I can never get a clear answer to what emoviolence is, there seems to be a lot of confusion around this genre and I’m really trying to wrap my head around what elements it has more or less of (I.e. mostly powerviolence with emotional lyrics, punk combined with blah blah blah) every response I see combine multiple subgenres into emoviolence and it is very confusing. All I know is I love Orchid and Saetia but god damn will there ever be a definite genre these type of bands fall under? it’s always mentioned with skramz, hardcore, emo, screamo, post-hardcore, and punk but on Reddit “emoviolence” is thrown around and mixed in with these and it is very confusing. main reason why I’m asking is I’m in a “punk” band as a singer but if I just start spitting some shit that is similar to orchid, would that make our songs immediately emo? screamo? skramz? hardcore???? it’s all so confusing.
Screamo but louder and faster with more panic chords
To me emoviolence more closely lines up with punk, I think this is mainly the correct sound though I consider PG99 in emoviolence camp and they're a little more sludgy in sound.
I agree that it definitely lines up more with punk. Whenever I listen to these relatively popular “emoviolence” bands like Orchid and Pg.99 they seem to have riffs resembling what you would see in punk. Same goes for their lyrics. For example when I look at the lyrics for My Application to Heaven, New Jersey Vs Valhalla, I Am Nietzche, etc. they don’t have “emo” lyricism or an “emo” tone at all. The topics on the songs might be edgy but that doesn’t seem to correlate with emo. Like in pg.99’s My Application to Heaven he literally screams/sings about how religion has failed him and if god did exist he would rip god open and fuck him. Doesn’t sound very emo to me.
Said this a while ago but I think emoviolence is a bs term and it’s all just powerviolence. Minute differences. Yes jayson green was arguably the first “emo kid” but they made brutal hardcore punk and later got a little sassier. They are known as THE emoviolence band but they themselves just state they play hardcore
"Emoviolence" is definitely more in touch with hardcore and powerviolence. Emo IMHO is kind of a mix of hardcore and indie rock, and various other genres, and also has personal lyrics. "Emoviolence" bands like Orchid and Pg. 99 seems to be focused more on politics and philosophy, but both do have their more "personal" songs like "...And The Cat Turned to Smoke" or "in love with an apparition". I guess you could say they're "emoviolence-adjacent"? IDK.
I think "real emoviolence" only consists of bands like Nuvolascura, Lord Snow, Roman Candle, etc. which take a much more harsh, powerviolence-inspired approach to screamo, but retaining the "emo" part.
EDIT: Did not mean to make a new copypasta. Ugh, force of habit.
EDIT 2: I've also noticed "emoviolence" bands, whether fake or real, use a lot of "panic chords" (as mentioned on another comment). Basically power chords, but extremely harsh and annoying to most people's ears (that is, most).
When I hear panic chord I think of daughters first record lmfao. Full of them
See this is what makes labeling bands so confusing for me. Bands like Orchid and Pg.99 have songs that fall under a multitude of genres however when these genres are placed to generalize these bands it gets confusing for me. Essentially what emoviolence seems to derive from is powerviolence and emo, powerviolence is related to thrashcore and grindcore, thrashcore is a subgenre of hardcore punk, and hardcore punk is (obviously) a punk subgenre. These names are pretty new to me so learning this extensive family tree along with the multiple subgenres that are incorporated into these bands’ songs boggles my mind. Oh and also the other names and history lessons thrown around in these comments. Scrambles my brain.
Edit: But at the same time is emoviolence completely emo + powerviolence??????????????AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH