next decade.
That's a great theory. Tbh I assumed that Ging imbuing objects with Nen, and the whole 'Nen code' that forms the basis of Greed Island is part of a whole other aspect of Nen that Togashi hasn't really to us yet but one that anyone can utilise, like how Wing imbued that tape with that Nen code to be able to detect if Gon used Nen while he was injured when he wasn't supposed to. So again I assumed what we've seen isn't related to his Hatsu or nen affinity, but I don't know.
No one knows where he is if he chooses to be out of sight. Zoldycks would demand a lot more than big fat payout, they would require Ging's current whereabout.
Netero, at one time considered to be the strongest among nen users, said Ging was one of the top 5 nen users in the world. We can't say specifics because we don't know. Though, Netero is a prime authority in the nen user world so we can trust his assessment.
They Zoldycks don’t really give me the vibe of outright declining to kill someone, at least not for the right price. When they killed the phantom troupe member they said that it wasn’t worth the money, not that the member was too strong to kill. This leads me to believe that they would kill anyone for the right price. Though they might view Ging as an impossible target, so I’d bet that if anyone came in requesting an assassination on Ging, the Zoldycks wouldn’t technically decline but instead they’d just give Ging a price tag that is unrealistically high.
They probably would accept if the price was high enough The only real answer as to if they would succeed us we have no way of knowing We dont even know Ging's abilities
If the sum is huge, yes. Hunter x Hunter is a story about Hunters with or without a license. A story about characters with incredible will among the lot. Even though the path of an assassin strays away from the path of a Hunter, if given enough reward (sum of money), an assassin is pretty much a hunter.
They won't succeed, since Ging will probably know about the contract from his sources, and he will pull a Chrollo. That too depends on the Zoldycks finding him which would take a whole another series of their own.
They went for chrollo. Ging is also plausible
bro chrollo isnt unfindable ging no one person knows his whereabouts
Right, the Chrollo contact was basically a protection contract. They only knew where he'd be cause he was coming after the mob, if it weren't for that they'd have had no idea where he is and it would be hard to even start looking for him. Ging is even less findable.
Chrollo is also "unfindable"; in fact, he's the only one besides Ging who is like that in the series. They found him because they already knew where he was, and Chrollo himself didn't mind to be found.
buh u see how they knew where chrollo whereabouts were?nb has yet to ever find ging unless u jus stumble across the mf
Like he said, they already new where corolla was. It was pretty clear by the time the Zoldyk's were called in that the entire Phantom Troupe was in York New
Ging outscales Chrollo though
We don’t know this and powerscaling in HxH is stupid anyways.
People really are downvoting me when its pretty much a fact Ging scales higher than Chrollo 💀
Chrollo stans are wicked
Somehow you have the same energy as people who say Venus > Akainu and as people who say Royal Guard individually beat everyone in 1v5s no exception
Not when it something so obvious as to Ging and Chrollo.
I guess Zushi vs Netero could also go either way because its HXH.
How is “Ging and Chrollo” obvious? Please tell me how Ging wins.
I'm going to assume you're a Chrollo stan, so arguing with common logic won't even change your mind.
If Netero the strongest human nen user we have seen called Ging one of the top 5 nen users, there is absolutely no way you seriously think Chrollo comes out victorious.
Ging's understanding and usage of Nen surpasses that of Chrollo.
Zeno was able to read Chrollo like a book, which was shown to throw Chrollo off his game a bit. Ging is literally a Nen genius. Why don't you do the math.
…called Ging one of the top 5 nen users…
…understanding and usage of Nen surpasses that of Chrollo
Zeno was able to read Chrollo like a book…
Okay, how does Ging counter all of Chrollo’s abilities? I haven’t seen anything about that yet, just conjecture based on what has been said about Ging (and what you’ve personally inferred from Ging) while ignoring everything that’s been said about Chrollo.
I love every major character except Leorio. HxH is my favorite series. I hope someday you can read it and actually understand that it’s not Dragon Ball. It’s not even One Piece.
Okay, how does Ging counter all of Chrollo’s abilities?
Like I said before, Ging's understanding of Nen far surpasses Chrollo's, so Ging would definitely be able to not only counter, but fully understand Chrollo's abilities.
just conjecture based on what has been said about Ging (and what you’ve personally inferred from Ging)
I literally quoted Isaac Netero, the Chairman, who was the strongest HUMAN Nen user alive. If you are telling me that the Chairman's words are just words, or that they are invalid, go argue with Togashi, not me.
while ignoring everything that’s been said about Chrollo.
Chrollo is a intellectual genius, leader of one of the most powerful criminal groups in the entire world, and is very talented in Nen. Did I miss something?
