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I don't think he'll win. If he somehow wins this time, i'm questioning the government because with all the crap he has done, he's losing votes
If he runs again in 2028, he'll be 81 and probably dead because of his diet and health
I'm of the mind that America is actually quite screwed and he will win. Of course as someone in the UK I won't be seeing the effects for a long while but it's probably gonna happen
America seems so divided these days and I say this a person from Northern Ireland lol
I never thought you could get more divided than this shambles of a kingdom
I don’t think America is on Northern Ireland levels of division yet, but it’s certainly not getting better it seems
Perhaps the Star Trek prophecy will come true after all, then, who knows
The Ireland would need to be compared to individual states or regions. The U.S. has so much diversity state to state and region due to topography, climate and resources.
But, as a whole we are being systematically divided by race, gender, income, political thoughts, education etc.
It seems every week, the media focuses on a particular division to stir the pot?
BTW- CNN is 100% propaganda
Most of the big media companies are purely entertainment, driven by profit. It's an odd choice to specifically point out CNN when a majority of the media space is so fucked, including its counterpart in Fox.
As a Derry man living in America for the last 12 years, it's not as divided as the media would make you think. Americans have the same goals usually, they just differ WIDELY on how to achieve them. Then the government itself has different goals separate from the people at this current point in time. With Ireland, a lot of people wanted vastly different things for the country and then on top of that they also disagree on how to get there.
I don't think it will. I knew that there is plenty of disagreement on policy, but at the end of the day I thought I could count on my fellow Americans to do the right thing when push came to shove. I was proven wrong by how many voted for Trump, and how many participated Jan 6th and lies about election fraud. A lot of people took off their masks to show some very ugly faces. How can you reconcile with people you can't trust?
That's an accurate assessment actually. I am a liberal American living in the conservative rural Midwest. The hate and tension are palpable here. Growing up in the 90s people were much more optimistic and open minded.
Perhaps I'm missing how I could have a skewed view of the situation, but I'm sort of an "empath" for a lack of a better word. I tend to feel the emotions of those around me and let me tell you these days it's very hostile around here. Very much divided and people have become more judgemental, nosey and just absolutely refuse to mind their own damn business.
From my angle it's crystal clear what the source of our division is. It's Fox News and the Right Wing media empire. It's worse than ever and people are more wound up than ever. Simple as that honestly.
No, actually, it's not that simple. To just shrug it off as "well, I can feel people's emotions, and I know that they're bad, and it's because of fox news."
I think you're making it worse than it really is. Your description of reality is more consistent within Reddit than real life.
Also, look up who owns Fox News, it's the same giant corporation that owns other liberal media.
If you really are an empath, than you realize that there's more to political identity, and judging people as whether or not they belong in your tribe is futile.
United we stand, divided we fall. They want you to have enemies in the other "team."
Also, look up who owns Fox News, it's the same giant corporation that owns other liberal media.
Regardless, Fox news spreads lies openly. Like the antivax bullshit. Most news stations don't do that!
This sect of the right wing media industry is a genuine contributor to the problem of division in this country. And Fox news isn't alone!
News Corp. doesn’t own liberal media, at least not by conventional standards.
What the it’s Rupert Murdoch, who has been banned from his home country for being a fascist twat. What are you taking about?
We liberal Midwesterners need to vote every single time! There are pockets of blue and we need to grow them. I am luckily in one of the pockets of blue in a red state, but voting is more important than ever, so I still keep hoping we will make a difference
Alright, let’s break down a section of this, that “optimism” you felt in the 90’s wasn’t a lack of political tension, that was most likely you being young.
For me that point was around 2016 when I actually started paying attention to politics, and suddenly felt like the world had gone to shit.
Secondly, it’s not just the “right wing media empire”, it’s media as a whole. Controversy and polarization are almost certain ways to gain publicity and loyalty, and major news outlets leverage this to the fullest.
