I told some people I know I am getting a puppy from an ethical breeder. A lot of people are excited. But a pit nutter said, "We should have doggy play dates." I shut that down quickly. They are not happy. They think I am a doggy racist for caring for my future puppy's safety! But I don't care my puppy comes before their dog's desire to rip another dog to shreds. Pit nutters think they are entitled to put other dogs and people in danger! Its so ridiculous. No dog parks either for my pup! (I've seen pit bulls there when I am at the park adjacent to it)! Any other tips to protect my dog will be great!
I hate pit nutters and their entitlement
Anatomy of a Pit Owner / Pit CultureAs others have said, it’s YOUR dog. Fuck them. Also, how can anyone be taken seriously if they unironically accuse someone of being a doggy racist 😂💀
Lol it's crazy how offended people are over me wanting me to keep my dog safe.
Hey, if being a "dog racist" is a thing and shitbulls are the victims, I'm happy to be one.
It’s only a thing pitnutters say which inadvertently makes them look actually racist
There are spiked vests you can buy for your dog that offer some protection from bites. I put one on my cat when I take her on-leash into the backyard.
can you please make my day and post a pic of your cat in a spiked vest . Maybe it can be the banner for this sub or sth
I'll take one. Stay tuned!
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It’s like when a pit attacks a porcupine, they get quilled over and over again but they still don’t stop until their face is completely buried under needles.
What is really insane is when pit nutters try to do a go fund me for the vet bills
And the pit simps love to say that their pit got attacked by a porcupine. SMH
I wonder if there's a harness or something like that... with the spikes on it. I wouldn't mind putting them on our does when we take them for a walk.
I couldn’t get a great photo. She’s not thrilled about wearing it, but if either of my cats wants to go on her backyard adventures, it’s a must.
My local park doesn’t allow pit bulls anymore after one killed another dog. Thank goodness for that.
This is what people don't get, the problem isnt "media bias" its all the shitty experiences that becoming more common that are pushing the narrative change.
my local country dog park system won't let a dog that has attacked other dogs.
Make sure to get a gun for walks
Assume that the average dog is not dog friendly. Even with puppies. I've had to kick a dog (husky aussie mix) in the face yesterday because she was being aggressive towards my puppy (she is dog selective and the owners let her off leash despite me yelling at them to wait a minute for us to leave. She is fine with my older dog, but she is a bit SSA, pushy, rude and apparently does not like puppies. She was growling, hackles up, charging repeatedly.....etc). Learn as much as you can about dog body language. Check out Kikopup and Susan Garrett for training advice. I'd suggest planned puppy playdates with dogs that LOVE puppies and will correct them appropriately. I'd go to a local puppy class that has bigger class sizes (look for dog training clubs that offer obedience, rally, agility....etc). Make friends with other puppy owners in your area. Find soccer fields/baseball diamonds and go during off hours for solid off leash play time. Tie the gate shut from the inside so people don't let themselves in (I always say my puppy isn't fully vaccinated. People tend to take that better than the truth that I don't let my puppy interact with random dogs).
All. Of. This.
Socializing a dog is not about letting them meet as many dogs as possible. In fact, doing this can have the opposite effect. It opens up a higher chance for bad interactions which can lead to puppies developing dog aggression.
Play dates for puppies should only be with dogs you know and trust, with people you know and trust. My current girl only played with the other dogs in my family, and two other puppies in our complex that were around the same age (one was a chocolate lab, the other was a border collie mix). Because all the interactions she had with dogs growing up were positive and healthy interactions, she is very dog friendly.
My friend got a puppy a few years back and went with "the more meet and greets, the better!" and while the puppy was never severely attacked, it was rattled a few times. She now struggles with a dog that is dog aggressive because the dog learned that its safer to just keep other dogs away than risk one of them coming at them again.
A puppys world should consist of safe, known, and controlled interactions. Defiantly look up Susan Garret for dog body language. She covers a lot of the more subtle and unknown body language people misinterpret in a dog and will help you be able to clock dangerous behavior or escalating behavior before it becomes a problem.
Because remember, even dog friendly dogs can become annoyed by puppies. You need to know when your pup is starting to behave rude or becoming too much for the other dog and put an end to play time until both dogs calm down. Not all adult dogs are great at proper corrective behavior and some will overcorrect which can lead to an issue.
Best of luck with the new pup, OP. Dogs are just wonderful.
Can't really blame them, pit mommies gotta do what they can to make sure Mr. Wigglebutt gets his snacks.
I cannot believe the prices they pay to get these dogs! Particularly shocking since they can actually get them for free from any rescue which is full of these types.
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If I tell someone that's gotta pit that i'm scared of them. I get the usual "Oh, my baby wouldn't hurt a fly" "Oh, come on, how can you be afraid of this face." ETC. Meanwhile, the dog is sizing me up, sizing my pugs and my boston terrier up. (Our boston.. AND our pugs hates pits) Nope..... just nope. We have tried our best to maintain a pit free environment at our house, and we aim to keep it that way.
