Who do you think wins in a no holds barred fight between the two and why? Both get an hour of prep time.
And then duke silver would come out and entertain all the near by ladies
Oh are duke and Ron friends?
I think andy mentioned they are twins
That’s cool! Ron has a brother??
All that time in the Parks Department and no one but Lesslie knew about his brothers...
"You worked for the government?"
No... Yeah he has ONE brother
I have never seen them both together in the same room.
I heard he makes mature women swoon
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The Steak of course, will be goat.
The next you see is Ron getting chased off the farm by Mose.
Ron: "I have no idea what that animal was, and I wasn't about to stay and find out."
Dwight: laughs
Absolutely, remember that Michael beat Dwight in a fight.
Because Dwight was hired to protect one man...Michael!
But only if he could figure out which snowman was the real Dwight.
He would probably just shoot them all. Boola boola boola!
Boola boola boola!
This is the correct answer!
Yeah Dwight is like fake prepared and Ron is literally always prepared. No way Dwight would win despite how much I enjoy both characters. He literally hit himself in the face with a phone I just can't see him winning in any universe.
Ron Swanson. Hands down. Dwight was outsmarted by Andy Bernard for gods sake.
An ineffectual, privileged, effete, soft penis’d, debutant.
Still one of the most savage insults ever. The lizard king don’t fuck around.
This is one of my all time favorite Office quotes. Im the fucking Lizard King
People usually think The Office shouldve ended after Steve Carrell left but I dont agree purely bc then we wouldve never met Robert California. One of the most fantastic, absolutely insane characters ever made.
James Spader 100% nailed this role. I remember watching the episode when they interviewed all the potential new managers and really hoped Robert California would get the part. I like those episodes with him.
In the episode where they interviewed him, he does this masterful head tilt when he looks at the camera. Like he's reading the viewer just like he read everyone in the room.
James spader is one creepy mother
Yeah and he nailed ultron too
I hoped Will Arnet was in at least one episode more but yeah. Them bringing him on was a great decision and he just fucking nails it. Every line delivery is just perfect.
Robert California? You mean Bob Kazamakis? 😂
silent prius approaches
Silent under 5 miles an hour, he deserves the win
You don't even know my real name. I'm the fucking Lizard King
I love that line every single time. James Spader was amazing in that show.
No doubt, people hated him I guess because he was supposed to replace Steve. But he was 100% amazing and hilarious in the role and exactly opposite of Michael.
The halloween episode and the divorce episode when the whole team parties at his place are my favorite one. Especially the halloween one where he rambles on constantly.
For as short of a run he had, one of my favourite characters in the show. He's did a fucning incredible job.
Yeah but Andy studied at Cornell. Have you heard of Cornell? The Ivy League school?
It’s pronounced colonel, and it’s the highest rank in the military.
It's pronounced CORNELL and it's the highest rank in the Ivy League.
Andy went to Cornell? He never mentioned it
They called him Ace
And got beat up by Michael too!
Michael also knew “a ton of 14-year-old girls who can kick his ass.”
…Michael knew a ton of 14 year old girls? 😬
Well, his dating profile name was Little_Kid_Lover, so it shouldn't be a surprise.
What belt are they?
That’s one of my favorite lines in the series!
To be fair, he lost that because he was respecting the rules of Karate whereas Michael was just going all out
If they were both going all out, Dwight easily takes Michael
Michael fought dirty, plus I feel like Dwight went easy on Michael cuz you know…Michael can’t be bested haha
What rules of Karate did he respect? Can you go through the fight and list each instance out where if Dwight didn't respect a rule, he could have easily beaten Michael? I'm pretty sure there's no rule that says "if the opponent is on top of you trying to spit in your mouth, you must cry and beg him not to do it."
He couldn’t fight Michael full out because he’s his boss and he idolized him too much. If they were strangers Dwight would’ve won. And the sensei should’ve stopped the spar when Michael tried to spit in Dwight’s mouth lol
Ron Swanson ,I don't even think it's close.
Dwight always strikes me as someone who is a lot of talk and not a lot of backing it up (I'd point to the scene where he makes Jim go through the door first so he doesn't get attacked from behind.) He always struck me as the sort of guy who READS about things without actually putting them into practice.
I figure he would spend a couple minutes talking about being familiar with seven different forms of Krav Maga, but Swanson uses that time to craft a baseball bat on his Lathe and just beats Dwight down as soon as it's done.
