I recently saw a clip of Jake Zyrus singing Pyramid on Facebook. Nakaka-nostalgic lang and ang ganda ng feels na kinakanta niya pa rin 'yon. Nakakalungkot kasi mas maraming haha react kesa appreciation sa kaniya (or ewan, ang OA ko siguro).
Pero may nagawa ba siyang problematic thing at naging meme or katatawanan na lang siya ngayon? Kasi if wala naman, talagang nakaka-lungkot na naging katatawanan na lang siya ngayon para sa iba magmula n'ong in-embrace niya 'yung true identity niya.
Even before her coming out, bullied na sya because of her looks.
Naalala ko yung pancit canton meme
I find her cute naman like ‘yung looks nya sa Glee and Oprah
pretty naman talaga siya. when charice (sorry for the deadname, want to emphasize that era) started with pop songs like pyramid, she was also discovering her personal style and wore makeup, etc. she was actually really pretty! pero after niya nag transition, doon natin na-realize na that was not the real charice. there was jake struggling to come out. and he’s actually happier that he did.
us feeling bad for losing a national treasure is our problem. wala nang responsibility si jake for that. though, i’m sure na he understands naman his impact in our country.
Jake is still a really good singer as well. He can't reach the same high notes as he used to because of the testosterone, but he is still a fantastic singer (these notes are high for a tenor, which he now is):
https://youtu.be/VYJ2PCr-6hg?t=160
Still gifted. That did not change.
Magaling sya sobra. Masyado lang nabuyangyang sa publiko yung personal drama nila kaya nakakairita lalong lalo at di naman sya kasing ganda ng overexaggerated na standards ng mga pinoy.
Pr disaster. I don't think na dahil lang ito sa stigma. Kasi mahal na mahal din naman ng mga tao si ice seguerra.
at first isa rin ako sa nasayangan sa boses niya kasi iilan lng ang may range na ganon ka taas pero ngayon na iintidihan ko na hindi na mn siya sayang kasi naibahagi niya na man sa buong mundo boses niya may mga video pa. Hindi na mn nawala yung pagiging magaling niya, yung mga technique na natutunan niya before andiyan pa rin naman, ang nag iba lng is yung range ng boses niya, he can offer something different now using styles and techniques na nalaman niya.
attitude wise wala na mn ako nabalitaan na problematic siya, yung issue/hate sa kanya is looks and gender niya.
As a former Charice fan, Jake Zyrus' songs just aren't doing it for me. I don't really care about all the transition stuff because well, if that's what will make him happy then go ahead. But I can't really force myself to keep supporting an artist whose talents and art I no longer connect with.
And no, I don't think Jake did anything problematic. Mas problematic pa yung mom niya (Raquel). But Filipinos in general aren't very kind to LGBTQ, and Jake is a huge target for them because his career took a nose-dive after transitioning. His US career is dead, his PH career is stagnant. Most artists he worked with before like David Foster has pretty much dropped him. I think he just needs a hit so that people will start liking him again. That has proven to be elusive so far.
Agree on the unkind treatment of LGBTQ. People claim that Filipinos are accepting of the lgbtq but not really. They are tolerated at most, but accepted, it is still a long way. Which is sad tbh.
yeah :/ i tried listening to his new songs but it’s not doing it for me.
Anong style ng new songs nya?
mostly acoustic e, unlike yung 2010 album nya na Charice. marami talagang bop like, Pyramid, Reset, etc. big fan nya ako dati huhu
Maganda rin yung Louder, imo mas maganda pa sa Pyramid. Mas catchy. Pang international talaga ang vibes.
I still sing Reset and I Love You until this day hahahaha.
And yes, yung discography ni Jake Z ngayon, hindi ko masyadong feel. I wanna support him as much as I want to pero hindi lang talaga pasok sa current music taste ko yung mga releases niya.