Any other tips to protect my dog will be great!
Don't only avoid pits, avoid their owner too. Don't feel guilty if you cross the road when you see one.
But also, a general rule is to not trust anyone when you're with your dog. Don't let random people approach you without your consent. Even less if they have a dog and want to meet. Don't let dog meet when they're leashed, that's the worst thing to do.
If you go to a dog park, even if there are no pits, be very attentive to what happens. Not every owner train their dogs. Make sure that is safe before going in.
As for pits, if there are a lot where you live or even a few but known to be unleashed, carry a weapon, a pocket knife, anything that could help you defend yourself and your dog in case of need. But the best is to always avoid any confrontation. Don't risk it, don't push it. You see a pit, you cross the road, you go the other way, it doesn't matter. Just avoid them and their owners.
welcome to the club pal
This is the secret to dealing with all situations like this: you lie about your dog.
My dog is an angel, but I throw his ass under the bus all the time to get out of situations I don’t want him in. My dog is the problem, not theirs. It works perfectly once you get the formula down and commit to the emotional response if they push back.
The formula: [problem YOUR dog has that’s related to their dog but doesn‘t demonize or blame their dog] + [escalated stakes that serve to block their “my dog is fine with that”]
If they still push back, you put in your best sad/ashamed face and hit them with: “I’m really sorry but I’m just not comfortable with that right now given the severity of my dog’s issues. We’re working on it, but it’s been really hard“.
It works every. single. time. I use this for all kinds of situations, not just those related to other dogs. At least 10% of my friends, half my family, and God knows how many strangers think my dog is a hellbeast bend on world destruction. I couldn’t care less. It doesn’t matter. What matters is that my perfect angel dog is safe and happy.
Some examples:
In each of these, substitute the ____ with whatever lie works for the situation but is NOT pit bull-related. Some examples include large dogs, dog of a certain color, dogs that like to chase or wrestle, dogs that look like some non-pit bull breed that the person’s dog resembles, etc.
Your puppy is scared of ____, and you’re on a very strict training plan with a dog trainer and you can’t deviate from that.
Your puppy is hates _____, and you don’t want their or your dog to get hurt if yours attacks.
Your puppy plays too rough with ____ and once hurt itself badly, and the vet said you should only have the puppy play with [opposite of whatever you substitutes the blank with] until your puppy matures and settles down.
People who think that the deliberate, intentional breeding of dogs and other livestock humans did over tens of thousands of years to domesticate animals is in any way similar to the random, infinitely complicated multitude of factors that lead humans to breed and choose 'mates' are braindead. They're not the same.
By the way, calling it racist to point out that pitbulls are the way they are because of genetics is playing into the white-nationalist dog-whistle that somehow 'black people are like pitbulls', i.e, they're saying that 'certain races are more violent because of genetics', which is obviously bullshit, because humans and dogs are not the same. Humans were not deliberately and selectively bred for certain traits and are not ruled by instinct in the same way other animals are, but racists don't give a shit about that, so they continue perpetuating this myth. And pitbull advocates, who are too stupid to realize the logical inconsistency in those two claims are eating it up because they think it's an ironclad defense against pitbull haters. "We'll just call them dog racist and they'll back off!"
People who say that pointing out that pitbulls are genetically-predisposed towards violence and aggression (true) is racist will follow up by saying, 'well you wouldn't say that certain HUMAN groups are genetically more violent, bc that would be racist' -- Um, yeah! Because one group is humans, and one group is dogs. So what are you saying, exactly. You know that pitbulls are more violent, but we shouldn't hold it against them because it's a genetic thing? Or are you denying the genetic connection altogether and are telling us to ignore the evidence of our eyes and ears, because to acknowledge it would be racist.
Also, why are you accepting the premise of this white-nationalist meme garbage. This 'calling pitbulls violent is racist' meme is completely astro-turfed and people are eating it up. Don't fall for it. All dog breeds were human-engineered and human-created. Pitbulls are not a separate species of animal and have no specific right to continue existing -- they never existed in the wild in the first place. They're the mutated result of many many many generations of selective breeding, and quite frankly, they're an aberration on this planet.
It's their dog, not yours...
Yeah. So, like. Keep it away from mine.
I was referring to the terrible dog owners. Geeze. So like this. If they have a dog and impose on me then they think their dog is mine too. Which it is not. I don't want a dog. So it's their dog not yours.
Maybe worded poorly in your original post but I get your gist and agree.
I have issue with being succinct. 🤪
I think keeping your puppy away from pitbulls in general is the safest and most responsible decision. You would not invite a paroled serial killer into your home. Or a known violent offender who got off on a technicality. You probably wouldn't let a lion into your yard to play with your pets either. Nobody is entitled to YOUR dog period.