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I would swap Diane and Todd. Diane is pretty normal and Todd is far from it
Todd is pretty polarising, not as badly as Diane, but polarising.
Princess Carolyn is far and away the fan favourite.
Exactly! She’s the best.
Isn’t princess carolyn a bit predatory in her industry of work? For example encouraging the student to pursue a lavish and potentially destructive lifestyle instead of finishing school in later seasons when bojak is teaching.
That she definitely is. And even though I love her, I gotta accept that she also tries to capitalise on things like mass shootings 🥲 But she's also really loved by almost every fan of the show, making her pretty much one of the fan favourites
I would say she's more then a bit predatory! I think sabotaging her assistant's promotion and lying to her face about it was even worse. And PC did it in a way that Laura had absolutely no chance of being promoted but would carry on working thinking she would be one day.
Like this was someone who looked up to PC as a mentor and possibly even a friend, and worked extremely hard for PC, and PC completely stabbed her in the back. It's something the fanbase and the show completely glossed over. I love PC but a lot of people act like she builds orphanages with her bare hands and overlook that she does a lot of truly reprehensible things over the course of the series, and not all of them can be excused with "oh she's a Hollywoo agent, she needs to be cutthroat and ruthless!"
What she did to Laura was hypocritical, too. Didn't Marv similarly refuse to promote her back when she was his assistant?
And what made it worse was that PC lied to her face about it, saying "those men wouldn't promote you and I tried so hard to make it happen! Of course I insisted on your promotion! Us girls need to stick together and look out for each other!"
It do take nerve.
So not only had PC sabotaged Laura's promotion, she also blocked her from being promoted indefinitely. If she hadn't found out, Laura could have spent years as an assistant, wondering why her career was going nowhere despite her excellent work. PC actually punished her for being such a good assistant. It's absolutely fucked up. There is no way you can ever trust someone who does something like that to you ever again.
That's what Hollywood does, unfortunately. The better you perform, the worse you're treated
PC on top I agree
Totally agree. I like Diane but she's far from my favorite. Todd is a little cutie patootie and I just wanna smush his adorable face
fan favorite is todd for sure
Princess Caroline.
i think it should be margot martindale
Definitely. Esteemed Character Actress Margot Martindale is objectively the best character. Pretty much everyone here loves her
Until you see the people who talk about how he caused a genocide and faced no consequences :\
When
When he swapped places with the Prince and accidentally OK’ed it (to be clear, I’m not a fan who has beef with him because of shenanigans like this that are very cartoonish, just brought up the prevalence of them once you get deeper into the fanbase haha)
Oh yeaaaaa the prince of cordovia I forgot about that 💀
I'd switch her and Todd. Todd is the fan favorite (and my second-fave of the main cast after Princess Carolyn), to the point that there's an episode called "Hooray! Todd Episode!". Diane, meanwhile, is way more realistic of a character, with her plotlines more grounded in reality than Todd (who once became prince of a third-world country and owned a clown dentistry company), and who was more likely to call out other people when they were being terrible.
I’d swap her and Todd
Straight up evil could also be that white whale that Diane wanted to expose.
True Dat
definitely, or Hank
I would love to take him down and finally topple the acropolis of monstrous hypocrisy that ensconces us.
There's a lot of characters in the show who exist to be awful people without much nuance (Vance, Hank, Whitewhale) because they represent a broader societal problem, so it's interesting when people jump to act like Bea is the only "evil" one. I guess they see her as too realistic.
vincent represents a broader societal problem? which would that be please? :)
Perhaps they meant Vance
I did, edited.
VINCENT😭😭😭
LMAO edited. I was exhausted.
Or Neal McBeal the Navy Seal
Aye, even Bea was not evil in the beginning. Josiah was.
Since when is Todd normal
Most people don't realize that Todd is supposed to be the "makes a shitton of criminal acts, but he's pretty so people love him anyway."
His soothing face is like a Matisse painting!
If anything it was his father who was the normal one
Beatrice should be replaced with Joseph Sugarman
Easily
Diane made this.
This is trash
Gina should be there as the cool one.
or normal.. because she’s normal 😭😭
I feel like Gina and Charlotte fit as normal characters
and same with hollyhock
Yes! I forgot about her, but definitely
That's what's cool about her in a world filled with emotionally unhealthy people.
💀💀
I would say that that Todd is more of a fan favorite.
or PC
I thought Joseph Sugarman or Bojacks father would be in the straight up evil category. Or Neal McBeal the Navy Seal.
Neal McBeal the Navy Seal isn’t evil, you just hate the troops.
no way bojacks father is worse than his mother. joseph sugarman on the other hand 100%
Was BoJack really made to be hated? I thought he was made to be hatted.