A quick example of this is Fox News and CNN, I’ve been someone who’s watched both at different times in my life, and I can confidently they’re both the same scummy bullshit that’s meant to rile people up, but nobody cares. They rile you up, and then give you reasons to justify your anger.
Uhh it’s been an open secret in news media for the past couple years the ownership changes and falling rating have led CNN to court right wing aging viewers. NBC even tried it recently with Ronna Romney McDaniel but it blew up on them.
From what I’ve seen in my personal life, it’s moreso reflexive hatred. Almost none of the right wingers that i know watch (or trust) media outlets. Most of their viewpoints come from seeing left-wing news headlines and it riles them up against their every action. same applies the other way around.
Before I get downvoted, notice that I said it’s just what I’ve seen from people in my personal life.
As a Canadian it's been having a influence on people here and I for one am not happy about it.
I second this. Everything that happens in the US is always brought up again in Canada. I hate how weirdly close our politics are
Remember when those extremists came over with swastika on their trucks? That was a real trip.
Ever since 2018 he and his ideology have been consistently losing elections nationwide. Polls are not accurate barometers for how people vote. If you want to try and predict how people will vote, you have only one reliable source: voting data from past elections. And voting data since 2018 has him losing.
It's coming for y'all too it's already started I've chatted about this with friends or mine and it's going to get worse in the whole western world y'all had to fight hard for things like healthcare and now people over there take it for granted. They're going to take these things away from all of us and it will be bad but part of me believes that the human spirit will only take so much before we come together.
Well, if shit really hits the fan, it could come sooner than you think. If Trump wins, the US will disassociate from NATO more than ever before. Trump has made clear that he is willing to abandon allies who don't cough up their fair share to the NATO budget.
This could embolden Putin and provoke an attack in eastern Europe. Best case scenario, this turns into a Ukraine-like conflict, likely focused in Finland or the Baltics. Worst case scenario is WW3. Either way, Trump will do the bare minimum to help. That would shift the huge burden of responsibility to western Europe - the UK, France, and Germany in particular.
You honestly coulda just stopped at "Trump has made clear that he is willing to abandon allies." If I had to guess, even if a country who was contributing a proportionate amount of their budget to NATO as the US, they'd be thrown to the wolves
As an American, you’re probably correct. This country is so FUCKED…
VOTE!
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Is the UK actually doing well economically? All I've been hearing about it is straight negative, but might just be my circles
Nobody is doing well economically at the moment.
He will not win. I'm happy to know you'll be at least be pleasantly suprised by something in the future.
I'm of the mind that America is actually quite screwed and he will win. Of course as someone in the UK
Yeah I'm from the US and it feels 50/50 meaning tha yeah probably Trump i guess
No shot he wins. I live here and yeah... he's got alot of fanatics but January 6 was AFTER he already lost. He has gone full blown dictator/Hitler in his rhetoric since then and turned off alot of republican voters who don't identify as MAGA, Independents, and sure as he'll motivates Dems to show up to polls. He's also wasting so much money on legal fees instead of campaigning.
This is a great take. Honestly I want anyone to take presidency. Because at least they will do something and they can at least talk in complete sentences.
Screw people accusing who did what. Idfc let the person who will make a difference be in charge
Idk, doing things like creating his own bible really got under the skin of some Christians, who are an important part of his base. I’m of a mind that the Trump campaign will have a lot of foot-gun problems by November.
Honestly, how is he still alive? Doesn’t he take pride in having a crappy diet?
Over the years he claimed that he improved his diet at the start of his presidency. He still drank a lot of Diet Coke and was seen eating McDonald’s here and there but he wasn’t seen eating unhealthy as regularly once he became the president. Or at least he avoids that image now.
I mean he does eat his mcdonalds burgers with out the bun idk
If he runs again in 2028, he'll be 81 and probably dead because of his diet and health
I would not be upset about this at all, that’s all I’ll say 😅
Whether you think he'll win or not, make sure you go out and vote and insist that others do it. The only reason he won in 2016 is because we all thought Hillary would win because there's no way people would vote for Trump. It's only a lesson we should have to learn once in our lifetimes.
