Since someone made a post about the most underrated guns in zombies, I’ll ask what are the most OVERRATED guns in zombies? I’ll go first:
DiscussionYou’re proving my point with it being overrated. It got nerfed during BO4s life cycle and now it’s one of the worst weapons in that game. The stats do nothing but support that it’s overrated.
Have you actually used it in BO4?
Spoiler alert, this dude does too much drugs. And not the fun kind 😂
I have, it’s one of the weakest wall weapons in that game. Have you?
Okay, you haven't played the game. That's fine.
when bo4 first came out it was the best. idk last time you played bo4 but that gun has been nerfed significantly. it is not that good anymore
It's also not bad and it still is a very reliable wall-weapon for EE's.
The issue is that if you want a good wall weapon for doing EEs, you're almost never not going to choose the Spitfire, as it's DPS and ease of use make it a far better alternative to the Mog. I would also go as far as to say that the Mozu, DMR, and the Escargot when PAPed outperform it in this regard as well. It's also a worse starting weapon than the Strife as well, so it's only other purpose would be as a casual/high round weapon, which it's also incredibly lackluster thanks to it's low ammo count and the fact that it kills zombies incredibly slow; it's easily one of the weakest wall weapons in this regard. It's good at one shotting a couple zombies in your way here and there, and it's solid for taking out boss zombies, but that's about as far as good things about it go. The fact that it's still considered one of the best weapons in BO4 (despite it being very clearly not), as well as the fact that I got downvoted to oblivion for calling it out as not very good simply proves my point that it's overrated lmfao
You can be wrong if you prefer. I don't understand why you would want to be wrong but ignorance is a bliss.
You have not suffered using the Essex during the Voyage Gauntlet and it shows.
you clearly have just not leveled it up. as soon as you get dragons breath and speed loader, it becomes by far the best starting weapon you can have, and PaP'd can last quite a while
By far the best starting weapon? May I ask when was the last time you played BO4? The Strife is better in almost all regards than the Mog, the Stiletto knife makes it a better point building alternative in the early game, and when PAPed the Strife has way more ammo and higher DPS, thus making it scale better into the late game. This is even with Dragons breath. It's the second best starting weapon, but that isn't saying much when a neutered RK5, the Essex, and a subpar SMG are the other alternatives to it and it's competition. It also was the best starting weapon, but again that nerf absolutely neutered it, and now the Strife has it beat by a country mile. Look at any semi-recent BO4 speedrun if you don't believe me.
Who are you playing with that ever hyped up the Kuda? I’ve never heard a single person say anything good about the Kuda. Everyone I plays with would rather stick with an out of ammo starter pistol than pick up the Kuda from the box unless it’s for the meme.
I use it as a point gun when the VMP isn't around.
I don't hype it up though
Kuda is often used in high round strategies because it's wall buy is in good locations.
I’m one of the very few people who constantly use the kuda. It’s honestly in my top 5 smgs.
Ngl I've really been starting to love the Kuda. I was indifferent at first but it's a pretty great alternative to other wall SMGs like the Vesper or VMP.
I’m not sure who you play or listen to, but I hear almost nothing but good things about it.
Bruh. I play BO4 almost every day and have been for months since I picked it up again to play with my son. You lost any credibility when you put the MOG on this list.
Objectively speaking there’s no reason to use the Mog tbh. The DPS is mid at best and kills slower than most other wall weapons on BO4, and the ammo is also pretty bad considering how mediocre it is at one shotting.
I…. don’t think you understand what the word “objectively” means. You can play different, sure. Good for you. But your subjective opinion on the MOG is not a fact my friend. That’s what objective would mean.
Objective means using stats to prove a point. The stats show the mog is a mediocre weapon at best.
Alright. Then back your point up and show me where these stats are.
I’m all about knowing the best weapons to use. So I’d love to know where you found this info. I find it sus that you were responding quickly till I asked you to backup your point with the “stats” you claim to have.
