How should Valentino be defeated?

One part of me wants Husk to challenge him to an all or nothing poker game for Angel’s soul and the other wants Angel to find some loophole out of his contract. 

He deserves to lose everything and be at the bottom of the barrel. Double death seems too good for him

I don’t want poetry.

I don’t want this big “yeah good job angel you tell em!”

I want it messy, disturbing, and all sorts of emotions. Yes, even regret. It happens.

If anything, I want a 2 on 1 with both Husk and Angel finally settling the score, but Angel freezes. Husk doesn’t. Angel is beside himself after everything, Husk tries to comfort him.

Because that shit is a lot. If you haven’t been the Angel in a relationship like this, it’s very easy to go “mothman bad why doesn’t he just shoot him (all mechanics aside, I’m not here to play power scaling)” because while we don’t know his full story, it’s easy to see Angel look at Val as the chance to live his authentic self, especially if he came to him with a outstretched hand.

“Oh mi amor, hell is forever, but with a body like yours - you could be the best! They shunned you? Pffft. I can MAKE you better.”

When your toxic pseudo-boyfriend rapist gets their just desserts, you get a lot of emotions - and I trust the show reflects that.

Alternatively, Husk gets captured as a way to force Angel in line - and We get to see that Mafia experience come in SWINGING. The final shot after an absolutely brutal fight scene, Angel’s got one of Val’s pistols to his head and says something pithy, in the Anthony voice like “Mine was always bigger. BA-BANG HUSK?! TALK TO ME KITTY WHERE ARE YOU”. I also like this because it gives Angel more agency, versus the constant seeing him as being this scared little baby you see in fan art because I mean - he CAN take care of himself.

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Lucifer finding out he licked Charlie

I just wanna sic Niffty on him with bug spray

Flying into the light like King Candy from Wreck-It-Ralph

Angel finds a loophole in his contract and tricks Val into breaking it. Freeing him. Then beating the shit out of that insect and rip out his gold tooth. The question is what would Val do afterwards? If he goes to the Hotel he'll be facing people who hate his guts with angelic weapons along with the Devil himself and his daughter who also hate him and the radio demon.

Angel finds a way to permanently break things off from Val. Husk steps in as backup when things begin to get unpleasant. Val get crit. injured and flees in defeat, then is killed by the greater-scope big bad (who frames team-Hazbin, so Vox would focus his rage on them, leading to his own downfall [though not necessarily death])

This is gonna sound stupid, but if he can be made to ACTUALLY face what he's done and feel it... that's the ultimate punishment, believe it or not. Feeling the actual weight of his cruelty. Being forced to live with it. It's what horrible people like him are constantly running from or defending against. It's why narcissists are like that. It's all self protective.

Death is too easy, and it's just another kind of running.

So that, I guess.

I want Ozzie to find out what Val did and rip his head off.

3 Scenarios

1: Husk challenge him to an poker game and wins Angel + Val soul, Val then loses relevance in the porn industry, loses his overlord status and Husk makes an agreement with Alastor to have his soul back in exchange for Val.

2: Niffty

3: Val becomes a loose cannon (more than he already is), somehow he makes a super mastermind plan that threatens everyone in the hotel, Angel becomes Sir Pentious 2.0 and sacrifices himself but takes Val with him, basically guaranteed his place in Heaven or this could be a "hook" for explaining what happens to people in hell after "double death".

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User generated pr0n becomes more viable, destroying his financial capabilities leaving him the wagon seller in the age of trucks.

If we have redeemed Adam, have him take out Val cause it could be the perfect subversion of everything Adam use to be, from him being a lazy sex loving sexist who loved to kill, to an actual man defending his children and killing to truly defend this time

OFF WITH HIS HEAD‼️‼️‼️

Royal Flush, bitch.

Death by Raid

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Losing the Overlord status and power would work I believe. Just imagine what ensues.

I wish from the bottom of my heart, for Angel to find closure. Having been in his shoes, if only emotionally, I know he can't go it alone. 🩷 Thankfully he's got Husk, Cherri, and Charlie — and obviously Alistor, who no doubt would have his own plans for each of the Vees. All I need is for everyone to rally around Anthony, and let him have closure, much like Vaggie did with Lute.

One word: Niffty

Yes he should be

The longer he resists releasing Angel from his contract, the more turns on the angelic steel sausage maker we crank.

I want every hole in his body filled with cement

Niffty

give him the same treatment as adam and pentious
one off gag where its played for comedic effect and then they take it seriously

He doesn’t. Keep him alive. He’s one of the only truly compelling villains in a series filled with fluff.

Left as a soulless shell after being beaten half to death by Vaggie and Lucifer.

His bitches gather round and put something in him.

Nifty stab

Comically large spoon

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Me and the boys (and Niffty) beat him to death with hammers.

Nuke Clear Bo MB

Poker with Husk.