Dwight also did karate for over a decade and still barely can do it. He also hardly beat Michael in a spar, and couldn’t overpower Jim at the Florida conference.
Ron is shown beating people up on more than one instance, doesn’t embellish his skills, and has a mustache.
He lost to Michael at his dojo. Ron would massacre him
He loved Michael and couldn’t fully commit to sparring against him. He did get manhandled by Darrel. (Darrel is a beast of a man, though)
To that point, Ron wouldn't let his emotions get in the way. Unless he's fighting Tammy
The only way Dwight is winning is if he uses his prep time to track down Tammy.
Plot twist...Dwight wifes Tammy.
Which one? Like to think he would go straight for Ron's mom.
I'd peg Dwight as a Tammy I kind of guy.
I'd peg Dwight
Tell me more...
I mean, with all the weird Schrute rules... Why not multiple wives? Angela and Tammy.
oh god... Angela and Tammy would probably kill one another.
Tangela.
Wich he would absolutely do I think
I also thought Michael kind of cheated. He wasn’t following sparring decorum, so it struck me like the old adage of “Don’t play chess with a pigeon- he’ll knock the pieces over, shit on the board, and strut around like he’s won.”
Sheer size does more in a fight than movies like to show. Darryl would be hard to take in a fight.
Yeah but dwight has weapons hid in the office his car and probably his home
To Ron everything is a weapon. I’m confident that Ron could do more with a folder than Dwight could do with a gun.
The safeties...on
“That folder, in my hands, is far deadlier than this bow in yours.”
Ron hands down. Although Dwight has shown himself to be capable with pepper spray. And prevented multiple knee cappings (that he also helped set up)
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Ron has bacon stashed in secure places. I'm pretty sure he could hit Dwight without bruising him.
Let’s not forget that Ron put starlord out with a bear hug, and he’s half celestial!
Before Ron took his first step Dwight would cower and beg for mercy due to pure animal instinct in vicinity to a truly dominate male specimen
Wait hadn't he just had some major abdominal surgery at the Florida conference haha. I think he gets a pass there.
Oh shit, that’s true lol. His appendix burst or something
The mustache, of course, is the source of his power
“Are you really revving up? You know that doesn’t work.”
“Snap that kick Dwight!”
His Sensei calling him out in the children’s class he trains in
And has a mustache. Brilliant! 👍
It's Ron hands down but I can't "vote" one way or another because I can't decipher who each little head is there. Neither look like either!
“And he had a mustache” - no way around it, Ron wins with mustache powers
The Florida conference Dwight had just come out of surgery for appendicitis and should have still been in the hospital recovering. That’s why Jim beat him in Florida.
and has a mustache.
This had me cackling
This. Think about “gun safety Dwight”. He’s supposed to be a weapons expert yet he mistakenly fires a gun in the office, while spinning it on his finger. Dwight suffers from Delusions of grandeur in almost everything he does.
Ron, and it’s not even close.
Okay so now do Dwight vs. Mac from Always Sunny.
Obviously Mac, didn’t you see him get that point against a black belt? And no he DID NOT make a poopy in his pants
Mac and Charlie also kicked the absolute shit out of that bike gang that stole his bike.
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True. Couple that experience with his awesome Duster, Swanson nor Dwight wouldn’t have a chance. Fucking Jabronis.
Yep and country Mac vs Ron
Easy, assuming Ron just kicked Mac's ass and Country Mac walked up after the fact: Country Mac would quickly assess the situation and deem Ron to NOT be a threat and then determine Mac deserved his ass kickage. Ron and Country Mac would shake hands while Mac is whining about why Country Mac won't defend his honor. Country Mac will then hop on his bike, ride off and die. RIP Country Mac.
There are a lot of TV shows happening here
Inaccurate, after a heated battle with Ron, country Mac would demand he apologize for attacking Mac, which after some consideration he would apologize for pandering to violence with a weaker and clearly inferior man. Ron would then offer to play a game of catch with Mac as restitution, and teach him to make a handmade baseball bat, and Mac would consider Ron a father figure, writing letters to him every week from Philly to Pawnee
As soon as I hit "weaker and more interior man" I started reading it in Ron's voice and it's just so soothing.
This would be the ultimate head turned slap fight
This is the better fight, and I don’t know who I take. I think I go with Mac when he was cultivating mass or when he was jacked around the Mac’s Pride episode, otherwise it’s a coin toss.