With our luck he’ll live to at least a hundred, I feel it in my bones 😔
Vote, organize, and make sure.
My trump obsessed grandfather even said that he was considering Biden. This dude has so much trump memorabilia and anti biden facebook posts
Let’s be real, old man Joe win last time and we see how well he’s doing.
It’s honestly just a ride. They might go back and forth for ratings.
I just want the two to fight in the wring.
I would actually pay to watch Biden and Trump wrestle. Maybe they would accidentally kill each other lol
See that’s what I’ve been saying.
Get some intro music when they walk in to debates.
Get this thing looking like the superbowl and I guarantee you Americans will tune in.
Imagine if they displayed each candidate’s top donors as sponsors, too.
Exactly. Get people bidding on them.
Push it further and make elections a national holiday so people get the day off of work.
Free slushies if you show your “I voted!” sticker
Vaccine trends coming back
Same better then all this YouTube boxing bs
He will lose again but take enough republican votes with him in the process.
I feel like the answer to this is for a bunch of ultra liberal, progressive gen z age 18-25 (bonus point for queer POCs) to act super on board with the idea of abolishing term limits 💀 they’d get on fox and back track quickly calling anyone supporting that proposition unamerican.
If the only way to push them back is to appeal to their hate... we have no hope:(
I have been trying to little effect to make people realize this.
There isn’t love anymore. Not an ounce of grace given to another person that votes differently than you.
We’re all forgetting that we’re the same fucking people that have to live by the same fucking laws.
Honestly a masterclass in societal manipulation by the wealthy elite. They got half of America to hate the other half instead of the government that’s fucking them in the ass every day.
When the people who vote differently than me are trying to put candidates in office who want to take my rights away, is it really surprising that I have no love for them?
I would love to. I absolutely would. But the fundamental issue is that the righties can’t acknowledge me, or the issues I face. I say “I’m hurting” and the response I get isn’t “how can we help reduce the pain.”
They have no empathy/sympathy for me, and can’t even understand me. Why should I give a mouse a cookie then? I can absolutely agree to disagree on economic policies, but the race blindness that ignores blatant dog whistles, the systemic sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and racism, all are just ignored because “we live in 2024, the (insert minority demographic here) should be appreciative with the rights they have.”
I can’t have respect for someone who has no empathy/sympathy for people.
It's not about people voting differently. It's about people being willing to vote specifically for a person like Trump, and now the ones that do trying to be exempt from the laws we are all supposed to live by, like Jan 6th.
This is so funny but actually also might be a winning strategy
You understand the republican psyche well. You should go into politics.
I fucking knew they would want to abolish term limits. This in of itself is totalitarian as shit.
My god. You’re a genius.
just say “removing term limits is communism” and they’ll fuck then right off
Lol right-wing cope
as a right winger, i agree. trumpettes are huffing the most insane copium if they think that trump is running 2028.
I hate american politics. I live at the other side of the planets and i have to worry about them! Its not even my own country for godsake!
If the polls are correct, he can't run again, because that would be a3rd term
I think it should be illegal for him specifically to run. I mean, 2 impeachments, 88 felonies, somehow arrested and not in jail, and of course the insurrection. I'm not sure if there are already laws in place for this scenario, because Trump has never happened to American politics, but he needs to be stopped from even running in the first place. Imagine if any one else had his track record.
republicans set the term limits because they were salty at fdr winning 4 times. Then they keep trying to repeal it whenever they have the house. Fucking on brand.
Fun thing is, the amendment limiting terms only limits it to two of any consecutive three.
He could pull this off.
Legalese-speakers of Reddit, please confirm or deny this.
Edit: thank you Legalese-speakers of Reddit - and non Legalese-speakers of Reddit who took the time to look something up - for proving me wrong.