Yeah wala dn siya ata nung concert ni david noh. Knowing na andun ibang local talents pati si sb19 member (di ko alam ang name). And Jake na he helped raise to higher level echapwera. Wala na talaga ang charice before. Hirap na comonect sa kanya.
I think it's because Jake's music is different from when he was still Charice. Charice's style fits David Foster's, not Jake's. Unless Jake is willing to sing Charice's old songs and I know that Jake has tried so hard to distance himself from his old identity even though we catch snippets of him singing his old songs every now and then.
Ang interesting nga kasi when Stell sang All By Mysself, andaming nagcomment na si “Charice” ang naalala nila (not even Jake).
Ganun kataas yung bar na na-set ni Charice, at par na ni Celine Dion kung tutuusin.
Walang papantay sa rendition ni Charice ng All by Myself. Nada.
Ganyan talaga mga Filipinos sadly, mga ignorante..
Like mga anak ni Shawie si Miel parating haha any posts about them kasi LGBTQ tapos vocal pa and body shamed din nila
Pero todo labas ng mga bible verse mga hypocrites
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Was a fan din, and di ko rin trip ung new songs nya.
Favorites ko ung renditions nya ng Note to God at Crescent Moon.
Sa original naman nya, iba talaga dating ng Pyramid sa akin. Sobrang ganda nun.
this is pretty comforting for me ngl ako din was a fan of his pre-transition pero di na din nag click sakin after. pero he’s so so happy you really can’t blame the guy. Pass SOGIE Bill po!
The hate is coming from the transition from Charice to Jake because he is often compared to Ice Seguerra who did not underwent total transition and maintain his voice while as comparison to Jake who went for total transition.
The general consensus is people wouldn't care at all if Jake transforms physically as long as the voice of Charice remains.
Yung ibang fans yan din ang opinion. Kasi yung boses nya ang source ng livelihood.
Do the people who say he should not have transitioned coz his voice is his source of livelihood even bother to check Jake Zyrus net worth? There are artists who are busting their asses off up to now and they can only hope to earn as much as he had.
Yan din yung source of fame niya. Ngayong wala na, laughingstock na siya to the point where hindi na siya iniinvite ni David Foster sa Asian tours niya.
Masakit din kasi yun bilang mentor, tiyak yun napakalaki ng oras, effort, finances na ibinuhos niya para sa career ni Charice, at ang pinakamahalaga, yung tiwala niya sa talent at mass appeal nung bata.
Ramdam mo yung optimism ni David Foster noon para sa kinabukasan ni Charice. Kahit all for finding your identity ka, hindi mo maide-deny na sayang talaga.
It's sayang for us, but I doubt Jake cares at all in the end.
Ang interesting kasi halos sabay lang sila ni Justin Bieber magsimula ng career.
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Actually same side ako dyan. Dami din lesbian artist na di nagconvert. Alam naman natin na sumikat sya dahil sa boses at kanta nya, kaya makakanta pa sana nya lahat at makakabenta ng shows kung di sya nagtake ng meds para maging lalaki.
Hindi kasi sya lesbian, but trans. Malaki difference. He identifies as male.
Not here sa technicality ng identity nya, ang point lang ay nawala yung source ng fame at income nya due sa gender transition.
Yup. Yun yung bread and butter niya. Di ko matandaan kung kelan ko nakita pero may clip siya dati ng interview niya na parang somehow may regrets siya dun sa pag-a-out niya o yung transition kasi pati boses niya pinatay niya eh. Nabigla din siguro. Di rin naman kasi masisisi kasi yung nanay niya mukhang pera eh. Parang mommy Divine ni Sarah. Naisip niya siguro kung mabubura niya totally niya yung identity niya bilang Charice eh mawawalan na ng kapit sa kanya Nanay niya na nangyari naman.
It's a tough choice for sure, pero the fact na handa siyang talikuran yung fame, prestige, and money ni Charice, so he can be himself and live his identity, is admirable. Nanghihinayang yung iba, pero it's a choice he did so he can truly live as who he is.