Obviously Mac. He’d assess the threat with an ocular pat down then do karate kicks.
Right. He's straight from r/mallninjashit
In the match up Dwight would be more analogous to Jeremey Jamm, and we know what Ron did to Jamm.
Ron is basically what Dwight imagines / wants himself to be
He does have strategically placed weapons all over the place though and was able to take Roy down mid-swing.
The best example of Dwight's tough guy talk is the Animal Control episode. He's got this plan to capture the bat, and he's barking out orders like he owns the place, and he's supremely confident because he's dealt with animals his whole life.
Except whenever he opens the door he immediately ducks down and starts screaming, "Baaaaat! Baaaaaaaat!"
He is technically a black belt tho
And Jim bitch slaps him in the doorway. Michael pins him to the mat and hits him repeatedly. Dwight is all hat, no cattle.
But he wins with the snowball fight and very close with the poisoned dart.
I don’t know, his reaction time with the pepper spray and the bike chain with Andy make me think that he’s doesn’t hesitate to play mind games with people about his fighting abilities. He’s okay with them thinking they can stream roll him when he’s really a ruthless beast.
And he did a good job of defending himself against himself.
he's making you look sooo foolish
Agreed
Dwight hasn't actually shown much proof he can actually DO the things he talks about. Apart from saving Michael when he was doing his survival show, but that wasn't much
Yes. Dwight is paranoid, Ron is prepared.
After seeing Michael and Dwight have a karate match I am confident Ron would win
Have April schedule it for March 31st since that day doesn’t exist. Then Ron doesn’t have to deal with it.
Ron has a full calendar that day, but he is available anytime on the one-teenth of Marchtember.
This is the true answer.
And Karen and Ann are looking at each other wondering how the hell this is happening
Karen and Ann in the same universe... I'm listening.
Ron because I know a ton of 14-year old girls who can kick Dwight’s ass.
You know a ton of 13 year old girls?
What belt are they?
Aktually he said 14 yo in the show 🤓🤓🤓☝️
Who let the lemon head into the room?
As much as I love Dwight the clear answer here is Ron. Dwight is a farmer who plays martial artist but tbh isnt that good at it. Ron is a legitimate tank with zero pretension and is about 3 times as good at everything as he lets people believe he is. Dwight would underestimate him, make some big statement about being a black belt, and Ron would hit him in the jaw once and it’d be over
Just like he did to Jeremy Jamm
Self Jammed
Ron would let Dwight punch him in the face, Ron wouldn’t flinch, and Dwight would curl up in the fetal position crying like a baby
Dwights blow would glance harmlessly off Ron's mustache.
I find it absolutely disgraceful that no one supported Dwight in here. I took the liberty of making a list of everyone who didn’t follow him in here. Jim. Oscar. Creed. Me, at first.
Ron Easily.
How about Jan Levinson vs Joan Calamezzo.
I would pay to watch that.
I would fight Joan, but I would not fight Jan. I say Jan wins.
Joan would give it some heart but Jan would pull a razor blade out of her shoe and cut a bitch down
Jan vs. Tammy 2 would be pretty epic to watch.
Tammy 2 got psyched out by Diane, I think Jan would just use her manager skills on her lol. Jan vs. Diane would be a good match.
Diane, hands down. Jan would fight dirty, but Diane is a Warrior Princess…. AND a Cylon.
Jan is drunk but Joan is coked out of her mind, Joan would win
I don't know, Joan seemed like she had issues staying conscious a lot of the time. Jan, on the other hand, has that Dundee cannon for an arm...
Joan is kooky crazy. Jan is scary crazy. I give it to Jan.
Jan got her life back together after leaving Michael. She would legitimately be scary.
Joan was always a trainwreck, and the trains just kept coming...
Wanna see Ron lose?
Put him against Stanley after cancelling Pretzel Day.
I have never seen that look in a man's eyes
Line cutter!! Boooooooo
Or have Kelly tell Stanley that Swanson is chatting up his 14-year old daughter in the break room at this very moment.
Boy have you lost your mind, cause I'll help you FIND it!!
THAT is my daughter she goes to Cath-o-lick girls school.
or after accidentally doing his sudoku
Or tell him he can leave early
Ron hands down. I often feel like people misunderstand the character of Dwight in this sub
I feel like people often misunderstand a ton of stuff about the office.