Based of what the Chairman and other MASTER Nen users said, and what has been included about Ging that he can COPY other people's abilities based off understanding their attacks alone, Ging is quite literally all of those but better, minus the criminal group point.
His Nen talent compared to Chrollo is unmatched. He can pretty much do a better job than Chrollo, except he doesn't need to steal the ability.
No. Please, how does Ging counter Chrollo’s abilities? Elaborate in detail, you know so much about Ging and his abilities.
What ability does Ging have that counters Indoor Fish?
Does Ging dodge Chrollo’s teleportation with his Haki, like Big Mom dodges Shambles?
If Chrollo has another Manipulation ability please explain in detail which ability Ging has to make sure he isn’t taken under control. As a bonus how does he counter being teleported into some manipulation instrument?
Please tell me how Ging counters Sun and Moon.
You’re only saying “Ging is a genius.” Yeah, he is. Being able to work out an ability doesn’t mean you can fucking counter it, though, you can’t just go “aha I’ve figured out how Godspeed works” and Killua won’t respond “oh no now I can’t use Godspeed.”
You have no argument as to why or how Ging can deal with any of this stuff. Maybe he can, but we do not fucking know. You can’t comprehend that so you’re avoiding actually discussing anything and instead saying people are Chrollo fans.
No, we just have a more critical mind than you.
If this is the case, then Killua quite literally beats any human character with Godspeed. He quite literally cannot he beaten.
By your logic, Killua beats Chrollo in a fight because of Godspeed. Right
Chrollo does not have the durability or Hax of a Royal Guard, so he loses to Killua.
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from people weaker than Corolla
Please explain to me why it matters if someone’s weaker than Chrollo if their ability is “kill Ging”. You can’t. It’s not Dragon Ball where Yamcha has a weaker Kamehameha than Goku because he’s overall weaker. Watch the damn show.
If Chrollo could pull a chance at victory against Ging, he would need an incredible amount of Prep time and planning, because Ging is just as much of a genius as he is.
Clearly your mind cant be changed, so there's no point arguing with you because apparently, you can't be wrong.
You don’t even have an argument, you’re just saying “lol Ging wins.” We don’t know what his abilities are. How does Ging dodge teleportation into a manipulation ability? We don’t know.
Please stick to Dragon Ball. Please.
Ging and Chrollo obvious? Can you please elaborate how it is obvious? How Ging would beat Chrollo, how would he counter him? what could he do depending on enviroment? It should be easy since is so obvious like Zushi vs Netero right?
Arguing with Chrollo fankittens gets you nowhere 🤦♂️
I guess if you truly believe Chrollo has a high chance of beating Ging, then obviously changing your mind is impossible
Check my other reply to the other fankitten
The fact that you can’t actually respond means you’re just talking out of your ass, and probably just trolling.
Scaling in HxH being stupid is the most stupid thing I heard this week.
Please powerscale the character with infinite abilities, the character with hax against a very specific group, the character that can literally bend reality but does not fight, the characters who we’ve seen nothing from, the characters who were supposed to be unbeatable but died to nuclear-induced cancer, the plethora of characters who can actually one-shot any character if relatively simply conditions are met but they still get called weak by the fans…
Now scale them all against each other. HxH isn’t Dragon Ball where “I punch harder” wins. Every fight is based on the interaction of abilities, which means you can’t actually scale shit beyond “Netero has more aura than Shalnark” or something that is totally irrelevant. The people who insist on powerscaling in HxH don’t understand that somehow.
Wow your comment being upvoted made me lose faith in this sub.
I mean, if there's no counterargument of course its going to make more sense if no one bothers to question it
They’re not interested in actually providing any counter argument, this entire thread they’ve just been going “Ging stronger lol”.
You’re trying to look at it through a linear lens. Like, why? You realize that if Shalnark can manage to stab Ging, Ging loses. Right? Do you believe Shalnark is stronger than Ging because he can one shot him? But it’s indisputable that he can.
Now imagine that Chrollo has an ability that lets him absorb Emission abilities. And let’s say Ging is an Emitter. Do you believe that Ging would not be at a disadvantage? Do you think he’s going to simply brute force his way through Chrollo?
This is a hypothetical but it demonstrates the point that you can’t powerscale anything when fights are based on how abilities interact. You can’t just claim without evidence that one character beats another if you don’t even know 10% of their abilities combined. That’s stupid.
I'm curious why you say the power scaling in HxH is stupid? It always seemed rather tame to be compared to plenty other shonen.
I could’ve worded it better. I don’t think the internal system is bad—it’s amazing. But I think that’s why the act of powerscaling, as in the fan base doing so, is stupid.