It's like hitting two birds in one stone. Nakalaya na siya sa Nanay niya, nakalaya din yung tunay na siya.
Trans sya pero sana niretain na lang nya boses ni Charice
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Sigurado kung yan ang naging desisyon niya, hanggang ngayon may international career pa rin sana siya at champion na ng LGBT community.
dagdag mo pa yung nega vibes galing sa nanay nya.
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I wish Filipinos will be more educated regarding SOGIE. Wala naman katawa tawa ginagawang katatawanan or meme.
Hindi sila magiging educated hanggang may religious na dictators
Transphobia tapos fueled pa yan ng toxic “nanay mo pa rin yan” / “pamilya mo pa rin yan” mindset dito sa Pilipinas. It’s harder for him kasi nanay niya mismo biggest hater niya. A lot of Filipinos villainize him for trying to break free from his toxic mother as well.
Parang kay Julia Barretto. Yeah, may separate issues pa siya pero sa general public hindi nakatulong yung pag imply ng tatay niya na ungrateful daughter siya nevermind that just like Jake, she’s just merely breaking herself free from an abusive parent.
Narcissistic and abusive parents are the worst.
His transformation is the main butt of jokes. Inasmuch as may negative reputation siya as an artist before, I think it's really the transition from Charice to Jake that is the main issue. The physical change, looks, voice and all. People just could not accept that he NEEDED to change THAT MUCH. And to the eyes of the spectators, hindi pleasing yung change. And with the mob mentality that we have, it's either one or the other. PIling piling tao yung binibigyan natin ng "pwede na" or "sige na nga okay na yan or okay lang" pass. Unfortunately for him, it's the former. :( With how people comment and react about him, they are giving "sana nagladlad na lang siya pero hindi nagbago ng itsura at boses" type of remarks.
When singing Charice's songs, it does not hit that much anymore, wala na yung impact ng Charice voice.
May negative reputation ba siya as an artist before? Wala naman akong naaalala. People are just transphobic and are not comfortable seeing him change. Walang pleasing pleasing sa mga Pinoy na transphobic. Puro laugh reaction nga sa FB if there's a post about gay marriage, pride, etc.
May mga chismis noon na nagbago siya pagkatapos ng guesting niya sa Ellen at nung nagrebrand sya (yung blonde era niya). May something sa kanya na parang ang taas ng tingin niya sa sarili niya, lalo kapag naiinterview siya ng media. I don't think pagiging prima donna yung negative issue sa kanya, more like nage-exude sya ng "di mo ba ako kilala" attitude, the way she talked, replied, expressed herself. She even once expressed yata na even sa circle niya nayayabangan sa kanya or something.
Nagpatong-patong na yun eh, she was successful, on top of her game, then she came out, the family reacted of some sort, Jake Zyrus was out in the open about his relationship with Alyzza yata name nung babae at kaliwat kanan yung bira sa kanya, tapos reactionary siya sa mga bagay bagay, giving off a nega vibe, kaya di siya trip ng tao, dagdag pa yang transphobia nga after she came out.
Oo iba ang awra niya after nag guesting siya sa Ellen. Nawala yung humble image niya. Sa X Factor, I feel nag eexude yung pretentiousness niya. Parang gusto maging lady gaga level na honestly di naman bagay sa kanya. Then naging Jake Zyrus, which ni retrospect baka he was struggling with his identity pero ever since na nabigyan ng big break parang lumaki ulo niya. Ngayon back to being humble na ulit si Jake Zyrus because his star is no longer bright than it was.
I remember, vaguely, nung judge siya ng isang show tas parang super aggressive siya to the contestants then ineedit nilang meme yung buhok niyang blonde na kulot pinalitan ng pansit canton. D ako tutok but it was unforgettable kasi peak bullying
Nagsimula to nung nakipag elope siya dun sa Alyssa Quijano ba yun? The publicized relationship with the mom left a bitter taste in people’s mouths.