Lucifer should kill him for asking Charlie to act in a porn video and for LIKING her arm

Husk gets Angel's soul through gambling. Val gets mad and tries to kill them. Then Alastor appears from behind him and proceeds to beat the shit out of him, leaving him with insane trauma for the rest of his afterlife.

feed him dick first into a wood chipper

Huge dildo through the heart 🤣

anally

Let Nifty have a go at him

Death by nifty or angel dust owning his soul

I'm not sure how but I think it would be really cool if, by the end of the series, Angel has his job as head of the porn industry or whatever it is.

Charlie destroying Angel's Contract in front of him.

Yu-Gi-Oh mind crash

I want to see all his contracted souls being ripped away from him all at once and the sudden loss of them cause a whiplash of power drainage which leaves him super weak. Then left to wallow in the dirt like the pathetic wretch he is. Bonus if Angel dust gets a hold of Val's soul

He loses a bet to Alastor and uses Valentino’s ego is against him and destroys him and broadcast his scream for hell to hear while keeping his wings as a trophy.

Make his weewee explode

hey lucifer, valentino has…

They blow off his nuts with a angelic 12 gauge shotgun

I want him to develop and become good

I meant to say fate. Not date.

I want to see his wings get chopped off

By flying into a fire because it is light and he is a moth similar to how the villain from wreck it Ralph was defeated

Husk and Valentino would gamble and Husk wins, freeing Angel from his contract and teams up with Charlie to kill Valentino without the Vees knowing.

Should he even be defeated?

The single most brutal and gory death in the show, I would actually prefer if Alastor tortured him to death or something off screen while a few characters have a conversation about how much of a dick Val while also sprinkling in the fact of how insane Al is lol

Him being burnt alive with a huge magnifying glass.

Idk why but I want him to just explode. No context, he just explodes.

By Angel Dust

Slow and painful death

I want Angel dust to cut off his dick.

Does that need an explanation?

Controversial opinion: I think it would be cool (and nearly impossible) for Val to get redeemed. Put “Any soul can change” to the test.

I'd like angle to absolutely beat the dog shit out of him in a brutal release of all the pent up anger and sadness caused by the abuse he received from Valentino

Charlie removes ADs soul from Val and tears up the contract

I personally want him to get the chainsawman treatment.

And by that I mean repeated kicking to his balls. By mostly Angel.

Alastor finds a loophole in the contract Angel signed and…

Niffty stabs Val just like she did to Adam

I personally wish he got his ass whooped by both Angel and Charlie, with the latter even using her authority as the princess of hell to nullify the contract.

He needs to have all his stuff dragged outside and lit on fire. And while he's crying over it, probably kicked in the face by Angel.

One Word: niffty.

…bug spray and a lighter…..FUCKING FLAMETHROWER BAYBEEE

I know this won't happen but I want hotel stuff to beat the living crap out of him when he pushes boundaries and gets to hotel to do something to angel . That would be perfect

I want him redeemed

I want there to be a running gag of every major villain just getting killed by Niffty out of nowhere.

I kind of think Alastor could. Not saying he should but considering Husker is one of Alastor's pawns and Alastor hasn't actually done anything yet other than intimidate and threaten Husker. I feel like because Husker is useful to Alastor he won't want something to happen to Husker so he's no longer useful, so if Husker tried to get Angel out of his contract and Val attempted to/actually attack Husker, Alastor might intervene in some way to 'protect' Husker; aka, making sure Husker is still useful afterwards.

I want him to go out in a blaze of glory. Maybe they have a gnarly fight, Val is finally beaten, Charlie offers him a chance at redemption but Val laughs in her face and presses the angelic self destruct button.

Mostly I don’t want him to be a pushover, I want to feel why he is an overlord in his own right, and why he is an actual threat.

I don’t know but all I can think of is King Candy’s death scene where he’s trying not to fly into the light beam of death before ultimately going.

Getting railed from behind by husk lmao

I know they most likely won't mix HB and HH but.... Fuck do I want Asmodeus to just go off on this bastard.

getting molten and morphed into Greylock's monster by Lucifer

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A big fire(he is a moth)

Reading these is so fun But yeah My top three are Husk and him in a game of poker Niffty [that would be good foreshadowing] And angel

Just make up the most humiliating way for an overlord to be beaten as. The more embarrassing, the better.

He should be torn to pieces and his organs laid in neat rows and columns.

i would give everything to watch valentino bite the curb

Pluck his shitty eyes out.

Gun probably

I hope he lives but Nifty cuts his dick off with one of those angel blade knives so it can't grow back, probably after Valentino makes a joke about how dirty he is down there.

Fed feet first into a slow wood chipper with angelic steel chipper drums?

Giant boot

Like this.

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Bitch slapped to death

Killed by husk

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I want Val to die and part of his undoing be because of his bad vision biting him in the ass.

Mm that’s the thing. In order to keep the show not some sort of child’s play, he shouldn’t be defeated like a big bad villain. Keeps the story interesting and shows that not everyone can be beat

Angel should use one of Val’s own guns against him and shoot him in the head and rip that other antenna out imo Or anyone really I just need that other antenna gone 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Herpagonasyphilis

How Nifty killed Adam

Via violent non-consensual castration.

