Humorous phrasing in title but genuine question: if a forger was to create a stamp that rewrites them as a better forger, could that forger then rewrite themselves as a better forger etc etc?
Could you do the Skyrim alchemy exploit with Forgery?
SpoilerCosmere (no Yumi/SP3)This is true, but potentially irrelevant. If you're a level 5 forger who creates a stamp that makes you a level 10 forger, you stamp yourself and use your powers as a level 10 forger to craft a stamp that makes you level 15. You don't have to put that on yourself at the same time as the level 10 stamp.
You'll still have limits, but it'd be up there with "as invested as an Elantrian, or 50,000+ Breaths, or a Herald.
Does a Forger's Investment scale with mastery? I assumed it was just skill that made them better.
It doesn’t, it’s just skill that’s affected. I think they interpreted it as layering the stamps on top of one another
Stamps are temporary, though. So: stamp self. Make new stamp. Wait for old stamp to wear off. Repeat with newest stamp until reaching desired mastery. Make stamps for every occasion.
But what if you just made a stamp that made to a better forger while you were the slightly better forger, waited for the stamp to wear off, then apply the new stamp, rinse and repeat?
So it would be expensive but possible.
Maybe not too expensive. Only cost i can think of is the material for the stamp, and any investiture needed. Being on Sel and near the Dor fills the Investiture question, and the stamp material would be on the scale of perhaps tens to hundreds (not thousands) of breaths dollars.
I think this would work, but only within reason.
The main thing here is that the story has to be believable to your base form. Like, you can make yourself a more talented forger, and you can make it so you started years earlier, and you can give yourself a better teacher, but that all only goes so far
For example, if your town has 10 forgers that could teach you, you could change yourself from having the worst teacher to the best, but you can't make yourself be taught by a better forging master if the better one lived a continent away. And you could make it so you've been forging since before you could walk, but not from before you could crawl. And you can only have so much talent
Add that to the fact that to successfully Forge yourself, you need to already be top-tier, meaning you probably were taught be the best masters available.
You have to start so high you have no room to expand.
That's true, I forgot how high the baseline was there
Yes but you’ll max out at +128% per invested item.
I would say no. The stamps are highly detailed and you must truly know the subject. It’s not a vague “I’m a better forger.” I would assume the stamp would have to be of such great detail that you just are a better forger. Maybe a “level” 15 forger couldn’t make a stamp for a level 5 forger to become a level 10 forger.
Shai didn't have to know the skills she gave herself with forging to create a stamp that gave them to her.
You just have to know the path you'd take in detail, which isn't very hard, because you're really just making yourself start earlier and be more motivated.
This should work up to a point. Being a better forger, or much better forger is doable and realistic. The more unrealistic the alternate history, the more investiture is needed to pull it off. Eventually, the concept of being such an "amazingly good, best forger ever" is so unrealistic that it would require infinite investiture to pull off.
Maybe? But after so many levels, you'll end up just making yourself a better stealth archer regardless of what your goal was at the start. An unfortunate part of the process
Kinda. You would probably hit a cap at some point. But if Shai made herself a better forger she could theoreticaly make her elantrian form more easily?
Potentially, yeah. It would just become harder and harder to fit more experience in as time goes on, yet the new skills may help to somewhat offset this. There’s also a possibility that the Investiture of a stamp would interfere with a new stamp, but that can be counteracted by just removing the old stamp
No because investing an invested item becomes exponentially more difficult. So eventually, you would just lack the raw investure to put more forgery on yourself