I was laid off from my janitorial job at an office and ive been trying to apply for school janitorial jobs that are morning shift and all of them ask for 2 letters of recommendations. Who the hell is gonna give me a whole paper recommending me as a janitor? No one has time for that especially since im already laid off.
Is there an easier way?
We had to TB test as well
Yet no drug test. Then again if you tested, probably about 60% of the district would get fired
My district doesn’t do letters of recommendation and only does vaccination history and TB test
I didn't need a recommendation letter, but they did call every reference and prior job.
And the guy who posted about the FBI background & fingerprints is accurate.
You're gonna be around children what do you expect?
Agreed!
However, I will add here, when I applied to get my Firearm Permit to Carry license (in Pennsylvania), they called NONE of my references or listed contacts, which surprised the hell out of me.
They never call me and I've been a reference for 5 people in NY
For maintenance and head cleaner you’ll only need a driver license.
Im saying former managers wont do it
Maybe they don’t want their names attached to you then? lol sounds like a personal problem to me
Thanks Dad
Welcome to being around kids and keeping up a good public image. Some districts require letters of rec some don't just depends. Backgrounds will definitely be done so expect to do a live scan.
I didn't need any letters but I did need 6 references. 2 were phone call references in which they had a small interview regarding their opinions about me and the other 4 were emails in which they had to complete a questionnaire/survey. I was also pretty shocked. And it was incredibly difficult coming up with 6 people, especially since I didn't have any prior work history for the last 5 years. I'm surprised they hired me lol
Because of the kids safety maybe
I give letters of recommendation all the time.
But anyway, download “google VoIP” you can setup up extra phone numbers that ring to your phone for free.
use chatGPT to write you letters of recommendation and leave contact info that you setup on google VoIP.
They’ll call you to follow up on the faked recommendations
I don't think those letters need to be long at all; just a couple sentences, really. You could have them email it to you and just print it out. That, along with some contact info of the person who wrote it, should be perfectly acceptable. Could be a former manager, coworker, or even the office people you cleaned for.
Is there anyone at your previous job that you had a good relationship with? Not just managers. If not, try family members, roommates, friends.
As others have said, safety is important to public school districts. They don't want to hire creeps or weirdos. Even so, I've worked with plenty of weirdos who were hired... so it's really no that hard to get your foot in the door.
No advice for the OP, just a small rant about the overly bureaucratic school hiring process.
Imo, letters of recommendation and/or reference checking is complete BS for a job that often does not pay well.
First, when it comes to being around kids, letters and/or reference checking accomplishes nothing that fingerprinting along with a background check does not already handle. Second, people in our lives, such as, previous work supervisors come and go very quickly nowadays.
Mine wasn’t like that but I also live in Florida lmao. Started 2 years ago and quit then came back this month.
lol it was easy for me took them two weeks to hire me
Only two weeks!? It took my district 2 months. And even then they weren't prepared for me. My first day no one new I was coming and everyone was like "who are you??". It took another 3 weeks before I was given a school email and badge..
😭😭oh nah, they called me in the second week to get my badge, fingerprints etc n started the week after that
Cause 90% of other custodians out there do a shitty job. They wanna make sure you at least faked it enough to make someone not regret hiring you in the first place. Also, not saying its right at all but, most districts its not about what you know but who you know
Eh how is 90 % possible, when cleaning is not a hard task to do somewhat well. After a while you do the bare minimum. Why go above and beyond for crap wages.. to impress admin? Then ppl right out the gate are getting promotions to lead/ salaried positions simply for dating or knowing a big wig.
This one old lady who thought everyone but her was doing a crappy job. I find most schools have the one who think they are the most important, or their section is hardest and everyone else is lazy. I try not to take myself so seriously and not be a keener karen.
Maybe my number was exaggerated for effect. You are correct. Cleaning is not a hard task. Some people still cant even reach that bar. Why go "above and beyond"? Maybe cause you actually have some pride in what you do. I dont do shit to impress people, I do it for my own personal gratification. Shit wages? Naw bro, I make a damn fine wage and when you account for benefits and pension, its even better. Whatever tho. I got a great crew that busts their asses for me and our site looks great. They know theyre appreciated by me as a supervisor and I show it more than just a pat on the back
I act my wage. I have pride in that i won't take shortcuts, but i am not going above and beyond.
Have fun working nights your whole career
thanks! I hate mornings and not a morning person. Have fun sitting in a chair most of your life.
Because you will be around young children all day. They are also going to do an FBI background check and take your fingerprints