Nakipag break din yung Alyssa after wala ng datung and di na sikat si Charice/Jake Zyrus. Walang pinagkaiba sa nanay, pera lang habol.
Parating ini-issue kay Charice noon mayabang daw, feelingera pagdating sa english accent nya, problematic ang nanay, at yun nga bakla daw (noong di pa siya out). But to be fair, sa boses niyang yun meron talaga siya ipagmamayabang. And I think she was just confident sa talent niya. Pinag-aralan niya pano magsalita maayos ng English pero ang ending minasama pa din. Tingin ko favorite lang talaga siya i-hate ng mga Filipino both as Charice and Jake. Wala siyang magagawang tama sa mga mata nila.
ohhh totoo itong comment mo. "AYAW sa kanya ng mga tao just because". wala lang, ayaw lang sa kanya, kahit anong gawin ay ayaw sa kanya. hays, ang hirap nun. pero buti nakakahinga na sya ngayon for being herself.
Majority of Pinoys are so offended by Charice’s and Jake’s existence. I remember they also relentlessly bullied Charice for her looks. Pangit daw samantalang she had the typical Pinoy features. Seriously, kung ayaw nila sa music style niya ngayon at sa pagiging trans niya, libre naman siya i-ignore at mag move on. Hindi kailangan manakit ng damdamin ng tao kung di mo bet diba.
He came out to a homophobic, transphobic audience.
Mas problematic pa nga si Ice Seguerra at Liza Diño being DDS enablers at ngayon e pa concert concert na lang. Kadiri.
Jake Zyrus is living the life he wants to live. Ang toxic is the Pinoy society he hopefully left behind. Tama sya. No matter what people say about him, wala silang masasabi about what Charice worked for and achieved. Di sya katatawanan. He’s living the life na nagpapakatotoo sya.
Omg what DDS pala si Ice ☹️☹️☹️ nagpicture pa naman kami a few months ago nung nakita ko siya huhuuu
It's black and white: The reason is transphobia. Dahil nagtransition s'ya nawala boses n'ya, dahil nagtransition s'ya, nawala career n'ya, hindi na tulad ng dati and most Filipinos assume Jake did that decision na biglaan when in reality I'm sure pinag - isipan n'ya talaga ang decision n'ya mag transition.
No transman or transwoman would become trans na hindi nila pinag-isipan. Why choose to be judged and ridiculed by society? Kaya hindi ko gets kapag sinasabihan ng LGBT na magpaka-straight nalang eh. As if naman gusto ng LGBT ma-bully diba? Kaso biologically talaga the true them is what they want to be.
So sino ba naman tayo para pangunahan si Jake Zyrus? Naibigay na ni Charice ang Pinoy Pride, he already served us for years. Baka naman pwede na natin s'yang hayaan maging masaya.
Tumpak. Ang dami pang song and dance ng ibang comments, eto lang naman ang sagot. The Philippines and Filipinos (Yes, you reading this) are incredibly transphobic.
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Pero yung iba Halos comment ay boses talaga niya pinaka Sayang :/
i dont think people are asking charice/jake to be straight. pero when she took testosterone and her voice changed and she coildnt hit her high notes any longer, its the audience's prerogative kung interested pa rin sila sa music na ilalabas nya. dito pa naman sa pilipinas, mas bankable ang mga female singers, especially belters, compared to male singers.
personally, im happy she decided to do what she wanted and shes free to live the rest of her life however she wants to, pero mas attractive sa tenga ko kapag female singing voices talaga so im one of the people that stopped caring about her music career.
*he
Majority of filipinos are homophobic
So mas gusto ng Pinoy maging bully kasi daw mali naman kasi sa mata ng dios iyan pero hindi daw yung ginagawa nila kasi "Tinatama" lang kaya ayoko makakita ng ganito sa filipino yt at fb dahil may lalabas na feeling pastor
The transphobia is strong here, jusko po. Let Jake Zyrus live his life.