Take genius OP for instance. They’re claiming Ging > Chrollo. We don’t know anything about Ging. Their logic uses all the (imo stupid anyways, but) logic that is consistent with other Shonen. Ging was introduced later and hyped from episode one with a closer proximity to the main character. To our foolhardy powerscaling protagonist, this means Ging > > > Chrollo, “objectively”.
Nothing they said was ever actually logical, though. Because HxH is such a complex series, it’s not enough to be a Nen genius, or to be hyped by the narrative, or to be called strong by other people, to say you’re going to beat someone else. Because strength is not linear, as much as powerscaling protagonist wants it to be, and we see so many examples of characters who are traditionally weaker beating characters who are traditionally stronger.
Uvo is a master Enhancer and he loses to a newbie Kurapika. Is Kurapika stronger than Uvogin? No. But he still won.
Let’s use Powerscaling Protagonist logic and say knowledge of Nen means Ging > > > Chrollo. Netero’s Nen mastery far outstrips Meruem. He actively uses Hatsu and simply knows more. Yet he loses in a straight confrontation, because Meruem is that much more durable and the 100 Guanyin Boddhitsava is not a good ability to fight Meruem with.
And yet Meruem loses anyways. Not because of Netero’s Nen, but just because he outplanned Meruem and had a bomb.
Gon? Not stronger than Pitou, gets stomped without his specific contract.
Gon again? Probably not stronger than the Bomber during their fight.
Powerscaling Protagonist said Ging > Chrollo is as obvious as Netero > Zushi. But Zushi is a manipulator. If there is a scenario where Zushi can control Netero, which depending on his Hatsu can be as simple as pricking him, Zushi beats Netero.
Attempting to powerscale in HxH is stupid because raw strength—aura usage and capacity—does not win fights. It’s not even just strategy that wins fights. How abilities interact is so important that you literally cannot meaningfully discuss any potential Ging, Beyond, etc fight while actually being objective. Which is why we see Powerscaling Protag, constantly in this thread, dodge what Ging does to actually counter Chrollo’s abilities in a fight. Because they don’t know, and since they don’t know, they can’t contribute logically to a discussion on whether or not Ging is actually beating Chrollo.
And from characters we do see things from, that’s also silly, because again strength does not mean victory. Shalnark has the capacity to beat Meruem under some specific circumstances. That doesn’t make Shalnark stronger.
Well, I completely agree. Morel puts it succinctly when he's talking down to Killua. In a world where you aren't just throwing the biggest energy beam and powers are more diverse, you hit the nail on the head. Meleoron could probably take out most people himself. Nen punch when they don't have Ren up and they're doomed.
What I meant was in the yorknew arc. The mafia heads hired them to fight the troupe/chrollo. If they are willing to fight the troupe then ging 1 person is not out of range
Sorry but Chrollo is on the level of Kite so no comparison here.
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How can you infere that from what I've said? Are you dumb? I was clearly pointing out that Ging is way stronger than Chrollo, who is on the same level of Kite, Ging's pupil.
They would have to pay top dollar but its questionable if they would even succeed
Would it be all of them or just one? Or a tag team like they did in yorknew?
Most likely yes :3
Hypothetically, I would say yes. It would require a very large sum because this would be seen as a high risk mission.
Would they succeed? Maybe. If they resorted to pure nen and martial ability I don’t think they could, but part of being an assassin is figuring out the best way to kill the target. And if they were told collateral damage wasn’t an issue they would probably pull out everything to get it done.
But I don’t think we know enough of Ging’s abilities to say with 100% certainty. So far we have seen that he is a Nen Genius and always seems to be about 3 steps ahead of everyone else.
They attempted to kill Netero at one point ( afaik one of the only failed contracts for the zoldycks) so it’s safe to assume they would take a contract on ging
Cough cough pariston cough cough
“don’t take a fight you aren’t sure you can win.” no they wouldn’t
How do you reconcile this with Zeno willing to sacrifice himself to kill Chrollo?
if they take a job they finish it, at that point they do what it takes to preserve their reputation. But if they know before hand an opponent is too tough or not worth the price they don’t
Makes sense.
Why does people think assassination skill equals combat skill?
Why does this post have 150 comments, especially for a question about Killua's dad being hired to kill Gon's dad
Killua will tell her family that if they kill Ging, the adult Gon will come for them and they will surely die.
Gon would not care if Ging dies
He has been searching for his father since the beginning of the series... Didn't you see the tears of happiness after finding his father?