IE, the scene where Michael's upset about Angela's cat died but gets the name wrong, people seem to think it shows he actually cares about the office when its just him trying to get people to forget he hit Meredith with a car.
Michael is a savant when it comes to remembering small details about people’s personal lives. It’s an established part of his character and the reason why he was such a great salesman.
That's a fair point, but doesn't explain why a minute later he calls the cat Prinkles after listing off reasons why it wasn't his fault he hit Meredith with a car and its because of a curse.
Being able to remember details about people to help manipulate them into buying product from you doesn't mean he's a saint.
Michael's a deeply flawed and selfish human, he shows growth over the series sure, but he's mean to people he doesn't consider cool and desperately craves validation from those he does. I think deep down he really does care about others, but he cares more about himself always.
He's far from the most caring individual people paint him as in this subreddit, simply because they've become attached to him as a viewer. Its like breaking bad or the sopranos they get you rooting for a horrible person because you are invested in their story.
I don’t disagree with you there. Like you said, “deep down he really does care about others, but he cares more about himself always”, and I think this scene is an example of that. To me, part of his initial reaction was genuine because at some level he cared, but his selfishness kicked in as he immediately tried to manipulate the situation in order to help him out of his current predicament.
I think his second mispronunciation is because he is upset, his feelings are spiralling into amok and his brain is going a mile a minute
That fast huh? At least it was only Meredith.
His second mispronunciation seems improvised and it's so funny
Michael doesn’t get the name wrong. In the scene before, Dwight calls the cat Sparkles at first. So he messes up the name. Michael remembers correctly
They don't fight. Dwight immediately recognizes the power of Swanson and falls in to place.
Assistant to the parks and rec director
That's April's job!
Well they can fight to the death for it. My money is on April
To be fair I've heard April has an in with special agent Burt Macklin.
Ok. A little about me...I respond to strong leadership.
It's like Dwight wrote this comment about himself
It reminds of when Darryl grabs Dwight for trying to usurp his office and simply drags him out by his hair.
Dwight: “Well fought. I accept the outcome”
Is this a joke? Ron swanson would kick the piss out of dwight and then eat a steak on his corpse lol.
The real question is if Dwight has access to any of the Tammies.
Remember, Michael kicked Dwights ass in KARATE
Dwight couldn't even stop a surprise attack from himself, Ron in a landslide.
Setting: Schrute Farms - Dwight has a pitchfork, Mose shifts uncomfortably in the background. Ron walks up with a baseball bat he just made.
Ron: We don't have to do this son.
Dwight: That's a great bat old man. Where'd you get that? Some fancy store in Indiana?
Ron: Actually, I made this out of a Scot's Pine branch I found outside my hotel last night. I whittled it with my pocket knife last night.
Dwight: *grabs the bat* Let me see that.
Ron hands it over as Dwight becomes more and more impressed. They bond over Dwight's appreciation and Ron's mastery of old world craftsmanship. Ron now spends his time at Schrute Farm building and rebuilding everything he can see while Dwight takes a new job as the director of Scranton's Parks and Rec department. *cue theme music*
Wow that’s a great idea if Ron was at schrute farms I could really improve a lot of the place. Or at least fix the outhouse door so it doesn’t flap open in the wind.
Where Dwight might be amazing at the parks department. He would have to be Leslie’s right hand man and they would either love or hate each other. He has a great work ethic and could be an amazing support to Leslie who has had to do all the work on her own.
Could you imagine Dwight at one of those town hall/ forums, lol. He would not like the people talking to Leslie like that. Although he might be recruited off to Venezuela.
The final breakdown scene would be realizing that even though Dwight has only been getting 2 hours of sleep at night for the last 2 weeks he still cannot keep up with Leslie and he's starting to go through psychological breakdown from the stress of pushing himself to try to meet his understanding of Leslie's impossible standards.
And finally we see Dwight hiding in a closet, surrounded by unfinished paperwork, crying and holding himself rocking back and forth when Jim leads him out with the invigorating smell of an unwashed beet fresh from Schrute farms.
The closing scene is Dwight back at the office being interviewed by the camera, and he's talking about how he's glad to be back in the office. When Leslie is mentioned he says yes, I love that woman more than I love my own mother but I know that she deserves more than anything I could ever offer her. She's given me an understanding of the world that I never could have gotten in Scranton.