Okay, let’s look at the stats of the PAPed Mog 12 (I’m looking at the single packed version of every weapon here, if you want to see the fully PAPed, just multiply the damage values by 2):
DPS: 8370 Max Total Damage (MTD): 291,600 HS Damage: 4050 Ammo: 72
Now, let’s compare these to other wall weapons:
Escargot
DPS: 18,013 MTD: 660,000 HS Damage: 1375 Ammo: 480
Spitfire
DPS: 23,125 MTD: 406,075 HS Damage: 925 Ammo: 439
KN-57
DPS: 11,000 MTD: 455,400 HS Damage: 1100 Ammo: 414
Mozu
DPS: 29688 MTD: 807,500 Ammo: 170 HS Damage: 4750
Here are 4 other wall eeapons that outperform the Mog. DPS and MTD are the main things I look at when determining how effective a weapon is, and the mog is inceedibly lackluster in these regards
Dude. For someone claiming to know how to be objective, you are not providing the source for your stats. Also, DPS is damage per second I assume? And HS is headshot damage? I don’t know where the fuck any of this came from.
Also, why would you include the Mozu here with its obvious drawbacks? Weird choice. Spitfire is a top gun, KN is a weapon I won’t even take from the box, escargot is meh. You’re being really pedantic here and ignoring actual round experience and functionality/serviceability of these guns for “muh stats”, which you could have just made up for all we know. Never provide stats without the source. If you do, they will immediately get dismissed. Scholarly journal reading 101.
If the MOG is so mid, why is everyone else’s in-game experience that it’s awesome at odds with your “stats”?
If you want verify what I’m saying, you can use these weapons in game yourself. Zombacus has the health values for zombies on each round in BO4, all you have to do is use them and see when it stops 1 or 2 shotting. You can also use the wiki, look at the in game files, etc. you’re correct on both DPS and HS Damage, DPS is calculated by HS damage * rounds per minute divided by 60. This affects how fast a weapon takes to kill a zombie, which is very important.
What drawbacks does the Mozu have? Sure it’s reliant on headshots, but other than that the weapon is extremely good for basically everything. The other weapons you simply haven’t given a chance.
The last paragraph is an Appeal to the Majority fallacy, but to answer your question it’s because people have memory of the pre patch Mog, which admittedly was very strong, and don’t consider how the patch effected it in later rounds.
All my experience is from recently, as I already said. I have used every single gun on the game at this point, and I’ve used them all a lot to grind camos. Appeal to the majority is not the same as anecdotal experience, of which there is a lot. Nice try conflating two different things. And you still didn’t link any stats, I think I’m done here. It’s like talking to a parrot that says “stats!” but doesn’t provide any links.
Oh wow, this is just...bad
In every case you just suck
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He said in every case you just suck
Doesn’t mean he’s right though
He is
Galil
Good does not mean overrated, bad list
None of these weapons are good though
Gotta be bait dawg
I think the PPSH is very good. It has an insanely high rate of fire, very large mag count, it handles like a bloody SMG, and reloads ultra fast.
Is the recoil too high?
Why is it over rated? Because you can achieve the same thing with the Thompson wall gun?
I still love the PPSH but I guess for deep runs, you need the magazine size of the Browning or MG-42.
I didn’t put the PPSH on this list, but the issue with that weapon is it’s HS damage. It’s the best gun in WAW though, hence why it’s not on this list
Oh shit I didn't click the full pick, that's the bootlegger gun from bo3?? Yeah way over rated wanna be PPSH. Also, glad we can agree on something today Enigma!
Im confused where you are seeing the bootlegger OR the PPSH lol. the guns shown are the M1927, Browning, MP-40, Mog 12, Kuda, and Olympia
The M1927 looks like the bootlegger. The mp40 is not overrated though.
MG08
Since everyone is here wondering why each of the weapons are ton this list, let me explain:
M1927: Lowest HS damage of any SMG in zombies, ammo and ROF don’t make up for this weakness
Browning: Not only the lowest HS damage of any LMG in zombies, but the 2nd lowest HS damage of any bullet weapon.
Mog: Got gutted by a patch in the middle of BO4s life cycle, is no longer an effective weapon at… well, anything.
MP40: Only seen as good because of WAW MP and because it’s a good wallbuy on Kino. In zombies it’s the worst WAW SMG and is only even average on BO1
Kuda: 2nd weakest SMG in BO3 behind only the Pharo.
Olympia? Gross an M14 user.
I’m specifically referring to the BO2 version of the M1927, the BO3 version is a monster
Do we know what overrated means? You have motherfucking Mog 12 on this list and that weapon is one of the strongest guns in BO4.