He was not searching out of love. He was looking for his father out of curiosity. It was a goal, and his main goal, but not at all because of any sort of love. If you think the Ging-Gon relationship is based on some fatherly love from Ging’s side, or some sort of deep yearning for Ging’s affection from Gon’s, you didn’t really read correctly. There’s a reason he dismisses anyone besides Mito as his parent.
besides he wanted ONLY to find him as he said in the manga talking to mito
and he never saw him as a father
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The difference is he knew Kite, and Kite brought him to closer proximity to his goal. He saw Kite as more of a father figure than Ging—he even looked up to Kite more as a Hunter, I’m sure. If Ging dies before Gon meets him I think Gon would be pretty torn up. But after the world tree, I don’t think Gon would be any more upset if Ging dies than he is when some other acquaintance dies. And Kite is the the exception to Gon expressing his rage, not the norm, since he also blamed himself directly.
evet, dizinin başında Ging'i merak ediyordu.. Daha sonra Ging ile tanıştı ve mutluydu, bu yüzden kesinlikle babasını önemsiyor..
They would be digging their own graves. I doubt they'd go after ging because he's not worth it to them.
No one in earth has the money for that contract and even beyond that I don’t think the zoldyicks could do it ging is probably way to powerful for any of them besides maybe zeno and Silva but zeno is old already only real chance they have is if they use alluka to just delete him
I'm sure they have denied many contracts in the past considering they are all still alive.
Only way to kill him it would be to bring Aluka in the equation tho that they don't want to do so they wont do it anyway so they will decline.
If Ging knew that Gon will clear the game 12 yrs after he created the game and knew Gon will live after his sacrifice when fighting Pitou... I think he already knew about Alluka's existence. Don't see any chance of anyone planning to kill Ging.
They already have been engaged to kill him but he is impossible to find. Kikyo did run into him once and tried to alert the others, but Ging made her to his onahole in an instant. She would never betray him.
Edit: Everyone downvoting me is just butthurt because of NTR.
Are you okay in the head?
I think kid gon yes, but it would be extremely costly and probably not given the best attention until all of the sudden half of the family is involved. Post kid gon i think that Kil holds enough cards to make a very real deterrent and it would probably be enough for the contract to be denied outright. I feel like kil would see the contract as a soft threat and that the family would at the very least be worried of such a situation even though kil would probably expect as much despite not probably wanting to get involved himself and taking advantage of the assumption....We can go down the assumption mind game of chess but in the end kil would think it's gon's choice and I feel like gon would either see it as a fun challenge to go against or leave his dad to defend himself (probably with a pose and quote of believing in his dad in classic gon style) bc that's what a hunter would do after all.
I doubt even a certain rat can't pay enough to put a hit on Ging. I don't have to reiterate too much of the higher comments about the difficulty of even finding him, let alone fighting.
I love how the people answers here are serious for something obvious.
Ging will likely know someone would try to contract the Zoldycks to kill him before the Zoldycks even receive the contract, and the Zoldycks, if they accept, will fail for a number of reasons like not being able to find him, not being able to catch him, not being able to overpower him, and it's likely Ging can cancel the contract himself by simply talking.
Hell, Ging is able to appear in front of their door the moment they receive the contract, and with a few words the contract will be cancelled; that's just how Ging is, most of his conflicts are solved with words; he very rarely uses his own power, and instead thinks where to be, when, what to do, what to say, etc.
Yes, and Probably Not just because Ging is insanely clever but i think in the right situation Zeno and Silva run his fade
Depends on the price and how strong they perceive Ging to be. Like if someone asked them to assassinate Meruem they'd probably go "f*** off" knowing they have no chance. Illumi hammered into Killua how he should not be getting into fights where the other person is clearly stronger (only more warped in Killua's case) and it's probably a general principle he learned from his family.
We do know that they're fine working together however. So if the bounty was high enough to make it worth Zeno, Silva, and at least Illumi's time together (along with an added premium of Ging being such a high level target) then they might. I can see the three of them working together pulling off a win against Ging. They might even send more guys if needed.
I think theyd get stomped
I think they’d get stomped
Its part of the Hunter code not to kill other hunters, so illumi and killua couldn't kill Ging, it would have to be one of the other Zoldycks right?
Yeah but that logic is flawed since illumi has already killed many hunters in the election arc, illumi doesn’t give a damn about hunter code.
Yeah i totally forgot about that haha, Illumi would probably take that contract. So everyone except Killua.
If they get paid what they see fit, sure.
Probably not if they knew Ging was Gon's dad. Gon is Killua's closest friend after all.
If they don't, it means nothing. They have the right to decline any offer they like.... unless Silva says stay away and even if he did, illum is already i shown defiant joining the Troupe. So I could see illumi taking a shot. Zeno and Silva if money right.
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They may decline and choose who they want to kill. Remember silva said one of the spiders wasnt even worth the pay of if they know someone is a tough SOB they would decline.