There’s definitely parts where you’re made to hate him. And he’s not written to be the most likable. But he’s usually a character you’re meant to route for and he’s far too complex in characterization and how they want you to feel about him for me to think it’s fair to say he’s just “made to be hated”. I’d put someone like Joseph or Vance since they’re written as one dimensional hate sinks.
You make good points, but he did get the number one slot for Hundred Most Hatted Men.
Most hatted men? What is that?
A list of men who've been hatted the most, duh
Made to be hated should be Beatrice, Butterscotch or Rutabaga. Straight-up evil should be Sarah Lynn's step-dad
I’m so tired, my eyes managed to read this as “Made to be hated should be Ruthie” at first and I was like “damn what beef does Reddit user yrmjy have with baby Ruthie 🤨”
Ruthie was a bit of a prick
made to be hated should be neal fucking mcbeal
This list kinda sucks tbh, like it could be worse but yeah.
I like this except I think the Gremlin should be Flip McVicker
Oh, fish!
“Mmmm…society” is obviously Maddie from “Escape from L. A.”
what does “Mmmm…society” even mean?
I think it’s actually something Maddie says when she’s just about to pass out from alcohol poisoning. Throughout the night she talks about society’s influence on stuff in a way only a teenager can. Kinda right but without the experience to really get it so it comes off as pretentious. In a prior episode BoJack does something similar in saying he can’t be blamed because it’s ALL society’s fault.
Todd is the normal one? Since when?
Sarah Lynn’s mother Carol Himmelfarb
I think the only ones that can fall under straight up evil are Hippopapalus and Whitewhale.everyone else has somewhat sympathetic reasons (drinking, shitty childhood and systemic inequalities seem to be pretty common) even Joseph Sugarman was doing what he thought was best for his daughter. those two are just abusing their power to keep the shitty things they did out of the spotlight
Esteemed character actress and fugitive from the law Margo Martindale is the fan favourite I think.
Last one could also be sarah lynn. She got less screen time than everyone thinks
A Ryan Seacrest Type can be the normal one.
Nah straigh up evil should go to Joseph Sugarman
hooray, question mark?
Beatrice is an awful person, but straight evil? Wouldn’t say that
Damn you did Max dirty
Also by fan favorite you mean me, I am the fan and she is my favorite. But just because her character writing is so damn good.
Obviously Mr.Peanutbutter is the hot one
i vote for the gremlin to be flip
At the risk of sounding pretentious, I feel like reducing these characters to cutesy TV fandom tropes is antithetical to the point of the show. Especially when many seem forced and inaccurate. ("Just straight up evil"? At least choose one of the strawman characters for that lol. "The only normal person" being TODD?? HERB having NO PLOT RELEVANCE???)
Pretentious? No, you're just observant and correct. Agree 💯.
Judah (or maybe Cinnabunny) is the normal one. Todd is absolutely not the normal one.
i don’t agree with any of these except maybe bojack lmao and perhaps goober
This is stupid
i would not call diane the fan favorite. people HATED her during the game hippopopolous arc and like forever after 😭
I hate Diane I can’t lie
It's really not accurate at all lol. Todd normal? Bojack made to be hated? Pretty sure Diane is not the fan favourite. I couldn't say who the fan favourite is tbh, maybe PC, Todd? Bojack's mother is not pure evil, she's just... well, the result of family trauma and unfortunate choices.
Great picks honestly. Personally I’d swap Diana and Todd, and swap Beatrice with the white whale but otherwise, those would be my exact choices
Todd and Diane should be switched
switch Diane and Todd
Charlie Witherspoon as fan favorite 🙏
I never liked Diane, too much romanticizing her own sadness. I’d say the fan favorite is Todd
BoJack is beloved.
Diane is NOT the fan favorite🤣
yeah...I disagree on most of these.
Ngl, Todd feels suited to be the Gremlin. He's just a mischievous guy :3
Todd is NOT normal 😅 and is Diane really anyone's favourite? 🤔 Well, she ain't mine.
Brilliant. Though I’d put the girl BoJ gave alcohol poisoning bottom left.
Joseph belongs in straight up evil, not Beatrice
They are both straight up evil 😞
nah you’re right
Replace Beatrice with Joseph Sugarman
based
I did not hate Bojack once in the entire show except for Penny's boat scene.
I think the character I hated the most was Paige Sinclair
Replace Beatrice with Cracker Jack and I'm in
What did Crackerjack do?
Kill nazis
Lmao I meant Joseph Sugarman
This is litterally so accurate
Inaccurate*
You don't have to agree it's an opinion not a fact jesus
Nah, Diane's too divisive to be the fan favourite