Wala naman siya ginawa masama pero I think most people kinda wish she took Ice's transition route too kasi yung girl voice niya yung nagpa stand out sa kanya before eh. He can still sing now pero yung male voice niya very generic na. Y'all gonna hate me for this pero siguro the ridicule is based sa outcome din ng transition niya. I rarely see F to M transition na bumagay rin kasi sa Asian. Madalas yung mga caucasians na nag F t M transitions bagay, kasi full beard and tall rin kasi sila. Kaya minsan yung act niya or kapag sumasayaw siya na pa hot kunwari parang di bagay sa looks kaya nabubuo yung mga memes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYJ2PCr-6hg&t=160s
I don't find his male voice to be generic because most male pop singers right now can't belt those notes with such fullness and resonance.
For example, Jericho Rosales straining on the same climax note (G4): https://youtu.be/tqUgenOb6-s?t=145
What sets Jake Zyrus' voice apart from other male voices is that Jake has excellent quality. I hope ma-appreciate ng mga tao yan.
I saw this video of him once na yung caption “Berting Labra” and good lord, he really looked like him. Yun nga, for someone na gusto mag showbiz, yung look nya yung hindi na gusto ng audience.
Parang wala naman syang issue. Kaso lang nga, sa Pinas na mejo backwards ang pag iisip ng mga tao pag dating sa pag tatransition na ganyan, people are gonna make fun of him no matter what.
Di naman ako againts sya ginawa nya, kasi buhay naman nya un, and sino ba naman ako. But I’m not gonna lie na tumataas pa din yung balahibo ko pag nadidinig ko mga old videos ni Charice na kumakanta, lalo na sa ibang bansa. Nakaka proud.
Pero ever since nag transition na sya, idk, wala na Kong ma feel na special sa boses nya. I’m not saying na panget, it’s just not my cup of tea na. I’m not all for birit lang, pero we can’t deny na world class naman talaga talent noon ni Charice. With Jake now- Hindi maiwasan ng madami na I-compare yung Boses nya Kay Charice, kaya parang naiinvalidate tuloy yung talent ni Jake.
And gaya nga ng sabi ng ibang comments sa thread na to, bread and butter nya ang pag kanta. After nya mag transition, nawala na yung pinaka puhunan nya sa industry.
Nakakainis yung mga nagsasabi ng "sayang". At least he's actually brave enough to do what he wants even if people mock him so much for it. Just enjoy the remnants of his old self.
Kahit nmn anong post, nag "haha" react nmn talaga mga pinoy kahit hindi nakakatawa 🙄
Depends on who you ask. He’s a laughing stock to the ignorant but to the more intellectual people who are doing well for themselves, he is living his life based on what he defines to be happy and successful. And that’s okay
love how jake embraced their identity & became so open about it. hate their personality though which was clear as day, cis or trans. think ppl put up with them before because they can belt like no one but when T started to kick in, wala na. very douche-y pa nya with cringe thirst traps 🫠
Jake uses masculine pronouns. He/him/his. He can still belt beautifully as well, but I don't know why people expect tenors to sing as high as women. This includes cis men too, honestly. I don't know why people are so impressed with Stell from SB19 trying to reach the 5th octave when his belts are much better from like, A4 and below (with the occasional nice B♭4s)
You have to understand charice gained her fame from the really high notes she can reach and her singing prowess, once all of that is gone whats there to admire? It had nothing to do with her transition. She was known as a wonderful singer. Have you heard her voice after the transition? Now as he has a new identity and wants to be known as the new identity and not as charice he cant just take the fame that charice had, He has to create his own.