Nah the amendment states that no one shall be elected to the office of president twice, or once if they served 2 years as president and someone else was elected. ( if a VP takes over president and serves 2 years they can only run once.)
I am a legalese speaker (BA poly sci+JD) and I do not think he can pull this off. 22nd amendment limits anyone from being elected person from being elected president more than twice. Period.
The only funny little deviation in there is someone who fills an unexpired presidential term lasting more than two years is also prohibited from being elected president more than once. That means a person is limited to 10 years of presidency in the US, and that is that. Consecutiveness or lack there of does not come into play 😅
So unless the republicans get their heads out of their asses long enough to somehow completely abolish the amendment this is just a bunch of wishful thinking on their part lol. Dems could easily get them to give up on this fantasy by trolling them, agreeing to let Trump run in ‘28 if they’ll let Obama or even Clinton run against him. They’d retreat quickly lol.
Obama would win.
We should just abolish the 22nd amendment now and let Obama run again
No literally. I am intrigued by the thought of saying “yeah you guys are so right, if trump somehow wins 2024, 100% let him run again in 2028! And let him run against Clinton or Obama while we’re at it” I seriously wonder if they’d double down or back track.
I have a pretty good hunch.
Oh no, but OBVIOUSLY your third term can only come if you're previous two were non-sequential. So Trump can run but not Obama.
Also they need to have been president within the past 8 years or they are out of experience
Also they need to have first been elected in a year that ends in a 6 or a 4
Also they need to be white
god i miss obama so much man ;-;
I doubt he’d want to even run again. The office took a toll on him
Even if he did, Michelle wouldn’t let him
If we abolish the 22nd amendment let's elect the desiccated corpse of FDR for a 5th term
if biden is too old then what's this?
Well, you see, Biden is considered too old because they don't like him. However, Trump is not too old because they DO like him.
the corpse of Ben Franklin 2028
I feel compelled to mention that he was never president
FDR coming back for a fifth term
I spilled my drink
I remember people wanted Obama to have a third term.
Man, we’re 3 months into 2024, 8 years after Obama left office and ppl are still wishing that the man got a third term, we didn’t get half as much bullshit under Obama, that “wanted” should not be past tense 💀
Seriously...
Biden is like a watered-down, older, less mentally capable version of Obama... Obama would definitely be a more respectable leader of America than another term of Biden.
We all took Obama for granted 100%
I also remember that. The job definitely ages you though. IDK how well the stress of more terms would allow you to do the job well.
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I hope so. Evil has a strange way of surviving.
Yeah, just look at the evil scumbag Henry Kissinger. The bastard made it to age 100.
I will take that bet fr if you are down lol I'd be so happy to be wrong and buy you that combo meal
Deal.
deal
You say that, but that would be a stroke of luck we could never hope to get
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God we need both the right and left to stop putting fucking flesh bags in charge,WE NEED A MAX AGE!!!
I’m thinking it should be the average life expectancy minus 20.
+/- 10 yrs from the median age of the last census
60 should be the max age. Period. MAYBE 65.
I imagine the dementia will have taken over completely by then, and there will still be morons in this country that would vote for him.
He probably won’t live that long considering his diet
This dude probably has access to the best medicine and doctors this country has to offer. He’ll be alright lmao.
But he eats like crap and doesn't take care of himself. The best doctors in the country can only do so much.
Can we please stop electing people that are so old that we even have to worry about them having dementia in the first place? Anyone over the age of 50 has no business working in the government. Why can’t these old people retire and enjoy all of the money they’ve taken in bribes or earned through insider trading while in office? They already screwed us over by ensuring we will have to deal with an increasingly unstable climate over the next few decades; why are they so insistent on preventing progress until the day they die?
Idk about over 50. Maybe over 65. Government requires a metric fuck ton of experience to be effective. Careers take a LONG time to work through. At 50, you’ve probably just started figuring out what the fuck is going on.
