So tired of getting in close combat and just spear how every single fight I am only level 70 so maybe I'm just a noob. I use it and I win, I don't use it and fight it and lose. So I'm forced playing bow and spear EVERY game because if I don't the person I fight will use it and kill me insta
Nerf this shit please
I agree with your take, just confirming/pointing out a couple things:
-Spear can indeed ohk to the leg as you guessed.
-Bow can actually ohk to the arm with hundred hands under like 5-6m.
The bow is dogshit out of melee range and this game has always been 1 - 2 shot kills
This is being blown out of proportion, I have not been killed by a spear a single time (I haven't played since before the spear got added)
The spear is actually a good idea to combat shotgun campers, but it’s pretty fucking broken right now.
There is absolutely no reason to not run a spear and dusters over any other tool. It shouldn’t one shot to the leg or arms.
Yeah I've been following what's going on and it's actually crazy how busted it is. First time I saw gameplay of it, they killed someone by hitting a hunter's leg and I was like "Damn, he must've been on 1 hp!" And my jaw dropped when I found out it one shots anywhere.
It's powerful but not like as if there weren't any counters. You including the bow clearly shows you currently lack the ability to adapt as a newer player, bow users are quite restricted in their playstyle and movement, internalize this and build on it. Spear is not that much different and adjustments to it are very much expected.
I agree on the spear, it's stupidly powerful for a tool. But the bow, nah.
Im 4 star and have yet to be killed by a spear
Bow certainly does not need a nerf, in medium to long range it becomes very difficult to consistently land shots when compared to literally any gun that doesn’t have drop added to it (crossbow, bomblance, etc.). If you’re constantly dying to bows, perhaps you should back off a bit once you’ve identified a bow user and increase your odds of winning that way. Considering you’re only level 70, you’re still pretty new to the game and there is a lot to learn - instead of getting worked up about bows, learn to adapt to them and take the bow user out of their element by creating some distance.
Spear is absolutely busted in its current state, and I think it certainly needs to be toned down. I don’t have an issue with it being a very strong melee tool option, but it single-handedly makes any other melee tool nigh obsolete with how efficient it is at everything it does. Fast throw speed, one hit kills to any part of the body, can be thrown whilst running, has quite a bit of drop to it but is pretty easy to accommodate for considering it will oneshot anywhere on the body, and it shreds PvE and bosses alike.
Wait until you get to shotgun campers.
But really it sounds like a playstyle thing. Bow and spear are good anti push weapons. How you can hold a corner and wait for them to come around and if you have good timing you just one tap them and hope they don't one tap you back. In that aspect they are very good. But at range both those weapons start to suck tbh. It becomes hard to get good hits and they don't one tap, besides spear, and leave you weaks on follow ups either from no longer having a spear or having to redraw the bow. In both cases they are powerful close range weapons due to their one tap potential. So switching to a gun that can't one tap is going to be a shock. Because now you need to land 2 solid hit to kill, and these guns will generally lose to shotguns and bows at close range because those weapons can one tap you and you can't one tap back without a headshot.
So it's a learning curve, try using the marathon. It's got lots of bullets and is very good at hip fire. Once you get fmj, which is pretty fast unlock it's quite the beast. And all it needs is iron eye as a perk. It's a very nice handling gun for you to get use to gun fighting as it's also a 400ms velocity gun which helps you learn the bullet travel time of a 3rd of the guns in the game. Just try and stay at 15 to 30 meters in fights. Cause as said most rifles will lose to a shotgun in their kill range which is between 7 to 14 meters depending on which shotgun you are using.
TL:DR:
Spear - yes.
Bow - no.
Why?
Spear... has too much damage, can hit any body part for OHK, not really reliant on Stamina, can even hit super fast+strong in meele mode - most importantly all that as a TOOL.
Bow...needs full center upper body to OHK, has drop, needs drawtime to shoot, cant run while drawing, slower cycle+draw than duals, fanning or most shotguns so if you miss your one single shot you're cooked when players push you. Bow needs experience to successfully pull off.
Don't ya think that you can't really speak to balance if you haven't even reached bloodline rank 100? Try a few hundred hours then you can spew bullshit on Reddit
The bow was always FINE, wasn’t OP like people claimed it was when it came out. But enough people cried about it because they got killed one too many times by it (duh it was new so everybody played it every match) and it got nerfed, now it’s a bit underwhelming. Still a great PvE tool, but in PvP it’s just alright you get so many arm shots which don’t kill and not even heavy bleed
Bow is fine, spear needs to arc more instead of being damn near hitscan
Yeah, the 1 shots are annoying as hell… I’m okay with the spear being strong. This current iteration is too strong. It needs nerfs for sure.
The bow? What in the world. 😆
I understand spear since it's a 1 hit body kill and also nearly the best melee weapon in the game as a tool, but why bow?
BOW?
Sprear need nerf, but bow is not that bad.
-Bow has more bullet drop than spear btw.
-bow can not ohk to arm.
-With bow you can not run when you draw bow,
-with spear you can run when you ready throw.