Jake is still a great singer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYJ2PCr-6hg&t=160s
It's just unrealistic to expect a tenor (whether cis or trans) to have the ease that Jake did before transitioning with 5th octave notes. But Jake can still belt amazing tenor high notes. Listen to Jericho Rosales (a cisgender man) trying to belt the same climax note (G4): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqUgenOb6-s&t=145s
Jake has wonderful resonance and fullness on his belts. A lot of cis male singers don't even come close. But we should expect tenor high notes because that's what he is now. I actually like a lot of his belts now better than when he had that manipis, matinis sound
Ako nanghinayang sa boses. Grabe din kasi yung impact ng boses ni charice. Pero wala na yun. Wala na si charice at si jake na ang nanjan. Unfair lang yung naging butt of jokes sya. Tho nakakatawa yung kamukha nya si sandro 😂
medyo nakaka-awa din yung mga lesbian. Mga gay medyo tanggap na kasi maraming gays sa showbiz industry and sa workplace (tho may boss parin ako na lalaki before na galit na galit parin sa mga gays). Pero mas lalo yung mga lesbian, lagi silang tinatawanan and called many names: lesbo, tibo, t-bird, chibuli (tama ba? i just hear this), charice/jake, Lulu and many more eto lang alam ko. tapos they are being associated pa sa mio na motor. I feel bad for them. Maganda naman talaga yung Pyramid na song ni charice, if hindi mo alam yung singer, aakalain mong international singer talaga because of the voice and vibes.
Hi. Lesbian here. Jake is a trans man, not a lesbian. Not the same thing.
Grave nmn boss mo. Bakit nmn sya galit sa gays?
I feel like in this case, the gay men (especially yung effeminate ones) are mostly seen as entertainment, instead of being accepted as people, kaya sila tinatanggap. And I agree that lesbians still face a lot of stigma, especially butch lesbians, but Charice is a transman
Basta ako I love Jake kase kahawig nya yung kapatid kong tibo hehe
As far as I remember kasi sinabi nya na ibabaon na nya sa limot si Charice including all her songs, kasama dun ang hindi na pagkanta sa old songs ni Charice kaya siguro naging laughing matter kasi naalala siguro ng mga netizens yung mga sinabi nya nung araw while transforming to Jake Zyrus. We know naman netizens won't forget lalo na if you left a digital footprint sa internet.
I just hope maka recover ang career ni Jake kasi sa tingin ko may maipapakita pa din naman sya.
They hate him kase nga Nagtransition sya and He is SAYANG sabi nung mga taong kala Mo may ambag sa buhay nya
Syempre pag nagtransition eh mag-iiba na ang boses. Don sila nasayangan. Unlike Ice S na hindi naghormone therapy kaya preserved ang boses. Sad nga lang na boses lang ang nagustuhan nila. Nong nagtransition na sya, di na sya tinanggap nang buo. Mina-mock pa nila sa appearance.
The only "problematic" thing he's done was medically transition, and you know how transphobic a lot of people are... 😭😭 they can't seem to accept he's living his life the way he wants to now and that he's way happier than he used to be. But also I think it's also the fact that he's not conventionally attractive? Cause I know if you're a transwoman or transman, while still facing stigma, you can still be liked because. pretty privilege. I've seen that happen before. But in this case he's constantly being memed or compared to Sandro Marcos so yeah ☹️
Hindi na kasi niya abot yung mga nota nung mga kanta niya dati bago siya nagpalit-anyo. At nilalangaw na din ang mga shows niya. Hindi tulad kay Aiza/Ice na medyo maganda feedback ng tao kaya tinatangkilik pa din.
If you think about how Aiza transitioned to Ice, it was slow tapos maraming mga bagay about his transition ang di masyadong exposed sa madla. Safe to assume rin na Ice’s parents were supportive (nakita ko interview niya with his mom).
Charice to Jake Zyrus was relatively public, so heavily scrutinized. Then yung nanay niya pa na very vocal din.