It’s worth noting that conservatives pushed for presidential term limits because they were very upsetti spaghetti about FDR getting elected 4 times.
should've been 5
Check on r/conservatives
They hate the idea of 8 more years with him too
Are they planning to vote against him?
Some yes some no
Personally I prefer 4 more years of Biden than trump, I don’t like Biden at all & Biden might drop dead 2 days into office but at least we won’t have Trump’s crazy ass in office
Maybe I missed it, but searching by Hot and Top I don't find any threads about this.
I do see "Trump posts video on social media showing a hog-tied Joe Biden painted on the tailgate of a passing truck" as the third most upvoted post this day, though.
Even if he won and somehow got the republicans to pass a constitutional amendment when they can't pass appropriations for a ham sandwich, he'd be dead first
I am saying this right now. I am shocked if Biden and Trump are alive by 2018. Trump eats fast food a lot, and Biden is 81 right now. At least one of them drops dead before 2028, if not both
Imagine they both die at the same time while on a stage. Imagine what would happen
Dear god i dont ask you for much, but please let me have this.... I want to see the pure comedy that comes out from this
Trust me americans, we filipinos did that 40+ years ago and we accidentally created a dictator who's family still had a major grip in the political landscape several decades after edsa revolution
Once u have a dictator, u wil never truly have a democracy
I would be very surprised if he won and then left willingly when it's time to leave....
Too late. There will most definitely be a younger candidate running on Democrat platform. Even the republican dolts realize making it young vs old is a loss.
Idk about all y’all but every civics class basically drilled it in my head that if the president tries to fuck with the 22nd amendment it’s time to start rioting.
they do realize obama is still alive right?
That would legit be hilarious. Can you imagine how the chuds would lose their minds.
We need a cap on how old you can be to run for office. I say you have to be younger than 65 by Election Day.
I'd say 60 honestly
Plz have a heart attack.
Of course American Putin wants to do this
He has already won. Media will continue to run interference with Biden Is Old stories, while judges let him run wild. He looks stronger with every failure to hold him to account. This is the elite's grab for the brass ring. No more taxes, no more regulations, no more elections. They get to own it all, while the rest of us pay more for less, pissing away money on rent.
Why America lets such old men even run for this job?! Grandpa, go back to your rocking chair
Supremes have already let trump ignore the 14th amendment. Why wouldn’t they kill the 22nd next?
Right wingers: Biden is too old! Also right wingers: Donald Trump should be president until he dies!
So the same people that bitch and complain about any alteration to the 2nd amendment now want to completely revoke the 22nd amendment. I don’t know how these people even manage to put their socks on in the morning since their brains are smoother than silk.
This guy was friends with Epstein
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I'm confused
Mind well seeing trump 2050
I've unironically seen trump 2032 posters
Here's the article for full context: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/trump-2028/
It makes the case that making the Twenty-second amendment only applicable to consecutive terms would still retain the intended spirit of the amendment while giving voters more choice and freedom in who they elect.
It references Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama as two former Presidents who publicly stated that they could have won more elections, although my knowledge Obama never publicly expressed any actual deside to repeal the Twenty-second amendment.
On the subject of age, it points out that if Trump were running in 2028 then he'd be the same age that Joe Biden is now.
At this point how has there been no other viable candidates
This requires a constitutional amendment. Not possible these days
I’m always astounded at people who drastically want to change these sorts of things. It’s kinda like what George Washington said to the boys when they wanted to crown a king in america: “Hold on fellas… we waged war against a king … to install another king?”
For fucks sake we should have term limits for every member of administrative government . Long term service hasn’t done many people favors except for those who seek to get rich from their office over time.
I have a prediction, Biden will win the election but retire the year after and hand over the task to Khamala Harris, which will make her the first female president.
Prediction I have
I dunno. Should get better than this if you want to be like Yoda. Weird syntax isn’t enough.