He should be murdered in the most gruesome, painful and slow way possible.

Team effort. Angel and Husk together is ideal, maybe throw in an extra character (Cherri Bomb maybe?) for good measure if you REALLY want to make Valentino feel threatening.

I want Valentino's defeat to feel earned. Yes, it's gonna be amazingly cathartic when Valentino gets his shit kicked in, but I also want him to actually BE an intimidating villain, and not treated as a joke. Remind us why Valentino made Overlord when so many others like him have failed, and by extension, make it that much more satisfying and encouraging when Angel Dust and Husk (and maybe one other character) manage to overcome and defeat him despite that.

And then you can slap him with the humiliation conga he deserves as the door hits him on his way out.

I want to see Husk, Angel, and Cherry Bomb basically reenacting the scene from The Boys where Kimiko, Starlight, Maeve beat the absolute fuck out of Stormfront. Just a brutal fuckin' beatdown

Frozen with liquid nitrogen then zendatsu'd to pieces

oh wait, this is r/HazbinHotel?

Niffty.

Honestly it'd be cool if Angel somehow owned his soul and changed his appearance to look insane and mad power hungry and was going to toucher Val and put him what he put him through but Charlie convinces him not to cause he's not that kinda guy ultimately this is how Angel gets redeemed. Then Val cowers and idk Alastor just fucking eats him cause he actually does have a heart for Angel.

And I don't want Husk involved, he can be there but Husk has nothing to do with Val. Someone pointed out that Husk got reduced to Angels Boyfriend or his friend or guardian angel and although partners should support each other, Husk has his own life. I feel that it's more powerful if Angel does it mostly in his own. If Angel were a girl I'm sure people would hate the idea like "can she not protect herself? Is this saying that every girl needs a boyfriend to protect them?"

May sound weird, but I want him to go down in a blaze of Sexual Glory. A fate worthy of an awful villain like himself, his whole studio burning down in hellfire as he laughs maniacally, knowing he’ll go down in Hell’s history as the Number 1 Pimp. Pimpin’… not simping.

Poker with husk but Valentino loses and gets castrated

A giant big light and/or flame

Hot take but I don't think that Angel should escape Val until he gets into heaven. I think it's an interesting plot point and a great way to connect angel and husk together both in a similar situation that neither can escape from

i'm not entirely sure but i want angel to do it. he can rely on his friends, but ultimately, he should be the one who takes him down.

consider: angel defeats val and leaves him badly injured with absolutely nothing but doesn't kill him, cause, yknow, fucked up traumabond type situation. after he's left powerless in the dirt with everyone else gone, another major villain (i was thinking roo) shows up and either kills him or does some sorta eldritch fate-worse-than-death type thing.

Angelic .357 Magnum to the head

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Husk challenges both him and Alastor to a poker game. The wager is whoever wins gets Husks soul, but if Husk wins, he gets control of his own soul AND Anthony's freedom. Valentino seemingly wins. Alastor says that he releases Husks soul from his servitude and when Valentino tries to claim him nothing happens. Alastors smile gets a bit more smug as he reveals Valentino is a cheater. In that moment, the chain around Anthony's neck snaps away into pink smoke, and Husks, a puff of green smoke.

Valentino, realizing that he fucked up, offers a double or nothing. Husk angrily flips the table of to the side while Alastor laughs at the entertainment. Husk is now holding a set of angelic steel playing cards. As Valentino tries to escape, one flies into his hand, pinning it to the wall. He tries to unfurl his wings and they both get pinned to the wall by more angelic steel playing cards. Then all three of his other hands.

Husk slowly approaches him growling, and holds one of the razor sharp cards to Valentino's neck. He asks him if he has any last words. Valentino looks over to Anthony, pleading with him to not let Husk kill him. Anthony, after so many years of abuse, asks Valentino if he ever listened to HIS cries for mercy, so why should Angel listen to Valentino's pleas?

Valentino's eyes go wide as it sinks in. Husk slits his throat.

Something with angels arms I believe he has like six of them and he can like stretch them I think maybe have them choke out Val

Honestly. Stabbed by nifty but doesn't kill him, with Husk taking the same knife and stabbing him in the throat while saying something like "deep throat this, you sleazy bastard"

Valantino finally really hurts Angel.

"Hmm, let's make a deal. I'll help you take back Angel's soul, if you turn a blind eye to what I do next."

Charlie says yes, and Husk and Cherry join in. Vaggie does not want to be part of this as she knows what comes next. The very essence of what Charlie is trying to do for the people of hell is undermined in the river of blood that flows from V headquarters.

Charlie visits Angel and lets him know he is free from Val. She then goes to her room and cries. She has the radio on. She sings a reprise of "Whatever it Takes" over Val and Vox's screams. Alastor owns Velvette's soul.

Contest of making the best porn video.

Set on fire? He is a moth, after all.