Iba na boses niya kasi and ano ba bago sa Facebook.
I admire those who boldly make life decisions without harming others, and Jake is one of them. As bystanders, have his actions harmed anyone now that he's prioritizing his own happiness? Cheers to Jake! While we love gossip here, there are still many rooting for him.
Lungkot nga eh. Si ice seguerra tanggap pa rin. Lagi pa nga present kapag may programs/opening number sa eat bulaga. Mahal na mahal pa rin ng TVJ.
People just love to hate. Hindi ako nanghinayang sa boses niya. Siguro nung una, oo. Pero kung masaya siya ngayon, no regrets sa transition niya, then who are we to judge? Buhay niya yan. Kung nanghihinayang sila sa boses, magpaturo sila dun sa toxic na ina ni Jake para maging bagong Charice. At least he's now free to express himself.
Nakilala sya dahil sa voice nya, ngayon binago nya ito. So ano pa ineexpect nya, magbabago din syempre ang mga dati nyang fans
Wala naman yata talagang ginawang masama si Jake Zyrus. Di lang nagustuhan ng mga tao yung transformation nya. Ang harsh lang talaga ang mga tao. Nakakalungkot na umabot na tayo sa ganito. :(
Transphobic ang pinoys. Even sa sub na to maraming transphobes
Before pa naman sya magtransition, madami na talaga syang haters. Nasubaybayan ko to noon dahil sa tita ko na avid fan. Nung sumikat sya sa US ang dami nang nangbabadmouth sa kanya. Siguro out of inggit din idk. Wala pa naman ako nababalitaang issue nya even ngayong Jake na sya.
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Naalala nyo pa ba nung time na Charice was a guest sa GGV then while singing Louder, may girl na sumabay sa kanya na nagsayaw?
Parang wala naman shang nagawang kagagahan noon Umilap at pumangit lang sha sa mga tao non kasi nung nagreveal na sia at nagtransition na sia Kasi nasasayangan daw sila Kay charice gawa ng grabeng Sikat nia naman talaga noon
Wala ako natatandaan na may ginawa syang problematic sa totoo lang. Pero kung meron man please jog my memory.
Sa pagakakatanda ko lang talaga yung Mudra nya ang problematic, tapos ayaw siya maging lalake tapos sinasabi na bad influence ang girlfriend. Tapos parang nagsalita si Jake (hindi naman lantaran) na parang kaya ayaw nila mag transition si Jake ay dahil mawawalan sila ng pera, kasi nga itong desisyon ni Jake can cost him Charice Pempengco’s career.
Then parang pinili nya ata si girlfriend, pinili niya makakapag pasaya sa kanya and then he emancipate himself from his own family.
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Jake Zyrus is the name of my car. Dahil kay Jake Zyrus 😃
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Kamukha nya na kasi ngayon si Berting Labra.
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He/She destroyed her career. Period.
I think he wasn’t welcomed as well when he was still Charice. Baka her looks? And then when he transitioned, even a men’s magazine made fun of his new name and gender identity.
In retrospect, kawawa nga siya. Ive seen him in person. Heard him live (ata?). Mukang oks naman siya to deal with. Worry ko lang non that since his voice became lower, baka pumiyok at one point.
It's so sad to see hateful and bigoted comments even here sa reddit, mas masakit kasi galing pa mismo sa sarling community :(
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I could never bring myself to hate charice or even jake, but I would say this. Jake is the reason of my biggest what if in the Philippine music industry. Up to this day I still play pyramid and all the songs from glee, guestings from Oprah, Jake singing with Celine Dion and David Foster.
Fuck what could have been, hate on me if you want but what Jake accomplished on a young age could never be replicated by any mainstream Filipino/Filipina singer in his/her lifetime.
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I feel for him. Apaka brave nya for choosing himself. He had every chance for fame and riches pre-transition pero alam nyang di para sya truly magiging masaya.