Admit it, we all knew he was going to eventually try
The more the times goes, the more I see trump things about wanting to change amendments, but when it comes to 2nd they are “there’s nothing we can do, it’s there for a reason” yeah no shit you murderer piece of garbage
Getting real tired of seeing Trump and the braindead GOP inserting themselves into everything with their insufferable takes. Just throw the man in jail already.
Please god, no.
I honestly wish he never wins again.
random shit take op ed
Must be a political faction defining opinion, no possible way it could be otherwise.
Just exile him to Guam or something
So is he already gearing up a 2028 campaign if he loses and wanting to destroy term limits if he wins?
Only getting worse from here bru. Arm up and keep your head on a mf swivel
Don’t worry about tRump; he won’t live that long. I wonder who his running mate will be….that’ll be our “Forever” President!
trump will be the same age biden is now in 2028 yet conservatives say biden is some old skeleton and trump is somehow "way younger" lmao
They literally said “77 is way too old!!!” 4 years ago when Biden was 77 and Trump 73. Suddenly now 77 is fine but 81 is too old!!! Trump wins and in 4 years when he’s 81 it’ll be no problem. Rules for thee, but not for me. Fucking joke.
If Trump wins this election, I'm moving to Alaska.
We have a Trump worshipping Republican governor who just vetoed a bipartisan bill that would have provided the entire state with the education budget it needed to function.
It's not going to be better because it's far away. Alaska isn't a sanctuary, it's just as infested with shithead politics as anywhere else.
oh i was hoping he admitted he already lost when i saw the year
Lol. If you think he could actually do this idk what to tell you
How about this. You take down 22nd and i take down 2nd.
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Boring tired and unrealistic. Not even conservatives want more than 1 more trump term.
I don't think he's gonna still be above ground. His dementia is progressing rapidly.
Yeah this doesn’t seem like a good idea, and if removed, would cause a putrid Putin situation…
I would say that I would like someone that isn’t old as shit and über corrupt but that’s a pipe dream, no one who ISNT über corrupt isn’t dumb enough to run, so we can only vote for the lesser of the two evils which is impossible because they both are equally as terrible
One is a narcissistic pile of shit who seems to want a civil war, and the other can barely fucking walk up some stairs, let alone run a country
What makes it worse is I can’t even put in my worthless vote because I’m underage
King Eric Trump Jr. has a nice ring to it
Hey guys how do i add my user flair
If he wins USA gone 1984
Now that’s definitely an interesting argument. Note how it keeps Obama out of the mix
Is he going to wheel around in his wheelchair, gnashing his chompers?
Is he going to
Wheel around in his wheelchair,
Gnashing his chompers?
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People act like this is the only time people have questioned presidential term limits
I can't seem to find this page, anyone else?
Honestly- I am down for more than 2 term limits. Let Obama come back and he will win in a landslide
and then blow up some more hospitals.
I don’t think he’ll be alive or functioning for that
Just gonna step in and say even if an amendment for this somehow passed both chambers, it’ll never, ever have enough states ratify it. We can relax here.
It’s like they saw the trailer for that new “civil war” movie and literally ignored everything but the idea of a 3 term president.
I was gonna ask why they’d use a photo that wouldn’t stand out on a Leprechaun movie poster, but then I realized that’s probably one of the better photos they have of him.
so they finally realized that he's not winning this term 😌
I’m not voting for trump!
Or any of the other candidates
I’m british
And not old enough to vote
Both presidents suck, at this point, fuck white america
He’ll be dead
🔥 Harris in 26
Man the USA should just bring back George Washington and abolish the 22nd Amendment. He can fix this country with his third term. /s
Bro isn’t going to win. His MAGA cult doesn’t represent Republican voters as a whole. His campaigns generate less and less money compared to Biden. All his previous campaign well wishers do not trust him with any funds, loans, etc…
You know in ruby red Florida, droves of Boomers are leaving the state because coat of living and the fact that they can’t insure their homes without paying an arm and leg lmao.
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