Ron. 500% chance Ron Swanson wins. Increased prep time just increases those chances. However, decreased prep time also increases those chances.
Swanson unless Dwight has pepper spray or Swanson has a hernia.
Ron definitely, hes a bit older so he is more wise, and has more experience.
Rainn Wilson is 5 years older than Nick Offerman
How the turntables...
This is absolutely blowing my mind for some reason. And that Rainn is 14 years older than John Krasinski
But Ron is older than Dwight, no? At the time of each series taking place.
Actors age not being relevant if we're talking about the characters in their respective shows.
The people on this sub are not gonna like my answer...
THEN I'LL DOWNVOTE YOU PRE-EMPTIVELY!!!! GHAAAAAA!!!!
Ron Swanson. The writers of PaR stayed true to the premise of his character. Dwight's essence was often traded for comedic value. Diluted the character.
Ron was a better, improved version of Dwight.
I think Ron is nothing like Dwight. One loves his job insanely, and the other want to terminate his own position. Dwight cares about everything, and Ron cares about very little. Dwight idolizes every form of authority (Michael, the sheriff, the boat Captain, Josh). While a true libertarian like Ron would reject the authority of others in favor for the personal freedom to do want you want.
“I can do what I want
-Ron”
I know more than you.
Ron
While I completely agree that the characters are very different, I think OC was referring to their roles as characters and their archetypes more so than their personalities
It's nowhere near close, Dwight would either think he's safe due to his martial arts training (which we know he's not), or set up traps and/or weapons which would inevitably fail. Ron Swanson is smart enough to bring his shotgun or any other weapon. Given his practical thinking vs Dwight's superiority complex, he'd probably also get right to the point while Dwight tries something stupid. I know Dwight isn't entirely stupid, but he's definitely more stupid than he thinks he is.
Ron. He’s always ready, Dwight would need an hour to remember where he’s stashed all his kung foolery.
The better question is who would outlast the other in a survival contest out in the wilderness.
Ron Swanson wouldn’t need an hour. He can go then and there. And just with a stare he’d put Dwight in such a state that he’d buckle under pressure and treat Swanson as his new master, I mean manager.
I think right in his final moments, Mose would somehow take out Ron, leaving a half-conscious Dwight to reason he won the fight.
Interview scene afterwards with Ron holding a cold steak to his jaw saying, "That Mose fella throws a heck of a punch... I should invite him over for dinner."
Dwight is amazing and I love him and I totally see what you're doing but..... Its Ron. Even Chuck norris would think twice before trying it on with Ron.
I think the more interesting question would be who would last the longest in a middle-of-nowhere survival situation. Ron is an outdoors enthusiast but Dwight grew up in a survival of the fittest situation.
Imma be controversial and say that the “prep time” gives it to Dwight, only because I don’t think Dwight would fight fair esp if it’s “no holds barred”.
I think Dwight would booby trap the place or escalate things way beyond just throwing hands. Rons tough but if Dwight decided to like, show up and hit him with a car at 40 mph he’s still done.
In a straight up fight ron tho obviously
Even Michael beat Dwight
And with preparation, Andy also beat him
I think people are severely underestimating Dwight. Most of the examples of his poor fighting skills were in the earlier seasons. As the show progressed he's shown more prowess in combat (e.g. Roy, snowball fight). The only times he's lost in later seasons were when his opponents fought dirty, which I highly doubt Ron would do.
I'll admit in a direct confrontation Ron would win, but with enough prep time Dwight(final season) could reasonably win.
Not enough people are supporting Dwight here. I think Dwight wins purely because Ron would take the “honorable” approach and use fists only.
Dwight would take full advantage of the no holds barred and bring his pepper spray or bull tranquilizer at the very least.
Swanson might win the battle, but Dwight will win the next battle. He will wake up stronger than ever because he will have used that time to figure out exactly why he died and what moves he could have used to defend himself better now that he knows what hold he had him in. By then Swanson will be old and soft and dangerouly smug, with muscles as supple as veal, thinking he defeated his only natural enemy decades ago. Ripe for the plucking, while Dwight will yet be in the infancy of his rise to true greatness. He will flick Swanson like a pesky mustachioed booger that took so long to dig out.
I love both these guys but as prepared as Dwight could get before hand Ron would eat a steak, drink a scotch and knock Dwight's ass out in one hit.