I was recently at eastwood and was reading the names ng stars sa walk of fame sa eastwood mall. I read out loud Jake Zyrus’ name then my coworker’s husband went on this unnecessary tangent about how it should’ve been the name he had pre-transition. Sir I was just waiting for my Kape Kastila 😭
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Normal sa isang state na may 1.) failed education system, 2.) taboo sa loob ng bahay o sa parenthood ang sex ed and gender sensitivity, 3.) deep religiosity, 4.) corrupt government, at 5.) heteronormative, machismo, at patriarchal na society ang pagtawanan ang katulad kay Jake Zyrus. Pag kinorek o pinuna mo, ikaw pa ang mali.
The problem is not with Jake. It's the society, mas kaya tanggapin ang gays kesa lesbians.
Mas madali for gays to be accepted but for lesbians, they have to try hard ng hindi sila binubully. I dont know ha, baka hindi lang ako updated, pero wala ako masyado kilalang lesbians / transmen local man o global.
Feeling ko more than his choice to transform, more than his issues, the issue talaga lies within how society receive transmen.
As far as I can recall, wala naman siyang major issue. So pure tansphobia lang talaga and reason behind all the bullying. And add niyo pa yung nanay niya na gumagatong din minsan, posting things that are comparing Charice and Jake.. mostly in favor of Charice.
As a fan, nanghinayang din ako when he decided to fully transition, since it meant na he had to let go of his moneymaker. Pero 🤷♀️.. choice na rin naman niya yun.
naalala ko tuloy yung balita noon sa TV na kaya daw naging ganun si Charice (now Jake) eh kasi namana niya sa mama niya na nagkajowa ng lesbian noon 😂 not sure if hereditary talaga yan di naman ako expert pero natawa ako
If I was his manager then. I will advise him to become a billionaire first before coming out. Too many opportunities was lost.
Ang taas ng pangarap ng pinas para kay chariz tapos biglang syang nag transition. Wala dn pumigil muna sakanya. Kasi wala sa timing. Walang build up. Walang PR. Walang tapik sa mga bakla na oi tomboy ako. Bigla na lng nagulat na may jake na pala. Kung nag perform sya sa drag bars. Tas mga gay pride sa states. Tapos na bblind item siya na tomboy siya. Edi sana. Mas natangap siya. At the end of the day. Public figure siya. She should have acted like one. No hate. Just saying. I miss charize but not jake.
Naging Charice to Chariz siya sa mata ng tao pero nanghinayang talaga sila sa voice niya. Ganda e.
wala sigurong nakitang mali yung mga tao dun sa pagchange nya. ang naging kakatawang part lang sa tingin ko is kung pano siya mag act. parang masyado lang siya naging OA sa pagiging lalaki.
Paanong siya naging OA sa pagiging lalaki? May ginagawa ba siyang over the top na hindi ginagawa ng ibang mga lalaki? He's just embracing his identity 😔
Ang sad lang ng mga comments pati dito sa reddit. Paano pa kaya sa FB.
Sana kung hindi tayo familiar sa mga bagay bagay, before we put judgment, research muna natin kung bakit ganun ang mga trans. Kindness goes a long way.
si Xander Ford din pinagtatawanan sa parehong kilos e, ung astang feeling pogi 😅
FOR YOU. May studies na na nalelessen ng hormone replacement therapy ang dysphoria kaya nya siguro ginawa ang pag inom ng testosterone. People just need to get over him losing his former voice. Patay na si Charice and only Jake remains.
I have not heard any issues or situations na naging problematic so I think it’s just the stigma. It’s just sad to be hated for the identity you choose to be happy with. People keep saying it’s sayang as if may share sila kung nagpatuloy talaga yung worldwide fame from his past identity or nabawasan yung saysay ng buhay dahil lang di na boses babae si Jake. If he’s happy with his choices even without the worldwide recognition and wealth, that’s what matters most at the end of the day.